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#34417 - 01/23/10 05:17 AM Re: Switzerland is cruising for a terrorist attack [Re: liebowitz]
Baron dHolbach Offline
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 Originally Posted By: liebowitz
There are plenty of examples as to why a country should not let outsiders decide what language and culture is practiced.

One of the best known is the fall of the Western Roman Impire


First, I enjoyed your accidental typo, "Impire," which put me in mind immediately of a great title for what could well be a great fantasy novel about imps taking over the world! \:\)

But where Rome was concerned, one secret of their early success was precisely their willingness to let conquered peoples retain their original cultures, so long as tribute was paid and military assistance provided. As to why Rome eventually fell, hypotheses abound, but the one I favor is that they over-extended themselves in trying to administer a domain too large for existing communication and transportation technologies to cope with.

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Besides I would rather be under NAZI rule than under the islamic laws, at least I could have the things that are indulgences that are enjoyable, such as music, women, porn, non political books, and liquor.


While I have no desire to live under Nazi rule, I too would prefer that to Islamic rule, or any theocratic rule, Christian or otherwise. Nazi rule would provide a jungle I could survive and prosper in, I think, albeit in some ways an unpleasant one. The worst part would be the Fuhrer worship, which I would loathe, but would probably be able to grin and bear, since I would be pretty sure that any Fuhrer who proved a liability to the nation would eventually die at the hands of one of his lieutenants. Still, I am happiest right where I am, here in the United States as it currently stands.
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#34751 - 01/28/10 06:36 PM Re: Switzerland is cruising for a terrorist attack [Re: Baron dHolbach]
The Zebu Offline
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I understand their concern over Islam and radicalism spreading in their country, but banning minarets isn't going to do shit. Floods of Muslims will still pour into their country, and all their efforts will do is piss them off an alienate them from the western world even more.

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But where Rome was concerned, one secret of their early success was precisely their willingness to let conquered peoples retain their original cultures, so long as tribute was paid and military assistance provided.


I thoroughly agree. The minaret band is a step in the completely opposite direction- trying to stamp out culture while making them resent the ruling government and society at the same time. No good can come of it.

Although it should be noted that the idea of "National Identity" is tossed around too much, as if the culture that has been prevalent in a geographic area for the past century or so constitutes some kind of "sacred cow" that should be preserved at all costs. It's moronic.

If the spread of Islam does turn out to become a "genuine threat" to Western Civilization as people make it out to be, no amount of half-baked legal persecution can stop it. If the west is truly "at war with Islam", I would expect them to start building tanks and preparing concentration camps.

Otherwise they should just stop bitching.
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