#38043 - 04/23/10 08:50 PM
Nihilism vs Satanism? how similar are the two?
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Cutter19
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iv done a decent bit of research and have noticed quite a few similarities between these two philosophies. I myself am a nihilist and just wanted some outside word on how similar or different they are. any info at all will be greatly appreciated, thanks much people. =)
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#38050 - 04/23/10 10:57 PM
Re: Nihilism vs Satanism? how similar are the two?
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Cutter19
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well thank you meg for actually replying with some info. as to you others, why bother replying if you have criticism about my post? if you dont want to offer up some knowledge about the question i asked save both of us time and dont say anything at all.
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#38175 - 04/29/10 03:32 AM
Re: Nihilism vs Satanism? how similar are the two?
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Doomsage680
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"Nihilism (from the Latin nihil, nothing) is the philosophical doctrine suggesting the negation of one or more meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism which argues that life[1] is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral nihilists assert that morality does not inherently exist, and that any established moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism can also take epistemological, metaphysical, or ontological forms, meaning respectively that in some aspect knowledge is not possible or that contrary to our belief, some aspect of reality does not exist as such."
It also accompanies/is associated with a state of despair.
I think that as a Satanist it still makes sense to say that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.
Nietzsche- "it is only when nihilism is overcome that a culture can have a true foundation upon which to thrive."
It seems to me that once one realizes there is no objective or inherent meaning to life, one can then place one's own goals as the highest and most meaningful.
It also seems to imply that once a culture abandons its false values, and acknowledges it, that it can move ahead much more rationally and intelligently. I don't think a society will ever fully admit that all of it's values, or at least, its most sacred ones, are meaningless. It might have periods of that realization, but people grasp for meaning too much to take the time to embrace nothingness and create from it their own vision. It will always be for independent minds to forge and manifest their own reality.
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#38186 - 04/29/10 03:44 PM
Re: Nihilism vs Satanism? how similar are the two?
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Cutter19
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wow, thanks for all of the responses. and to william wright, to me, nihilism is mostly as people put it, but minus the destruction and despair. maybe by definition thats what it is supposed to imply, but i have just recently come about being a nihilist, perhaps my beliefs differ to the point im technically not one, but in a nutshell. i understand that all meaning and values are subjective, that nothing man made truly matters in the grand scheme of things, because there is no grand scheme of things, if there is there is no proof which to believe so would lead to faith which i stray from. to me, the point of life is there is no point but to live it, right and wrong, good and evil, are objectively meaningless ideas. though i am not evil, obviously i have a subjective preference towards good most of the time, im far from a zealot, but i feel my sense of good is stronger than many peoples due to that fact, i am a generally good person because i like to be, not because i think ill get anything out of it or because some higher power commands it of me. and on Satanism, iv read the Satanic Bible and watched the documentary, i know quite a bit about it and nihilism, i just posted this to get a little extra insight, see if others view them the same as i do. but what i pretty much see it as, is that Satanism is the happy form of nihilism lol, you understand nothing has meaning so you attach your own to everything in the way that best suits you and makes your life enjoyable. let me know if you have any postivie or negative input on all of this. peace people
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#38703 - 05/20/10 03:57 PM
Re: Nihilism vs Satanism? how similar are the two?
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Dimitri
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It depends on what type of Satanist you are. A theistic Satanist will hold vastly different views than an atheistic one.
It seems to me that the statement you made is a quite obvious one.
What view does a theistic satanist has in comparence with a Atheistic Satanist concerning the view/idea of nihilism in Satanism?
Care to highlight that part, instead of spewing around obvious statements without consideration?
Edited by Dimitri (05/20/10 03:58 PM)
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