#38368 - 05/07/10 03:44 PM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
[Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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Doomsage680
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The idea of converting someone to Satanism reminds me of a question that four well-known atheists have spoken about: Would you want a world where religion no longer exists?
Christopher Hitchens, a great debater, author, and blunt Atheist answered something along the lines of: No, because since it will never go away, we can use it to sharpen our wit and continue to put forward arguments that make it easier for individuals to make the choice of leaving behind their faith.
The statement is somewhere in part 10 or 11 of The Four Horsemen, a discussion about Atheism by four leading authors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wwcGNPXCDU&feature=related
It is often beneficial to look at the flaws in an opposing argument to demonstrate how correct, or flawed, your own thinking may be. Religion is an institution of ignorance, and is quite useful in demonstrating the countless logical fallacies that might trap you in your own ideas.
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#38371 - 05/07/10 08:10 PM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
[Re: Doomsage680]
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ta2zz
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Rarely do I do such posts lumping together replies to many different members. It is not meant to be disrespectful to anyone.
Let’s squash this first shall we?
Such a waste of energy and time...
Then why participate? Why hit reply?
Simply because I can.
And I like to smash over-inflated egoes.
You also asked a question that was clearly answered should you have understood what you had read. CS said understand your enemy, get it? I must ask whose over inflated ego do you think you are deflating err smashing here?
Who’s time and energy are you complaining that’s being wasted if not clearly your own?
Please stop there really is no need to explain yourself any further. Most of the questions I ask of you are rhetorical. If I can see what you try to do here others do as well.
Did you have anything to add about your experience with any door to door god salesmen?
Trying to stretch out my answer here...
I don't have to deal with that problem. We have a sign that says 'No Solicitors'. It's really that easy.
After the last girl I decided that such a sign was needed that or simply an unwelcome sign.
Posted on enough other religious boards to know that, just about the time you think you've got another religion figured out, someone comes along and something new literally floats to the surface.
Always a different interpretation this is why not just any are qualified to teach.
Gotta take care of the here and now for me and mine and that's all that matters.
No one here can argue with that interpretation.
There was onetime I was eating at a local beach early morning blasting Celtic Frost in my car and I was approached by a JW. He was polite yet ballsy to knock on my window so I gave him a few minutes, we had a nice little chat he gave me some free schwag and talked a bit. It was the first time I realized JW’s interpreted the bibles heaven to be brought on earth by the second coming of Jesus. I told him he was listening to a song called Babylon Fell it was fun. I could have rolled up the window I could have drove off but I had a few minutes and felt chatty. I learned something much larger than one religions view I learned the power of interpretation.
I didn't think we were the Borg whereby we had to convert anyone. If anything, I would wish less idiots were running around claiming the title of Satanist.
The Borg existence seems rather boring. Most other religions would use these idiots as foot soldiers (perhaps spreading the word door to door) yet Satanists banish and ridicule them. If this doesn’t prove that unlike other religions there is no grand agenda in Satanism I don’t know what can.
Perhaps we need an agenda… Lol I know I went and said “WE”…
Just a weird side thought would Borg or any hive like race of beings wear clothes?
I remember those too. Since I'm into roleplaying games as well (unfortunately not as much as I used to) I also remember the ones that said playing Dungeons and Dragons would turn you into a devil worshipper. Hey, wait...
No, really, I don't worship the devil any more now than I did back when I was twelve. If there ever was devil worship in me, I don't think Gary Gygax put it there.
Do such things sway us from religion, thinking about such things as demons and monsters as nothing but fantasy is the real threat to organized religion. It allows you to open your mind enough to see how foolish it is to think these things real. RIP Gary Gygax your game has helped open a few minds.
Doomsage680,
Many forget that we needed everything we have to have gotten this far. This includes the fanatics and lunatics. One can see here on this very forum (of course much smaller) the workings of human nature. When there is a rush of newbies most complain how stupid most new members are as soon as it quiets down a bit there are cries of how stagnant the forum has become.
One cannot be converted to Satanism, perhaps awoken but never converted.
~T~
Stick around there are many lessons here, not all of them are so easily seen by all.
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We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams. ~Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy
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#39732 - 07/01/10 11:51 AM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
[Re: Doomsage680]
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NeoZombie
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Registered: 06/21/10
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Loc: Minnesota, USA
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Firsts and foremost I stripe down to my underwear to show them I am un-armed. Half naked but harmless. Then I invite the in to discuss the atrocity that is the Book of Mormon. In my travels I have look at this book from time to time and it is the worst piece of literature I have splayed eyes on.
Then they usually recoil in horror that I have said such blasphemy about their sacred delusions. I flip flop like a fish in Hilary Clinton's vagina,writhing for some kind of relief from the logic of Joke Smith. What the hell kind of king-loon writes shit like that?
Nevertheless, I enjoy when "witness of christ" tries to tell me more much he has done for them. So, the next time elder puke comes by don't just slam the down in there face slam the logic. I guarantee you will enjoy toying with the vassalage. And it never hurt to tell them how much Satan truly loves them.
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#39836 - 07/03/10 01:52 AM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
[Re: ceruleansteel]
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ta2zz
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Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 1413
Loc: Connecticut
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Are you so sure you’re deciphering Dimitri’s intent correctly?
It is fun to notice almost no one here ever used the words "I'm not interested, but still have a nice day" and closes the door politely.
Reads to me in English “I find it funny no one here ever used the words I’m not interested but instead they say have a nice day and they close the door politely”.
His previous post does mention him slamming the door.
Does it really help to have the knowledge hell does exist in their religion when you can simply say "fuck off" right before slamming the door in their faces, or even better: ignoring them altogether.
Clearly ignoring them is a secondary thought, his first was to slam the door. Lets add to this only two people say anything about slamming the door in anybodies faces in this thread.
The first to say anything about slamming a door was The Zebu who was followed by “trick”. So seeing as the majority of the posts here are explaining that most of “US” are not rude to these door-to-door peddlers, the only logical interpretation of Dimitri’s intent is to be mocking those who are polite. Perhaps you are right and he simply doesn’t comprehend what he is reading and doesn’t understand that the majority of the posts here are about “US” being polite and not about slamming the door at all. You knew that didn’t you CS?
Needless…
This concludes this lesson. Have a nice day.
~T~
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We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams. ~Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy
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#40103 - 07/09/10 11:15 PM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
[Re: Dimitri]
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Draculesti
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Registered: 09/18/07
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Loc: Rockville, Maryland
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I absolutely hate to be religiously solicited. Religious solicitation, to me, is a form of spiritual/intellectual rape. Just as forcing oneself physically on someone else is rape, forcing one's religious beliefs on another is spiritual rape.
I can't tell you how many times I've had religious fundies seek me out (by the way, what the fuck does it say about me that they always seem to find me like I have some kind of fucking "SAVE ME!" beacon attached to me?) and subtly/not-so-subtly imply that the way I'm living my life is wrong (after having known me for all of two seconds) because, "hey, I used to be just like you, brother, just living my life, watching the ol' pornography, drinking, gambling..." Okay, I own up to the pornography, but I seldom drink alcohol, and I don't have any money to piss away on gambling, anyway. And I always love how they open with "Do you know Jesus?" Well, I suppose I know him as well as anyone can know someone who supposedly lived ca. 2000 years ago. They might as well ask if I know Tutankhamun or Hammurabi. Or Elvis. "Yeah, I know Jesus, but last I heard, he was in the klink; why don't you look there? That's where everyone else seems to find him."
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