One of the investors in a proposed Islamic center near ground zero is a Long Island medical clinic owner whose expressions of sympathy for Palestinians included a donation to a charity later shut down for links to Hamas.

When the foundation's leaders were indicted, Attorney General John Ashcroft said, the case was not "a reflection on the well-meaning people who may have donated funds to the foundation."

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Guilt by association? Please. Come up with something better, or take it somewhere else.

Wouldn't this be guilty by support / aiding and abetting? Don't dodge the facts here.

And wake up to what's going on

maybe you support terrorism also?

The simple act of aligning yourself with Islam you are automatically designating yourself as "terrorist" or, at the very least, a supporter.

If the Muslim faith didn't call for such extreme measures (which are actively being seen to) I would have no more of a problem with them building their mosques than I would have with any other religious group building their places of worship. However, as it sits right now, Islam poses a credible threat. Therefore I have no problem opposing them and their agenda at every possible turn.

If you don't believe me, ask Theo van Gogh. Oh, wait! You can't. He was stabbed to death in broad daylight in the streets of his own city by a Muslim because of the film he did on Islam.

The simple act of aligning yourself with Islam you are automatically designating yourself as "terrorist" or, at the very least, a supporter.

And by aligning with the Christian Bible, the believers would be aligning themselves with execution of gays and those who work on Saturdays, not allowing women to teach (because they are easily deceived), justifying war with "enemies" based on religion, stoning to death unruly youth, owning slaves, beating slaves (as long as the slave survives a day or two), killing all the men of countries defeated in war and making slaves of the women and children (the pretty women can be taken as wives), commanding women to submit unto their husbands in EVERYTHING, and a lot of other things.

But no one seems to be appalled at a Christian church being near Ground Zero. If believers of either religion followed all that their ancient books profess, they would all be considered terrorists.

A pastor who hates Muslims, Mormons, and gays, will be preaching at the 9/11 Christian Center. He began preaching Sundays at the Marriott at 85 West Street (about as near to Ground Zero as the mosque, if not nearer). A weekly service is planned at the hotel until the $8 million center finds a permanent space.

Yet not a peep from those who are protesting the mosque.

And by aligning with the Christian Bible, the believers would be aligning themselves with execution of gays and those who work on Saturdays, not allowing women to teach (because they are easily deceived), justifying war with "enemies" based on religion, stoning to death unruly youth, owning slaves, beating slaves (as long as the slave survives a day or two), killing all the men of countries defeated in war and making slaves of the women and children (the pretty women can be taken as wives), commanding women to submit unto their husbands in EVERYTHING, and a lot of other things.

A pastor who hates Muslims, Mormons, and gays, will be preaching at the 9/11 Christian Center. He began preaching Sundays at the Marriott at 85 West Street (about as near to Ground Zero as the mosque, if not nearer). A weekly service is planned at the hotel until the $8 million center finds a permanent space.

If all you can do is accuse people of being terrorists, I suggest you visit a forum that is less demanding at an intellectual level.

D.

And yet you don't see a large number of Xians doing any of that. If they do start to actively mobilize then there will be an issue. Until then I will focus on credible threats.

It is equally bad, but at least the majority of the U.S is and has been raised Christian. It's normal a Christian church would be built since Christianity is part of the U.S culture. Islam simply isn't. Add up the emotional burden people have about this place and you'll quite quickly notice it is a grave insult.

How do you know that terrorists can't recruit people in a village after US forces have left? Have you tried?

Who did we invade that caused 9/11?

Who did we invade that caused 9/11?

The simple act of aligning yourself with Islam you are automatically designating yourself as "terrorist" or, at the very least, a supporter.

I'm not fooled by anything.

I don't trust this Mosque crap, or any Muslim institution. The article tied that investor into Hamas, a terrorist group. I don't believe for a moment he didn't know what he was doing back then, he's a liar.

When the foundation's leaders were indicted, Attorney General John Ashcroft said, the case was not "a reflection on the well-meaning people who may have donated funds to the foundation.

Until then I will focus on credible threats.

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Owning slaves was part of our culture. Voting restricted to men only, that was a part of our culture. Prohitibiting interracial marriage also (up until the 60's). Marriage restricted to heterosexual couples, I predict that will eventually change also. Change is inevitable.

