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#37072 - 03/26/10 11:11 PM The Jeweled Tablets of Set
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I have a question that, although directed at Dr. Aquino, I hope will generate a wide array of responses from my opinionated colleagues here. My question pertains to the Temple of Set’s Jeweled Tablets of Set. For those who don’t know, the Jeweled Tablets are a collection of documents given over time to Setians by the Temple leadership. I°’s get the Crystal Tablet. II°’s, in addition to the Crystal Tablet they already possess, get the Ruby Tablet. The higher one’s degree, the more tablets he or she receives.

My question is: Why not give all Setians, regardless of their degree, all the tablets? For that matter, why not make the Jeweled Tablets available to everyone, just as Aquino’s CoS and ToS eBooks are available to everyone? (I’m sure that some, if not all, of the tablets are available online if one knows where to look.) Aquino’s answer, from what I understand, is that one must be recognized as a certain degree before receiving a particular tablet because otherwise it would be irresponsible on the part of the leadership. That is to say, one must first demonstrate that he or she is “ready” to receive the knowledge contained in the tablets.

Skeptics might look at this a couple of ways. First, they may see it as condescending and hypocritical for an organization committed to the pursuit of knowledge and “truth” to withhold knowledge from others because of their degree status. They might argue that it sounds a bit like God’s insistence that Adam and Eve be “sheltered” from the knowledge of good and evil. Second, they may see it as a thinly veiled attempt to acquire members and encourage their rise up the ladder by rewarding them with a tablet for each new degree that is recognized.

Thoughts?
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#37073 - 03/26/10 11:39 PM Re: The Jeweled Tablets of Set [Re: William Wright]
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William,

Not that I am an expert on this by any means, but it is to my understanding that the foundational philosophy is all found within the Crystal Tablet (given to all First Degree's), and more specific focuses are expanded from that within the proceeding Jeweled Tablets. I think this may be to ensure people actually focus entirely on the base philosophy, that they may study it, ask questions/discuss it, choose to apply it and become proficient with the material in both understanding and application in their lives first. I can see the value in this, as it allows for both the organization and the individual to mutually evaluate if the philosophy of the Temple of Set will be beneficial or not for both parties, and avoid people jumping ahead of themselves. Studying more complex concepts that are rooted in the core philosophy held within the initial 'Tablet', before they even thoroughly assess the compatibility of said core philosophy and views of the organization, would make no sense to me and would appear to be jumping the gun.

Just my take on it, though. Not an official spokes-person by any means.

Sincerely,
JWG
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#37079 - 03/27/10 02:12 AM Re: The Jeweled Tablets of Set [Re: William Wright]
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When we [re]created the Temple of Set in 1975, we thought that it should have both temporary/periodical and permanent/reference publications. The Scroll of Set newsletter took care of the former, and has amassed a vast amount of articles, essays, art, news, Order/Pylon/Element reports, conclave pre/post-discussions, etc. since then. In this Internet age all of the back-issues are downloadable by all Setians.

The Jeweled Tablets got their name-inspiration whimsically, as a take-off on the fabled, forbidden, and funky Emerald Tablet of Thoth, in which all great occult knowledge was supposedly contained. So we decided to do a real set, as it were, but designed to complement our initiatory degree system.

The Crystal Tablet (gem color of the I°) would be provided to all Setians, and issued to entering Setians I°. It would serve as an introduction to and summary of Setian philosophy and metaphysics, explain the various administrative systems and functional groups comprising the Temple, and discuss opportunities for each Setian to undertake personal initiation. As it is the Temple's "common reference document", its contents are relevant to all Setians, not just the I°. And, like all of the JT's, it is constantly updated. We used to send it out as a looseleaf binder; nowadays it's a CD, and all of its contents are also in the Temple's Intranet.

The Ruby Tablet (gem color of the II°) would be available to Adepts II°+, and would be a repository of the Temple’s more extensive and permanent documents than would normally be found in the Scroll of Set newsletter. Since most of the Temple of Set’s information is intentionally for the benefit of all Adepts, the RT would be the largest, and “backbone”, volume of the JTs. And so it has been. By the mid-1980s it was already about 6 large red binders in size, and was rapidly becoming cost-daunting even at nonprofit. Happily it too has been rescued by the Internet, and is now wholly searchable & downloadable there.

