#42682 - 08/31/10 09:56 AM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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Fnord
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Some of that stuff was pretty funny. Indignant people, and especially indignant christians, are almost always good for a laugh.
The one lady who claimed to be running for public office and then started typing in tongues was the best (see below). I almost want to engage this lunatic and see if I can make her froth from the mouth.
Also, I see the C/S made an official appearance on the discussion via Rev. Strongbone (uvray).
SallyKern:
I feel the spirit upon me. Praise you praise you praise meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho
SallyKern
momwitchypoo you don't seem to be the most informed person out there, so it's sad you're homeschooling a child. Since you posted your filth and the flies lies 257 reprobates have split Satan's house wide open for doing the same thing you teach that lost child. Vote Sally Kern House District 84 - I will save you from Satan!
HAHAHA!
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#42692 - 08/31/10 09:58 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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Duende
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I am interested in seeing the outcome of this event. "Reverend" Hale seems to be presenting the "exorcism" as harmless, and as long as it is seen as some form of entertainment, those against it will probably not be able to stop it. It looks like a good publicity stunt.
Here is their meetup site with more event information,
http://www.meetup.com/Ok-ahoma-Satanist/
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#42713 - 09/01/10 02:53 AM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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Knievel74
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I can't understand why they would want to perform a ritual with such a large group of people; presumably most of which do not know each other.
According to the "Reverend" he wants the community (made up of mostly Christians) to see that there's nothing to fear about the rituals in Satanism.
After checking out their website I hope the exorcism is a little more organized, lol
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#42716 - 09/01/10 12:39 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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6Satan6Archist6
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According to the "Reverend" he wants the community (made up of mostly Christians) to see that there's nothing to fear about the rituals in Satanism.
That's stupid. I'd prefer that people did fear them.
"Give me $1000.00 or I am going to do a ritual and curse your children to turn gay."
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#42725 - 09/02/10 09:43 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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Myrddin Derwydd
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#42736 - 09/03/10 04:31 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
[Re: Fnord]
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Myrddin Derwydd
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Sally Kern is a State Representative in Oklahoma. Here are some links regarding information about her. The last one is interesting because she is running against a transgendered opponent.
http://www.okhouse.gov/committees/member.aspx?memberid=87
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Kern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBmCA4z8Yzc
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/10/sally-kern-antigay-oklaho_n_607487.html
SallyKern:
I feel the spirit upon me. Praise you praise you praise meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho meka leka hi meka hiene ho, meka leka hi meka johnny ho
SallyKern
momwitchypoo you don't seem to be the most informed person out there, so it's sad you're homeschooling a child. Since you posted your filth and the flies lies 257 reprobates have split Satan's house wide open for doing the same thing you teach that lost child. Vote Sally Kern House District 84 - I will save you from Satan!
Kind regards...
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#43057 - 09/16/10 05:45 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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Duende
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Thanks for posting that, it was hilarious. The picture of the "Dark Overlord" beside his "alter ego" is priceless. I particularly liked the reader response that he looks better with his mask on.  I guess it can only continue to go downhill for the event from here.
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#43060 - 09/16/10 07:00 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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Duende
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Oh wait, you must click on the slide show to see the Dark Overlord's sinister tattoos! 
He even has an image of Anton LaVey tattooed on his arm! 
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#44047 - 11/08/10 04:02 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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ta2zz
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Actually I do find this interesting. A small group of people in central Oklahoma discover one another, then formally organize a Satanic religion, kick out a discovered sex offender then reorganize under a new name then hold a public ritual while a counter group files with the city to protest outside the Civic Center while the event is going on inside the Center.
Wow not that I’m an English major but run on sentence much?  Let’s take this bit-by-bit, people meet decide they are equals and their views and goals are similar and form a satanic group in Oklahoma. I’m betting this happens quite a bit actually. They discover a sex offender in their midst and kick him out. I suspect they did this to not tarnish their name (or that of Satan) yet they then go on to change their groups name… Was it because of this?
They then decide to exercise their right to rent a major civic center in the name of Satan and a Christian group legally filed to protest with the town. Either they are stupid and couldn’t see that coming or this was clearly their agenda. Hopefully their goal was more than just to rile the Christians. That is so Satanism 101 and very childish.
What exactly about any of this interests you again?
Is this the next trend in LHP and Satanic religions? I'm not sure how many actual formalized groups exist. Do you know of others that have filed for tax-exempt status? I'm not saying all that they have done I agree with but I do find their activities interesting.
I have heard one other Satanic organization claim tax-exempt status. My question is why would the elite worry about paying tax, isn’t that what my accountant is for? Tax-exempt status is so much like welfare for those who do not truly need it.
