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#47831 - 02/01/11 06:05 PM Satanism 10 years forward
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It is the year 2021.

Now look into your crystal balls and predict how Satanism will look in 10 years time.
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#47832 - 02/01/11 06:47 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: mabon2010]
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 Originally Posted By: mabon2010
It is the year 2021.

Now look into your crystal balls and predict how Satanism will look in 10 years time.


Here, let me try... I see in 2021 Satanism will be in the state that the Temple of Set is in today! I see 10 years from now that there will be as many Satanists - especially the materialist variety due to probable advance in sciences like QM etc - in the real world and online as there are Setianists in the real world and online today!
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#47850 - 02/02/11 12:16 AM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: mabon2010]
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I do not share Caladrius' optimism. Nor his (?) man-on for Dr. A.
Sorry, C. No hard feelings ;\) .

A decade from now I envision the same few suspects going about the same old business. Different hats. Different names. The song remains the same.

On the up-side, a few of the chronic ORP/bloggers may have expired through malnutrition.

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#47852 - 02/02/11 12:37 AM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Simon Jester]
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Given that the drugged out, brain dead, self delusional people I see posting absolute bullshit on the web every damned day, unable to use common sense or even the simple apostrophe without screwing up have a snowball's chance in hell of being sterilized, in ten years I see Satanism becoming Christianity light.
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#47859 - 02/02/11 02:59 AM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Jake999]
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Well, okay, let me think.
I imagine in ten years the rate of change in terms of culture and environment and economy may become accelerated to such an extent people are full of fear and turn to fundamentalism of various sorts. The true Satanists will, of course, be the very evangelists the masses turn to in this moment of crisis, but the actual Satanism will be very underground with the exception of outlaw gangs that could be effective if they would stop drinking and doing so much crystal meth.

lol!

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#47862 - 02/02/11 03:23 AM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: mabon2010]
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I see... following discussions in a far future 10+ years from now.

"Gilmore died"
"Oh no, how terrible it is a great loss for the Satanist community we should blablablabla and blablabla..."
(Meanwhile in a possible future form of this board)
"Meh"

A discussion somewhere else
"Long time I heard from 666theblavkjoker666, any idea what happened to him"
"He got married and became more involved with the Buddhist lifestyle"
"But he was one of the greatest minds in Satanism, he was the BIG DUDE over at JoS"..

At the ONA forums
"Blackwood finally decided to go for the liposuction. Satan said to him that he otherwise couldn't fit in the soon to be opening portals from hell and get a blessing from SATAN HIMSELF"
"(Something with fatty of the hill)"

And so on...
Not that much change really unless machines have such high AI and decided to wipe out the human race. Terminus .

Probably the same as it is today. Persons might die and will be heavily discussed about in one place, the others just shrug their shoulders. Certain events like economical break-downs, natural disasters, wars that ended and begun,.. will be heavily discussed and "Satanic" opinions are shared about. Newcomers of the philosophy will still spout nonsense and others will serve them a little gift of digital spanking.

In real life, anybody will probably act the same. Maybe the borders of certain Bible Belts will move a bit in time. Technology will advance, economical situation might be a bit better (or worser) as now. Concerning Satanism; some will still see wearing a baphomet pendant in public as a "sign of individuality and comming out for their religious beliefs" while others have the same stance with tattoos. Some will indulge in grottos/nexions/pylons in their local area and will ask membership to the CoS, FCoS, ToS,.. and probably wave their little membership cards around proudly as if they were "the real deal" while yet others start to indulge in one of the organisations studies, works and available information.

The "old garde" dies off which results in tremendous whining to some, a reference in some peoples life and to others yet another simple shrug of the shoulders.


Edited by Dimitri (02/02/11 03:39 AM)
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#47867 - 02/02/11 06:07 AM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: mabon2010]
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I must say that I can't be utterly objective on this one, so I'll make it a mix from what I think will happen and what I hope will happen.

In 2021 Satanism is much bigger than it is now, because more people will understand that the down sides of religion are much bigger than the 'up' sides. And accordingly to that, the CoS raises the price of becoming a member and can now be compared to the money making business from the Jehovah witnesses.

