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#45785 - 12/30/10 10:11 PM The truth shall set you free!
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Watching this video made me not only laugh but resounded in my head things that I have always thought. \:\) It's all truth.
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#45788 - 12/31/10 07:49 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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A true role model. Use him wisely.

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#45794 - 12/31/10 10:45 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Diavolo]
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WTF!?

Worst street poet ever.

'Douche' is the fist thing that came to mind when I rolled tape. I had a very difficult time getting past my first impression of the guy. Ok, I get it, biker guy stick - fat (check), no shirt (check), tattoos (check), dwarf beard (check), biker guy sunglasses (check). Labret piercing? WTF? IMO, it is hard to come off as a bad ass when you have any number of facial piercings that I will use as nails to shatter the bones in your face. In fact, facial piercings scream "I don't know shit about street combat."

Now, getting to the content of his screed, you can usually get better from just about any drunk sitting in a park in any city in America. It would be just as insightful and much more poetic. Try going to downtown Detroit. You could even film it and make your own insightful Youtube video.

I think Sinatra already did a classier version of this act in "My Way" wearing a way better suit and not once dropping the F-bomb.
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#45795 - 12/31/10 10:49 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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Nailed it AGAIN, Fist.

Things like this remind me of Meatloaf's I WANT MY MONEY BACK. Impotent rage and excuses for not making it.
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#45800 - 12/31/10 12:23 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Jake999]
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Well, he did get $1.47 in donations on his website (indicated by the dick meter bar across the top of the page).

I dunno guys, I'm kind of impressed. \:D

I wonder what, specifically, the things are that people told this cat he couldn't do, yet he did and proved them wrong?

My instinct tells me he should have listened to them.
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#45802 - 12/31/10 12:58 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fnord]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord

I wonder what, specifically, the things are that people told this cat he couldn't do, yet he did and proved them wrong?


"DUDE!!! You can't get a chest full of bad prison tats!!!"
"DUDE!!! You can't grow a really bad beard!!!"
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#45807 - 12/31/10 05:32 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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I thought it was fun to watch. Sometimes that's enough in itself.
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#45808 - 12/31/10 08:42 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Asmedious]
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These motorcycle forums Iíve been wasting time at are starting to bore me, full of whiners with no backbone that cry because you disagree with them. Itís like I was back in grade school there, damn Iím spoiled from being here so long.

On to the topicÖ

I find this guy funny at times his insights are his, some are very basic but true. Thanks O.K. for bringing me back to thechurchofdaveís channel. I enjoy it as entertainment as well Asme. I see a biker claiming that his first inspiration came from Dr Demento. I see a biker on YouTube trying to act unlike the common stereotype by showing he thinks while being himself. Funny at times laughing at himself showing he just might not be as perceived.

On fighting, facial piercings and SatanismÖ

Me I donít fight, I have worn facial piercings in my past. I have always seen people with facial piercings as those who donít fight or just donít need to fight.

The brain is the most powerful weapon it can keep you out of a fight as easily as getting you into one. I bet most guys that fight if they look at it the fools they pummel are just too stupid to know what not to say when and where. Had they kept their mouth shut and only said something when it was appropriate or postured when they shouldnít I doubt there would have been a fight.

But donít think me weak just cause Iím not a fighter. I carry a big fucking gun and have practiced getting it into my hand quickly, so I have "faith" I can stop anyone from thinking Iím going to take the losing end by street fighting with him or her. If I really need to kick someoneís ass a few tattoos to the right individuals could keep my moneymakers (hands) in pristine condition.

Now that is my brand of Satanism right there, having the ability to manipulate others to do your bidding knowing your limitations and doing what is under your control to go beyond them and give yourself the better hand in any situation.

On his tattoosÖ

I wonder what really sets off some of these comments like prison tats etc. Looking at better quality videos of his I put my money on those two large Indian designs are old but professional. Why the mixture of American Indian and Egyptian symbols I donít know but itís not my body and other than showing his tattoos he is not trying to tell me they are the cats ass of tattoos. Members have posted shittier tattoos here with a look at me attitude with less said.

