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#38832 - 05/27/10 03:48 AM The Psychology of Man's Possible Evolution
Valor Offline
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P.D Ouspensky has a great series of books, one stands out alone in my opinion. It's titled "the psychology of mans possible evolution.

The psychology Ouspensky sets forth in these introductory lectures has existed in one form or another for thousands of years and, unlike modern psychology, studies man from the point of view of what he may become.

Once a man relizes how little control he has over his reactions to external circumstances and internal stimuli, he may wish to find a way to become free of this mechanicle way of living.

Ouspensky describes how a man must work simutaneosly on his knowledge and his being to find inner unity and why although his development depends on his own efforts, this is very difficult to achieve without guidance from a "school."

The present edition of this book includes a lecture, not previously published, in which he gives some details of the "school of the forth way", with which he was connected, and an account of some of its fundamental principles, methods and rules.
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#38924 - 05/30/10 11:15 AM Re: The Psychology of Man's Possible Evolution [Re: Valor]
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Wouldn't he have control over his actions, since he has the ability to control his thoughts and his body? Or am I missing something?

Somehow this sounds more like philosophy than psychology.
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#39725 - 07/01/10 01:55 AM Re: The Psychology of Man's Possible Evolution [Re: Valor]
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The psychology Ouspensky sets forth in these introductory lectures has existed in one form or another for thousands of years and, unlike modern psychology, studies man from the point of view of what he may become.

"The above paragraph is entirely speculation. Right there I know some thing is wrong. Everything we know about the "christed" one is speculation. Nothing more than a figment of the imagination. He may have walked, but he sure as hell did not stop the entire universe so that water could become wine before the "sheep's" very eyes. that brings us to the dangers of the statement below."

Once a man relizes how little control he has over his reactions to external circumstances and internal stimuli, he may wish to find a way to become free of this mechanicle way of living.

"buddha, sacrifice self, serve the community, take little. About the same philosophy as King Joshua. The next paragraph is more indoctrination ideology."

Ouspensky describes how a man must work simutaneosly on his knowledge and his being to find inner unity and why although his development depends on his own efforts, this is very difficult to achieve without guidance from a "school."

"Inner piece is easy, you learn and apply that in a weekend online. Weather it is religion, "spiritual practice", or government mandated school, all alone in the woods, the a blast of pure opium there is nothing anyone needs to do to achieve whatever the seek. This man's ideas are nothing new, I am earnestly sorry if you waste any more time on this douche bag."
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#39727 - 07/01/10 03:42 AM Re: The Psychology of Man's Possible Evolution [Re: NeoZombie]
MatthewJ1
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I am having some trouble understanding the meaning of your post.

The fact that there are a number of spelling mistakes, invented words, sentence fragments and other infringements of some very basic grammatical rules does not help.

Is this post a critique of Valor’s comments regarding this book, or is this post a critique of Ouspensky and the work itself?

Can you please restate your position in the clearest possible terms and provide some form of evidence or reasonable justification for your position.

Can you please compose your post in a Word document and ensure that it is properly spell and grammar checked. Don't submit until it is perfect.

This Ouspensky book offers much more than you are suggesting here and is quite highly regarded.

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#41219 - 08/01/10 03:44 PM Re: The Psychology of Man's Possible Evolution [Re: Valor]
SODOMIZER Offline
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Registered: 07/04/10
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 Originally Posted By: Valor
Once a man realizes how little control he has over his reactions to external circumstances and internal stimuli, he may wish to find a way to become free of this mechanical way of living.


Schopenhauer beat him to it by a sizable margin, and the Upanishads were there even longer ago.

Mechanical way of living? Or perhaps emotions are mechanical...
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#41258 - 08/02/10 02:52 AM "There is no System." [Re: Valor]
Apion Offline
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Ouspensky shelved the whole idea later in his life. Before running with any advise I'd first check how the teacher faired.

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Ironically his assiduously promulgated image, as the only true custodian of a deeply valued teaching, was no longer mirrored in his private reflections. Pressed by Marie Seton – who had grown concerned over his gourmet life-style and explosive temper – he shocked her by confiding his contempt for his pupils, his conviction that neither they nor he had gained anything from the System, and his intention, nevertheless, to maintain the role of teacher, because of the comfort and luxury it afforded. She urged him to give up the lectures until he had found his way again; when he refused, she left the Work.


- http://www.ouspensky.org.uk/mainappreciation.htm

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