#40712 - 07/23/10 07:52 PM
Death Fetish
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Lamar
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Registered: 02/03/10
Posts: 226
Loc: Alabama
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I find myself contemplating heavily before I retire for the night, on dying and the process of dying. Sometimes I think so deeply into the matter that I have to force myself to stop and go to sleep, lest I be accompanied by dread and often terror. I wonder at night what it will feel like to lose consciousness and to breathe no more. It's frightening at times.
I wonder who will remember me after years have gone by and what I'll be remembered for.
Sometimes I contemplate the relationship between man's security and religion in regards to death. If you think about it, the common man needs religion (ie Christianity, Islam, Theism etc.) for security, as if to keep him calm when the thought of death comes, to make dying an easier process. As comforting as that old lie may be, the lie that says you will be reunited with family in the clouds, I find that for myself atleast that to die in self-deceit...I would not have been truly alive. If that makes sense.
I ponder time often and rythmn in regards to death. It's as though our very beating heart is drumming to death's rythmn - counting down through the "death beats" until you die. Depressing it can be to be reminded every second by your internal hour glass, of your coming death.
I find it hard to accept death.
Really, and I mean really, what would be the point to living for a short lifetime only to fade away forever? I'm not asking this question to any of you so don't feel like I'm asking you, I'm just trying to get you to think about it. I believe that we are all victims of chance. I'm not implying that we are victims of one another or carry a victim mentality, I am not a victim! But rather, a victim of birth,or chance in other words. Is it not by chance that we are here? I can't quite convey this to you in words that well. But I think that it is by chance that your individual consciousness came into being. Again I cannot convey this that well in my words. As long as people mate there will be offspring, I'm not calling that chance but rather your being alive and conscious.
I'm not sure if can understand what I'm trying to say in that last paragraph and sorry for the repetivity. I've been contemplating this for a while and thought I'd share. There was a lot more but we'd be here forever.
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#40715 - 07/23/10 08:13 PM
Re: Death Fetish
[Re: Lamar]
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6Satan6Archist6
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Registered: 10/16/08
Posts: 2233
Loc: Oregon
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I find it hard to accept death.
That's okay, you don't have to accept death as it will eventually take regardless of whether or not you accept. Though I must say that life, for me at least, has become more enjoyable since I came to terms with my inevitable demise some 9 years ago.
The point to living? There is none. The only point or meaning to life is that which the individual bestows upon it. Me, I am here to make the most of my time while I still have it. My life revolves around the never ending pursuit of pleasure and personal happiness by whatever means I deem necessary.
And to be technical, we are not here by chance. I am pretty sure Scientists have concluded that, through evolution, or existence was not mere chance, it is the opposite of chance, sooner or later the human race had to exist. Not due to the will of any creator but due to the circumstances that led to our existence in the first place.
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#40720 - 07/23/10 08:57 PM
Re: Death Fetish
[Re: Lamar]
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Asmedious
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Registered: 09/02/07
Posts: 973
Loc: New York
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Once you conquer your fear of the unknown, and that of ‘not being,’ death can be a fun and entertaining thing to think about.
I think that eternal unconsciousness is as similar to the brain, as the concept of infinity. We can talk, speculate and wonder about it, but I doubt that we can comprehend it. Our brains don’t have a reference point for either one.
Sometimes when my mind wanders, I think about what that moment when I die will be like. Will I know that it’s happening? Will it come at a time when I welcome the total relief of it, or will it come at one of those moments when I have something of great interest to look forward to, and will feel that I wish I had more time. Will it be sudden, like “OH SHIT!!,” and then nothing.
I also hope that it comes when there’s no one that I care about around to watch me go. I think that I would like to enjoy or at least experience the event without someone making it sad by their emotions.
Generally though, the way that I look at death, or non existence, is that it is the most natural state. Life is the totally weird and unnatural state. It’s not even equivalent to a flicker in time and space. Kind of like a tiny spark that interrupts non existence.
One of the best definitions of “life,” that I have ever heard was on one of those documentaries about the stars and planets. They were talking about how every part of us has come together from elements in space. The commentator said, “Life is the universe becoming conscious of its self.” I like that.
Who knows, once all of our physical elements have degenerated back into their basic parts, when the planet burns up and everything is blown out into space once more, at some eternal time in the future, perhaps a gazzillion years from now, after we journey through space as space dust and carbon, and become part of new stars and galaxies, and once they disintegrate and come together again, perhaps those elements will become conscious once more. That is the only way that I can relate to re-incarnation. But it’s not something that I am counting on. I came, I saw, I experienced, and then I’m done. Nothingness is fine, and when all is said and done, it is quite comforting too.
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"The most important right a government can provide for it's people, is the right to be left alone"
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#40737 - 07/24/10 03:10 AM
Re: Death Fetish
[Re: Miss May]
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The Zebu
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Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 1129
Loc: Orlando, FL
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When I was younger, lying alone at night, I would periodically become seized by intense terror and doubtfulness-- what if there was no life after death? What if there was nothing, no God, no heaven... just an obliteration of consciousness? Such episodes happened throughout my life, beginning at a very young age.
Yet it is amusing that these thoughts only ceased once I had abandoned supernatural belief altogether (contrary to the common claims that such beliefs alleviate the fear of death). I just learned to accept Death for the beautiful oblivion it embodies.
I suppose I am an avid believer in reincarnation; that is, if one considers the carbon cycle to count as reincarnation.
Also, I cannot help but feel a slight, smug sense of moral self-righteousness, knowing that my anti-afterlife is more "virtuous" than the vain, wish-fulfilling fantasies perpetuated by "believers" who claim to sacrifice themselves for their Deity, but in reality will simply stoop to any level of subservience so long as their shallow egos live on forever.
Thanatos, I suppose, is the ultimate deity.
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