Closing thoughtsÖ

Oh you were still reading?

I talk too much
~T~
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#45809 - 12/31/10 08:44 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Asmedious]
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I thought the guy was pretty funny but I don't believe his whole story about coming up with the idea to mix rap with punk. The fact that he used Aerosmith as an example of a band who "stole" "his idea" make it even more so unbelievable; Aerosmith was probably making music when he was elementary school. And even if his whole message was a little cliche I think it important to remember that a defeatist mindset never got anyone anywhere.
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#45810 - 12/31/10 10:18 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: ta2zz]
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tazz,

Not a knock just and observation. Remember, my wife is a tattoo artist (but she also has an MFA) so I understand the old bad tattoos. But I think a lot of these guys have gotten their 'bad' tattoos in the last 5 years. And, most of them are straight going for the tough guy look.

As a trained and skilled fighter, combatives instructor, and a guy who has been more real fights than most folks have seen action movies, I am sick to death of 'tough guys.' Don't start shit - won't be shit. Guys like Douche in the above video are the first guys to try to start shit if they think they have the edge. In my normal grown-up dress most folks think I am a fairly normal guy - maybe an old jock. So, I routinely deal with guys who are use to chasing off frat boys with that shtick.

I don't knock anyone for avoiding a fight. In most cases it is a good idea. Most people are not very good at it and if things go wrong (and they often do) the engagement can end in death or crippling injury. Most people also don't know how to properly flee the scene of the crime so you will usually have one guy leaving in an ambulance and another in a police car.

Never the less, for those who insist on facial jewelry and being a tough guy, consider the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYAJGEtUBn4
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#45825 - 01/01/11 03:06 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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Can't say I disagree with his main point of keeping true and at your best with creative projects whether others like them or not. That's something I can definitely get behind. But I do agree how that idea can easily become an excuse for failure.

I'd suggest he doesn't drink three gallons of coffee before stepping in front of a webcam but I'm sure he'd give me a big "FUCK YOU!"

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#45844 - 01/01/11 09:12 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: TV is God]
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Reminds me of a tee shirt quote.

"Fuck You, You Fucking Fuck"

Did I miss anything else? lol

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#45845 - 01/01/11 09:41 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Morgan]
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Hey, I have that shirt!!!

I agree with TV, guy needs to ease up on the caffeine.
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#45860 - 01/02/11 06:46 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Draculesti]
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Makes me laugh how most people here are jumping to conclusions about various things concerning Scary Dave.

For one, I've watched this vid a few times (Probably about 4 at the most...), and I cannot recall him ever saying that Aerosmith and RunDMC stole his idea of mixing rap with rock. If I recall correctly, he was merely pointing out that he came up with something similar beforehand, and someone in the music biz told him it wouldn't sell. Then, he refers to Aerosmith and RunDMC doing it, trying to put across the point that listening to others' nay saying gets you nowhere, and only trial and error will help you succeed.

Plus, almost everyone is judging him by one video by the looks of things.

I personally find his videos insightful and entertaining. It's a case of "each to their own" at the end of the day. If you like it, that's cool. If you don't, fair enough, but whinging about it ain't gonna improve it.

@Fist: I don't see how facial piercings have anything to do with being a "bad ass". I see it as something people have for enjoyment, much like tattoos. Plus, your aggressiveness towards the guy looks like insecurity to me. Dunno if you two have crossed paths negatively within your lives or not, but that, at the end of the day, is none of my business, neither is your apparent hatred towards the guy. I just think people ought to chill out, rather than risk a hernia over disliking something.

Oh well....
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#45863 - 01/03/11 12:03 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: DistroyA]
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I don't see how facial piercings have anything to do with being a "bad ass". I see it as something people have for enjoyment, much like tattoos. Plus, your aggressiveness towards the guy looks like insecurity to me.


