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#4097 - 02/11/08 06:43 PM The Act of Trance
birdstrike Offline

Registered: 09/30/07
Posts: 59
Loc: Canada
Has anyone ascended to a certain level in trance where it becomes very difficult to remember the experience. You know that you experienced something yet have no idea what.

I have come out not remembering much yet crying uncontrollably. I have been driven into physical states of borderline paralysis or muscle contraction to the point of vomiting. Admittedly this is rare. in most cases I come out feeling relaxed and "balanced" if you will.

I sometimes write things after immediately coming out. They make so much sense when penned yet it is only later I fully realize how profound and abstract some of the ideas are.

Something else I have noticed in coming out. I seem to not quite fully exist in this reality for a while. Stairs don't creak under my feet. People bump into me like they don't see me (I'm 6'3 and 220lbs, I'm hard to miss). I have had this last up to a half hour after coming out of trance.

I am curious to hear from those of you who have had interesting trance experiences. I would especially like to hear from Mr. Octavius whom I know plays with sensory deprivation!
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#4307 - 02/18/08 02:49 AM Re: The Act of Trance [Re: birdstrike]
Chandler Offline

Registered: 08/30/07
Posts: 36
If you want to be able to remember the content of your trances, Aleister Crowley has methods for this in Book One ("Mysticism") of "Magick: Book 4".

His method is designed specifically for Mantra and Raja Yoga, which are both forms of concentrative meditation. Trance is a form of dispersive meditation. Dharana is an aggressive method of "holding on" while trance is a passive method of "letting go" (with some concentrative preliminaries, if you intend a specific sort of trance).

Crowley recommends keeping a notebook and pencil at your side while concentrating. This enables you to keep record of your errors and progress, to compare with your general advancement recorded in the Magickal Diary.

In the case of trance, start off with short trances, as short as you can reliably induce. If you know it takes you five to thirty minutes to enter into a trance, set the alarm clock for thirty minutes, and record in the notebook (a clipboard would be even better) exactly what you recall of your experience. If you recall nothing at all, record that. But record it. By remaining intent, this will gradually affect the nature of the impressions that you receive during trance, so that they translate more easily into ordinary consciousness.

This method also works for cultivating the lucidity of dreams, and eventually achieving astral projection.

The goal of trance should be to incorporate the senses accessible through trance into ordinary consciousness. If you are interacting with the astral/spirit/dream... world during trance but cannot remember what took place, this offers you no intentional benefit. This sort of trance might be compared to blacking out during a courtroom trial, or it might be nothing more important than waking up on New Year's Day wondering if you've cheated on your lover. We've sent monkeys into space too.

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