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#44578 - 12/03/10 02:16 AM Re: N. Korea vs. South [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
Harvey Offline
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Registered: 03/28/10
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I need to get my hand on a few nukes myself. I don't want to be caught without them should others decide to start launching theirs. That wouldn't be "fair"



Ha!

Why be a passive victim in the nuclear arms race? Follow the links and you will be the envy of all your friends. You too can be a contender!

http://twin-peaks-video.com/darkstar/so_you/want%20to%20build%20an%20h-bomb.htm

http://www.nada.kth.se/~asa/atomic.html

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#46266 - 01/09/11 03:49 AM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: Clarence]
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I expect that most of you here would be aware of the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords that has seen five people killed and another thirteen injured in Arizona.

Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik blamed the "vitriolic political rhetoric that has consumed the country, much of it occurring in Arizona".

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"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous"


Barack Obama called for the nation to come together after the shooting, saying that "such a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society."

The government will not fail to capitalize on this event, and lay blame squarely at the feet of "dissenters" and "divisive politics". This is indeed fortuitous, and may provide the needed ammunition to snuff out Wikileaks and any other form of open political dialog.

Thoughts? Conflicting opinions?

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#46267 - 01/09/11 04:11 AM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: Moravagine]
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Here's a critical story with some film that shows Giffords asking a question, may give you a chance to see the person rather than thinking of her entirely as a cypher

Greening Our Bases
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#46285 - 01/09/11 12:20 PM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: Aklo]
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The "shooter" has a YouTube channel, and I could not resist but unleash a message to the channel knowing it would fall into the hands of the American authorities. I am so glad I am not American as I am very sure the FBI will be smashing my door down about now. Damn was I bad tempered yesterday.

Expect more shooting like this over the next two years, in a financial crisis with paranoia at its peak I can see more Americans taking out their guns and opening fire.
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#46288 - 01/09/11 01:24 PM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: mabon2010]
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 Originally Posted By: mabon2010
The "shooter" has a YouTube channel, and I could not resist but unleash a message to the channel knowing it would fall into the hands of the American authorities. I am so glad I am not American as I am very sure the FBI will be smashing my door down about now. Damn was I bad tempered yesterday.

Expect more shooting like this over the next two years, in a financial crisis with paranoia at its peak I can see more Americans taking out their guns and opening fire.


Yes, cause we all know that all Americans are crazed lunatics and all go guns-a-blazing with their vast arsenal of weapons due to the 2nd Amendment.

Is that someone watching your living space outside?
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#46293 - 01/09/11 01:58 PM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: JWG]
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 Originally Posted By: JWG
 Originally Posted By: mabon2010
The "shooter" has a YouTube channel, and I could not resist but unleash a message to the channel knowing it would fall into the hands of the American authorities. I am so glad I am not American as I am very sure the FBI will be smashing my door down about now. Damn was I bad tempered yesterday.

Expect more shooting like this over the next two years, in a financial crisis with paranoia at its peak I can see more Americans taking out their guns and opening fire.


Yes, cause we all know that all Americans are crazed lunatics and all go guns-a-blazing with their vast arsenal of weapons due to the 2nd Amendment.

Is that someone watching your living space outside?


The American authorites are so sensitive...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...et-Service.html
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#46344 - 01/09/11 09:02 PM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: mabon2010]
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The "shooter" has a YouTube channel, and I could not resist but unleash a message to the channel knowing it would fall into the hands of the American


Why couldn’t you resist? I thought you had free will?
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#46353 - 01/09/11 11:45 PM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: Asmedious]
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LOL! Most of us are like Oscar Wilde in that we can resist everything but temptation. ;\)
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#46358 - 01/10/11 01:47 AM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: mabon2010]
Nyte Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
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Loc: Ohio
 Originally Posted By: mabon2010

The American authorites are so sensitive...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...et-Service.html


And you're going to tell me that something like this couldn't happen if the Parliment or Royal Family was threatened? The MI5 wouldn't respond accordingly as well?

The Secret Service was doing it's job. Simple as that.
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#46361 - 01/10/11 03:20 AM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: Nyte]
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First of all, the Daily Mail is hardly a rich source of unbiased information but no newspaper is.
Members of the public frequently say they'd like to punch certain Members of Parliament and no-one cares; we just find it funny. They are only elected public servants after all. Eggs,flour, a strange blue powder which proved, disappointingly, to be poster paint have all been flung at MPs recently and used by comedians for material.
This new(ish) government are, however, a bunch of two-faced bastards and will probably make egging a capital offence or something.
As for her Majesty the Queen, she very graciously dismissed an uninvited guest from her bedchamber a few years ago. He was arrested but proved to be a harmless loony and Royal watcher so we let him go. \:\)
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#46372 - 01/10/11 08:01 AM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: felixgarnet]
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Personally if I was the target of people throwing things at me, even if it was something harmless, I too would be in favor of making it a “Capital Offense.” Or at least punishable by a hefty fine, and at least 30 days in the slammer. Second offense would be much more severe. Being in public office does not make a person a legitimate physical target for anything.

