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#48754 - 02/12/11 03:10 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Diavolo]
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I saw that a couple of months ago and had the same reaction. Definitely not the typical movie. It's brutal and relies heavily on facial expressions and body language. The scenery tells the story more than the characters do. It was a very strange movie, perhaps that's why it had such appeal for me.

One-Eye with his axe. I loved how he broke his opponent's neck in one of the fights. Epic.
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#48756 - 02/12/11 03:21 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Nemesis]
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I love the first chapter.

It is very symbolic about how society keeps us chained and caged and only utilizes us to its benefit. We are even allowed to kill, as long as they control it, and it is to their advantage.

It is through our disgust and hatred to all this that we will find a manner to break free, destroy all that controlled us before and walk our own path.

It is only then that we transcend the status of cattle.

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#48758 - 02/12/11 03:41 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Diavolo]
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Well it better not suck, because after reading the first couple of reviews I put it on my Netflix thing, and should be getting it early next week.
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#48769 - 02/12/11 11:39 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Asmedious]
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I'm hitting the store and then the video store tomorrow. I'm working on getting some things up and running, a business of my own, yet again, and need to pick up just a couple more things. But since I've been itching for a good movie, I plan on watching that tomorrow evening. I'll post my thoughts after I'm done watching it.
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#48770 - 02/13/11 12:32 AM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Nyte]
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Yup, I'll bite. All of the reviews have, indeed, caught my interest as well. My impression after reading you all talk about it, is that it is not your standard Hollywood-ized movie. I like strange and I like depth in my movies, personally. A good example would be The Fountainhead or Donnie Darko.
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#48780 - 02/13/11 08:32 AM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Diavolo]
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It is only then that we transcend the status of cattle.

And then proceed to go stark raving mad ;\)

Asmedious: The key is to not go into this movie with any preconceptions. This isn't "Too Fast, Too Furious: Nordland Drift" or "Gladiator" with Vikings instead of Romans (well, sort of). It's a very indie film, and there's a reason why it didn't open in any theaters here in the US (as far as I'm aware of). It won't appeal to the vast majority of moviewatchers.
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#48781 - 02/13/11 10:19 AM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Nemesis]
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Indeed, this is one of those "like it or hate it" movies. I've seen reviews range from "best movie ever" to "euro-trash".

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#49054 - 02/17/11 04:42 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Diavolo]
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I watched it last night. Didn't like it. If there was some kind of deep meaning to it all, I completely missed it.

Non the less it had some good parts at the beginning.
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#49057 - 02/17/11 05:27 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Asmedious]
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If there was some kind of deep meaning to it all, I completely missed it.


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ZARATHUSTRA’ DISCOURSES
I. THE THREE METAMORPHOSES

THREE METAMORPHOSES OF the spirit do I designate to you: how the spirit becometh a camel, the camel a lion, and the lion at last a child.

Many heavy things are there for the spirit, the strong load-bearing spirit in which reverence dwelleth: for the heavy and the heaviest longeth its strength. What is heavy? so asketh the load-bearing spirit; then kneeleth it down like the camel, and wanteth to be well laden. What is the heaviest thing, ye heroes? asketh the loadbearing spirit, that I may take it upon me and rejoice in my strength.

Is it not this: To humiliate oneself in order to mortify one’s pride? To exhibit one’s folly in order to mock at one’s wisdom? Or is it this: To desert our cause when it celebrateth its triumph? To ascend high mountains to tempt the tempter? Or is it this: To feed on the acorns and grass of knowledge, and for the sake of truth to suffer hunger of soul? Or is it this: To be sick and dismiss comforters, and make friends of the deaf, who never hear thy requests? Or is it this: To go into foul water when it is the water of truth, and not disclaim cold frogs and hot toads? Or is it this: To love those who despise us, and give one’s hand to the phantom when it is going to frighten us? All these heaviest things the load-bearing spirit taketh upon itself: and like the camel, which, when laden, hasteneth into the wilderness, so hasteneth the spirit into its wilderness.