It turns out that one of the participants was arrested for heckling the Christian protesters. The suspect is 19 years old according to the Police Blotter dated October 22. This person also has the same first name as one of the people mentioned elsewhere regarding this group but I can't confirm if it's the same person at this time and I'm not offering his name in this forum. The Police indicate this person was asked to cease the behavior but did not so an arrest occurred.
So you are not offering his name here in fear of disclosing him to Satanists or those that oppose, yet you post a link to his arrest? You insult my intelligence.
The only 19 yr old arrested on that blotter was booked for assault and battery with a dangerous weapon. Serves him right I suppose. I guess the video would show, what no video is this 1970? Was this planned and well thought out or simply done for shock value?
There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with protesters, remember they have rules to follow as well. Satanists should be smart enough to control their emotions and also learn these rules. Short lived is the man who stumbles blindly into a dark cave with no light and no plan.
Without knowing any of them this whole thing screams poser to me. I suspect there is one Satanist and quite a few dregs willing to follow as long as they are accepted.
There is a lot to be said for being a behind the scenes occultist but there may also be value in being more above board so I look forward to seeing what happens to this group.
I wouldn’t hold my breath expecting much but more “look at us” spectacles. Remember by its very definition, once something is understood it is no longer occult.
The more you try to explain yourself to the lessers and nons, the smaller you become.
What do you think regarding being associated with a formalized Satanic group? Good idea or not, why?
A group formalized or not would have to share a common goal to even interest my joining. There would also have to be a definitive benefit for my membership.
I would also have to be the leader that’s just how it is, as I don’t follow very well.
Enjoy 
~T~
Pssttt this forum is probably considered a formalized group by some and they already more than likely know who you are.
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#44051 - 11/08/10 09:53 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
[Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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ta2zz
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I signed the last reply Devils Advocate for a reason. I find it funny in a sad way that those taking the name of ultimate evil so shy away from it once they are faced with the reality of it all.
I see nothing hypocritical about condemning someone for doing something that I do not agree with.
Me either really… I was mostly talking about Satanic organizations and how fast they try to pull away from anything not accepted by society, but I guess if the shoe fits eh?
Condemning someone over a state imposed title without any added information or making your own judgment is like thinking prison is a vacation due to one TV show. A Satanist or anyone claiming intelligence should question everything put before them. Then draw their own conclusions to base their actions on.
This is only my opinion of course.
I don't care if they are simply pursuing their interests.
As they would care nothing of your opinion on the matter I would imagine.
It's not about not wanting to look "bad" or "evil" to anyone but about my opinion. My opinion being the only one that matters to me in a such a situation.
Cool if we were in a situation then your judgment would come into the equation, but we are really just thinking out loud on a forum.
I think it is all about looking tough getting your testosterone flowing and thinking what you would do to this unnamed sex offender or what you think they should have done. So with all this talk about your opinion I ask is your opinion on this truly yours or simply what you have been programmed into believing is true and just?
I myself hold more ill will towards someone driving stupid around me than towards anyone who has ever crossed the line society has drawn in the sand.
Unless that line is crossed with you or yours should a Satanist really give a fuck?
~T~
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#44052 - 11/08/10 11:20 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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6Satan6Archist6
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Somehow I missed the part where you signed your post with that. I'm not saying it isn't there, it is, I'm just admitting my oversight.
Condemning someone over a state imposed title without any added information or making your own judgment is like thinking prison is a vacation due to one TV show. A Satanist or anyone claiming intelligence should question everything put before them. Then draw their own conclusions to base their actions on.
This is all very true. And I suppose it is possible that person was unlucky enough tho earn their title via dating a 17 y/o when they were 18-19 but that thought hadn't originally crossed my mind.
So with all this talk about your opinion I ask is your opinion on this truly yours or simply what you have been programmed into believing is true and just?
No, this is very much my opinion. Just because it is a popular one does not mean that I was "programmed" to believe it or that I don't truly believe it.
Unless that line is crossed with you or yours should a Satanist really give a fuck?
What I should do as a Satanist, student, brother, roommate or as any other thing I can be called is what I decide. A lot of things don't bother me unless I am directly affected. Even still there are things that bother even if I am not directly affected.
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#44071 - 11/10/10 03:59 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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Dimitri
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These fools (who make the rods for their own back) have next to no understanding of Satanism as something greater and darker than a juvenile, angst-ridden attention seeking device and have absolutely no understanding of magic.
It's quite odd, they exactly are saying the same about you when confronting them. The philosophy you have chosen is one of great conflict and tremendous confrontation. I might even think some are having trouble wearing the label by underestimating the weight the label has, let alone having the proper mindset from my point of view.
