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#42138 - 08/20/10 11:12 PM Amityville Horror house "tag sale"
ta2zz ta2zz veteran member Registered: 08/28/07 Posts: 1413 Loc: Connecticut	Tag sale at 'Amityville Horror' house (08/20/10) AMITYVILLE - It's known as a house of horrors, but it's actually filled with some first-class furniture. The Dutch Colonial at 108 Ocean Ave. in Amityville is holding a tag sale tomorrow. The goods up for grabs at the Amityville Horror house include a piano, a chandelier, a wide selection of furniture and rugs, and a kayak. Cell phones, cameras and minors will not be permitted inside the house. The sale is from 9:55 a.m. to 4:55 p.m. The house was made infamous in the 1970s when a young man killed his six family members there. It later became the subject of a series of horror books and films. -------------------------------------------------------------- So much for changing the address to keep away the curious. I almost cannot understand why this is news. Well at least it seems like it is only local news. The house is also for sale in the 1.4 million area from a quick scan of a few headlines. ~T~ _________________________ We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams. ~Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy
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#42148 - 08/21/10 02:23 AM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: ta2zz]
6Satan6Archist6 6Satan6Archist6 senior member Registered: 10/16/08 Posts: 2233 Loc: Oregon	I'm pretty sure that the stuff they are selling is going to be really expensive and I doubt that any of it actually belonged to the DeFeos. Even still I think it would be cool to own something from that house; perhaps a window or something like that. I really wouldn't consider this to be news either. It is more like an advertisement than anything. _________________________ Ultimate Satanic Bad Ass of Ultimate Satanic Bad Assery PhD Esq. LLC Inc.^∞ DCLXVI°
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#42169 - 08/21/10 01:07 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
ta2zz ta2zz veteran member Registered: 08/28/07 Posts: 1413 Loc: Connecticut	Oh my I forgot this link http://www.amitygalleries.com/_img/108Amityville/index.html That at least lets you see some of the antiques they were selling. I assume most were items owned by the latest resident. Those evil shaped windows would be nice but from my understanding their real value would truly be as a collectible movie prop. ~T~ _________________________ We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams. ~Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy
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#42191 - 08/21/10 03:59 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: ta2zz]
Fnord Fnord active member Registered: 01/11/10 Posts: 718 Loc: Texas	Well, if nothing else this bolsters the idea that real estate is a solid investment... even real estate with a storied past. Lutz reportedly bought the house for around 80k. After a small succession of residents, Brian Wilson (no, not THAT Brian Wilson.. the current owner) bought the place for somewhere around 300k. If it it brings in a million plus these days then it has at least quintupled its value over the years (allowing for inflation). All that aside, I wish I could just walk through it. :0) _________________________ Scratching Peace Symbols on Your Tombstone
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#42192 - 08/21/10 04:00 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: ta2zz]
Knievel74 Knievel74 member Registered: 05/18/10 Posts: 104 Loc: NY	If anyone's planning to stop by, you might be dissapointed. The facade of the house has been completely redesigned. The owner's did it years ago to stop people from gawking. So, no more spooky windows, lol _________________________ "Man was meant to live, not just to exist". - Evel Knievel
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#42193 - 08/21/10 05:13 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Knievel74]
Asmedious Asmedious Moderator active member Registered: 09/02/07 Posts: 973 Loc: New York	Eh, personally I would rather have something from the Manson family. (Charles, not Marylin). I actually own a piece of stone that supposedly came from Sharon Tates fire place. Or maybe a pot holder from Dalmer's kitchen. I also own the lid from Elvis's toilet. Yeah, I'm weird and like fucked up artifacts. Nah, just kidding about Elvis' toilet, but that would be cool. _________________________ "The most important right a government can provide for it's people, is the right to be left alone"
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#42202 - 08/21/10 08:05 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Asmedious]
Lucifer Rising Lucifer Rising member Registered: 04/10/10 Posts: 147 Loc: Indianapolis, IN	I have to somewhat admire that guy. Just because he's the guy that lives there, completely unafraid of demonic possession. Somewhat sets him apart from the average person. I wonder if he ever watches horror movies about his house, in his house. That's what I really want to do, go over there and watch Amityville Horror in the Amityville house. He could probably make a killing renting out his living room without changing anything except maybe a big flat screen TV and surround sound, which he might already have. You could probably charge $2000 and you'd still have somebody come through about once a month to watch the movie in the house. _________________________ Even if you're the ultimate evil lord of the underworld, you should always be yourself. Mickey Mouse
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#42214 - 08/22/10 07:38 AM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Lucifer Rising]
felixgarnet felixgarnet active member Registered: 10/17/09 Posts: 620 Loc: UK	Good idea there, Lucifer Rising! I wouldn't want to live in a house where such a horrible murder had been committed, though. The demonic possession nonsense wouldn't bother me but I'd feel sorry for the Lutz family all the time and remembering what happened would creep me out. I'd rent the house where "The Exorcist" was made, though! $\:D$ Edited by felixgarnet (08/22/10 07:39 AM) Edit Reason: For typing 2 instead of " so it looked like I liked "Exorcist 2", which was rubbish. _________________________ "Here's to Artifice!" - Anton Szandor LaVey.