Its contents are of equal significance to all the II°+ and are contributed to by all of them as well.

The reason the RT is not available to the I° is twofold: (1) The I° is a "mutual evaluation" degree, wherein both the individual and the Temple have an extended [up to 2-year] opportunity to decide if they are suited for one another. Some join the Temple for the wrong reasons, or decide after contact with it that it is not after all their cup of tea. And from the Temple's perspective, some I°s simply don't have the aptitude, intelligence, or interest to become Black Magicians, which is what II° Recognition is all about. So during their I° time, Setians are expected to familiarize themselves with the Temple, its ideas, its tools, and flex their mental & magical muscles accordingly. Think of it somewhat as the "general education requirements" of a university, with entry-level/familiarization courses offered by the various departments. (2) The material in the RT is specifically written for Setians who have "passed the I° test" and shown themselves to be competent enough to handle it. Essentially we trust Recognized Adepts II° to use this information wisely and responsibly. We do not trust the Great Unwashed [public] to do so, and entering I°s need to get their "sea legs" first.

The Onyx Tablet (gem color of the III°) is available to the Priesthood of Set III°+ and contains documents specifically pertinent to the Priesthood as a personal initiatory and consecrating experience. [General material about the III° is contained in either the CT or RT as appropriate.] Thus the OT is written by III° Initiates for other III°s. Articles have to do with the essence of the III° and how it may be Recognized in Adepts. There are two general reasons for its III°+ restriction: (1) The authentic III° is a uniquely individual initiation if & when it occurs. If non-III°s read existing III°+ reflections on the Priesthood, they may be tempted to artificially imitate others' initiation. The Priesthood of Set is not and cannot be a "standardized office". (2) The Priesthood of Set is the consecrated core of the Temple of Set, and as such desires to preserve its privacy and serenity.

The Sapphire, Amethyst, & Topaz Tablets are all accessible to the Masters of the Temple of Set IV°+. Their distinction is simply that each contains material and commentaries specifically pertinent to the IV°, V°, and VI° respectively; and again this is only material that, for sound reason (such as the initiatory capability to understand it in proper context, and again deterrence of "initiatory imitation") should not be in the CT/RT (wherein again the vast majority of documents pertinent to the IV°+ are contained).

Incidentally the IV°+ access to the IV°/V°/VI° volumes reflects the principle that the IV° is the Æonic level of individual initiation. The V° and VI° are "specialized variations" of the IV°, and are thus fully comprehensible by it. Nor are we concerned about V° or VI° imitation, because the very nature of such Recognitions is antithetical to this.

So if you were to put all the JTs side-by-side, you'd find the RT to be huge, the CT to be a sort of "Boy Scout Handbook", and the other four to be very slim indeed. The main "push" in our magical & philosophical material is always to the RT, because there it is available to all adept Setians II°-VI°.

I should also point this out about Setian initiation: One's Recognition to a specific degree of initiation denotes the capacity, not the continuity of being present in and manifesting what is signified by that Recognition. Most adept Setians, myself included, function 95% of the time as Adepts II°. Only in certain instances where the unique characteristics of another degree are called for does it arise in consciousness.

That's about it. \:\)

Oh, and yes, of course there are pirated JTs all over the Internet. [There is pirated everything all over the Internet!] Can't help that. Because all of the JTs are being updated all the time, though, the stuff online is usually obsolete to varying measure; and as you can see here, the OT, ST, AT, & TT are relatively obscure without synchronization to individual initiation at related levels.
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#37160 - 03/30/10 11:33 PM Re: The Jeweled Tablets of Set [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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I have another question. This might not be the right thread for it but here it goes anyway. I think you have explained why certain tablets are given to certain degrees well enough but what I'm curious about is if there is a fee for moving up the degrees. For example, If someone was an Adept 2nd degree and proved they were worthy and wanted to move up to a priest 3rd degree would there be a monetary fee? I looked over Xeper.org and saw there was an initial $80 fee(perfectly reasonable) to become a first degree but I didn't see any other fee info (although I could have overlooked it). If there are additional fee's the higher you climb what are they? Sorry if I sound disrespectful, I don't mean to be. I'm just pretty skeptical by nature.
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#37195 - 03/31/10 04:50 PM Degrees for Sale? [Re: BloodRaven]
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 Originally Posted By: BloodRaven
if there is a fee for moving up the degrees.