I think you miss my point.

I have spent most of my life around what most people would call 'a rough crowd.' From my own experience, it seems to me that this guy is broadcasting out a 'tough guy' persona. Do you see it differently?

He could just as easily put on a shirt and tie, shave, and tone down the language. But that is not the image he is trying to project is it? No, he instead takes of his shirt to show how tatted up he is. Because after all, tough guys have tattoos right?

Then, he gives us an in-your-face fuck-you rant - a rant, that I would argue (in my experience) has been well practiced from spending a lot of time telling people just what he thinks in person. Do you disagree? Would you argue that he is a normally civil and agreeable man? Or, does he use his persona to throw his weight around as it suits him? I ask you.

Now, my point, is only that a guy who is actually an experienced fighter would not get facial piercing because of the extra damage your face will sustain from them in a real fight. You see, I take my violence seriously and have little patience for posers.
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#45865 - 01/03/11 02:01 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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There are a few things that Iíve noticed in this first video of his, that struck me.

He articulates his words well. He doesnít try to sound like a red neck country hick. This is not a put down on people who have certain accents, since I do so myself. However when people attempt to fake a certain personality they also pick up an accent. This is most apparent with truckers. When I was driving for a few months I noticed that it didnít matter where a trucker was from, they could have been from New England, yet a very large percentage of them sounded like ďtruckers,Ē from down south.
Although he does drop the "F" bomb, he also has a decent vocabulary (apparant in his other videos).

Second, I noticed that he has relatively nice teeth. You can tell a lot about a person by his teeth. He seems to take good care of them. They are clean, and they are all there.

Third, he doesnít mind using self depreciating humor (which I saw in his other videos that I watched after seeing this one). This tells me that he doesnít have to pretend to be a tough guy who takes himself too seriously.

My final impression is that he is possibly fairly well educated, and is well adjusted. He likes a certain appearance, but that appearance is not due to a certain image that he is trying to project, but instead is projecting who he is, which is a tough looking biker type, who is relatively down to earth and easy going guy who likes to have fun while expressing his views on youtube.

Certainly I can be way off, but non the less it is the impression that I get.



Edited by Asmedious (01/03/11 02:02 AM)
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#45872 - 01/03/11 06:30 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Asmedious]
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The guy created his act to target the group of teenagers. I tried to watch his morality video but had to give up after five minutes, the act just doesn't weigh up to the little content he is bringing.

He's probably an artist but so is a flatulist. I'm not young enough to find that impressive.

D.

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#45883 - 01/03/11 12:37 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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The only thing I see that makes this guy seem like a "tough guy" is his appearance. Nothing more, nothing less. From what I've gathered from a few of his other videos, it's the only appearance that he feels comfortable with. I think you're just judging him from this one video (That is unless you've seen more videos from him...).

And what's so great about a shirt and tie? I've tried that image already, as you may have already seen in the photo gallery, and it just doesn't suit me at all. Why should he change for anyone else but himself?

You make it sound like only tough guys have tattoos. That's usually the case with BAD tattoos that mean nothing to them but for image. For all you know, this guy could have had his tattoos for more than just appearance.

I don't disagree with your idea of him telling people what he thinks in person, but only to those that treat him like shit. There's more concerning his attitude in one or two other vids he's created.

Very true, he would get more damage from his piercings in a fight, but then again, he's not a physical fighter from what I've gathered; he battles more with words and ideas.

I have no doubt you take your violence seriously, seeing as you're in the army and all. Although I'd say that's where the violence should be focused more, as well as defending yourself in unsavoury circumstances, rather than talking about it on here. I have very little interest for violence personally. It bores me something chronic.


@Asmedious: You've got the same impression as I have done over the last year of encountering this guy's videos.