Maybe it will hapen like this, and maybe it won't but hey, who knows?
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#47962 - 02/03/11 01:27 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Daafje666]
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I have to agree wtih Daafje666.

An increase in Atheism (and churches are closing down) means a potential increase for Satanism, the occult, black magic, "luciferianism," paganism, devil worships and all associated ways of thinking.

When people become atheists, they then start to open their mind to other philosophies.

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#47969 - 02/03/11 02:29 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Meatl Gear]
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Satanism in ten years. Shit, I really have no idea.

I mean, how can one know? Of course I would like the diabolical infestation to progress and that in ten years more people will come to their senses and drop this silly religious thing for something more secular, but it can just as well become the inverse. Not that I would want that to happen, and I will try my darnest to prevent such a thing to infest my environment.

Seems to me there is only one way to know; Just stick around, do whatever you have to do, and see what happens.
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#47993 - 02/03/11 06:41 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Dutch Satanist]
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While Satanism is to be applauded for taking a look at some significant historical and methodological questions, it should be noted that Satanism underlies the social, economic and political capacities of the world. Rather, Satanism expresses a single motivation which is an exposition of the Self. This is gathered through thought that fulfills the identifiable underlying unity as a contemplative philosophy. In this regard, Satanism is critical of approach.

Satanic thinking is understood and appreciated for its philosophical insight that will endure far beyond when all debates have ceased. Therefore, it is unfair to hold Satanism accountable to beliefs the philosophy does not hold. Moreover, to seek to clarify the nature of modernity and go beyond its constraints and limitations from a different perspective is Satanism in a nut-shell.

It boils down to whether insights penetrate and achieve breakthrough that will carry Satanism further.

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#48011 - 02/03/11 10:56 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: mabon2010]
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I see Satanism spreading exoterically, becoming more and more of a fashion statement for would-be misanthropists eager to flaunt their "personality" in a culturally bankrupt society that champions mediocrity and conformity in the guise of individuality.

So basically now, except magnified exponentially.

I do, however, look forward to the continuous introduction of fascinating new perspectives and practical forms from the "chosen few" who find their own way on the sinister path.

I think a more interesting glance would be 50 years from now, when Satanism will have been publicly active for twice its current age. The face of Satanism is completely different now than it was in the 60s. What will it look like in another half-century when our rapidly-changing society changes beyond even our current expectations? I look forward to reaching a ripe old age just so I can see how Satanism (and civilization as a whole) metamorphoses.
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#48059 - 02/04/11 05:25 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: The Zebu]
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I agree with The Zebu, my current environment already manifests a disrespect for the cultural, social, and economic struggles of various races through the reduction of these significances in the guise of a fashion statement. Just because Prince Harry threw a swastika armband around his arm and went to a costume party didn't make allowances for the weak and socially inept to do the same in the name of fashion. Nonetheless, this is where we are today.

However, Satanism has already began penetrating minority groups and echoing in the ears of those who simply seek authentic representation and refuse to no longer deny the exploration of the other half of their nature. Perhaps celebs will come forward to claim the baphomet. More bars and clubs will specifically be designed for Satanists to go and enjoy their indulgences. People will no more worry about the stigma attached to this 'label' anymore than they do the stigma attached to wearing tattoos. Teenagers will come out in similar fashion of closeted homosexuality and say to their parents, "Mom, Dad, I'm a Satanist."

Slowly, but surely this day dawns.
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#48064 - 02/04/11 06:02 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: mabon2010]
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I don't know or care how Satanism will look in ten years. I'm more concerned with where I will be. And even that is a little hard to predict. I certainly have my aspirations and goals but there is no telling what kind of curve-balls will be thrown my way between now and then.
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#48067 - 02/04/11 06:24 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Satanism, at least the phenomenon represented by that word, is now as it always has been. The difference is now is has been crystallized into language, which has given it a 'thingness' it may have lacked in our culture pre-CoS.

The language used to describe the phenomenon may change over time, as it always has, but the substance being described will continue unimpeded.

