#48170 - 02/05/11 11:59 PM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
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Pheonix666
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I've lived as a mormon for about 17 years, so I've had my fair share of experiences. However, after I graduated High School, I became, what they call, an "inactive member." Well, truth be told, I'm waiting on my letter from their church to officially knock me out of their sysytem, so that my name can never be used again.
Anyways, about March of last year, I became part of the Satanic world, and in July, I started to switch to the Luciferian way. About that time, in July, I became more of a cold hearted bastard and had a wonderful heated argument with a mormon missionary. He was a fanatic, and even I could see that, and I had forgotten my shades and couldn't see five feet in front of me.
He began to discuss how his god was the "true father" and only he can save us from ourselves. At first, I had no idea what he was talking about, and said that his sort of god doesn't exist, and he can never prove me wrong. Well, suffice to say, he didn't like me very much, and I found some entertainment from my boring afternoon. At first, he began like they always do, and said that I'll burn for all eternity if I don't worship his sort of god. It made me laugh at that point, and began to tell him about reincarnation. That its been documented, and proven, that it is more than possible, than the idea of a "god."
His companion, at the time, did not do anything, nor said anything, which made me wonder what was going through his head at the time. The one that I was arguing with, began to quote from his storybooks, so, being the bastard that I still am today, I began to quote right back at him. When he got to quoting the oh so famous one of "The meak shall inherit the earth," I couldn't help myself. I replied with, "You sure ain't meak, standing there all high and mighty. Trying to look down your noes at me when I'm standing a foot taller than you."
Well, next thing I know, I'm looking up at the beautiful face of a nurse, who was busy making sure I didn't have a concussion, and the missionary who had clubbed me was in handcuffs. All the while, the other one was explaining what had happened.
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#48191 - 02/06/11 08:18 AM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
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XiaoGui17
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I've lived as a mormon for about 17 years, so I've had my fair share of experiences...About that time, in July, I became more of a cold hearted bastard and had a wonderful heated argument with a mormon missionary...At first, he began like they always do, and said that I'll burn for all eternity if I don't worship his sort of god.
Earlier in this thread...
NO Mormon or Jehovah's Witness would ever tell ANYONE that they are going to burn in hell for ANYTHING because neither one of them believe in hell, nor do they believe that their is a place where "souls" burn, either temporarily or eternally.
CS is right. I’m surprised that someone who identifies himself as a former Mormon of 17 years would be so oblivious to their doctrine… and also their culture. Either you grew up among the most heretical Mormons that ever walked the planet, or there’s something fishier about your story than oil-packed solid white albacore.
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#48206 - 02/06/11 11:37 AM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
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Pheonix666
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Oh no, they still do preach about burning in hell. I've been told it too many times if I don't shape up and keep thinking the way that they do.
They believe in quite a number of things. Their 3 levels of heaven, a Fire and Brimstone sort of Hell, and Outer Darkness, or Oblivion.
The first level is Celestial, which has three separate levels in itself. Its there where you don't have much of a free will, and are forced to sing praises to their imaginary god, and to become a sex machine for all eternity.
The second is Terrestrial. And thats basically what you see here. It is the earth that we live on now, but more peaceful, and it is styled as a waiting room for their sort of god and his angels to come down and talk to those people. Where they will try and sway people to their sort of thinking, and, in time, bring them to the first level.
The third is Telestial. It is basically an earth styled prison, full of violence and "sin". It is the earth that we now live in, and when their god and angels come down, we will be forced to listen to their long winded speeches and be doubly forced onto their sort of path.
Hell. A sort that is where Satan lives, and tortures you for all eternity. A sort of place where its hot as the sun during the winter months, and hotter still in the summer. A wonderful place where, according to the mormons, angels can still come down and visit. To talk to people, and try to get them to come to heaven with them.
Outer Darkness, or Oblivion. This is the no mans land. A place where your "soul" dies, and you become nothing. You have no consciousness or anything else, for you are now forever removed from the sights of men and their "god". Who, more than likely, has destroyed your "soul" utterly, and cast what was left away from him, then removed your imprint on the lives of others, forever.
This is what I have been taught, and what they still teach to this day.
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#48236 - 02/06/11 05:02 PM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
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TheInsane
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I love to debate and discuss. If I was in a good mood and had nothing else to do I would invite them in to my home over a cup of tea. But then again I have never lived in an area (or a country) where this is common practice. If they came every week I would obviously get tired of it but as things are now it almost never happens and I do enjoy it when it does
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#48289 - 02/07/11 05:57 AM
Re: What do you do when a missionary comes over?
[Re: XiaoGui17]
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Pheonix666
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@XiaoGui17
LDS, not RLDS, or FLDS. I was raised in an older style, I guess you could say, as I had grown up in the late 80s-90s, and had to put up with so much crap. All this new stuff thats come out, really does baffle me sometimes. Like them saying that they're now considering themselves as "mormons". When, by the by, they would have called it an insult, and would have rathered be called LDS, instead.
I would call this 'hypocritical,' but others would say that they are changing, becoming more 'modern'. Say, and think, what you will of them, but tell me this: Is it not true that you've not experienced them as I did? Have you ever walked into their churches on sunday, and watched even one of their meetings take place? Its a cheap shot, I know, but have you?
One more thing. Yes, my home town is, in fact, El Paso, TX, which is home to the polygamist, and radical, LDS groups. However, I assure you, I've never been apart of them before, nor knew about them, until I had reached New York.
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