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#3789 - 02/02/08 08:22 PM how do satanist feel about meditation?
drow666 Offline
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have been checking out Satanism I am new to it. I was just wanting to know how some satanist feel about meditation, and physical fitness.
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#3839 - 02/04/08 03:18 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: drow666]
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Greetings Drow666

I am a firm believer in doing meditation at least once a day because it clears your mind of the stress created from the mundane world around us.

Meditation is a good tool and it powers the mind in return will focus more intent into spells. The mind is full of power and is constantly working even when sleeping. So by calming the mind and removing from it unwanted thoughts and negativity, will increase your mental power during ritual.

Physical fitness was a major part of my life until I injured my back and I would love to continue to do it but after a couple of surgeries my body can't take it anymore. But I would workout 3-4 times a week if I was able to.

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#3869 - 02/05/08 04:50 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: drow666]
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Funny you should ask...I just today recommitted myself to Transcendental Meditation. I haven't done it in years, but it is a very powerful discipline. I was inspired to return to it while reading David Lynch's Catching the Big Fish, a book he wrote on the benefits of TM relating to creativity.
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#3880 - 02/05/08 09:03 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Soluna666]
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"Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the spiritual guru whose pupils included the Beatles and Clint Eastwood, has died. The founder of transcendental meditation, a mind control technique using chanting, died at about 6pm GMT at his home in the Dutch town of Vlodrop. He was thought to be 91, although his exact birth date is unclear."

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Just reading through and saw that this just fit with the last post...

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On topic...

Much can be gained through meditation and visualization... Some would say that using both might do away with the need for rituals...

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#4049 - 02/10/08 05:08 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: ta2zz]
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Meditation should be a important part of your day. It really clears your mind. If you do it enough, you can help to cure yourself of whatever is bothering you. When i first started meditation, i used the old voodoo skeleton dance. Concentrate on the bones in your toes and then move up your feet, legs, and so on. every breath you take relax more and more. If anyone is interested i will be glad to shair how i do it. Their is a little more to it than i put here so far. Its WELL worth your while to try. I have done some really wild stuff. Meditation is the key to a lot of different things. A VERY good tool. A must learn.

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#4058 - 02/10/08 07:26 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: ta2zz]
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Whoa! The Maharishi passes the day after I decide to take up the practice for the first time since I was 14? Very strange.
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#4063 - 02/10/08 10:13 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Soluna666]
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I am currently training in Ki-Aikido and I find meditation, calm reflextion and concentrating on my one point to be extremely useful and helpful. It gives me more focus and strength of mind. Saying that I think the concept of Ki is mearly an outdated way or explaining how we are able to cause our bodies to gain great strength when in a state of hyper-spasm relaxation. You need to be so relaxed that the body uses micro-spasms to generate heat and sensation. It does however work reguardless, I'm just summising on the biology.

Either way, I find meditation to be extremely fulfilling.
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#4068 - 02/11/08 01:18 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: drow666]
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From my stand point, Physical Fitness (or PT - Physical Training) is necessary. Mostly because my occupation requires top-notch fitness levels, so physical fitness to me is something extremely valuable and important if one wishes to advance through physical doings.

As for meditation and Satanism - I can't and won't comment on that as I'm not a Satanist; so anything I did say might reflect badly upon those who are, and if I potentially represented the wrong answer on a 'Satanic Behalf' it might stir up some unwanted and unnecessary conflicts.
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#4070 - 02/11/08 01:49 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: DaVinci]
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Honestly DaVinci, being Satanist is not exceptionally different from any philosophy of life. Most standard everyday atheists will agree with most things Satanists feel, Satanists are just more upfront about it generally.

Don't worry about causing conflict though, it's unlikely to happen. The people here are the type to debate and discuss, they don't argue and bait though. In my experience at least.
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#4084 - 02/11/08 10:41 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Tornado how long have you been studying Aikido? I studied Martial Arts for over 15 years and obtained my 4th Degree Black Belt.