That is to say, Satanism is a matter of classifying something that IS, regardless of that classification, not a result of the classification itself. Human nature is what it is, and I can't see a decade changing what several millennia has failed to.

edit - quickreply to OP, not directed at 6.


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#48173 - 02/06/11 01:50 AM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: mabon2010]
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I seem to be on a roll of "recontextualizing" threads recently ...

Asking where Satanism will be in 10 years is unanswerable, because there are so many variations and stages of that term. At the bottom you have simple anti-Judæo/Christianity (such as the C/S was in its first couple of years). Then you have increasingly more sophisticated variations of this, extending beyond religion to society generally, and simultaneously beyond the J/C frame of reference. Also simultaneously you start to get away from mere negativism & criticism, moving more towards the development of a positive philosophy in its own right. [All of this was what the C/S went through en route to 1975. And it wasn't serene & smooth, but a very bumpy ride since we didn't know where we were going and couldn't see the road (indeed most of the time there wasn't one).]

Then of course, as just mentioned in another thread here, at all these levels you have the thinkers/doers, the hero-worshippers/imitators, saints, wackos, and knuckle-draggers. The common thread is not so much an intellectual discovery of & commitment to a philosophy or ideology called "Satanism", but rather - what else can I call it? - an "itch" about it which relentlessly demands to be scratched.

The 600C is a higher-level scratch in 2011 CE, and those of you who are still here in 2021 will have continued to personally evolve, and to comprehend and dialogue this thing-called-Satanism at a similarly-more-sophisticated level. That's easy enough to grok.

Down at the Stage 1 level (basic cartoon anti-J/C, Satanic Bible-waving, ASLV fetishism), people will be just as doofus as they are today or in 1966. Some of them will stay there, others will set out along the road that you have, with success commensurate with their interest, dedication, and aptitude.

I would add only that human society as a mass continues to dumb-down because of the progressive destruction and starvation of educational standards and systems. The brightest and most affluent will still be able to become educated (in the precise sense of that term), but most won't. And in the middle we are developing a weird new class of cyborgs: humans who are being conditioned to think like and on computers. There are all sorts of theories about how this will impact traditional concepts of individualism (which is very much akin to that "Satanic itch").

In my Introduction to The Temple of Set, I likened the Church of Satan's first ten years to L. Frank Baum's gump in The Land of Oz. More recently here to the runaway mine carts in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. I'd say you're all in for another ten years of that, followed by another ten years, followed by another ... Well, at least you won't be bored!
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#48199 - 02/06/11 09:44 AM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Dr. Aquino, didn't you hear? The world won't be here past 2012

You know, I love ya'll but I really worry that sometimes, we as Satanists just....

Think too damn much.

And don't DO anything lol. Maybe we should all quit our days jobs and be professors.

I still don't have a handle on Satanism 10 years BACK to even think about the future. There's still too much for me to learn even on re-reads of TSB.

But your milege may vary.

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#48205 - 02/06/11 11:02 AM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Jake999]
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 Originally Posted By: Jake999
Given that the drugged out, brain dead, self delusional people I see posting absolute bullshit on the web every damned day, unable to use common sense or even the simple apostrophe without screwing up have a snowball's chance in hell of being sterilized, in ten years I see Satanism becoming Christianity light.


Here goes my two cents...
From what I see today I would expect that Satanism in 2021 is pretty much a mix of what Jake999 and Dr. Aquino have said.

Dumbing down of the crowds is combining with an increasingly short-term memory of the society in general.

Did any of you catch that Jay Leno's "jaywalking" when he asked people who was US fighting in WWII? Answers like "France" and "Iraq" might raise some eyebrows. But when he asks people what was Hitler's first name and he gets answers like "Robert", "Timothy" and "I don't know that 's like not my generation" then you really know we are screwed.

I work in the IT / Internet field and I notice things like article aggregating services once had a recommendation that each article submitted should have 500 - 900 words.

Now wherever you go you see they recommend 400-700 words. Some even say "around 400 words".

Shorter attention span + dumbing down + short term memory will be a major influence on most of people and how any idea is presented.

