This is the reason why I didn't read this post: lack of proper spelling and horrific grammar. As a matter of fact, wordrape of this magnitude should constitute a Satanic Felony.

Please use spell-check in the future. It's not difficult.

You can claim to others you achieved the goal or received the goods (or say it is on hold), but I am quite sure there are enough a-holes who would demand proof. And if you can't come-up with it you surely are doomed to loose your face and great deals of credibility.

This is the issue of how lying can effect/affect our Objective universe. Now... during this ritual you ask to be granted a particular object of desire/s. Once this Rite is complete you then tell a friend that you possess this object, but stress that it's sorta "on hold", if you will... is this still lying? Or is it only a lie if it doesn't come true? If this object never reveals itself? How does this concern ethics in accordance with "the good"?

Your stupidity is really mindblowing...
You practice lower magic by selfish needs, fine with that. But you also claimed to have achieved certain results. If you claimed to have achieved a goal, or claimed to have gotten some goods then I can ask you to proove these claims. If you cannot do so then you are merely self-delusioned.

As based on the original writing:

I'm having a tough time with your "proof" opinion here. See, i pratice LBM for reasons i'm comfortable with and i need not apply proof of this work to anyone. I'm doing this selfishly, and rightly so, for my own reasons. do you understand what i'm saying? A selfish application has no need to be proved.

You can keep your ad hominem attacks, very becoming...i'll even let you talk about my mother when your ready to grow up to a level where we can keep the dialog mature? lol...How mindblowing was it?

Otherwise i'll wait for a more refined responce from someone other than you. Until then consider yourself invisible?

Always and ever forward, Valor.

If achieving a certain ends for your own purposes is all you really wanted, why come tell us about it? I mean, if the result it got for you was a reward enough in and of itself, why share the news with us? Why not just revel in the fruits of your efforts alone? The only reason you'd feel the need to come share this with us is to have us stroke your ego, and I doubt you're going to get that with this horrific post.

An ad hominem, Valor, is when someone makes an insult in lieu of addressing your argument, and claims the insult in and of itself somehow defeated your argument. Dimitri made an insult (and a quite accurate one, mind you) in addition to addressing your argument, not instead of addressing your argument. I can't stand it when people fling around the names of fallacies without any understanding of how to properly apply them. You fail at logic and spelling. I anticipate this thread being locked and you being ousted in the near future. See? I'm psychic!

are these the best replies i'm going to hear? Am i not meeting the clubs bar? and if not, will you explain how?

I do a ritual and wish for a Ferrari
After the ritual I go to my friend and tell him I HAVE a Ferrari

The question is: is this a lie or is it not because, if I do a ritual as such, I surely will get my Ferrari.

No, you aren't meeting the bar. We tried to explain to you the hows and the whys of it but you are too busy trying in vain to fluff yourself. Your spelling sucks ass, your grammar sucks ass, and you fail at big words and Latin. This is how you are not making the grade.

You are your words here. If your use of the English language is subpar, then by default YOU are subpar. If you can't master your own language then it doesn't matter what impressive thoughts you MIGHT have, no one is going to pay attention to that. We will see your lack of education first and that will be the only thing we see. Stupid people can't possibly have thoughts worth reading.

Stop trying to argue about it and just do better.

please point where my spelling is in error? Otherwise stay on topic...i dont need your corriculum. Some how i feel your attracted to malice instead of replying to an honest question. If i'm under the "Bar" then why are you gravitatings toward me so much? Aren't you preoccupied with more intellectual threads? but you keep pooping up here? hmmm