Meditation helped me to focus on my inner strengths and to over look pain, because we did full contact with no pads after 2ND Degree to toughing our minds, bodies and our spirits....

I got started with meditation from studying Tae-Kwon Do, when I was 7 years old. Meditation has really helped me over the years not only with Martial Arts but the Magickal Arts as well.

I try meditate everyday and its help me a lot with the pain I've went through from my back injury and nerve pains in my leg....
I've found meditation to be more comforting to help heal myself then by taking any kind of pain medications.

Anyone who sits and does meditation over a period of time will notice a huge difference within themselves, It will help you focus on what things are really important to you in your life....

Some will disagree about the effects one will get from meditation, but who cares because as long as its working for me thats all that really matters. I follow whatever works for me physically and spiritually and meditation allows me to just that.

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#4579 - 02/27/08 12:58 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Noc]
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I also like to meditate. This is a unique feeling and makes fun. Then, I feel very much better. I'm at the beginning.

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#4587 - 02/27/08 02:29 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Nymus]
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I have meditated somewhat in the past, and it did calm me down immensely when I was under stress. I haven't done it for quite some time, and I really think i ought to get back into the whole routine.
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#4591 - 02/27/08 07:56 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: DistroyA]
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I have only been doing Aikido for 4 months and I'm not good enough to use it as a form of self defense against anyone with any form of training but I find it helps me in other ways. I am fitter both physically and mentally and a lot of it is due to meditation. Learning to relax completely is actually a lot harder than people realise, you have to practice it and it eventually helps you in many ways... or at least I've found this to be the case.

I'm hoping to take Aikido a lot further. I'm 22 now, but I don't think it's too late to learn. Another martial art I am very intersted in and did a few sessions of at the local gym was Muoy Tai which I may look into again at a later date.
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#4597 - 02/27/08 09:21 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: TornadoCreator]
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I have to say, the best thing that can come out of martial arts is the discipline you learn. Years back (When I was in secondary school..), I was training in Tae Kwon Do. The problem was after I got attacked at school (Sadly, I wasn't fully prepared to use the skills I had learned, due to being very timid in the past), and I got picked on by the tutor in the end. Then I quit. I'm kinda regretting it now, as I could have gotten much further if I'd just stuck it out.

I'm thinking of taking it back up. But I most certainly don't want to study under the same tutor. I'm gonna have to look around for alternative places to go.
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#4605 - 02/28/08 02:03 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: DistroyA]
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I believe meditation can be very useful for concentration and sanity.
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#4611 - 02/28/08 08:38 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Engel08]
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I think that physical fitness is an important thing not just for the satanist, we are carnal creatures afterall and survival of the fittests has and always will be there. I think its quite important for the satanist to have control without reliance on other people and physical strength can ensure this to an extent.

As for meditation a clear mind is a more consicous mind, we are but forver interpretting and studying the world around us and if meditation helps people understand then its a good thing, i personally find it difficult to meditate, too many thoughts in my head to silence lol
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#4648 - 02/29/08 05:27 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: silligum_diaboli]
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I used to find it hard to silence my thoughts as well. I silence them by half, then half again, then half again..... eventually you reach a point where you can let go of your thoughts and there is nothing there.