Edited by DistroyA (01/03/11 12:41 PM)
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#45884 - 01/03/11 02:52 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: DistroyA]
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Whenever you pose in a certain manner, you will get reactions. Sitting there half naked, flashing tattoos and inserting whatever he says with non-related verbal additions might be what he likes but when it is only about the words and ideas, it isn't very relevant. As such, you will get comments upon it. He might not care but if truly, he wouldn't even bother talking for ten minutes about how he doesn't really care. He cares.

Of course it is his gimmick and he might enjoy it, or think it is a useful approach but, personally I find it distractive, especially when it outweighs the actual content. It's a bit like listening to a lecture of Stephen Hawking while he is dressed up as a clown. The lecture could be extremely interesting but the question that would never get out of your head is: What's with the darn clown-act? George Carlin did a far better act than his.

For all I know the guy could be a jolly fellow and good to have a chat with, although I am not too fond of people adding their IQ to their page. It's almost as if they have to prove to you that they are intelligent, something which should be obvious without having to point at it. There are more things on his page which indicate at a high "look at me" tendency.

Maybe it is all in good fun of course, or maybe it's part of being an arteeste. But then again, maybe it isn't.

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#45908 - 01/04/11 11:41 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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Ive never seen this guy before. Im not sure what else hes made or put out. However this was a great video. I loved what he had to say regarding the mass majority of people out there. Being a creative and always misunderstood individual Im always enlightened to hear from those in the same boat having to cope in an useeemingly accaptable world.

However different these people are from myself, whether thier black or white etc, punk rockers, goons or goblins I can find myself within thier experience.

Thanks Dude

And Fuck All of you ! Haha

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#45928 - 01/05/11 12:59 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: HereticAiel]
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So, can I take this down to brass tacks?

Is Douche in the video a hard core bad ass biker mother fucker? Or, is he a straight punk ass bitch who would clam the fuck up if a 'real' motherfucker ever stepped to him?

Seriously niggas, I want to know?

Was that 'urban' enough for you? Faggot ass bitches....
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#45940 - 01/05/11 12:20 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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I've been in the biker environment for long and while bikers might look like a tough bunch, it isn't necessarily so. Even loud-mouthing isn't really an indication and I've seen harmless looking fellas take out big boys on multiple occasions. In the end, it's a bit like dogs; those that bark a lot don't necessarily bite. Neither are big dogs always the most dangerous.

In my current environment, the dangerous people are not those that dress impressive, or act as if they're king of the hill but those that are quite normal, interact quite normal but radiate something unnerving. It's as if you can see in their eyes that it brings bad luck to mess with them.

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#45952 - 01/05/11 07:57 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
Is Douche in the video a hard core bad ass biker mother fucker? Or, is he a straight punk ass bitch who would clam the fuck up if a 'real' motherfucker ever stepped to him?


Does it really matter if he is or isn't? For all we know, he could be the kind of person that would be in between the two examples you set. Not everything is just black and white; there are grey areas...

At the end of the day, he's posted some videos on Youtube for people to watch at their own discretion. No one forced you to watch it, and for some unknown reason, you've took it upon yourself to kick up a shit-fit because, what, the fact that he appears to be a typical biker type, that most people would find un-nerving, and and the fact that he is ranting about past experiences and giving ADVICE to people to never give up on something they want to do, despite what the nay-sayers do. Talk about absolute ignorance or what?

I know we humans are judgemental, but I would have thought that those on this board that did kick up a fuss wouldn't have been so brutal. Sure. the biker image is not to everyone's taste, but neither is Satanism and it's imagery. See where I'm coming from at all?

Try looking at it from a different angle as well as your own. It might help and and may prove productive, rather than destructive.



Also, apologies to the rest of the board and mods in derailing the thread (At least, that's what I see has happened...).
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#45955 - 01/05/11 08:08 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: DistroyA]
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Let's bring it back to topic then shall we?

The point that I got out of this video was not the person that I saw in front of me but the message that was being portrayed. This message that he has so bluntly put out there for everyone to witness I enjoy quite a bit because it is a little piece of advice that I've given to others and yet sometimes have a hard time remembering myself.