So most Satanist will be the teenager type "f*** the church" crowd who will mostly flock into whatever the latest trend is.

I expect at least one heavy metal band leader to start his own Satanism brand because that can rake in some $$$. I am surprised it hasn't happened already with so many low-level bands out there. Someone like Marilyn Manson will come along and just cash in on the teenagers rebelling about whatever.

The number of Satanists of various denominations who can actually have an intelligent conversation will remain about the same because the Gauss curve percentages of people with certain IQs follow the same numbers for decades now and same goes for the distribution of people in various non-mainstream religions.

In short - more of the same as now + more websites with shorter pages and more showbiz in it \:\)


Edited by LittleNicky (02/06/11 11:04 AM)
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#48216 - 02/06/11 02:01 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: LittleNicky]
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 Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
 Originally Posted By: Jake999
Given that the drugged out, brain dead, self delusional people I see posting absolute bullshit on the web every damned day, unable to use common sense or even the simple apostrophe without screwing up have a snowball's chance in hell of being sterilized, in ten years I see Satanism becoming Christianity light.


Dumbing down of the crowds is combining with an increasingly short-term memory of the society in general.


Forgive my lack of cynicism about the decline of society, but could it be that the plebs were always this dumb, and that the accessibility of cheap information technology simply made it easier for them to broadcast their ignorance in ways that it would previously have taken literacy, wealth, or determination to achieve?

The simpleton has always existed. We just didn't have to hear from him until he could afford a camcorder.
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#48218 - 02/06/11 02:31 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Opacus]
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 Originally Posted By: Opacus
Dr. Aquino, didn't you hear? The world won't be here past 2012

Actually you're 1,011 years too late:

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#48219 - 02/06/11 02:35 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17
... could it be that the plebs were always this dumb?

Absolutely not; there has been definite progress in human social & cultural evolution! Here is undeniable proof:

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#48235 - 02/06/11 05:01 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: XiaoGui17]
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I can only agree with XiaoGui.

I have read studies and watched documentaries that concluded (or even had as a basic premise) that industrialized societies of the 21st Century CE showed an increasing tendency towards the secular. Although this was brought up as a lamentable fact (i.e. "What will happen to our culture and our morality?) some pundits had the unmitigated gall (GASP!) to suggest that religion was the calling card of most unenlightened societies, and that although societal moral norms might see a drop, society as a whole would continue as before.

They didn't reach much further than this, though, since to speculate on the development of an industrial society post-J/C let alone post-religion would be a sublime bit of guesswork.

I'll give it a shot, though. There is a certain breed of Man that is endowed with the ability to lead by example and inspire change on a large scale. It can be through the dissemination of a philosophy that panders to the new set of potential psychological archetypes. It can be through a philosophy of self-improvement that gathers public momentum and acquires social acceptance. It can even be through such insidious means as memetic subversion.

However, this is just my opinion on such a development on an anthropological scale. It is based on the contention that mankind is growing out of a given mold and into another beast entirely. I don't welcome or lament this change, I merely note it. I have no intention of changing to fit a trend or a norm, but I should definitely keep abreast of such changes. It would maximize my chances of success, even though my success is not contingent upon the approval of others. I am no hermit; I need a hunting ground and freedom to continue my work.

What the next few generations will bring is quite probably an increase in general IQ level, as per the Gauss curve, but I predict an increasing devaluation of the value of learning and free thought. Why think in this new society? Why learn anything? There will be few constants. Few causes to make men march. Apatopia, to coin a phrase.

In such a society, Satanism will thrive. Many will feel called. Few will be chosen. The need to conceal one's nature will be ever more important, since the mob is fickle and unforgiving.

So basically, I think Satanism will remain what it has ever been since the year I; a fertile breeding ground for those rare people who are prepared to take on their personal Grail Quest and become what others dare not. For everybody else, it will remain a boogieman of steadily diminishing danger, given that no more asinine teenagers take it upon themselves to sacrifice some poor soul "fore teh geloooooreeee ov Sayyyyy-tannnn!"

I think today's generation will have a ball, though. We're riding the crest of the change, with one foot in the pre-information society and another reaching ahead.