Meditation is effectively dead really. No movement, no brain activity, nothing. It's strange really that it has such positive effects on life.
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#4669 - 03/01/08 02:17 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: TornadoCreator]
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I learned detaching from various thoughts and allowing them to flow away. Ananda teaches Haung Sau. And of course there is the spiritually neutral Zazen.
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#4670 - 03/01/08 02:20 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: silligum_diaboli]
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physical fitness as in yoga? Or just plain exercise? Indeed exercise is definitely good for body and mind.
Controlling and detaching from ones thoughts is rather difficult. And in meditation you must also detach from the action or mental willing of clearing the mind. Basically sweeping a basement full of monkeys then tossing the broom.
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#4673 - 03/01/08 03:31 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Engel08]
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The concept "clear my mind" is the hardest thing to have leave your mind during meditation but it truly is "zen" as many people would call it when you do. The peace, it's hard to describe, to link it to an emotion seems wrong but I wanted to say soothing and comforting. I wonder if others get similar feelings from it.
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#85677 - 03/12/14 12:28 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: drow666]
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When it’s time to “discover” or “reinvent” my inner self again in a perfectly relaxed manner, I retire to the john for my daily session of Hatha Toilet Seat Meditation. Completely emancipated I deliver myself from crept in stupidity and joyless naggings of jackass lunacy. Remember, there’s always a way out.
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#85683 - 03/12/14 04:46 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: drow666]
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Satanists views on such topics almost always vary depending on the person you ask.

Personally: I think physical fitness is good, it can improve the length (and sometimes the quality) of a persons life, thereby increasing the amount of happiness and pleasure you can fit into it. Of course, devoting your whole life to living a long time is pointless if it means you can't ever eat good foods and do other things you like to do, especially because living a long time is only a good thing until you start getting REALLY old and dis functional.

Meditation? Meditation is great if you enjoy it.....so I hear. Personally though, I find it VERY difficult to meditate, so I eventually gave up and stopped trying. I also didn't think it would be enjoyable anyway.
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#85832 - 03/20/14 01:20 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Engel08]
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I meditate nearly daily. I do so to focus my mind on the days tasks. It is also a method for me to fully grasp problematic situations and find solutions. The added benefit is I have learned how to temper my passions with reasons, meaning I have learned to use my reasoning brain more than my emotional one.

As for physical fitness. I used to believe that I wasn't all that physically fit... however now that I'm fast approaching 50 my doctor informs me I have the cholesterol, blood pressure and general over all fitness of a man half my age.

Its not like I do anything special, I work outside as a landscaper, and I have my own veg garden and happen to like veg. I stay thin - boarding on too thin... LOL and healthy enough.

I do have a few habits, tobacco, alcohol, coffee, methamphetamine on occasion.... However in these things I apply moderation.... I use meth, I'm not a meth addict in a stereotypical way.

Its like eating ice cream - a couple three scoops now and then does no harm, eating gallons of that sugary ice everyday is going to catch up with you.

As I tell my friends, I might be going to hell, but I'm in no hurry to get there.

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#86221 - 04/03/14 06:49 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Azerelus]
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I've developed a daily meditation habit recently and I try to practice mindfulness as much as possible. I find it helps with focus, self-regulation, willpower and detaching from unhelpful thoughts.

Whether it's the meditation itself having a quantifiable effect on my brain, or it's just a placebo effect, is immaterial. It works and that's all I'm interested in.
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#86243 - 04/03/14 05:41 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Engel08]
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 Quote:
I have to say, the best thing that can come out of martial arts is the discipline you learn. Years back (When I was in secondary school..), I was training in Tae Kwon Do. The problem was after I got attacked at school (Sadly, I wasn't fully prepared to use the skills I had learned, due to being very timid in the past), and I got picked on by the tutor in the end. Then I quit. I'm kinda regretting it now, as I could have gotten much further if I'd just stuck it out.


I took up Judo when I was 10, and gave it up because all my mates were doing Karate (was the year of the Karate Kid film). I went back when I was in my late 20's and only gave it up because of back problems. I also did a bit of boxing and dabbled with MMA, but Judo will always be my favorite.

Meditation is something I have done privately for a number of years, mainly to quieten down my mind and get rid of annoying songs that seem to circle around my head during the day. I also like to have quiet time on my own, so it serves me well. I will always come out of meditation with a grin on my face.
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#87572 - 05/15/14 05:10 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Rob Taylor]
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Perhaps is a bit off-topic, but how do you feel about Yoga? I'm considering starting to practice Ashtanga Yoga. I've had problems with anxiety, mostly work-related, and I was told that Yoga could be helpful. I think that it might provide emotional focus, besides constituting mental and physical exercise in one strike. Has anyone tried it?
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#87591 - 05/15/14 01:34 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: drow666]
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Um, did you hear about the yogi who refused anesthetic during a root canal?
He wanted to transcend dental medication.

