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#49235 - 02/20/11 02:58 PM Re: Looking round.. [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
Morgan Offline
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Enough with the one line posts people.

The FSC website is up, I just googled it. Why don't you try that?

Joining an organization doesn't make you any more of a Satanist than if you don't.

If you feel the deep need to belong to something, it's sunday, walk into any church. I am sure they will welcome you into their little group.

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#49244 - 02/20/11 04:46 PM Re: Looking round.. [Re: felixgarnet]
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 Originally Posted By: felixgarnet

So far as Crowley's Thelema being essentially "Satanic" I could debate that till the cows have not only come home but had supper, changed into their pyjamas and climbed into bed. As I have neither the time nor the inclination to do so here, I would respectfully suggest you read as much as you can on this Forum and get a feel of what it is members are about. The Left Hand Path is essentially one followed in isolation, even from those we may acknowledge as peers. My best wishes with that!


Very sound advice. Crowley's brand of Thelema differs from Satanism in many ways, the major one being its Christian-Rosicrucian theism. And while they say an Atheist can be a Thelemite, once you become initiated you are expected to believe as they do, perform repetitive rituals on a daily basis, and propagate 'The Law of Thelema'. And in spite of the law being 'Do what thou wilt' members are constrained to follow the rules of the order, some of which were obviously put in place to extract the maximum amount of membership dues from the aspiring clergy of the EGC.

Regardless of Crowley's vision for the OTO, it has mutated into a tax exempt, religious order that is not much different from any other 501-3c tax exempt church (charity). And as such, its only purpose is to perform the Gnostic Mass. While the Mass, usually performed with a naked Priestess on the Altar, is cool to see, it is blatantly being used as a recruiting tool to make up the endless revolving door of Minervaals (0 degree - welcome guest). Why is it a revolving door, you may ask? Because once a person is initiated into the Minerval degree they find out that the OTO is strictly a social order. They have no system of teaching like the Golden Dawn, nor do they do a whole lot of ritual other than the Mass, yet they dangle this carrot of occult knowledge in front of your nose so you will pay for the next initiation, then the next.... Most Minervals either lose interest or catch on to the way things are and don't go any further.

You are better off putting all the money you would have spent on initiations and dues into books and educating yourself.



Edited by LucyFur (02/20/11 05:18 PM)
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#49247 - 02/20/11 05:01 PM Re: Looking round.. [Re: lightlight]
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 Originally Posted By: lightlight

but i need to find other people with this kind of mind set. i've tried to recruit some friends but they are either too lazy or too stupid. taking the initiative to be a satanist wouldm entail you aren't either


One of the members of my private temple started a Meet-Up group for local LHP seekers. This Meet-up site is becoming popular as more people are learning of it and joining various groups that meet face to face.

http://www.meetup.com/
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#49249 - 02/20/11 05:10 PM Re: Looking round.. [Re: The Zebu]
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 Originally Posted By: The Zebu


But above all, Satanism is an individual approach to life, and community as such should be viewed as little more than social networking and maybe meeting a few good comrades. There is no ideological meta-tribe like Christianity or Judaism. There is your will, and your will alone.



Very good point! Satanists are not 'herd' or 'pack' animals who blindly follow others. As such, it is always a treat to meet a local Satanist as we are few and far between; and it's an even bigger thrill to find another whose will it is to open his temple to another so that they may work together on occasion.

Here in the Bible Belt I never take such an occasion for granted.
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#49611 - 02/24/11 11:57 PM Re: Looking round.. [Re: Morgan]
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i don't give a fuck about being more of a satanist
learning on my own has lead me to the occult. now i want to join an order and, more importantly, i want people into the occult/magick/spirituality to be a part of my life

i feel like i know something. i want to know more and i want to share it with certain people to take it further

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#49615 - 02/25/11 12:15 AM Re: Looking round.. [Re: lightlight]
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I haven't read through this whole thread but have you thought of masonry?

They do a lot of charity work. They like building new hospitals or churches and stuff. They donate a lot to healthcare. Like the shriners.. they're a part of it (don't ask me how). 'War Amps'.

They have lodges. They're public buildings you can go to them. Many masons are public you can ask them about masonry and they'll tell you about it. You get to enjoy the company of a large group of people.

If you're looking for PEOPLE this is probably your bag. But you must be good natured and ready to deal with people and a lot of people can't do that. You also should be able to contribute and participate.
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#50045 - 02/27/11 07:18 PM Re: Looking round.. [Re: TrollovGrimness]
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i actually used to want to be a mason..but i think you're right. i might as well join. i messaged the temple in oakland and got invited by the temple in alameda (smaller, quiter city) and the average age was like 72 so i didn't want to join....i'm now thinking i'll join and see if some other temples are different. and the connections i'd make in there would probably be better anyway

but you're taking me the wrong way. i'm not looking for friends, i'm looking for people to recruit pretty much
Satanism seems like a thing that self respecting, smart, and most importantly 'cool' people would be.
i'm not looking to recruit dungeon dwellers
i'm pretty fucking good looking myself

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#50049 - 02/27/11 08:07 PM Re: Looking round.. [Re: lightlight]
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 Originally Posted By: lightlight
but you're taking me the wrong way. i'm not looking for friends, i'm looking for people to recruit pretty much
Satanism seems like a thing that self respecting, smart, and most importantly 'cool' people would be.
i'm not looking to recruit dungeon dwellers
i'm pretty fucking good looking myself

So in 14 days you went from wanting to get into Satanism to you are now looking to recruit. Recruit for what, what do YOU have to offer anyone?

I doubt you will find any/many followers here.

Good luck
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Edited by ta2zz (02/27/11 08:08 PM)
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