None whatever. Indeed it was Anton LaVey's decision to start selling all degrees in the Church of Satan in mid-1975 that precipitated the end of that institution except as his personal fan club and money-making vehicle. [This is also recounted and documented in the final chapters of my Church of Satan ebook, so I will not further respond to it here.]
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#37200 - 03/31/10 11:11 PM Re: Degrees for Sale? [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Am I the only one that finds the fact aquino managed to turn a simple question about degrees in the ToS into a chance to both whine about 1975 and whore his E-Book pathetically hilarious?

He can wedge that shit in anywhere!
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#37201 - 03/31/10 11:48 PM Re: Initiation [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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OK, this might sound harsh (probably not too much when compared to Dan’s observation), but here goes: The whole initiation process of the Temple strikes me as kinda goofy. I’m sure the standard response is “you don’t get it”…OK, fine. Tell me what I’m missing.

I understand getting recognized for things like “I got a better job”, “I bought a house”, “I found my soulmate (lol)”, etc. Those are real accomplishments that any reasonable person would acknowledge as such. But the Temple doesn’t base its recognitions on such common-sense criteria, presumably because it isn’t mysterious enough.

Here’s my initiatory test: Are you taking charge of your life? If you can honestly answer yes and back it up with real-world accomplishments then congratulations, you’ve just been recognized as an Adept Black Magician. Now use the $80 you saved to take your significant other out for a night on the town.
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#37202 - 04/01/10 12:36 AM Re: Degrees for Sale? [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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I know this is a little bit off track, but I have just discovered Appendix 14 of the TOS e book. This is The Temples reading list, which runs for something like 125 pages!

Then there is the bibliography of The Compleat Witch, which apparently was a listing of many of the books on the shelves at 6114.

The combination of the two reading lists is just gold for someone like me who really wants to learn an extra thing or two and work hard and become a more knowledgeable magician.

There are a lot of great books here and they have to be read.

I will state this in Aussie - speak: its bloody tremendous stuff!

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#37204 - 04/01/10 01:00 AM Namárië [Re: William Wright]
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Well, we shall hope that Dan and William both discover what will finally comfort and content them.

And now the time has come for me to depart the 600 Club. I think I have fulfilled what philosophical, magical, and historical purpose I could contribute here. I thank you for your welcome and hospitality. I leave you all with good wishes, and with this parting thought: that anyone who takes the name of the Prince of Darkness will indeed find him. But it may take a little while. Enjoy your adventure!
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#37216 - 04/01/10 09:39 AM Re: Namárië [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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Thank you for all your input, Dr Aquino. I shall be contacting you privately, if that is acceptable to you, with regard to your writings. \:\)
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#37245 - 04/01/10 09:37 PM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Dr. Aquino, although I've disagreed with you – sometimes quite strongly - on a number of issues, I have a lot of respect for you and I’m kind of bummed that you’re going. You gave me a lot to think about, and I appreciate that. I wish you well.
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#37248 - 04/01/10 11:23 PM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: William Wright]
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Goodbye Dr. Aquino. I may be new here, but you seemed to be an intelligent person and added a lot to the community and I'm sorry to see you leave.
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#37250 - 04/02/10 12:48 AM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: Shadow Dragon]
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I and numerous others have benefited from having someone of your intelligence and wisdom to learn from. Do What Thou Wilt!
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#37252 - 04/02/10 01:32 AM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: Doomsage680]
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Goodbye, Dr. Aquino. Your contributions were greatly appreciated. Best of luck wherever you go!
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#37253 - 04/02/10 01:44 AM Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Farewell Dr. Aquino. I fear this place shall be weaker for your loss. You have contributed a great deal here, and proven to be a man of sound judgement and formidable patience.