I personally see no problem calling yourself a Satanist as long as you are capable of holding your horses together and have a near perfect history of good, respectfull and honest behavior spiced up with a great deal of codes of honour and a will and mindset in order to progress your social status and life-style.
Edited by Dimitri (11/10/10 04:01 PM)
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#44089 - 11/12/10 07:06 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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Myrddin Derwydd
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"ta2zz"
"The only 19 yr old arrested on that blotter was booked for assault and battery with a dangerous weapon."
And though I neither defend this person nor detract from them the truth is that this information is inaccurate. Assault and battery is not associated with the individual accused of this misdemeanor.
This then brings up the situation regarding trespassing. Were you to trespass on public property (is that possible) can/should you be arrested for doing that? May the public step foot on public property yet be arrested for trespassing on same grounds simply due to an officer making a decision to favor the public [majority] over a specific minority [Satanism]? (In this case a lawfully recognized religious group.)
Suppose the real issue is FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Can I speak my will, in public, against a majority view, without expectation of harassment by the Police? Did the Police violate the right of the public here or did they enforce trespassing laws regarding the public being on public property?
Free speech or trespassing on the public. How would a Judge assess this measure?
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#44090 - 11/12/10 11:22 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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ta2zz
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And though I neither defend this person nor detract from them the truth is that this information is inaccurate. Assault and battery is not associated with the individual accused of this misdemeanor.
So either your linked information was wrong or you are full of it either way doesn’t matter very much. Ignorance to the law will not favor in your defense.
This then brings up the situation regarding trespassing. Were you to trespass on public property (is that possible) can/should you be arrested for doing that? May the public step foot on public property yet be arrested for trespassing on same grounds simply due to an officer making a decision to favor the public [majority] over a specific minority [ Satanism]? ( In this case a lawfully recognized religious group.)
Sounds like those flying the Satanism banner expected fair treatment from the average sheep do I need to point out how ignorant this is? Yes schools, libraries and parks are public property yet you can be arrested for trespassing there after hours. Again these things should have been thought out and seriously a lawyer should have been retained with such an undertaking. Before any of this happened the laws should have been defined.
Suppose the real issue is FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Can I speak my will, in public, against a majority view, without expectation of harassment by the Police? Did the Police violate the right of the public here or did they enforce trespassing laws regarding the public being on public property?
There are laws governing freedom of speech, as there are laws to follow when protesting. Remember while you are free to say anything you want, this doesn’t give you the right to say or do anything you like without fear of repercussions. The real issue is ignorance of the law, ignorance to human nature and just plain ignorance. If a cop tells you to stop something and you continue it thinking you know it all well, guess what shit happens.
Help yourself or your friend out and hire him a lawyer “now” as trying to fight this on your own will probably not go very well.
Free speech or trespassing on the public. How would a Judge assess this measure?
Guess this kid will find out eh? Again my suggestion retain a lawyer ask these questions to him. Otherwise this rant of yours screams only of ignorance to reality.
Similar stories this guy fights for GOD. http://www.the600club.com/dir/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/36237/#Post36237
This video might be of interest as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ283ZkzycY
Long video but very informative. http://www.youtube.com/user/XENUTV?blend=2&ob=1#p/u/69/8QGDxnrYqKg
Ignorance and Satanism are like oil and water.
Have a nice day
~T~
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#48015 - 02/03/11 11:35 PM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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The Zebu
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Thanks for the video link.
It looks like your average group that managed to get some publicity and take advantage of it. The guy wasn't phenomenally articulate and his "ritual chamber" came off as a bit tacky, but hey, if he can keep a group together then that's his little party.
My impression is that he uses the basic outline according to the Satanic Bible for the sake of having organized, but is more eclectic and inclusive to theistic and spiritual Satanists.
There are definitely not thousands of Satanists in Oklahoma city. But of course, it's more exciting to say otherwise.
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#48018 - 02/04/11 12:33 AM
Re: Satanists Book Oklahoma Civic Center for Ritual
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Jake999
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For what it WAS, it was done within limits I would see as acceptable. They're not following the exact guidelines of ritual that I was taught, nor were they conducting a ritual exactly as I WOULD... but they WERE DOING SOMETHING, rather than simply being on the web and declaring themselves to be "satanists," yet lacking any personal experience or contextual substance.
I personally might have defied any local laws or taboos and had the naked altar. I wouldn't have covered my face or had the members of the ritual do so. If I was going to "go public," it would be more of an impact to say, "Here we are. This we do," without obscuring our appearances.
Of course this was Oklahoma City. Most of the time in California, I could have sold tickets, but when the press was at one of our events, we made no allowance for them. They saw us... boobs and all.
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