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#38746 - 05/23/10 09:39 AM Austrialia customs searches through people's porn
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http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-enterta...aptops-for-porn

So, just to make sure you don't bring in the wrong type of porn, customs agents can search your laptop and other electronic devices.
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#38748 - 05/23/10 10:22 AM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's porn [Re: Shadow Dragon]
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I didn't see in the link a reason for this. Why are they doing it? Just more useless shit for those overrated security guards to waste everyones time on.

Oh well, Australia sucks anyways.

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#38757 - 05/23/10 07:16 PM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's porn [Re: Adversary]
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I would assume it is simply for security purposes to catch sexual predators such as someone who might have child pornography and avoid them entering the country. While it might be a little excessive to go through everyone's several pieces of electronics, it will probably end up being useful and if you are entering their country, they can search what they want. If you don't want to put "yes" you can delete your videos and download them again once there or if it is a video between you and your partner which you don't want to get rid of and you don't want to show, you can save it on an online harddrive such as skydrive. There are ways around it and if you don't have any illegal content then it shouldn't affect you.
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#38761 - 05/23/10 08:53 PM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's porn [Re: Shadow Dragon]
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 Originally Posted By: Shadow Dragon
http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-features/49864-australia-to-search-travelers-laptops-for-porn

So, just to make sure you don't bring in the wrong type of porn, customs agents can search your laptop and other electronic devices.

Actually the real issue is with the fact that many will say no and become a criminal by doing so.
What is the Australian definition of pornography in the article we see it states.
"If you and your partner have filmed or photographed yourselves making love in an exotic destination or even taking a bath, you will have to answer 'Yes' to the question or you will be breaking the law," warns president Fiona Patten. The question also applies to a wide range of perfectly legal magazines and movies.

What legal movies and magazines are considered porn? Is my digital copy of Caligula going to get me arrested or only if I say no because I forgot it was there?

Do you travel to Australia at all or carry porn around with you on a laptop, thumb drive or I-phone?

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#38762 - 05/23/10 08:59 PM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's porn [Re: Adversary]
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 Originally Posted By: Adversary
I didn't see in the link a reason for this. Why are they doing it? Just more useless shit for those overrated security guards to waste everyones time on.

Oh well, Australia sucks anyways.

The article does state, "Patten says the changes appear to have been introduced at the instigation of National Party senator Barnaby Joyce and Liberal senator, Eric Abetz."

As an example here in the states any policeman has many different reasons to initiate a traffic stop, once they have you pulled over they can “then” see if you are breaking any laws. Do you really think this reason of pornography is little more than a reason to arrest you for your illegally downloaded music, programs, etc or to simply collect a list of people who do? It makes plenty of sense from their perspective.

Why does Australia suck, on what do you base this opinion besides this article?

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#38763 - 05/23/10 09:19 PM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's porn [Re: FriendlyS]
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 Originally Posted By: FriendlyS
I would assume it is simply for security purposes to catch sexual predators such as someone who might have child pornography and avoid them entering the country.

Do you really think child pornographers travel around with their porn from country to country? What do you base this assumption on, has there been an increase in child porn crossing the border in Australia lately?

 Originally Posted By: FriendlyS
While it might be a little excessive to go through everyone's several pieces of electronics, it will probably end up being useful and if you are entering their country, they can search what they want.

Useful to the person collecting the information but in what way will this be used?

 Originally Posted By: FriendlyS
If you don't want to put "yes" you can delete your videos and download them again once there

This changes what exactly? Do you think putting no will stop or effect a search in any way?

 Originally Posted By: FriendlyS
or if it is a video between you and your partner which you don't want to get rid of and you don't want to show, you can save it on an online harddrive such as skydrive.

Oh yes that’s where I would put my personal homemade porn somewhere on the internet. Why not just throw it on pornhub?

 Originally Posted By: FriendlyS
There are ways around it and if you don't have any illegal content then it shouldn't affect you.

Yes their programming is working you keep telling yourself that as long as you’re a good little sheep they will let you keep your wool.

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#38765 - 05/23/10 10:32 PM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's porn [Re: ta2zz]
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 Originally Posted By: ta2zz
Do you really think child pornographers travel around with their porn from country to country? What do you base this assumption on, has there been an increase in child porn crossing the border in Australia lately?

I never said it was the reason. I just said it is possibly the reason because they wouldn't be looking through your pornography if they weren't looking for something illegal. I am just offering a possible reason. It might be wrong, it might be right. I don't care, it makes no difference what the reason is. And no, I don't believe that child pornographers would be that stupid. That doesn't mean they won't check for one that might be.

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Useful to the person collecting the information but in what way will this be used?

Again, I never said the information would be useful. The act of searching might be useful even if they never find anything because it will act as an extra deterrent. People never worried about what they brought into countries on their laptops because no one ever checked. Granted, people who are determined will find ways around it.

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This changes what exactly? Do you think putting no will stop or effect a search in any way?

My point wasn't what will be effected by your answer on the questionnaire. The point I was trying to make was, just delete your pornography if you have a problem with people going through it in the airport. If you clean your computer before going, it doesn't matter if they search it or not.

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Oh yes that’s where I would put my personal homemade porn somewhere on the internet. Why not just throw it on pornhub?

I don't mean putting it up on a public internet spot. The example I gave is skydrive so I will expand. Skydrive is run by windows live or hotmail or whatever you want to call it. You access it with your e-mail account information and it is private unless someone hacks your account or knows your password. If you trust your e-mail, you can trust skydrive. And it was just an idea I was throwing out, I am not forcing anyone to use it or saying it is totally safe. I could care less what you do with your home-made pornography. I was just saying that there are options for taking it with you without having it on your electronic devices and giving an example of one. The decision to use it is still yours.

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Yes their programming is working you keep telling yourself that as long as you’re a good little sheep they will let you keep your wool.

Fine, keep your illegal videos and photos on your laptop. Again, I could care less. But it is the same thing with everything. The majority of people don't bring illegal drugs with them when they travel but they still have their luggage searched and x-rayed. They are simply extending their search for contraband to include things that could be brought on electronic devices. It has nothing to do with being a sheep.

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#38773 - 05/24/10 07:00 AM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's porn [Re: FriendlyS]
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This is in part related to the Australian web filter. This whole thing started under the guise of stopping kiddie porn, however the current ruling part has adding other types of porn that they deem too offensive for adults to own and/or distribute. This includes fetish material (bondage, s/m, etc), anything where the female ejaculates and any porn where they think the star looks underage (his/her real age being ilrelavent).

This is a case of a nanny-state trying to dictate morality to it's populus. However, whenever someone argues against this, the powers that be in Australie just immediately jump back to the kiddie porn thing. So if you are against any of their policies, you get labelled as being for child pornography.
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#38775 - 05/24/10 01:28 PM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's porn [Re: Shadow Dragon]
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I have had two DVDs stopped by customs. I was very surprised. Both had some BDSM content and that was enough.

One of these was "The House of Sex and Domination" and if anybody has seen that (which I have since) then I bet you are as surprised as I was that this would be regarded as illegal material.

Evidently Australia is still very uptight about such things.

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#38776 - 05/24/10 04:13 PM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's p [Re: Shadow Dragon]
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Well, I think that all of you need to remember that Australia has some very serious porn problems, such as this and this, and is thus entitled to exceptional protective measures in this epidemic of shocking licentiousness gone wild.
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#38809 - 05/26/10 10:24 AM Re: Austrialia customs searches through people's p [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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That koala one is way more violent than what I had confiscated. It must be our government supporting the local industry that kept that one on air.
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