But in the loneliest wilderness happeneth the second metamorphosis: here the spirit becometh a lion; freedom will it capture, and lordship in its own wilderness. Its last Lord it here seeketh: hostile will it be to him, and to its last God; for victory will it struggle with the great dragon. What is the great dragon which the spirit is no longer inclined to call Lord and God? “Thou-shalt,” is the great dragon called. But the spirit of the lion saith, “I will.” “Thou-shalt,” lieth in its path, sparkling with gold—a scale-covered beast; and on every scale glittereth golden, “Thou shalt!” The values of a thousand years glitter on those scales, and thus speaketh the mightiest of all dragons: “All the values of things—glitter on me. All values have already been created, and all created values—do I represent. Verily, there shall be no ‘I will’ any more. Thus speaketh the dragon.

My brethren, wherefore is there need of the lion in the spirit? Why sufficeth not the beast of burden, which renounceth and is reverent? To create new values—that, even the lion cannot yet accomplish: but to create itself freedom for new creating— that can the might of the lion do. To create itself freedom, and give a holy Nay even unto duty: for that, my brethren, there is need of the lion. To assume the right to new values—that is the most formidable assumption for a load-bearing and reverent spirit. Verily, unto such a spirit it is preying, and the work of a beast of prey. As its holiest, it once loved “Thou-shalt”: now is it forced to find illusion and arbitrariness even in the holiest things, that it may capture freedom from its love: the lion is needed for this capture.

But tell me, my brethren, what the child can do, which even the lion could not do? Why hath the preying lion still to become a child? Innocence is the child, and forgetfulness, a new beginning, a game, a self-rolling wheel, a first movement, a holy Yea. Aye, for the game of creating, my brethren, there is needed a holy Yea unto life: its own will, willeth now the spirit; his own world winneth the world’s outcast.

Three metamorphoses of the spirit have I designated to you: how the spirit became a camel, the camel a lion, and the lion at last a child.—

Thus spake Zarathustra. And at that time he abode in the town which is called The Pied Cow.


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#49603 - 02/24/11 11:13 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Diavolo]
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Valhalla Rising was interesting, just not interesting enough to watch a second time. I understand the concept behind it, the problem was it drag way too much. There could have been so much more added to that movie to intensify the message within it without overloading it. I especially didn't like the ending. I would have liked to see more of what happened with the boy and for One-Eye to have at least fought instead. I won't give any more away.
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#50020 - 02/27/11 02:31 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Nyte]
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One of the better movies to see, even when slightly alien at some levels, is Bronson. The fact that it is based upon a real story might make it all even more surreal to many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XzmR6Pmmgw

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#50021 - 02/27/11 03:00 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Diavolo]
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Hm, another Refn film ...

I liked Valhalla Rising, on a purely emotional level. I watched it late, after a hard day, and appreciated the 70's-style landscape pans - it was a beautiful movie.

I didn't bother analyzing it, or intellectualizing it at all - I just watched. It was very Zen.
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#50023 - 02/27/11 03:17 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Autodidact]
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 Originally Posted By: Autodidact
[/quote] [quote=Autodidact]Hm, another Refn film ...

I liked Valhalla Rising, on a purely emotional level. I watched it late, after a hard day, and appreciated the 70's-style landscape pans - it was a beautiful movie.

I didn't bother analyzing it, or intellectualizing it at all - I just watched. It was very Zen.


This is when I enjoy movies the most. I seldom see anything in the theaters because there are too many distractions. I like to suspend disbelief, relax in the darkness of my home with the phone off and nothing to do but watch for the sake of watching, leaving all of the analysis for another time.
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#50025 - 02/27/11 03:38 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: Jake999]
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I'm not a big fan of theaters either. Too many people, those arriving too late always sitting in from of you, people eating popcorn as if chewing noises contribute to the very taste and those sweet, sweet tunes of cellphones not turned off.

Not even mentioning the breaks because the cattle needs to be fed or can't hold their fluids up long enough.

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#50033 - 02/27/11 06:28 PM Re: Movie Recommendations [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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I'd also like to highly recommend "The Road", which is a movie adaptation of the book. Viggo Mortenson plays the lead character, and it's an incredibly bleak movie that shows how low humanity will sink when faced with starvation, never-ending cold, and no hope.



Naturally I'd recommend that one read the novel first, then watch the movie. The directors did a great job of capturing the essence of the book, and follows it pretty much to a tee.
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