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#42245 - 08/22/10 07:44 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: felixgarnet]
ta2zz ta2zz veteran member Registered: 08/28/07 Posts: 1413 Loc: Connecticut	Hi Felix... So you would feel sorry for people you never met for things totally out of your control? I know its soooooo off topic but if the moderators do not mind fuck everybody else. ~T~ _________________________ We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams. ~Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy
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#42248 - 08/22/10 09:02 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: ta2zz]
felixgarnet felixgarnet active member Registered: 10/17/09 Posts: 620 Loc: UK	Yes. It saddens me to think that children were shot dead while they slept. _________________________ "Here's to Artifice!" - Anton Szandor LaVey.
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#42301 - 08/23/10 01:52 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: felixgarnet]
ta2zz ta2zz veteran member Registered: 08/28/07 Posts: 1413 Loc: Connecticut	Hopefully not too much. The DeFeo family murders took place 36 years ago in 1974. At least a single gunshot wound was quick. There are far worse deaths that children face every day. It would be quite crushing to feel for them all. ~T~ _________________________ We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams. ~Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy
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#42364 - 08/24/10 05:41 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: ta2zz]
Knievel74 Knievel74 member Registered: 05/18/10 Posts: 104 Loc: NY	I find it funny that since the Lutz family moved out, there hasn't been any further supernatural incidents reported. Which means, in my opinion, the Lutz family was full of shit. It's been over 30 years and absolutely nothing has ever been reported since. All they did was try to capitalize on the DeFeo tragedy. _________________________ "Man was meant to live, not just to exist". - Evel Knievel
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#42433 - 08/25/10 02:04 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Knievel74]
Fnord Fnord active member Registered: 01/11/10 Posts: 718 Loc: Texas	I'm still not sold on the idea that they did it for the money... too much doesn't add up. I was absolutely obsessed at one time with researching this case. Traded emails with Lutz and DeFeo's wife as well as with Rick Moran and Ric Osuna. There's a LOT to the story. _________________________ Scratching Peace Symbols on Your Tombstone
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#42434 - 08/25/10 02:13 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Fnord]
6Satan6Archist6 6Satan6Archist6 senior member Registered: 10/16/08 Posts: 2233 Loc: Oregon	The DeFeo incident was definitely an odd one considering that all the victims were found in their beds and the gun used, a Marlin .35, is not quiet. The first shot should have awakened the rest of the family members. I'm not saying that I think anything supernatural was at work but the circumstances are quite odd. _________________________ Ultimate Satanic Bad Ass of Ultimate Satanic Bad Assery PhD Esq. LLC Inc.^∞ DCLXVI°
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#42435 - 08/25/10 02:20 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
Fnord Fnord active member Registered: 01/11/10 Posts: 718 Loc: Texas	In bed, face down. The witness testimony is even more puzzling... as is the unburned gunpowder on the now missing nightshirt. There are lots of theories around what actually happened, but fewer explanations. _________________________ Scratching Peace Symbols on Your Tombstone
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#42436 - 08/25/10 02:24 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Fnord]
6Satan6Archist6 6Satan6Archist6 senior member Registered: 10/16/08 Posts: 2233 Loc: Oregon	Well it would be easy to prove if there was more than one shooter. All they would have to do is check the ballistics. Of course, that only works if they still have the slugs. _________________________ Ultimate Satanic Bad Ass of Ultimate Satanic Bad Assery PhD Esq. LLC Inc.^∞ DCLXVI°
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#42437 - 08/25/10 02:27 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
