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#4238 - 02/14/08 07:25 PM Might is Right
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Hey All,

Yesterday reading one of Fists posts got me to thinking about the might is right concept and how it pertains to the islam/west conflict.

Now I have yet to have to opportunity to read the book, so I will openly admit that I may be very ignorant of the true meaning behind it. Actually if anyone knows where I can get a PDF copy, or pick up a relatively cheapish copy, I would be interested in reading it. It just hasn't come across my path at this point in time, anyway I digress.

From what I gather are the basic principles, the strongest or most powerful wins, I'm thinking that this would mean that not only has Islam got every right to want to kill/maim/hurt and destroy the wetern world, but it shows that they have the might is right mentality as a people. Therefore Fist, you must admire them in some way, even if you want to prove that they are not the stronger sect and that in fact democracy and freedom are going to kick their asses into oblivion.

Wanting over power. We want them to fuck off and leave us alone, but we need to get the power to MAKE them fuck off and leave us alone. Trouble is, short of genecide how can one gain power over a people that beleive in an all powerfull diety that they will lay their lives and that of many others on the line for?

So if might is right, then this conflict or war between the east and the west will never be settled until one or the other is totally destroyed.

Please please let me know what you all think (especially you Fist) as I have spent quite a bit of time pondering this thought since it addled my brain yesterday.

I'm not saying might is not right, so please don't think I am, this is a genuine interest in a discussion. I don't actually remember reading about it on the last site, although fuck knows I could be wrong about THAT too.

Zeph
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#4244 - 02/14/08 09:05 PM Re: Might is Right [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Hi Zeph;

If I may give my opinions at certain risk and peril.

Might is definitely Right, but only in a short term way, and it produces more negative side affects. Might only seems right at first, but Nature favors the most industrious, cooperative, and symbiotic. Most animals that may be considered Mighty are either extinct or endangered. Ants have been around for a very long time. They may not look mighty, but they make up 1/4th of the earth's biomass.

As far as the middle east deal - in the end the winner will be the one who is most collective. We (USA) are only united in word. We're divided as to how to deal with this issue. The Republicans want war, the Democrats want to pull out; and much of the world doesn't seem to like us much for the Iraq deal.

Then we have "Them." They really hate our guts for sticking our noses into their business since the crusades. They are governed by these religious leaders who can collect their followers into a cohesive unit of hatred - enough to influence individual to strap bombs on themselves and blow themselves up - by twisting the Quran...

Might really isn't always the most intelligent and Reasonable way to deal with problems that effects such a vast number of people. This is just my opinion.
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#4339 - 02/19/08 05:56 PM Re: Might is Right [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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Instinctually, I tend to agree with you. I thought there might be a little more interest in this discussion, but apparently this is either a rehash or a boring subject. Who'd have thought?

ZG
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#4347 - 02/19/08 09:41 PM Re: Might is Right [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Actually you have sent me on a hunt for this book... I am interested in why this book seems to be so unavailable... Yet so many different versions seem to be out there...

Ah just checked looks like a new reprinting is available on amazon but it says it is only 96 pages long... Others say around 100 more pages...

I am perplexed so I still hunt...

The copy that I consider collectible would be the one with a forward from Anton LaVey... Good luck finding that... There are a few university libraries in NY that have older copies but that doesn't help me right now...

Somebody needs to release this one to the wild in pdf format... Not that I condone illegal activity...

Hence my silence... Better silent than to vomit random thoughts just on the title or what little I know of this book from LaVeys plagiarisms in The Satanic Bible...

~T~


Edited by ta2zz (02/19/08 09:45 PM)
Edit Reason: Added vomit comment...
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#4365 - 02/20/08 09:05 AM Re: Might is Right [Re: ta2zz]
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I found a reprint which is 185 pages long. It doesn't say anything about the foreword by LaVey so probably it doesn't have one.
Product info says:

A reprint of the 1910 classic, which questions all the moral and ethical foundations of society, and argues that, behind genteel myths, force is the only reality. Even if you don't agree with the basic tenets of this book, you will have to think why you believe as you do.