Thank you

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#37256 - 04/02/10 02:23 AM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: Clarence]
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Just on a side-note:

While he may have given some valuable input about certain points concerning LaVey and the CoS pre-1975, I don't see any problems with him leaving, let alone being "shocked". As far as I am concerned he is just another person who left and couldn't take the heat from certain persons. He made a goodbye comment as some "lurkers" did who simply let me shrug my shoulders.

Perhaps this was a good place for him to become a little nostalgic, yet this board has always been Atheistic oriented and not theistic. A good place to share information and discuss about the history for Satanism for him, bad place for his views concerning Set. (Altough I'm now more inclined to believe he did not actually belief in an anthromorphic deity when reading his discussions on this particular issue and it shouldn't care in the end.)
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#37263 - 04/02/10 07:27 AM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: Dimitri]
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Indeed, Dimitri, I echo your sentiments.

I'd also like to add that just because a member makes a public statement about leaving this site, does not mean they will never come back at a later date. Mr. Aquino joined knowing full well he was going against the grain, yet managed to stick it out for much longer than I expected anyone to, given the amount of insults and taunts that were thrown at him. But I'm sure he expected no small amount of it, and I don't believe that was the sole reason for his departure. Rather, I think interest in Set and the TOS was on the wane, so he took the opportunity to bow out.

His account is still active, and if he would like to come back he would be welcome to. I doubt anyone's opinions about his interpretations of Satanism would change, but he still has valuable input to offer.
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#37280 - 04/02/10 03:23 PM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: Nemesis]
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Dammit!

I had just finished reading his ToS book yesterday and have many questions. Hopefully he isn't loathe to answer a few e-mails.

Hate to see ya go, Doc. \:\(
Your perspective has always been...refreshing.
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#37287 - 04/02/10 05:14 PM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: CanisMajor]
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Honestly, if anything the information he posted helps people like me who agree with TSB but who are not atheists understand themselves a little more. My conceptions of the powers that be have nothing to do with the Judeo-Christian mythos, but are nonetheless are very real based on my own experiences. A proper Modern Satanist may say, "You're not a Satanist if you're not Atheist!" That's ok, really! Anyone that thinks as such is entitled to that view as far as I am concerned, but I do feel some apprehension in calling it a religion in and of itself due to fact that Atheism is actually the lack of any belief in the supernatural.

I would have described myself the same way as most of the individuals here, and as a matter of fact did for about fifteen years of my Satanic journey. It certainly would waste any readers time here to explain why when they really don't need me to tell them they just need to find these answers themselves. You can't objectively prove a subjective experience without the point of a sword so I'll spare everyone the drama.

I feel a deep bond with the writings of both LaVey and Aquino and if anything Dr. Aquino's writings have done much to grow the seeds of LaVey's wisdom in my mind. I feel that he is much more of an admirer of LaVey than a detractor, even knowing of much of the debauchery within the CoS he has done his best to keep it factual and take the good with the bad. I can respect that greatly in any case, and I do feel that we have lost a valued resource.

Am I a Satanist? Yes, and no. My beliefs encompass the entirety of Modern Satanism, but expand it in several different directions and thanks to Dr. Aquino I know that I am not the only one treading this dangerous path. So a sincere thank you is certainly in order!

Thanks for your time Dr. Aquino!

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#37318 - 04/02/10 10:36 PM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: Mindmaster]
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Dammit! As fire drives out fire, so pity, pity. On this ship of fools where lesser minds have an extraordinary talent of talking much, and saying nothing, the only intelligent form of life has jumped overboard.

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#37331 - 04/03/10 06:10 AM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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Yes, I think you're getting confused between "backhanded compliment" and direct insult..... "backhanded insult" doesn't really make much sense, does it.

If you're going to criticize my posts, at least try to make it reasonably accurate.