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#48306 - 02/07/11 01:47 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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If I have to base my views about the next ten years of Satanism upon the last ten I observed, I see the majority of it sliding more and more into mediocrity. It will evolve further and further into the cultural gimmick it already is becoming and on average will be populated heavily by pre-teens instead of the teens that flood it now.

On the other hand, the minority in it that doesn't solely use it as that cultural gimmick will grow more and more extreme, not only as a result of disgust upon what they witness but also because in our ever more loving and cuddling societies, extremism is the only logical heterodoxic path.

The stock of cattle after the next decade might be so plentiful, the wolves will suffer a food frenzy.

In ten years, blending in might be hard however since not being fat could already be a major indication of walking on that dreaded path.

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#48332 - 02/07/11 08:13 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Diavolo]
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Satanism in ten years

>Domination of Theistic Satanism--> Numbers game and media
> Collapse of CoS
> New Atheism takes many of the decent players out of modern Satanism
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FOR THE REAL SATANISTS LEFT

> Satanism extends to characterise the world itself through analogical identities (q.v. lucifer principle)
> The world itself embodies more pessimism, skepticism, misanthropic ideals, sarcasm and apathy ---> Translates to the new people calling themselves satanists
> More plural narrative of what is 'Satanic'importation of more relevant eastern texts e.g. The Art of War Tsun Tzu
> 'Stoic' Satanism will arise something like the book of the five rings by Myamoto Musashi
> Retro Satanism trying to be a Lavey purist...
> The entire discourse of occult narrative and identity shifts to narratives so things of the order of Bicameral brain and taking the self as narrative becomes common place. Satan becomes a memetic identity which is analogous to mental tension, friction and colliding worldviews itself. (the battle for discourse)
> Digital Satanism explodes in popularity
> Diabolical Infestation Satanism as art becomes an ideal and many satanists that draw, paint, play music etc try to impinge that upon the culture.
> Fictional depictions of Satanism ??? (would translate it to pop-culture but the work(s) would have to be significant to have any overwhelming effects)



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#48380 - 02/08/11 01:16 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: LittleNicky]
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If the CoS is still around I expect it to be even more stagnant. More high profile members will have left and new yes-men will be recruited to the priesthood without earning any titles.
The ToS seem to be stable but I have to wonder what happens post-Aquino. Many groups have a hard time surviving their leaders and even if Aquino hasn’t been the official head of the temple for years now there will always be opportunists who step forth when the founder (and still probably highest authority in the members eyes) disappear (one reason or another).
In general it seems to me that Satanism in Europe develops more according to its own clock so to speak while American Satanism more often tends to develop or become stagnant in relation to something else (usually LaVeyan Satanism).

 Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
I expect at least one heavy metal band leader to start his own Satanism brand because that can rake in some $$$. I am surprised it hasn't happened already with so many low-level bands out there. Someone like Marilyn Manson will come along and just cash in on the teenagers rebelling about whatever.


Jon Nödtveid – Dissection (Misanthropic Lucifer Order/Temple of the Black Light). I doubt he and his friends at the top of the org ever made any money out of it. They did seem honest and sincere about their beliefs and I think it wasn’t made for profit at all. They were fairly successful in spreading their ideas in the scene as well. Jon himself committed suicide a few years back claiming it was because he had fulfilled all he wanted in this life (thus not ending it because of depression or such). Who knows but himself just before he did it.

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#48394 - 02/08/11 03:09 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: TheInsane]
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Talking about 'Satanism' as if anyone that chooses to participate somehow become of its substance, as most in this thread seem to be doing, misses the mark in my opinion.

That certain type that GETS it and finds it natural isn't going to disappear from the earth, and those that don't will always outnumber them. That is to say, what is done under the waving banner of Satanism doesn't mean shit.

Satanism isn't going anywhere. The way in which the followers try to cram themselves into the devils suit does not change the fact that there will always be those that fit into it comfortably.
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#48401 - 02/08/11 04:16 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Dan_Dread]
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To me Satanism has always been a descriptive, rather than a prescriptive philosophy. It is on occasion represented as being prescriptive, and that is in part down to the pseudo-religious construct LaVey employed in its codification. People are used to religions being prescriptive and seem to heap Satanism onto the prescriptive band wagon.

