#37052 - 03/26/10 02:40 PM
Re: 'A Nightmare on Elm Street' - April 30
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CanisMajor
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I question the need for any of these pointless remakes of classic horror films (and even the Not-so-classics like Friday the 13th)
You didn't think Rosemarys' Baby was a bit...dry? I have never been much of a 'purist'. In my opinion,some movies could use a revision.
The Rob Zombie version of Halloween "fleshed out" well. Ditto with Dawn of the Dead. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre with Lee Ermy was pretty good.
While I absolutely adore the 80's "splatter" films,they were usually super-thin on plot (although,who really cared?).
Yeah,Friday the 13th was a giant stinker. Then again,it was hardly high-brow horror.
I don't have a beef with remaking a film as long as they have something to add,be it a clever prequel plot or new perspective.
That was my problem with the 1990 edition of Night of the Living Dead.Tom Savini at the helm should have amped-up the gore,instead he produced what was practically a shot-for-shot remake.
I hear Craven has Scream 4 in the works.
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#37067 - 03/26/10 08:49 PM
Re: 'A Nightmare on Elm Street' - April 30
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PeteOfTheDead
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There are a handful of good remakes- The Thing, Scarface, Texas Chainsaw Masacre. Some others perhaps...
I roll my eyes when I hear of another remake. When films are remade purely for money they don't interest me at all.
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#37076 - 03/27/10 12:11 AM
Re: 'A Nightmare on Elm Street' - April 30
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ta2zz
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I have little want or need to see a remake of NoE I honestly didn’t think the first ones were that good. I only watched them because I recognized Robert Englund from the 80’s mini series V (also in a remake, retelling, reboot). I have to wonder is Hellraiser next?
To give John Carpenter credit as a true master we must remember that the Thing is not really a remake or a retelling. Yet while being neither it is somehow both, as well as it also being an extension of the first movie. What other 80’s horror, what other modern horror can say it had an all male cast with no females at all.
I roll my eyes when I hear of another remake. When films are remade purely for money they don't interest me at all. This subject was being covered in another thread here: http://www.the600club.com/topic36415-1.html
It could also be argued that all films are only made for money.
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#37184 - 03/31/10 11:54 AM
Re: 'A Nightmare on Elm Street' - April 30
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CanisMajor
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I have little want or need to see a remake of NoE I honestly didn’t think the first ones were that good. I only watched them because I recognized Robert Englund from the 80’s mini series V (also in a remake, retelling, reboot). I have to wonder is Hellraiser next?
For me,NoE is one of those good old-fashion "slaughter the teenagers" flicks like Friday the 13th,Sleepaway Camp,Slumber Party Massacre,etc.
Not to mention,Mr. Englund is a profoundly creepy fellow.
I enjoy a good plot,but there are times that I just want to see some obnoxious little dipshits get picked off,one-by-one. 
To re-shoot Hellraiser would be blasphemy; although,I wouldn't mind seeing Frank being shredded by the Cenobites in 3-D......
Edited by CanisMajor (03/31/10 12:06 PM)
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#38695 - 05/20/10 12:52 PM
Re: 'A Nightmare on Elm Street' - April 30
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111Cal
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I question the need for any of these pointless remakes of classic horror films (and even the Not-so-classics like Friday the 13th) You didn't think Rosemarys' Baby was a bit...dry? I have never been much of a 'purist'. In my opinion,some movies could use a revision. The Rob Zombie version of Halloween "fleshed out" well. Ditto with Dawn of the Dead. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre with Lee Ermy was pretty good. While I absolutely adore the 80's "splatter" films,they were usually super-thin on plot (although,who really cared?). Yeah,Friday the 13th was a giant stinker. Then again,it was hardly high-brow horror. I don't have a beef with remaking a film as long as they have something to add,be it a clever prequel plot or new perspective. That was my problem with the 1990 edition of Night of the Living Dead.Tom Savini at the helm should have amped-up the gore,instead he produced what was practically a shot-for-shot remake. I hear Craven has Scream 4 in the works.
No, actually I dont think Rosemarys Baby is dry at all.... I think its classically calm..... Perfectly made. No Gore, just a well written thriller.
Update--- Saw the new NOE and of course, hated it... Robert Englund IS Freddy.... and the update was just lame...
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#39235 - 06/10/10 08:30 PM
Re: 'A Nightmare on Elm Street' - April 30
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The Zebu
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I saw the new movie as well, and I have to concede that it was a bad movie. It wasn't that amazing. Moreover, Englund is Freddy. No exceptions.
However, I do give it a few points for style. I like that they experimented with a darker atmosphere. The makeup is good-- he looks like an actual burn victim as opposed to a cartoony goblin. And plotwise, the newer, more sinister Freddy arguably fulfills the role of villain much better.
See, the old Freddy wasn't a very good villain. He was an amazing character, but you ended up rooting FOR him instead of his victims. You really wouldn't want Freddy to ultimately lose, because that would mean no more lethal gags and corny one-liners.
And under all this, you find that your favorite horror antihero is child molester.
The new movie, on the other hand, really hits home with that part. He's not the type of Freddy you'd put on children's lunchboxes or sell plushie dolls of around Halloween. The remake Freddy is a thoroughly vile character, and very much like an actual sexual predator. You really want him to die. He is genuinely creepy.
But yeah, the movie wasn't that entertaining. I'd still take Englund and his oddball puns ending with "BITCH!" over Rorschach feeling up on jailbait any day.
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