#51798 - 03/27/11 06:41 AM
Re: Anton Lavey - Do you try to be like him?
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SPEEDEMON
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Registered: 03/27/11
Posts: 35
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Knieevel74 your first two sentences sum it up beautifly. I also think you did right by your freind by not giving him the book. People do alot of very rash things when the are distraught.
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#52004 - 03/31/11 09:01 PM
Re: Anton Lavey - Do you try to be like him?
[Re: SPEEDEMON]
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RedAnthrax
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Registered: 03/31/11
Posts: 3
Loc: United States
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There is no Devil, and no God.
God and the Devil are symbols and representations of man's emotions. Good and Evil.
The best way to go about life is to not do things for completely good reasons, but no be corrupt either.
Every group thinks that they have it right.
But the best way to live life is to be good, but not a saint, and to be evil, but not a demon.
Don't go out of your way to mess with people, but if they mess with you. Shut them down.
Don't go out of your way to help people, but if you happen upon them along your life's journey, lend a hand. You never know who'll be useful later in life.
Those are just my opinions however.
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#52330 - 04/06/11 10:47 PM
Re: Anton Lavey - Do you try to be like him?
[Re: Fnord]
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Hail Thyself
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Registered: 03/17/11
Posts: 1
Loc: Florida
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"Are you a wannabe life coach or something RedAnthrax?"
He's a friend of mine that I told of Satanism, and is fairly new (to Satansim, and the forum), so he just tried to represent what he knew, but ended up spewing out some crap that was full of terms that are different and relative to the person (such as god, evil, etc.).
I agree that just about everything that he said could be interpreted differently by different people.
"The best way to go about life is to not do things for completely good reason, but no be corrupt either."
This just seems to me that he is trying to paint himself as evil, it seems to align with the desire for shock value that I see he wants; but I honestly believe that this forum is the last place he will get any of that.
As far as the original question on the thread, I do not try to live like anyone. If what I do ends up resembling someone else, that's fine, but I would never try to live like someone else. I am who I am and shall not change. Who would one be trying to impress? Random People? I couldn't care less if people that I didn't know perished, let alone care what they thought of my conduct.
And while I'm at it, I guess I'll take this small paragraph as an introduction paragraph--I'm Michael, and I'm 15. That's enough; I look forward to getting back into the forums.
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"Do unto others as they do unto you."
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#63219 - 01/01/12 12:34 AM
Re: Anton Lavey - Do you try to be like him?
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Shea
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Registered: 03/24/11
Posts: 108
Loc: Chicago
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LaVey is a pivotal figure in the history of Satanism. Have I grown a goatee, shaved my head and begun wearing an inverted Pentagram in an attempt to achieve, or co-opt, his success? Nope.
I dig LaVey, but I am my own man. Striving to attain any idealistic principles one holds to be true or valuable is fulfilling enough without trying to live up to those of another.
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#63237 - 01/01/12 10:42 PM
Re: Anton Lavey - Do you try to be like him?
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Michael A.Aquino
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Registered: 09/28/08
Posts: 2480
Loc: San Francisco, CA, USA
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It never occurred to me to try to imitate Anton personally, but I will share one bit of "history" here that may be both amusing and inspirational:
I grew up in a home whose rooms were all painted white. Just about every other home I visited also had its rooms painted white. So did offices, stores, etc. This was so universal and pervasive that I suppose I assumed it inevitable, like black rotary-dial telephones and while appliances.
Well, the first time I walked into 6114 California Street for a 1969 lecture event, I was struck not just by the decorations and curios, but by the room colors. There wasn't a white wall in the entire building. Indeed most of the rooms were called by their wall-colors, which were not pastel either, but in-your-face-rich: Purple Room, Red Room, Blue Room, etc. [See the Plates section of my Church of Satan for some photos.]
I can't tell you how much richer, warmer, and thoroughly gruntling this colored environment was. Suddenly going home to white walls was horrible, like living in a freezer or a morgue. Ever since then, when I could get away with it, I have had richly-colored walls in my homes.
This was a bit tougher in the Army, since on-post officer housing rules are very restrictive. But when I rented the little white house at 701 Bland Street, Brandenburg, KY and founded the Nineveh Grotto, I painted its attic completely black as the Ritual Chamber, and never looked back since. [Had to repaint it white when moving, and I bet subsequent renters/owners have wondered about scratching the attic walls and finding black underneath.]
If there is an underlying "moral" here, it is that Anton was a pioneer in living his idealized, fantasy existence and lifestyle, not conforming to society's standards and expectations. But he did this authentically, because it was his true being, not just to show off, advertise, or shock. Once you appreciate that he was a person who "lived his dreams", including in his surroundings, choice of friends, waking/sleeping hours, and etc., he'll be much more intelligible to you.
This is also why people who simply attempt to superficially imitate Anton's appearance or lifestyle just make fools of themselves. They're completely missing this central point.
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#63369 - 01/06/12 06:33 AM
Re: Anton Lavey - Do you try to be like him?
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seekswisdom
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Registered: 01/04/12
Posts: 104
Loc: California,U.S.
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Isn't a true Satanist supposed to be about Satan and not LaVey? That was my immpression why you left the CoS, because he chose filthy lucre over Satan.It's like you have a personal relationship with Satan and it broke your heart when LaVey didnt want to grow closer to Satan anymore.
The colored walls have a great mind calming sense about them, I have blue in the bathroom because it has a calming and peacefull effect.What's your favorite color for the bedroom?
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#63446 - 01/07/12 11:19 PM
Re: Anton Lavey - Do you try to be like him?
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seekswisdom
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Registered: 01/04/12
Posts: 104
Loc: California,U.S.
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I belielve we should find our own path too. Dont follow just one guy,book,way,ect. As a Cappricorn, "missed the new year by one day" I strive for perfection, but have always been as courious as a cat. When I was a child I used to rute for the villan on the cartoons and have always loved fairs,carnivals,Halloween,and forbidden knowlegde;"you know the kind god does'nt want us to know".
My husband told me today that you can turn your back on a dog and the dog wont attack,but if you turn on a big cat "watch out". 
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#63451 - 01/08/12 12:30 AM
Re: Anton Lavey - Do you try to be like him?
[Re: seekswisdom]
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Zach_Black
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Registered: 05/14/11
Posts: 541
Loc: San Diego, California
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Forgive me if my sentiments are a reiteration of others on this thread . I did not take the time to read the entire thing.
I got mad respect for LaVey. So this is no shame on him post. What I see ,especially in the Church of Satan is a lot of LaVey worship going on . Many people worship the man and fail to live or even see the Satanism. Most of these people will trade in the identity of Satanist for something else eventually. Like changing outta a trendy shirt they thought was cool at hot topic a year ago.
LaVey was the door man of modern Satanism. And I do not mean that in a derogatory manner. He was the one who opened the door for many of us to walk through. I seriously doubt he ever wanted people to imitate him. Or idolize him . I believe he wanted people to truly be individuals and use the foundations of Satanism to empower and improve their own lives.
I bet LaVey is turning in his grave at the state of Satanism today .
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