After all, when many read the Satanic sins some clearly assume they're prescribing things to be avoided (when for the most part they are unavoidable. If you're stupid, you're fucking stupid). It's rather a description of what will piss a certain type of person off, or will be found to be unacceptable by a certain type of person.

LaVey may have packaged it in a suitable counter cultural zeal for the heavy anti-religious sentiment of the late 60s, but he is describing a current that was active long before he wrote about it. A type of individual, a type of critical thought. An approach to life. Anyone following his word (or anyone else's for that matter) isn't exactly representing Satanism. Rather the book describes a certain type of person in my view. You either are that kind of person or you're not.

So the question is, more, where will the Satanic community be in 10 years? My answer is, what fucking community? The CoS, the ONA, and the ToS are the only truly coherent Satanic communities, and even they're about as coherent as a drunken game of chess. Short of a complete collapse of Christianity in the last remaining super power, which is unlikely to take place in the next ten years, there will still be an appeal to a certain type of person in rejecting Christianity manifestly through a label. It will still remain counter cultural to do so and so the type of people the philosophy describes will innately flock to that banner, along with any number of pretenders and wannabes.

I'd imagine with the upsurge of the internet, more people will have their brain melted by ONA, and other similar texts that frankly aren't for the mentally damaged and we'll see a resultant upsurge in internet pretenders, and aside from that life will go on much as normal.

The fact is, without a forum to post on, Satanism would be a largely individual path. The fact is, outside of major cities, and even in major cities, there aren't a huge number of Satanists because it's a way of looking at the world that is innately quite isolating and innately limiting (in the sense not many people think that way). Like having a high IQ, your peer group tends to be quite small by definition. One would assume that would continue also.

Basically ten years form now, I'd imagine Satanism would be much as what it's been for the last 45 years or so. A backwater, fringe group of fierce individuals, surrounded by a rabble of hangers on, communicating rarely and living lives quite independent of their forum identities, communicating via the internet in whatever form is most prevalent. I'm sure a lot more people will call themselves 'Satanists' as general discontent with the postmodern age grows, but the number of true Satanists out there, the ones described by, rather than attempting to conform to the philosophy will always represent a staggeringly small quantity of the population.


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#48516 - 02/09/11 07:13 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: MindFux]
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So the question is, more, where will the Satanic community be in 10 years? My answer is, what fucking community? The CoS, the ONA, and the ToS are the only truly coherent Satanic communities, and even they're about as coherent as a drunken game of chess.


Satanism and Setism work has been produced in more recent years (over the past 50 years) and may be viewed independent from debate. Unlike other religions who have not been forthcoming with an apology (?), Satanism and Setism work was after the world war period.

In fact, quite the opposite approach can be seen through the collection of writings that emphasize genuine intra- and inter- Self dialogue to pursue the underlying thread of religio-cultural, epistemic-philosophical perspectives. Furthermore, the worldview already diagnosed in the west by Nietzsche, Sartre and Camus deserves uncompromising mention.

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#48761 - 02/12/11 03:50 PM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Well, this topic was about what Satanism would look like in the future. I am one who believes that not everyone who claims the title is worthy of it. At the same time I dont believe the shapes Satanism takes will be the same throughout time. It will always be steeped in signs of the times.

We cant really predict anything about individual satanists. We can however predict something about groups that are to be considered Satanic in one way or another. That is how I understand the topic of this thread.

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#48776 - 02/13/11 03:05 AM Re: Satanism 10 years forward [Re: TheInsane]
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Well I kind of have to go with what 6 was saying in that if we all look out for ourselves and stand up for our own personal freedoms I think we'll be ok. Noone can judge for the masses because mostly noone has a voice and will speak it. If everyone is proud of who they are and becomes more vocal about it then maybe, just maybe it will make a difference. If all the individuals stand up for their own beliefs and stick to their guns we could have something but usually it always gets shot down. Our freedom to say or do as we please that is.
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