I've never been able to meditate worth a fig, because (a) I've got too many thoughts always rattling around in my head, and/or (b) something starts to itch. When I was younger, I could get into a full lotus, though I never quite understood why, because it wasn't comfortable. If I tried it today, I'd be ambulanced to a chiropractor.

That said, by all means go ahead and meditate. I gather it's supposed to calm you down, make you feel that You Are All One, United In Inner And Outer Space. Although I think you can get the same sensation riding the NYC subway at rush hour.
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#87597 - 05/15/14 02:17 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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"too many thoughts in my head" - same deal with me. Sure, I've tried to meditate in the same manner prescribed in Book 4 - it sounds great on paper but its nothing I've ever had the discipline to do on a regular basis. I've only been able to achieve any sort of notable result at the end of an exhausting day (and very few of my days are ever exhausting). I'm more interested in the hypnogagic state - that's where I get some incredibly wild results without even trying. Seems to me to be two methods to the same result (so far as I can infer anyway).

beyond that - well, if meditation tickles your fancy, go for it. its an activity like any other - may as well be asking about the "satanic" merits of playing chess.
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#87601 - 05/15/14 02:32 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: antikarmatomic]
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As a transcendentalist, I'm proficient at meditation but it's not the sit and do nothing zen type. It's a moving meditation. It allows for a lot going on in your head, while serving a utilitarian purpose.

LINK, I'm using the Cthulhu Mythos as an aesthetic for this piece but it should give you the jist of it.


Excuse the typos too, that was a rough-end copy for an article published in Chaosphere Magazine. I need to fix it. Meh.
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#87603 - 05/15/14 03:04 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
I'm using the Cthulhu Mythos as an aesthetic for this piece but it should give you the jist of it.

But doesn't this mean that just about the time you get focused, you get sucked up by invisible tentacles, hideously torn apart, and your atomic structure inverted by Yog-sothoth while Azathoth's loathsome flute-players make blasphemous music in the background?
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#87609 - 05/15/14 05:29 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
I'm using the Cthulhu Mythos as an aesthetic for this piece but it should give you the jist of it.

But doesn't this mean that just about the time you get focused, you get sucked up by invisible tentacles, hideously torn apart, and your atomic structure inverted by Yog-sothoth while Azathoth's loathsome flute-players make blasphemous music in the background?


One can only hope Mr. Aquino, one can only hope ;\)
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#87956 - 05/25/14 09:42 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: SIN3]
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Still on this topic, does anyone know of a good introductory book to the philosophy and practice of Tantra? I was not looking for an exclusively historical or anthropological perspective (I found a few of these books in our local library), but for a sort of "manual", so to speak, a practical guide. Though it would be a plus if it included some sort of summary of the history of this tradition.
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#87979 - 05/25/14 09:14 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Necrophilvs]
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It takes some sifting through to find valuable sources in English regarding Tantra, as there is a great deal of oversexualized American trash cluttering the book markets.

"Tantra: Path of Ecstasy" by Georg Feuerstein is one of the few honest portraits of Tantra in both philosophy and practice that I have come across, that is the most accesible to the outsider.

For further illumination, Julius Evola's "The Yoga of Power" is a great study on the Hindu left-hand tantra, in addition to the "AGHORA" trilogy by Robert E. Svoboda which describes in great detail the tantra of the Aghori sect.
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#87980 - 05/25/14 10:03 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Necrophilvs]
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I don't personally do meditation, though I suppose it may have some benefits for some. I do like the idea of removing thoughts that one deems 'negative', which I know is a focus of Buddhism. I wouldn't so much call it meditation though, as much as a 'mental conditioning' of sorts. In certain instances, it can be useful in invoking a mental state that one wants to attain. Buddhists would likely focus on 'light' emotions, although it could be used for 'darker' ones as well. Overcoming fears would probably be one of the best uses for this sort of thing, for me at least.