It's not even very expensive, don't have time nor enthusiasm to convert, but it's 24,50 in euros. Guess it would be worth the read at least.

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#4432 - 02/21/08 07:35 PM Re: Might is Right [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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http://www.dilpicklepress.com/index.php

...From the original Dill Pickle Club of anarchists, socialists, and other assorted anti-establishment bomb throwers of the early 20th Century.

Google it.

In historic editions, page length may vary due to print size and extra editorial verbosity to justify a new copyright. At some point, I will head down to the Library of Congress and scan whatever original volumes I can find. The original copy right has long since expired.

Fear not. I will provide my other thoughts soon enough.
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#4454 - 02/22/08 10:09 AM Re: Might is Right [Re: Fist]
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http://books.google.ca/books?id=HioKA46b...umbnail#PPP1,M1 granted its missing pages but this seems to be the best version on the net i have found.enjoy
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#4491 - 02/24/08 06:18 AM Re: Might is Right [Re: rob_church]
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 Quote:
Trouble is, short of genecide how can one gain power over a people that beleive in an all powerfull diety that they will lay their lives and that of many others on the line for?

Normally, "the power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it." That statement implies physicality, but as you pointed out, physical destruction means very little to an extremist who has a bomb strapped to his chest. They have to be threatened with something that will be much more frightening to them: the destruction of their so-called "souls."

Couldn't the East could easily be overpowered by the might of Wal-Mart and cable television? Imagine how much damage they would sustain (as a people) if their countries were force-flooded with dirty magazines, erotica and advertising, for the next ten years. Would their own primal desires tear them apart from the inside out?

That's really part of the West's economic "might" if you think about it; there are millions of individuals who all work to churn out an endless supply of consumer-feed, and reinforce our animal-need for instant gratification. The East doesn't have the might to defeat the West in a war where temptation and "sin" become the weapons of choice. It would destroy their cultural identity, ultimately "righting" the East by forcefully synchronizing its morale compass with the West's (which you could argue is quite Satanic in nature, even though many Westerners will lie through their teeth that it's not).
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#5722 - 03/15/08 11:30 AM Re: Might is Right [Re: Jeseth]
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I do have the book in question, but it has been a while since I read it.Might is Right is nothing new.Its somewhat Viking like and also reminds me of Neitchze. (SP?)It is how the ancient world lived until modern day, Enlightenment derived philosophies gave birth to classical liberalism and humanism which in turn gave birth to its bastardized and defective offspring called equality.I think modern day egalitarian philosophies, such as what reigns supreme in the western world, actually negate evolution in that the health and elite are taxed to support the offspring of the defective and the parasitical.When is the last time you have been to a Wal Mart, or Waffle House, and gazed at all the poor genetic stock, which is in the majority? The whole progressive income tax structure is designed to take from the productive and give to the parasitical.
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#8802 - 05/18/08 06:23 PM Re: Might is Right [Re: Samuel Hain]
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Hmmm........... once again lots of basic observations?
The Western world runs on the capitalist system, which pretty much echoes the 'might is right' anthem. There is nothing egalitarian about western civilisation, only euphemistic slogans that basically say 'f@#k you I'm OK'. Unfortunately amongst the satanic creed are those that are misanthromorphs, and those that are Satanists because they see the human beast as something worth preserving. Misanthromorphs are just christians, jews and muslims that go by another name. For it is those of the RHP that detest and deny what humanity truly is. Humanity is an organism, made of both inferior and superior genetic stock. From our gene pool some will expound upon the secrets of the universe and some will tile toilet floors. However, all are necessary as far as the organismís survival.

Hmmmm...... we are not very good observers of nature anymore are we?
As for Islam is concerned, it is enjoying success because the peoples of the countries were an extremist brand is popular need it at present. Humans are incredibly opportunistic, once Islam fulfils their need it will be dumped like hot rocks, like it has been in many countries. On the flip side christianity is more popular than ever in the U.S. because (not unlike their crazy muslim counterparts) it is also giving their 'might' a 'right' so to speak.
Ahhh we should rejoice in the fact that we are happy with the truth of our animal existence. We should also be weary of the insidious nature of the deluded RHP followers that would seek to destroy humanity for their god.

