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#3668 - 01/23/08 09:26 PM Satanic Scipture's
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I was just wondering if anyone had read any part of the book and think's it's a worthy read? Also are there any other satanic ritual book's that anyone know's of that are still in print that werent written by christians?
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#3672 - 01/23/08 11:27 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: AlleQ]
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I wasn't impressed. It's essentially a collection of "essays" and articles Gilmore composed for various internal CoS newsletters and magazines over the years. He's fairly eloquent but I found his writing to lack anything substantive. It's a cheap book and a fairly quick read.
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#3674 - 01/24/08 12:26 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: Octavius]
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It's not a bad book, but it's nothing special really. Magnus Peter Gilmore is a thoroughly nice guy but he's no author or philosopher really.
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#3677 - 01/24/08 02:29 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Agreed.

I thought the booked lacked any originality whatsoever. It was an easy read that is for sure but not because the book had any kind of flow to it.

What I noticed most of all was that at least with TSB the subjects were so basic and universal that one couldn't help but agree with it at least in part or find something in it that applied to their life in some way. With this book however I found myself in discord with his thoughts several times.

As far as my thoughts on HP Gilmore's writing style I think that can be summed up best by Stephen King who said

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Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule.
Stephen King, "Everything You Need to Know About Writing Successfully - in Ten Minutes", 1988
US horror novelist & screenwriter (1947 - )


What I did like about the book is that it was put together nicely the cover art and look of the book overall are very nice. So I guess in this case you'd have to judge the book by its cover because there is nothing of value inside. Unless, of course, you are a devout ass kisser in which case it's an example of literary genius born of a truly satanic mind. \:D

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#3678 - 01/24/08 04:20 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: AlleQ]
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 Originally Posted By: AlleQ
I was just wondering if anyone had read any part of the book and think's it's a worthy read? Also are there any other satanic ritual book's that anyone know's of that are still in print that werent written by christians?


Look here: http://www.luciferianwitchcraft.com

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#3688 - 01/24/08 11:08 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: Varick S.]
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I will have to vote with the crowd on this one. Peter is obviously a very articulate man - but in the book he is over-doing it.

The book itself is not worthless - but it is very obvious that Peter is trying to capture the essence that LaVey possessed. He wants to seem just as sinister and diabolical as the Black Pope. So there is a lot of unneeded material. There are a few articles worth a read - but it is not particularly a core book of Satanism. Much like the Devil's Notebook - it is simply more of the philosophy on different subjects and reveals nothing deeper than the Satanic Bible.

So - should you buy it? Yes - but wait until it is on sale! It is definitely a good addition to any Satanic library, but it isn't worth hunting for!

That's just my opinion though!
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#3691 - 01/24/08 11:39 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: Dragan Kasimir]
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Thank's to all, and thank's for the link I like the hoodies they have on there, so awesome. But yeah Im just going to wait on it, I figured that I might as well just look for some free literature for now and start picking up on different authors.

However Might Is Right Sounds Like A Great Title.
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#3768 - 02/02/08 11:19 AM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: AlleQ]
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It was a dumb book, but i bought it. unfortunately when ASL died no one has since put out any good Satanic books. I'm getting tired of reading my SB over and over again.
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#3859 - 02/05/08 01:41 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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If you are looking for some interesting Satanic literature perhaps some Ayn Rand, Nietsche, Jung, or Einstein would be to your liking. I think you'll find the ideas in these authors pretty well put out and well researched. Some of them just make you think. No they don't call themselves "Satanists" but really what is that but another pointless label! You may even find some of LaVey's "original" ideas floating around in their works.
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#3950 - 02/08/08 08:38 AM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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 Originally Posted By: LUCIFERIFIC
It was a dumb book, but i bought it. unfortunately when ASL died no one has since put out any good Satanic books. I'm getting tired of reading my SB over and over again.


http://www.lulu.com/content/1729083

Also, if you don't like what's out there, let's see you create something better instead of whining for something like a pissant consumer.

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#3980 - 02/08/08 11:02 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: SSunrise]
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 Originally Posted By: SSunrise
 Originally Posted By: LUCIFERIFIC
It was a dumb book, but i bought it. unfortunately when ASL died no one has since put out any good Satanic books. I'm getting tired of reading my SB over and over again.


http://www.lulu.com/content/1729083

Also, if you don't like what's out there, let's see you create something better instead of whining for something like a pissant consumer.