This video made me remember just why I am who I am and why I continue doing what I do whether it is to the dismay or pleasure of anyone other than myself.

"If you don't like it, fuck you. This is me, this is what I am doing.. FOR ME."
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#45964 - 01/06/11 12:18 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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In my world...

If someone says 'If you don't like then FUCK YOU' that is an open invitation to a fight to the death. In other words, at the end of "FUCK YOU" it is entirely possible, that the listener MAY, deliver an 'overhand right' followed by boots to the head and possibly a "curb job" ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Curb%20Job&defid=127015 ).

This is the real world - not theory.

If you spend your life on youtube and the www then there is a good chance that you will never have to deal with anything beyond theory.

Again, thus, the question remains, beyond tough words what is the point?
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#45966 - 01/06/11 01:29 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist

If someone says 'If you don't like then FUCK YOU' that is an open invitation to a fight to the death. In other words, at the end of "FUCK YOU" it is entirely possible, that the listener MAY, deliver an 'overhand right' followed by boots to the head and possibly a "curb job"


Just for an addition to your arsenal of body check moves... I've used a variation of this in fights since I was a kid. Once you take the guy down, go for a kick to the side of the head or get next to him and pound the side of his head. The natural reaction is to roll and cover. When he does, you go for a full nelson and slap it on TIGHT. Lift and drag to the nearest curb, sharp rock or brick, then lift him up, still applying the full nelson, and slam his head repeatedly into the curb or brick or glass or whatever's there for him to land on.

Sorry... back to our regularly scheduled topic.
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#45968 - 01/06/11 09:35 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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If used in the context of "let's fight" sure, a big fuck you can cause quite a situation. To be honest though, if someone is saying something to me about my actions that is going to make me feel like a "fuck you" is warranted, then maybe they are more in the wrong than I am. Think about any time that you have said that to another person; was it unwarranted?

The "fuck you" epiphany is more than just a theory; it's fact. The fact of the matter is, I do what I do because I want to do it. 'Nuff said. I don't need anyone telling me I am doing it wrong or I'm a failure.

In my opinion, failure is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has their own definition and for the most part, I couldn't care less about anyone elses definition and how it might relate to me. \:D

The point is making it known to others that despite whatever pedestal they might put themselves on in correlation to another person, that person is going to do and be what they want. You could easily say "fuck you" in a more civil manner, for sure. Some of us do it everyday.
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#45969 - 01/06/11 09:38 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Jake999]
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 Originally Posted By: Jake999
 Originally Posted By: Fist

If someone says 'If you don't like then FUCK YOU' that is an open invitation to a fight to the death. In other words, at the end of "FUCK YOU" it is entirely possible, that the listener MAY, deliver an 'overhand right' followed by boots to the head and possibly a "curb job"


Just for an addition to your arsenal of body check moves... I've used a variation of this in fights since I was a kid. Once you take the guy down, go for a kick to the side of the head or get next to him and pound the side of his head. The natural reaction is to roll and cover. When he does, you go for a full nelson and slap it on TIGHT. Lift and drag to the nearest curb, sharp rock or brick, then lift him up, still applying the full nelson, and slam his head repeatedly into the curb or brick or glass or whatever's there for him to land on.

Sorry... back to our regularly scheduled topic.


Talk about someone I wouldn't want to get into a fight with! Maybe I should think about some flowers after all.
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#45970 - 01/06/11 09:50 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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 Originally Posted By: OrgasmicKarmatic
In my opinion, failure is in the eye of the beholder.


If you can't drive a car but decide to do anyways because you do what you want to do and end up hitting a tree, you're a failure in everyone's eyes.

Of course there are situations where you do your thing but many do require a bit more than "do what you want to do". That's why there is something like acquiring skills or gathering knowledge. There was a reason they sent kids to school.