With physical fitness, I certainly feel it's important. It can be a big booster in terms of self esteem, actively going and reaching fitness goals, getting better. A lot of different goals to pursue, cardio, weight training and etc. Weight training of course can also be good for just being a bad ass mofo, lol. From a 'Satanic' standpoint, I like physical fitness goals since you can easily assess yourself with hard facts, and you aren't dependent on other's opinions of you in achieving them. You just go out there, do the training and see where your at. If you can run a 4 and a half minute mile, that's what you run, if you can deadlift 550, that's what you deadlift. Just compare yourself to others, if you want to know 'where you stand'.

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#87982 - 05/25/14 10:26 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: 334forwardspin]
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Lama Yeshe has written a number of good books on tantra. I'd read Longchenpa for source material on vajrayana buddhism. Kukai (founder of Shingon Buddhism) is in print in "The Weaving of Mantra" and several other books. Shingon contains the esoteric practice of "mikkyo". It involves mandala meditation. It is akin to vajrayana/tantra. Svoboda - Aghori Trilogy is good. Seriously though, the best way to learn is to go to a Shingon or Vajrayana Temple. It would be difficult to learn via books.
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#87984 - 05/26/14 03:13 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Physical fitness produces both a strong body and a strong mind. A person should push themselves beyond their physical limits on a regular basis.

Meditation in the traditional Eastern sense of stilling the mind isn't very appealing to me. I have practiced it in the past and I don't think I gained much benefit from it.

Meditation in the sense of pathworking or object concentration is more beneficial, in my experience.

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#87986 - 05/26/14 08:18 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: numen]
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Thanks guys, there's enough material here to get me going. I think I'm gonna start with Evola. \:\)
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#87990 - 05/26/14 01:08 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Necrophilvs]
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 Originally Posted By: Necrophilvs
Thanks guys, there's enough material here to get me going. I think I'm gonna start with Evola. \:\)

Well no; after all of this learned discourse, you really should start by thoroughly digesting Husserl's Ideas, which, once absorbed and co-relativized vis-a-vis quantum quasi-causality, will enable you to discern and metarticulate the conversations on 600C.

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#88002 - 05/27/14 01:42 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Thanks for the tip Dr., but no thanks. I like intellectual masturbation, but metaarticulation of esoteric discourse is not really my thing.
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#88266 - 05/31/14 12:59 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Necrophilvs]
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I just deeply concentrate on the whole idea, at a proper timing and mindset...
listening to video like that...

Tantra Mantra to invoke God Mahakala Bhairava

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1R8gJgFbfQ
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#91270 - 07/29/14 01:26 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Engel08]
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I use meditation because it increases the focus on the invoked deity.

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#93979 - 10/28/14 11:05 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Chr666]
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I have been meditating off and on over the past decade to varying levels of intensity. Mostly in the realm of concentration and insight forms from the theravada buddhist tradition. I have gained periods of joy and intense happiness in some sittings. It has also given me an ability to maintain some degree of calm in the midst of madness and stress when I end up dealing with things. With regards to pain, I have used the techniques to be able to observe it, but not allow it to overwhelm me or loose control. To give a recent example of its use, I was getting two cavities filled, the dentist apparently did not use enough numbing agent. I was able to observe the pain, but not flinch or show any sort of reaction physically to the pain. I suppose it gives me a greater deal of control over my mind and body, not ultimate control, but I am less controlled by my circumstances. I can use that aspect to better take advantage at those points where otherwise I may have been controlled by a situation.
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#93980 - 10/28/14 11:58 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Happy Satanist]
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Sitting meditation is faggy Hindu-Buddhist navel-gazing bullshit. Moving, martial meditation, on the other hand, like Iaido, in which you ritually decapitate your opponent and wipe his blood from your sword, is incredibly powerful and highly recommended.
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#93981 - 10/29/14 07:53 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Brother Nihil]
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 Originally Posted By: Brother Nihil
faggy Hindu-Buddhist navel-gazing bullshit.