Fnord Fnord active member Registered: 01/11/10 Posts: 718 Loc: Texas	Not necessarily two shooters... All that Weber asserts is that Defeo couldn't have acted alone. All of the bullets did come from the Marlin. By the by, Howard Adelman, the M.E. also had issues with the official story (as did others involved). _________________________ Scratching Peace Symbols on Your Tombstone
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#42438 - 08/25/10 02:34 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Fnord]
6Satan6Archist6 6Satan6Archist6 senior member Registered: 10/16/08 Posts: 2233 Loc: Oregon	I suppose he could have had someone tie them down before he shot them but as far as I know none of the victims had ligature marks consistent with someone who had been bound. Not exactly sure how else multiple people could be involved and still have only one shooter. I'm also not very familiar with much of the specifics of this case. I do know of the gunpowder that was found on Dawn's nightgown though. _________________________ Ultimate Satanic Bad Ass of Ultimate Satanic Bad Assery PhD Esq. LLC Inc.^∞ DCLXVI°
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#42439 - 08/25/10 02:43 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
Fnord Fnord active member Registered: 01/11/10 Posts: 718 Loc: Texas	Unburned or blow back gunpowder according to some.. which would indicate she fired a weapon. Of course with no nightgown available it's impossible to test this. As for tying down... perhaps someone known who could calm the kids down? _________________________ Scratching Peace Symbols on Your Tombstone
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#42442 - 08/25/10 03:01 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Fnord]
6Satan6Archist6 6Satan6Archist6 senior member Registered: 10/16/08 Posts: 2233 Loc: Oregon	This is probably just another one of those things where the truth has been buried so deep that the chances of it surfacing are not great at all. _________________________ Ultimate Satanic Bad Ass of Ultimate Satanic Bad Assery PhD Esq. LLC Inc.^∞ DCLXVI°
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#42463 - 08/25/10 05:23 PM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Fnord]
Knievel74 Knievel74 member Registered: 05/18/10 Posts: 104 Loc: NY	Originally Posted By: Fnord I'm still not sold on the idea that they did it for the money... too much doesn't add up. I was absolutely obsessed at one time with researching this case. Traded emails with Lutz and DeFeo's wife as well as with Rick Moran and Ric Osuna. There's a LOT to the story. I was going to suggest that the Lutz's could have believed in the supernatural. That could explain it. They move into a house where a horrible crime took place not too long ago. That would freak almost anybody out. And let's remember that the Satanic "movement" was in full swing in the early 1970's. The CoS was at full strength until '75 with covens all around the country, including NY. And the movie The Exorcist was still being talked about during that decade with reports of demonic possession in the news. I'll be open to that. _________________________ "Man was meant to live, not just to exist". - Evel Knievel
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#42501 - 08/26/10 10:26 AM Re: Amityville Horror house "tag sale" [Re: Knievel74]
Fnord Fnord active member Registered: 01/11/10 Posts: 718 Loc: Texas	We have an accord with regard to the Lutzes then. I think that initially they had no plan to do anything but move into the house and live their lives. The money and the risk for the other side of the argument are too weighted one way for it to be true unless Lutz was plain stupid and I don't think he was. I do think that once it was all said and done he did embellish his story a bit (nothing in comparison to what the book and movie did) and move toward making a profit from it (since he lost his business and was getting a lot of attention). That no one else experienced anything there isn't bothersome to me and it doesn't indicate to me that the Lutzes lied about their experiences. Lutzes story is actually quite tame compared to what the media and the book and movie made of it. _________________________ Scratching Peace Symbols on Your Tombstone
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