No, I wasn't whining like a pissant consumer... more like bitchin like a disappointed girl after sex... hey it happens. I do write my own stuff, but I keep my writings to myself.
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#3984 - 02/08/08 11:22 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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Well there is always room for one more book on anything especially Satanism. Peter H Gilmore has sold quiet a few of his new book since releasing it in December 2007.

You never know Luciferific you might be able to write a descent book from all of the things you have written in your own journal of the past years.

I have thought about it a couple of times but I don't ever have the amount of time to go through all of my journals and to fit it all together to make it a descent book.

It takes some time to get a rough draft put together and then even longer finalize it and bring it to publishing. Theres really not a lot of books out there on the subject like there is paganism,druidism,vampires, and other occult related topics.

I've thought about trying to find more suppliers out there for the left hand path to carry in my occult shop for a couple of years and there isn't but a handful that even produces anything related to sell for the left hand path.

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#3999 - 02/09/08 12:19 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: Noc]
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 Originally Posted By: Noc
Well there is always room for one more book on anything especially Satanism. Peter H Gilmore has sold quiet a few of his new book since releasing it in December 2007.

You never know Luciferific you might be able to write a descent book from all of the things you have written in your own journal of the past years.

I have thought about it a couple of times but I don't ever have the amount of time to go through all of my journals and to fit it all together to make it a descent book.

It takes some time to get a rough draft put together and then even longer finalize it and bring it to publishing. Theres really not a lot of books out there on the subject like there is paganism,druidism,vampires, and other occult related topics.

I've thought about trying to find more suppliers out there for the left hand path to carry in my occult shop for a couple of years and there isn't but a handful that even produces anything related to sell for the left hand path.

This is true Noc... but think a minute: "Cast not your pearls before swine..." JC - take a look at the market - this forum is a cross section of our potential satanic book market... its filled with people who don't have much respect for creative original thoughts, and make it their religion to vomit dead letters written by dead people - we are riding in a wagon which doesn't move. it lacks growth, progression, creativity, this Satanism of ours does not metabolize even... it is dead, it lacks life. this market better appreciates dead thought. its a waste of time to give give them something so valuable as your personal living and dynamic thoughts noc... they will just step on it like swine.
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#4000 - 02/09/08 02:07 PM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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You cast a stone at the forum for not respecting creative original thought, yet claim everything written after Anton LaVey's death to be garbage? Isn't that sort of contradictory? Does that not also make you guilty of "vomiting dead letters by dead people". Being as you admit to "reading your Satanic Bible over and over again" are you not creating to the stagnation of what you call "Satanism".

It is always easiest to read things which go along with our ideas. Perhaps the reason your wagon (and I say YOUR wagon) doesn't move is due to the fact you dismiss all you don't necessarily agree with. Perhaps you should gravitate away from what you believe for a while and have a look at some other stuff.

Try becoming Christian for a while. It's very therapeutic!
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#4027 - 02/10/08 02:20 AM Re: Satanic Scipture's [Re: AlleQ]
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I realize that I have said this before, but just for shits and giggles, I will throw it in again.

I tend to agree with those who claim, that Satanism lacks anything new and original. The reason for this might be, that previous generations have already stated all that there is to be said about it.

My cat is laying cuddled up to me, so I hate to say this, but it kind of fits. Although there is more then one way to skin a cat, there are ONLY so many ways one can do it.

There are only so many things that can be said about living free, and learning to think for ones self.
As times change, new methods might become necessary to achieve those things, but the core or the substance of those ideals do not change.

Perhaps very interesting books might be written about how a person achieved “Self Actualization” using Satanic principles, but I doubt that they can come up with original Satanic principles, which have already not been stated by someone else before them.

Someone might invent a new way of using the brain, and programming it, to assist themselves and others to achieve a “Satanic State” of being, but again, the ideals which they are aiming for, are already in place.

The difficult part, is not learning about Satanic ideals, but applying them to ones self if they wish to do so.

I don’t believe that we can learn how to be Satanists, by studying and searching out the writings of others, if we do not at some point apply them to our lives.
Once we apply them to our lives, we can start growing into being Satanic, instead of merely studying it, and life itself, will be our truest guide.

As we grow, and move forward, we might need, desire, or wish, to give ourselves a tune up by going back to the words of the old masters, or we might simply go back for some re-affirmation of our beliefs. However, the more that we mature into Satanhood, the less we will need them.
In time, as the Buddhists say, “If you see the Buddha walking down the street, kill him,” we too will be able to kill our own teachers.

This is not a literal killing of course, but metaphorical.
When we ourselves become masters, everyone else who claims to be one, will be seen as a fake in our eyes. Because true masters do not have masters themselves.
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