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 Originally Posted By: Brother Nihil
martial meditation, on the other hand, is incredibly powerful and highly recommended.


I hope you understand that these two things are derived from the same source.

There is a thing known as Taijiquan. It is variously understood, but the central idea is the system of Meridians. This thing (call it a science) can be used both to heal and to hurt.

It is both Tai Chi and Dim Mak.

All of this being said, I wonder about your level of understanding. You don't seem terribly insightful to me. In fact, you seem to be a bit trivial.
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#94003 - 10/29/14 08:30 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Megatron]
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I would concur with Megatron. I do agree that there are a lot of hippie naval gazing deepok chopra loving types that also do the hindu-buddhist navel gazing stuff. I've met folks around here that are more likely to wear a Deicide shirt who meditate than some hippie crap. A lot of the martial arts in Asia evolved out of a mix of the various religions in their country including Taoism and Buddhism. Many times they ended up being protectors of the temples and many were also buddhist monks to a degree. You can find so much in common with martial arts and buddhist meditation, that you would really have a hard time really seeing them as unrelated. I've also seen a decent amount in modern times where shaolin and other similar martial arts monks living in buddhist monasteries. There is a whole lot of cross pollination going on.
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#94066 - 11/02/14 01:00 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Happy Satanist]
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Do you realize that meditation is Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Muslim, everything--

It's all.

It's who you are and what you are to be. It's everything. Don't you realize... don't you ever realize...?

It's just what it is--a thought to be a thought. So if a Satanist does it--it's BAD...!!

No it's not. It's not and never will be.

But one thing I must say is why it is that people hate it so much. It's so fun..!!

I personally love Satanism and I love the way it glows in my heart--yes I'm joking to an extent but yes I am also LOVING IT...!
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#94069 - 11/02/14 04:15 PM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: Brother Nihil]
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 Originally Posted By: Brother Nihil
Sitting meditation is faggy Hindu-Buddhist navel-gazing bullshit. Moving, martial meditation, on the other hand...

Those "faggy Buddhist" Shaolin monks could probably kick your ass.

The object of meditation is focus, where the mind is completely fixated on a single thing. The mind has a tendency to wander, and the point of meditation is to develop the discipline to prevent that.

It's far easier to focus on a certain stimulus if it's compelling and commands attention (such as voluntary muscle movement). It's far harder to focus on a stimulus if it's reflexive or subconscious (such as breathing). Sitting meditation is far harder, so it helps discipline the mind to such a degree that moving mindfulness is a piece of cake by comparison.
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#94081 - 11/03/14 10:17 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: XiaoGui17]
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The object of meditation is focus, where the mind is completely fixated on a single thing.


You're speaking of a specific type. Transcendental culture exists all over the world, many of the 'meditations' aren't focused on one thing. I happen to practice another specific type, it's a moving meditation. The goal isn't to focus on one thing nor achieve no-mind.

I agree with BroNil on this one. Another type I practice, involves more than staring at your naval. There are several forms of Martial training techniques that move and achieve a cohesive force.
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#94094 - 11/04/14 08:47 AM Re: how do satanist feel about meditation? [Re: SIN3]
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The object of meditation is focus, where the mind is completely fixated on a single thing.


You're speaking of a specific type. Transcendental culture exists all over the world, many of the 'meditations' aren't focused on one thing. I happen to practice another specific type, it's a moving meditation. The goal isn't to focus on one thing nor achieve no-mind.


You're both right. Meditation is just mindfulness. One can focus, de-focus, or anything in-between. Different goals require different approaches.
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