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#37334 - 04/03/10 09:01 AM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: School Bully]
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School Bully, if “the only intelligent form of life has jumped overboard”, as you put it, then why are you still here? Engaging in conversations with fools would be foolish on your part. Then again, saying Aquino was the only intelligent form of life here would suggest that you think you are a fool as well. Unless you meant to say “the only intelligent form of life besides myself”, which would’ve been foolish for you to leave out.

If you’re going to put people down, at least think it through before you speak.
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#37344 - 04/03/10 05:09 PM Re: Goodbye, Michael Aquino [Re: William Wright]
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Oh no aquino is leaving? Who will take up the mantle of 'set'ting all us poor misguided atheists pretending to be Satanists straight? A profound loss indeed.

Now if all of the mush minded theists that followed him here follow him out, perhaps this place will return to normal \:\)

Good riddance.
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#37345 - 04/03/10 05:56 PM Poof! [Re: William Wright]
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Upon reflection I would like to drop back into the 600 Club one more time to express my appreciation for the general quality of the intellectual acumen and discussion that I have seen here. This intentionally includes the depth and substance of many posts at odds with or directly disagreeing with my own.

We all improve our perspective by being exposed to and seriously considering others. Sometimes it is all the more important to seek out comments and criticism that are distinctly outside one’s “comfort zone” of same. Some 600C members have asserted that most, if not everyone here shares certain presumptions (such as Satanism as Atheism). This has the tacit effect of removing those presumptions from the microscope, which simplifies lesser discussions but also risks the greater ones being taken for granted.

Other themed-environments experience the same “tunnel vision”, and the Temple of Set is no exception. Conversing on matters of importance to us, primarily among ourselves, we tend to see, accept, and reinforce ideas and interpretations pleasing and reassuring to us.

And out there in the World of Horrors of the Great Unwashed, it is the same. In my professional field of PSYOP it is axiomatic that people hear what they want to hear. If you don’t tell it to them, they will find someone else who will. Thus the “secret” of PSYOP is not to appear to be trying to change anyone’s mind; it is to imperceptibly influence them to reinterpret what they already believe.

So even at its “harshest” the 600 Club has been extremely valuable and educational to me, particularly while I am at work on my Temple of Set ebook memoir. It has forced me that much more, and in some very essential contexts, to “think outside the Pentagram”.

One of Plato’s most interesting assertions, I have always thought, is that “no one intentionally does evil”. By this he meant simply that in each individual’s eyes his actions are justified. This consequently and necessarily defines “evil” as something “beyond the self”. It is what others think, or how nature reacts (e.g. to ecosystem destruction, etc.). Thus for each of us the assertion of our preferred viewpoint has a dimension beyond mere reassurance; it also rises to the level of a virtue, a personally-enshrined truth. Hence its contradiction by others does not provoke merely intellectual disagreement, but a kind of emotional outrage at such heresy. We are challenged not simply to out-argue the challenger; we must cleanse him, wash his mind clean; only then will we be completely safe. “I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ,” said Oliver Cromwell to the Scottish Presbyterians, “think it possible you may be mistaken.” [Well, I’ve always thought that Christianity has its head up its ass.]

Accordingly when contesting posts here have been accented with a dash of emotion (anger, contempt, sarcasm), that should be expected and understood in this flavor. In one of my oft-quoted favorites, John Fowles’ The Magus, Conchis’ mentor de Deukans leaves him as part of his bequest this fragment: “Utram bibis? Aquam an undam? [Which are you drinking? The water or the wave?]” A reminder, I think, that we are wise to drink the water and focus on the actual idea at issue.

As a closing postscript, during the on/off discussions of belief in Satan as a necessity for Satanists, what do you think would be Satan’s reaction if, upon meeting him, you said, “I believe in you.”? I suspect his answer would be “Why? And why do you feel you need to? What I believed in, what wrenched me free from God, was no more and no less than myself as a distinct, isolate entity. If you wish to take my name as your inspiration and example in a similar self-affirmation, well and good. But belief plays no part in this; that would indeed be the mere masking of the clear sight you have just proclaimed.”