As far as I have heard the US is still democratic and thus the choice of the majority is still the deciding one.
This leads to the one conclusion: adapt or shut up.

Incorrect - personal responsibility cuts both ways. That is to say, people are responsible for their own actions, and "Islam" isn't a person. Some people are peaceful and have Islam as their faith, and some people use Islam as a tool to manipulate others.

So we are left with two choices. Either:

A) Steven Emerson, who investigates Hamas for a living, and the federal authorities who convicted the fund management, are incompetent, and Oxus and 6Satan6Archist6 are in possession of evidence that links the guys in the article to Hamas; or

B) Our two compatriots have been manipulated by people using Islam as a tool to leverage their emotions.

And THIS, Dimitri is the reason for our Constitutional right of Freedom of Speech. It's there to protect the minority and allow them the right to dissent, even in the face of unrelenting odds against them. You don't HAVE to adapt and shut up. Moreover, the correct ideal would be assimilate and speak your piece, so long as you also extend that same right to others, even if you disagree.

The Klan is hardly in the majority, but we listen to what they have to say. We then have the choice of accepting it or rejecting it.

The Communist Party is hardly in the majority, but we listen to what they have to say. We then have the choice of accepting it or rejecting it.

NAMBLA is hardly in the majority, but we listen to what they have to say. We then have the choice of accepting it or rejecting it.

And even when people or concepts are in the majority, but number or ideological acceptance by a preponderance of agreement... we still have the right to dissent. We don't have to agree with them any more than they have to agree with us.

Same-sex marriage supporters were receiving death threats. Miss California, in reaction to her comment disagreeing with same-sex marriage, caused her death threats. Those who were trying to take the cross off the seal of California were receiving death threats. Nearly all celebrities receive death threats. If you believe them all terrorists, then this country is filled with terrorists from pretty much all controversial viewpoints. You're always going to have the emotional idiots who react as such.

Actually I don't know. That's according to U.S. intelligence data from their monitoring of terrorist recruitment efforts. Also, interviews of captured jihadists reveal that homeland invasion is what ultimately drove them to join the fight. Nothing surprising.

You just can't get many average people to blow themselves up just because they hate someone else's religion.

It's protecting their homeland that motivates them, much as the Kamikaze's motivation.

But you seem to be standing behind a concept where majority (Christianity) rules. You wouldn't happen to be a Christian, are you?

There has never been an absolute democracy here. Fortunately, freedom is protected under the Constitution. Study up on your history again.

If what you prefer were right and it were truly an absolute democracy, with a majority being Christian things would be much different than they are now. In fact, Christian organizations are on a constant rally to push the very same concept you seem to support ("there's more of us so why is our government protecting the rights of the minority religions"). They would hold you as their hero if you were put in charge!

And THIS, Dimitri is the reason for our Constitutional right of Freedom of Speech. It's there to protect the minority and allow them the right to dissent, even in the face of unrelenting odds against them. You don't HAVE to adapt and shut up. Moreover, the correct ideal would be assimilate and speak your piece, so long as you also extend that same right to others, even if you disagree.

I am often asked to guess as to how many Muslims are Jihadists. The easiest answer is: enough to commit the terrorist acts detailed in this 1,000-page-long Islamic Terror Timeline.

I'm finding myself becoming more and more prejudice against not really Muslims but religion in general. This whole Islamic thing is kind of ridiculous.

With some luck, they can become to us what the Jews were to the Nazis.

The xenophobia against Muslims is a massive distraction tactic. FOX news is whipping it up and they don't even care; one of their primary investors is a Muslim oil prince.

In a country where so many of us are unemployed, and the rich are nonetheless getting richer, are powerless little Muslims really the thing to be worrying about?

In a country where so many of us are unemployed, and the rich are nonetheless getting richer, are powerless little Muslims really the thing to be worrying about?

I'm proud I was there on this last 9/11 defending the mosque. Your scapegoating probably won't work, anyway. Mosque supporters outnumbered mosque protesters.

Who did we invade that caused 9/11?

I guess you assume that if we all just hold hands and wish things to be better, peace on Earth will be the inevitable result.

I expect more realism from a satanist.