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#3738 - 02/01/08 12:42 AM How To Convert An Atheist
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What would be a good criterion of proof for believing in a religion?

A good challenge for all theists... not to mention an exercise in epistemology (the study of knowledge).






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#3742 - 02/01/08 11:57 AM Re: How To Convert An Atheist [Re: Meq]
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What would be a good criterion of proof for believing in a religion?


A quick rule of thumb would be "could this have all just been made up by someone at some point?" - if so, it probably has.

As a example of more definitive proof for religion, a deep space pulsar broadcasting the Lord's Prayer in Morse code would likely swing the convictions of many atheists.

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#3745 - 02/01/08 02:04 PM Re: How To Convert An Atheist [Re: Meq]
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The funniest one was just a couple of links over here it is.





If only my mom had been so loving I might have turned out alright.

so there's your proof,
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#3746 - 02/01/08 02:19 PM Re: How To Convert An Atheist [Re: delusion]
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Argument from Pissed Catholic Mother:

1. Christmas is about Jesus
2. If you don't believe in Jesus you wont get any presents
3. Therefore God exists

Also, the louder the say it, the more true it is.

Hard to argue with that one.

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#3747 - 02/01/08 02:28 PM Re: How To Convert An Atheist [Re: delusion]
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Here's a reply to this video:



It notes how the prospect (for a believer) of seeing a loved one spending ETERNITY in UNBELIEVABLE TORMENT, through not believing (not having the right 'catchphrase' to get in) is deeply unsettling for their faith.

The hope of eternal bliss in Heaven is shattered by this thought. The concept of Hell destroys the concept of Heaven, for it can't be much fun up there with your son down below.


Of course, pious and devout Christians could always claim that good ol' Jesus will comfortingly harden their hearts while in Heaven, allowing them to spend an eternity of bliss without giving a fuck about their loved ones' eternal torment.

Amen! ;\)

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#3749 - 02/01/08 06:33 PM Re: How To Convert An Atheist [Re: Meq]
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I would love to see a theistic response to the video as suggested by the author. Although in my opinion, he was being a bit irrational in his list. I for one would be persuaded by something as simple as a convincing religious argument, instead of some conveniently placed "facts" and flippantly misplaced faith.
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