Anyhow, I think that the Secret Service does an excellent job. I had a run in with them twice, luckily not as their ‘suspect,’ but as an observer when they had to interview two of my psych patients. They presented themselves professionally, they were polite to everyone envolved, and even exhibited a sense of humor. During the interview of one psych patient who stated that he didn’t really mean to threaten the President and actually liked him, and then started to ramble on about space aliens, one of the agents must have noticed that I had great difficulty in keeping a straight face. Afterwards as I was escorting him off the ward he turned to me and asked, “So, do you have any objections to Space Aliens?”
I told him that I wasn’t allowed to say, because they are always listening. We both got a good chuckle out of it.

We just never know when and off handed comment, even if made as a joke, isn’t merely the very tip of the iceberg of something much deeper and sinister brewing inside of someone. Even if only one in a hundred thousand is valid, it is still better to be over zealous in protecting the President then to be too flippant about it.
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#46430 - 01/10/11 12:45 PM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: Asmedious]
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Registered: 10/19/09
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Loc: Ohio
 Originally Posted By: Asmedious
Personally if I was the target of people throwing things at me, even if it was something harmless, I too would be in favor of making it a “Capital Offense.” Or at least punishable by a hefty fine, and at least 30 days in the slammer. Second offense would be much more severe. Being in public office does not make a person a legitimate physical target for anything.


Hell, even not being in public office shouldn't matter, like you first stated. I've had to deal with vandalism, threats, etc. Teens around here think they're pretty bad ass because they ARE underage and have the mentality that no one can touch them. What's happened to this nice town is happening in lots of places and I wonder if it can ever be changed again. Even after they get into trouble with the law, they don't care and go about doing whatever they like. We've all seen a good example of what that kind of mentality produces (-Z-) where there aren't any personal boundries.

 Originally Posted By: Asmedious
Anyhow, I think that the Secret Service does an excellent job. I had a run in with them twice, luckily not as their ‘suspect,’ but as an observer when they had to interview two of my psych patients. They presented themselves professionally, they were polite to everyone envolved, and even exhibited a sense of humor. During the interview of one psych patient who stated that he didn’t really mean to threaten the President and actually liked him, and then started to ramble on about space aliens, one of the agents must have noticed that I had great difficulty in keeping a straight face. Afterwards as I was escorting him off the ward he turned to me and asked, “So, do you have any objections to Space Aliens?”
I told him that I wasn’t allowed to say, because they are always listening. We both got a good chuckle out of it.


Oh stop! You know they aren't listening to everything. That would take way too many aliens away from doing experiments on perfectly good human subjects.

 Originally Posted By: Asmedious
We just never know when and off handed comment, even if made as a joke, isn’t merely the very tip of the iceberg of something much deeper and sinister brewing inside of someone. Even if only one in a hundred thousand is valid, it is still better to be over zealous in protecting the President then to be too flippant about it.


We've also seen too many times where following up or just letting someone go because they were just "weird" has cost innocent lives for no other reason then the ramblings of a mad man. I certainly wouldn't want it to be someone I cared about and loved because they were able to attend something like a Presidential speech. Yes, I'm selfish about it.
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#46435 - 01/10/11 01:03 PM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: felixgarnet]
Nyte Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
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Loc: Ohio
 Originally Posted By: felixgarnet
First of all, the Daily Mail is hardly a rich source of unbiased information but no newspaper is.
Members of the public frequently say they'd like to punch certain Members of Parliament and no-one cares; we just find it funny. They are only elected public servants after all. Eggs,flour, a strange blue powder which proved, disappointingly, to be poster paint have all been flung at MPs recently and used by comedians for material.
This new(ish) government are, however, a bunch of two-faced bastards and will probably make egging a capital offence or something.
As for her Majesty the Queen, she very graciously dismissed an uninvited guest from her bedchamber a few years ago. He was arrested but proved to be a harmless loony and Royal watcher so we let him go. \:\)


That's great the everyone can laugh about it. The problem is, in that flour or poster paint could have been something much worse. Something that could have harmed many more people than just that single person. There are plenty of chemicals and bio-chemicals out there that could have killed way more than just those in that gathering.

If you've never read it, read up on how someone that inhales Anthrax dies. It's painful and would completely suck to be an innocent person exposed to it, for no other reason than someone being pissed off at an official.

I agree, they're lying bastards (politicians), but that doesn't give some loon the right to vandalize, threaten, throw projectiles, or take said politician's life either.
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#46440 - 01/10/11 01:38 PM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: Nyte]
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I hear dying in a car crash isn't a too swell experience either and the odds it will happen are far greater than inhaling anthrax through flour thrown at you. Still, I need to see the first real demand for a ban on cars.

People are too scared nowadays and for everything harmful that can happen to them, imaginary or not, the state needs to jump in and prevent it at all costs.

Being alive always was a risky business; you can't make it safe without losing the feeling you actually live.

Man up dear satanists, man up.

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#46442 - 01/10/11 01:52 PM Re: It's Official: America is a Police State [Re: Diavolo]
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So if someone threw blue color flour at you, for let's say being a Satanist, you would just shrug it off?
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