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#8886 - 05/22/08 06:28 AM Re: Might is Right [Re: Zakary]
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Praise foe Zakary!

"Hail Satan."

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#8900 - 05/22/08 05:11 PM Re: Might is Right [Re: Isaak w shipley]
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 Originally Posted By: Isaak w shipley
Praise foe Zakary!

"Hail Satan."

So many say to take your disagreements to a Private message without realizing disagreement is the beginnings of debate... If you dislike something then use all of your will to explain what you dislike on the other hand if you enjoy something then you should use the same amount of energy to praise them...

I myself think this 5 word praise is the prime example of what should be taken to a PM...

~T~

I might be right... ;\)
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#8906 - 05/22/08 06:46 PM Re: Might is Right [Re: ta2zz]
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To Explain Ta2zz,I also think the western world does reali
on the Quote "Beast" The system it has created to keep everything in line.Capitolized systems "Rule" the thing is that it does nothing to keep things in-line.In other systems like Islam and 3 World,Red Russia,Which my dirty Blood drinking
Disorder comes from called "Hemophilla"Which was start inside royality inside The Russian Royal Family,Why? Inbreeding,like Hitler they also thought keeping blood-line pure by "Keeping It
in the family"You know!The Poison disorder comes from Queen
Victora herself which was the Carrier.Women are carriers,but men
get the disorder because it skips generations,for Instance"A women carries,has a boy and he has Hemophilla,but if he marries and has a boy,he will not more than likely have it on the other coin,if a girl,she will carry to the Grandson.My synthetic blood is grown in California,Animal protien,or Rodent "Blood" "Plasma"
I am A spokesman for the "Beast'or the Capitolized system.They reali on feeding me because I feed the system.In 3world Countries
The system is simple Weak die ,Strong Survive.Steal,cut of the hand,Lie,Cut out the tounge.Kill and Be Crucified upside down for your Felony.Here you get to go inside the belly of luxury and get feed well and Drugs,Sex,Rock n Roll.Most that I have spoken with rather stay in Fed Prison because they live like kings off our Tax Dollars.This pisses me off.I say Crucify,Cricify,or Be-Head,Be-head,Get them out of the way and make our tax money more useful to the people who are hard workers
I praise Zackery for his intellect,and His bold speaking about the Capitolized System or "The Beast" as I say.Who Has marked me with the stamp of Biohazard.I will keep you alive with Blood Product because we make Billons off your Suffering,and you get to
Take Morpheous and have pretty Mutilated flesh from Pretty Pins N Needles.My Sickness floats the Economy,Hell yes I am a Spokesman for my BloodBrotherhood or BloodNation.Look us up in a
Stamp near you.Coming Soon...

"The Drugs are Made in California
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#8908 - 05/22/08 07:29 PM Re: Might is Right [Re: Isaak w shipley]
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 Quote:
Which my dirty Blood drinking
Disorder comes from called "Hemophilla"Which was start inside royality inside The Russian Royal Family,Why?


Actually I think you'll find that it was around well before the Russian Tsars with history dating it back to Jewish laws that stated that a boy need not be circumsized if he had two brothers die of bleeding before his birth.

Also, "Haemophilia in European royalty featured prominently and thus is sometimes known as "the royal disease". Queen Victoria passed the mutation to her son Leopold and, through several of her daughters, to various royals across the continent, including the royal families of Spain, Germany, and Russia. Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich, son of Nicholas II, was a descendant of Queen Victoria and suffered from hemophilia. "

Sorry to burst your Russian bubble there buddy.

Zeph
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#8909 - 05/22/08 07:49 PM Re: Might is Right [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Thank you for the POp! I am glad you are even speaking about this subject to me.I am glad you added more knowlege
to the topic,which where I live is not disscussed,because of Taboos.They think I am of the devil,like I chose this path of pain.Thank you for your support.Thank you for more knowlege.
Thank you for being a giver not a taker.
Thank you Girl.
It really means everything to me
for you to give so I could Recieve.
Thank you...

"Feeling less Aleinated"
"Thank you Girl."

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