And now, although eleventy-one years is far too short a time to spend among such excellent and admirable hobbits, this is the end. I am going. I am leaving now. Good-bye!
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#37346 - 04/03/10 07:41 PM Re: Poof! [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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I rarely get the opportunity to drop in here, but when I do...your posts and responses were among the many that gave me a great deal to either look further into, or reflect upon. As many have stated here, your contributions will be missed and it was a pleasure to interact with you Michael (Mr. Aquino), even if only for a short time...

Thank you again and best wishes in all your current and future endeavors.
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#37371 - 04/04/10 11:24 PM Re: Poof! [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Dr. Aquino, quickly as you ride off into the sunset:

Although I maintain my position regarding initiation within the Temple, I wish I hadn’t made my point in such a mean-spirited way. I apologize for that.

The part in your last post when you suspected what Satan might say upon us meeting him was fucking brilliant. It simply and directly transcended the tired Theist/Atheist pissing contests that have marred many otherwise constructive discussions here. Thank you for sharing it.

Adios, mi amigo.
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#37398 - 04/05/10 06:42 PM Re: Poof! [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
MatthewJ1
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To Dr Aquino,

At first I was thinking that your departure was just an April fools gag and you would front up in a day or two and say: Got ya!

Sir, are you prepared to return by popular demand? As you can see you have a number of fans and well wishers here.

Also, you have the small issue of the post count to contend with. You had first announced your departure at post number 400, which was quite a neat way to end things here. The problem now is that you have added an additional post to take the count up to 401, which is not such a neat ending. Would you be prepared to take the post count up to 450 or 500 in order to have that neat ending and then you can finish up?

If you do make a come back than you will have to put up with people attacking your position as per usual, but I feel that you love it here Dr. A, just as many of us do and I suspect that you will lurk here at the 600C and read and be sorely tempted to add a post or two. Time will tell.

Quality discussion and debate can only take place with a quality opposition and opponents who will hold that mirror up.

Anyway if you don’t make a come back than my best to you. I have a lot of studies to get into based on your reading list and LaVey’s as well.

I have a very high regard for you and Dr. LaVey’s expertise and experience, as I have said before in another thread. I, however, have taken note of the conversation with Satan and his response in your last post.

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#37410 - 04/06/10 03:32 AM Re: Poof! [Re: ]
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Sir, are you prepared to return by popular demand? As you can see you have a number of fans and well wishers here.


I would think the man is more intelligent then to give in to popular demand. He comes and goes as he sees fit. Fuck popular demand, and any other kind of demand.
Just because people wish him well doesn’t make them “fans.” Some of us see him as a man who deserves a certain amount of respect even if we don’t agree with him, but that certainly doesn’t mean that we are “fans.”

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Also, you have the small issue of the post count to contend with. You had first announced your departure at post number 400, which was quite a neat way to end things here.


Numbers? really? You think he gives a shit about the number of posts he made? You say you respect the man, yet think so little of him that you would actually think he gives a flying fuck about the neatness of the number of posts?

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Quality discussion and debate can only take place with a quality opposition and opponents who will hold that mirror up.


One might think that someone who used to be in Psyops or what ever it's called would know this, but thanks for the third grade lesson in the art of debate.
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#37411 - 04/06/10 03:41 AM Re: Poof! [Re: Asmedious]
MatthewJ1
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I couldn't care less what you think to be honest. Mind your own business.

Portions of this post were meant to be light hearted and a bit of fun.

Obviously Dr. Aquino is going to know everything I have stated here.

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#37433 - 04/06/10 07:46 PM Re: Poof! [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
MatthewJ1
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To Maw,

You are correct. It is time to move along as I don’t think there is anything further for me to see here in this thread.

To Asmedious,

My apologies for the lack of courtesy and for the lack of quality in my prior posts.

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#37441 - 04/07/10 06:27 PM Re: Poof! [Re: ]
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I'd like to say that it's alright, no worries, no hard feelings and all that, but it's hard to do it without a one line response, which we all know is frowned upon here.
Oh ok, I think I'm safe now.

Cheers.
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