They're a money-making machine making a mint off the gullible. Just one bizarre cult/religion/source of misinformation (take your pick) of many. Still, since this fruity myth is more modern than traditional faiths, it is thus less incorporated into the public's worldview - having the soul of a dead alien is a slightly less tolerated belief than having a man die for your sins.
So there might be a chance in opposing them. The Church of Scientology is a pretty powerful entity though, make no mistake about it. It is unlikely IMO that exposing their lies and misinformation will have much impact on the faith of believers - or those inclined to unthinkingly serve and follow such charismatic leaders...
Believers will always find a way to psychologically 'compartmentalise' their faith (or superstition?), keeping it immune from rational criticism.
Edited by Mequa (02/03/0804:53 PM) Edit Reason: Compartmentalisation
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Its just another organizion that gives people what they want. They want direction, a reason why their life is the way it is, a reason why they make bad choices, and something that they can believe in. Another church, religion, cult, and etc.
Whats the difference between a cult and a religion... One hundred years. (ex: the mormons)
It is a pretty well connected organization just like the catholic church. They push issues, complain, and people on occassion die from what they experience within the walls of the organization.
Its nothing new in the whole scheme of human religious development except that it was codified by a science fiction author.
For as many people as it helps, it hurts. Its just what religions do when you use them to make decisions about your life instead of taking responsibily for your own life.
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Exactly. Look at all the catholics that listen to the "teachings" on the morality of gay sex while their priests fuck the children, then donate money to them.
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So...correct me if I am wrong. Satanists are against organized religion but Satanism is in itself a religion...? ...It has teachings and codes and stuff too, right? Or is Satanism just against organized religion that focuses on a deity?
I am sorry if I seem ignorant, I am still learning about Satanism so help me out here.
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There are a few things to consider here:
First, many satanists (the individuals) are in fact against organized religion. And though Satanism (the ideology) itself is a religion, it need not be (as quite often is the case) organized. The important thing to remember here is that the belief of Satanism in no way makes any commandment about one's ability to believe in or against an organized religion. It does however promote individuality and personal thought, where it just so happens that many individuals conclude on their own that organized religion is not for them.
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Or is Satanism just against organized religion that focuses on a deity?
The short answer is no, but if you really want to delve into that a bit I recommend perusing the Satanism forum here.
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I REMEMBER GETTING KICKED OUT by the scientlology who owns the garic theater it was a FEAR FACTORY CONCERT SPARKING A JOINT, they stuffed my back pockets with some pamphlets and escorted me out,. im still mad at that.
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Just to let you know, they are having/hosting a street fair in New York City near the end of June. Should be interesting to see what they plan to do.
Usually street fairs have food, games, stuff for sale. What will they do? Toss a Ring around Xenu, win a goldfish? Sit for a reading, get a free hotdog?
Morg
Ps. Honestly seeing their building complex in Los Angeles about a week ago was bizarre. Big blue buildings, and everyone dressed the same. Kinda freaky cult-like.
They dont really have anything like that in Nyc that I am aware of.
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And what's the point of this? To draw yet more attention from relevant topics, such as the Bush administration and ecological disasters...give me a freaking break...
mental masturbators getting a power trip from abusing religious nuts who are pretty irrelevant...ya'll are nuts...
And what's the point of this? To draw yet more attention from relevant topics, such as the Bush administration and ecological disasters...give me a freaking break...
mental masturbators getting a power trip from abusing religious nuts who are pretty irrelevant...ya'll are nuts...
Oh Naomi thats just didoes...
To those who's family members get caught up in such cults this subject can be more important... Beside global warming *pahh* the impact will take place well beyond our lifetimes... When I die as far as I am concerned life is over... What should I care how long humanity lasts?
Seriously what are you doing to make sure the Bush administration is held responsible for their crimes against the United States Constitution? Posting on a forum about it or complaining there is not enough being posted about it?
*you've made me giggle*
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And what's the point of this? To draw yet more attention from relevant topics, such as the Bush administration and ecological disasters...give me a freaking break...
Well... I am not sure how much you know about the Bohemian Club... But the founder of scientology Mr. Hubbard's father Was an active member of such...
I have come under attack from the roman catholic church because I adhere to the teachings of DR. Anton LaVey. I foolishly let people know what I truly believed in. The Church of Scientology became a convenient "cover" for me. I took a few courses and donated some of my artwork. They were courteous and nice to me> They are, however, rather serious about collecting that money. I was actually escorted to and from the ATM when I was enrolling in a course! If I could only start a whorehouse or casino with such an enthusiastic staff, I would be rotten rich!!!. Oh yes, and there are many wealthy Scientologists. Perhaps now it would behoove them to make something of my donated work, make me famous, make me rich. Who cares what they believe in. I want their money, dammit.
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Napalm, Yeah um, drinking and posting is bad. That could get you in really really bad trouble. Please refrain from doing it, or at least make it really really funny. Thanks, Morgan
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Napalm is on my "watch list". Everyone, including me, is entitled to make a few drunken/drugged posts and still remain. But when it becomes a habit, then you will be ejected.
Napalm, this is a warning. Some of your previous posts have been incoherant. More of this vomit, and you will be sent packing.
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"The U.S. State Department has criticized Belgium, Germany and other European countries for labeling Scientology a cult or sect and enacting laws to restrict its operations."
I guess the US State Department doesn't believe in seperation of church and state, or recognize a Foreign Country's right to govern itself.
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I guess the US State Department doesn't believe in seperation of church and state, or recognize a Foreign Country's right to govern itself.
Of course not. Is any of this surprising?
Scientology is bullshit, but when you think about it, they aren't any more "crazy" than any of the other religions when considering their beliefs. Virgin birth, talking snake, yeah that is ok. Alien souls? Now you have gone too far!
L Ron Hubbard has a famous quote saying something to the effect of "The real money is in religion". If people are going to be so dumb, let the sheep get fleeced. If only "we" (as individuals, not Satanists) were lucky enough to amass such a well to do following of people who were eager to throw their money away.
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"The U.S. State Department has criticized Belgium, Germany and other European countries for labeling Scientology a cult or sect and enacting laws to restrict its operations."
yeah, it gave quite some fuzz a few years ago. If I'm not mistaking: they had to pay several thousands of euros for already committed "crimes".
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Scientology is still in it's infancy compared to Christianity and I feel is just as scarey. Having family members who are Scientologists acting an aweful lot like our "good friends" the Missionary Baptists in their commitment to spread the word.
Giving people more options is always a good thing, and when they turn around and dig them selves into a hole such as Scientology... I can't blame people for wanting to shovel dirt on them.
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