There are very few things in life that require nothing at all. If someone, however thinks this nothing is surely enough to do everything, sweet. Just don't ask others to look at it and don't consider it silly.

D.

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#45971 - 01/06/11 09:55 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Diavolo]
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I wouldn't call driving into a tree a failure but an exposure of being a dumbass, personally.

Failure in the eye of the beholder though, can easily mean that the person learns not to drive said car into another tree or better yet just doesn't drive again at all until they know how to drive the car.

Also, easily put, a failure to one person on the outside may not be considered a failure to the person on the inside. Failures can be successes if we use them to learn something from.
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#45973 - 01/06/11 10:16 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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I think this is a bed-time story many people cry themselves to sleep with. If people fail a lot, they might indeed be learning but it's also quite possible they are very good at failing.

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#45976 - 01/06/11 10:35 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Diavolo]
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It's pretty much the same idea as the MC at an awards ceremony saying, "There are no losers here... you're ALL winners. And now the trophy for Best Athlete goes to..."

It's an easy to accept egalitarian lie. There ARE losers and there Are winners. The difference is quite often in that losers find ways to mitigate their failures with platitudes.
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#45982 - 01/06/11 11:36 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
In my world...

If someone says 'If you don't like then FUCK YOU' that is an open invitation to a fight to the death. In other words, at the end of "FUCK YOU" it is entirely possible, that the listener MAY, deliver an 'overhand right' followed by boots to the head and possibly a "curb job"


If there was no good reason for them to say "fuck you", yeah, I can understand. But what you're failing to understand is that his "fuck you"s are aimed at people that give him very good reason to say so. You're just taking offense just for the sake of it.

There's more to life than fighting. Seriously.
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#45985 - 01/06/11 12:07 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Diavolo]
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I, personally see nothing wrong with trip ups if there are lessons learned by them.

Usually the loser is the one that continuously fails and does not manage to learn anything from it. Genuinely, we have all played to fool a time or two more than we would like but would we change it if it meant that we would be without that lesson?

Perhaps there are those that console themselves with the "this is a learning experience" after they fail. These are not the people that I am talking about because those people usually do not learn.


 Originally Posted By: Jake999
It's pretty much the same idea as the MC at an awards ceremony saying, "There are no losers here... you're ALL winners. And now the trophy for Best Athlete goes to..."

It's an easy to accept egalitarian lie. There ARE losers and there Are winners. The difference is quite often in that losers find ways to mitigate their failures with platitudes.


I disagree with that first statement but do agree to the second. I disagree with the first statement because those who use failure there advantage are not losers just because they failed.

Try, try again. If you keep failing, keep trying at the variables until you find something that works. This is the only method to go about things in life. The only way to figuring out what is right and wrong for yourself.
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#45988 - 01/06/11 12:57 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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I don't know what life you are living but I don't pursue my goals as if I am playing the lottery. Keep buying tickets is not going to guarantee cashing in the prize.

When I pursue a goal, I make sure I am at my best. I acquire the skills requires, learn the knowledge needed and then go for it. I don't rely on luck or at a "if you swing enough, you might hit once too" approach. When I want something, I make sure it is within my reach and if I, even then, should fail, I do know I fail because it is beyond my limitations. So be it, that's reality for all of us.

But at no point I will keep trying like an energized bunny hoping one day, maybe one day I will succeed.

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#46013 - 01/06/11 06:40 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Diavolo]
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The changing variables include things like education.

When we are younger (at least some) we try to move ourselves ahead of the position we are in without thinking about what it takes to get to the position; we just want to jump. However, as we fail to get there, we realize what variables need to change in our lives to get there.

Say you wanted a better job, you try for it but you don't have what you need to get it. You learn what you need to get that position and THEN go after it again and succeed. You've learned that in order to get someone further ahead, you must obtain a different variable for yourself.

But just obtaining one variable may not work the same always. Such as with the job when you want to get higher than what you are. Just because you went and obtained what you needed for the position ahead of you original one doesn't mean that it will cut it for the next position.

