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#41884 - 08/13/10 04:49 AM Magnetic Storm
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#41886 - 08/13/10 05:44 AM Re: Magnetic Storm [Re: Diavolo]
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I have to say that it was interesting to watch. And have to give credit for the more or less correct representation of the atom.
But it simply smells too much of "doomday-scenario" and conclusions such as a "total collapse which will cause several years to be repaired/undone" are quite frankly based on quite some "if" cases.

For example: the "exploding" generators and electric components cannot be repaired for several years. I think it is but a matter of months, a generator can be made if loose unconnected parts are still available. Electric circuits can hardly have any damage if they are still in "construction" fase. Then there are the cases of electric components and hardware being protected against magnetic influences (which is the case in nuclear power plants and other vital industries).

Other things which are not included would be the ability for adaptation and construction within the human nature. Interesting video, but somewhat a dissapointment for not really adding/providing new information (at least in my case). Good enough for making people aware of the possible scenario and possible consequences.
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#41887 - 08/13/10 06:03 AM Re: Magnetic Storm [Re: Dimitri]
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Indeed, it is doomsday porn, something not uncommon on television and I don't expect any of those scenarios to happen any time soon but it shows that our modern civilization doesn't need that much to come to a halt, even if only temporarily. I wouldn't be too bothered about a three month power failure here; there are options enough to survive, but to major cities; something like three months can be lethal. But it would surely solve their rat and stray cat problem.

The more technological we become, the more vulnerable when losing that technology. Take the US army as an example. There is no doubt it is the most technological advanced army in the world but, as China knows very well, crippling it back to a WW2 status doesn't take much more than eliminating their satellites.

The same goes for our societies: while a shepherd in Afghanistan will barely feel the effects of modern technology being halted, in the civilized areas, people will drop like flies.

A lot of "ifs" for such a scenario to happen indeed but at least it should awaken us to the fact that life depending on food-chains for survival can have consequences.

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#41888 - 08/13/10 07:15 AM Re: Magnetic Storm [Re: Diavolo]
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The more technological we become, the more vulnerable when losing that technology. Take the US army as an example. There is no doubt it is the most technological advanced army in the world but, as China knows very well, crippling it back to a WW2 status doesn't take much more than eliminating their satellites.

I see the problem with modern technology being the energy-source causing the most troubles. All energy-sources which are used nowadays are limited toward carbon-based fuels and electricity. It is sufficient enough to destroy and/or block several gas/fuel distributators across the country to give a major blow to the economy. It is also sufficient enough to stuff a little plane (or other vehicle) full of explosives and ram it right into a powerplant. That very act can cause a whole city to fall on its knees.

The reason I am all-in for solar-powered cars (and systems), machines working on bio-fuels or hydrogen isn't primarly for the fact they are more "ecological", but for the reason that there are more energy-sources to be tapped from making a total break-down less hard/likely.

I'd even like to compare current technological advancements/level with internet connections. As I see it, our technology is like an internet connection whereto many different computers are linked towards 1 giant server who does all the processings and calling/sending the right information towards the right computer. It is in my opinion a very bad situation, 1 major fault and the whole network collapses. The level I would like to see could be compared towards peer-to-peer networking. It is considered that every computer is a stand-alone machine which itself does processing and calling/sending of the information towards the right user. It prevents the situation of "1 down, everything else down".

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A lot of "ifs" for such a scenario to happen indeed but at least it should awaken us to the fact that life depending on food-chains for survival can have consequences.

Amen.


Edited by Dimitri (08/13/10 07:16 AM)
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