You are always out there switching up your variables. Although, I see, from the way that it is written it does come off as a person grasping at straws. I assure you, this is something everyone does; switching out old variables for changed or revised variables in their life.

Also, just because something doesn't work one time, doesn't mean I am going to just give up on it after the first try. I am going to give it a few goes just to see if it changes with minor changes that I make as well.

Someone said that "if the world is not working with you, then you are not working with the world" but working with the world is a process and figuring out how to get the world to work with you (or if you even want it to for the most part) is all a process. You learn as you use that method.

Putting nothing mystical in it at all... You try something, you fuck up, you switch something and try it again. Perhaps you'll succeed, perhaps you won't. But the fact of the matter is, unless you try a couple times, you'll never know for sure if the outcome is the same as the last.
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#46040 - 01/07/11 06:30 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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Let's quit the yappering my dear and go directly to the essence: how did this technique work out for you?

Did you get what you want or are you still going through all the variables, and while at it, soften the ride with the idea you are learning quite a lot?

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#50379 - 03/03/11 02:04 AM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: Fist]
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I don't see how facial piercings have anything to do with being a "bad ass". I see it as something people have for enjoyment, much like tattoos. Plus, your aggressiveness towards the guy looks like insecurity to me.


I think you miss my point.

I have spent most of my life around what most people would call 'a rough crowd.' From my own experience, it seems to me that this guy is broadcasting out a 'tough guy' persona. Do you see it differently?

He could just as easily put on a shirt and tie, shave, and tone down the language. But that is not the image he is trying to project is it? No, he instead takes of his shirt to show how tatted up he is. Because after all, tough guys have tattoos right?

Then, he gives us an in-your-face fuck-you rant - a rant, that I would argue (in my experience) has been well practiced from spending a lot of time telling people just what he thinks in person. Do you disagree? Would you argue that he is a normally civil and agreeable man? Or, does he use his persona to throw his weight around as it suits him? I ask you.

Now, my point, is only that a guy who is actually an experienced fighter would not get facial piercing because of the extra damage your face will sustain from them in a real fight. You see, I take my violence seriously and have little patience for posers.

I see your point and it's building the rest of the picture here. But about the facial piercing. I personally don't have any but I used to have face piercings when younger. I'd been presented with the question "won't that stuff get ripped out in a fight...?". To this I just thought "well yes, but who cares, when you are intent on blinding somebody or breaking their jaw, who's going to care about a rip down the middle of your mouth". If anything it's only going to make you more enthusiastic. The same goes for the people who think having short hair will give them some kind of advantage. Basically Romans had short hair apparently because this prevented them from having their throats cut from behind. I'd personally see that the guy has short hair so I wouldn't pull it to cut his throat, I'd just stab him in the side of the head or in the heart up through the back ribs. Basically, it's the same with face piercings.

Who goes into a fight with the intent to pull out somebodies face piercings thinking that's going to be even remotely damaging or effective? Obviously, if you get your face booted in then piercings come out with your teeth and what not, but seriously a face piercing coming out in a fight is not going to be much compared to say, the retaliation, irreparable skeletal damage maybe.

I like this guys points made, yes he is overly theatrical but it's his way of getting motivated and putting his heart into what he's saying. I think he just likes to get worked up to express himself. He maybe annoying and transparent, but his points are sound for some who might like his vibe. Motivational and positive for some I'm sure.
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#78447 - 07/23/13 04:22 PM Re: The truth shall set you free! [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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I've never heard of this guy, it seems most of his content is down, to include the video that sparked this discussion.

I did find THIS uploaded by another youtuber.

I listened to about 15 seconds then clicked away.

I did a preliminary search and found his Main Website.

This is a joke right?

Not sure what was so inspirational in the initial video clip, other than the comments posted by the OP.

Is this clip hosted anywhere else? I can't seem to find a copy anywhere. Any insights as to why he took his youtube channel down?
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