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#49347 - 02/22/11 01:26 AM Re: Curse [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias
Coincidentally when I was 15 I beat a man who had cancer and he died of a ruptured artery. He was not cursed by me personally or anything, he was just a cunt (to my mother) if you count that as being cursed.


LOL! So maybe the guy I cursed got cancer because he was a cunt! Or maybe he willed it on himself because he knew he was a cunt! \:D

Thanks Woland for the link. I will check it out.
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#49363 - 02/22/11 07:18 AM Re: Curse [Re: William Wright]
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 Originally Posted By: William Wright
How old was the ďvictimĒ? Was he a tobacco user? If so, how long had he been a user and how often had he used? Did he have a family history of cancer?


Did he suck dick on a regular basis?

 Originally Posted By: William Wright
Although it seems a bit of a stretch to suggest that electromagnetic energy might have something to do with cancer following the command to inhabit someone, I will admit that there is much that we do not know about how the world works. That said, I have no desire to merely wish good or ill of someone and hope the universe complies. If I want something done, I roll up my sleeves and work toward making it happen.


^^This. Two hands at work will accomplish more, guaranteed, than two at prayer or two shooting waves of malevolence in someone's general direction.

I have to give LucyFur credit for getting an attorney and following the advice she was given. That shows that she's not just the "light some black candles in the basement and hope this happens" type. ;\)
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#49428 - 02/22/11 11:48 PM Re: Curse [Re: XiaoGui17]
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Thanks XiaoGui17!

Actually, that situation grew into an ugly one indeed. And I was glad I had the good sense to hire a lawyer. It happened 1999, right after the Columbine killings. My eldest son was a computer whiz who enjoyed hacking and building websites with his hacker friends. He built a cheesy little site that was a parody of his high school Carmel High School (CHS). He called it Come Hail Satan and adorned it with flaming pentagrams and silly gossip about the teachers. Although there were no threats made on his site, 3 of the teachers freaked out when they discovered it, and blew it all out of proportion. I got phones calls from the school demanding to know if I were a Christian or a devil worshiper and when I refused to answer them they assumed that we were all building bombs and sacrificing babies in the basement.

It was a harmless prank that got blown out of proportion to the point where the 3 teachers tried to get my son arrested and filed a lawsuit against us. They ambushed us by calling a press conference to announce the lawsuit and that is when the death threats started. That is also when the New York Times called because no student had ever been sued by a teacher before. My son was 15 years old at the time and I had to send him far away to protect him from the fundie Christian wackos who were out for blood.

Next thing I knew John Stossel called me and asked for an interview. I didn't want to do it but the teachers had already consented to it and you know every unopposed lie becomes truth when repeated enough times, especially in the press, so I took advantage of the opportunity to tell it how it really was. I know this all sounds utterly insane but this story can be confirmed here, about halfway down the page:

http://www.splc.org/news/report_detail.asp?id=528&edition=3

We were featured on one of John Stossel's 'Give Me a Brake!" programs on the subject of civil liberties and he made the teachers look like the stupid child-hating bitches they truly were. I have the episode on DVD and should upload it somewhere so people can see it. The whole show is good as Stossel pointed out a lot of people whose right to free speech had been violated.

The whole experience changed us all, of course. But for the record, I was too busy defending my son and staying one step ahead of his persecutors to light any candles or do any rituals. The legal system here in Indiana is beyond draconian. The douche-bag prosecutor put my kid on probation without so much as a hearing. I got a letter from them telling me to bring him to the probation office to get fingerprinted and fill out the paperwork! Naturally, the only people they saw were me and my lawyer asking them WTF????

In this state they will fuck you up if you don't have a lawyer.
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#49433 - 02/23/11 12:48 AM Re: Curse [Re: LucyFur]
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Iím familiar with Carmel; itís a suburb of Indianapolis. I grew up about ninety minutes northeast of Indy in the town of Marion. I donít know if youíve heard about it. Its claim to fame is a streak of high school basketball championships in the Ď80ís...well, that and an unfortunate lynching incident in the early 1900ís. Iím quite familiar with their Bible Belt mentality. If my parents had known about your sonís incident, they wouldíve been standing right there with the other Christian wackos.

Listen, you seem like a pretty cool mom. I respect you standing up for your kid like that. I hope youíll continue posting here for a while. Iím curious to see what else you have to say. Take care.
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#49465 - 02/23/11 03:42 PM Re: Curse [Re: William Wright]
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Thank you William. Yes, I am familiar with Marion, IN. Ironic that the only person I knew from there was a Satanist! LOL!

Funny too, how my neighbors acted. At the time my other two sons were about 3 and 5 years old, and the neighbors across the street wouldn't allow son to play with ours after that. I guess they were afraid their kid might be contaminated with Satanic smooge or something. \:D

Anyway, things worked out for my son, but only because they couldn't get their Bible thumping hands on him. I used their fears against them and went to the prosecutor's office with two attorneys. One used to work for the ACLU and the other, his partner, was a large African American gentleman who scared the piss out of those racist pigs when he walked into the room. It was he who convinced them to drop the bogus criminal charges.

Throughout, they tried to get me to tell them where my son was but I wouldn't even tell Stossel, let alone any of those wackos. In the end, the judge kicked the whole matter over to a mediator and we settled. The teachers got a whopping $5000.00 to split between the 3 of them to 'offset' the $90,000.00 they spent on legal fees!

My lawyers were so pissed off about a kid being sued for asserting his First Amendment rights, they volunteered to defend us for free, so it literally cost us no money as someone else stepped in and paid the $5000.00 for us. I am not allowed to say who, but suffice it to say there are a lot of people out there who believe in free speech and they wanted to help us out.

While the whole experience was hell, some good things came out of it. My son got several good job offers and one good project led to another until eventually he started his own company, then another... He is 29 years old now and making more money in a month than those dumbass teachers make in a year!

I thought about sending them a thank you note for jump starting my kid's career and helping him achieve the success most people only dream about.....!

Yes, it's true - Living well IS the best revenge.
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#49597 - 02/24/11 10:00 PM Re: Curse [Re: LucyFur]
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You know, itís funny. I had an experience similar to yours. In my case, there was a boss that I absolutely hated. I was toying with the idea of Satanism, and in a heated moment I said to myself over and over, ďI curse you.Ē I could hardly think straight, I was so overcome with the desire to curse this woman. Some time passed, and I left that job and found another line of work. I spoke to a former coworker from that place and was told that the boss had lost her job and her baby (she had been pregnant).

Did my curse work? I hope not. As angry as I was at my boss, I didnít want her to lose her baby. That baby was an innocent. Furthermore, I now see the boss more as challenging me than anything else. She had the guts to call me on my stupid bullshit, but instead of rising to the challenge I shifted the blame onto her.

The bottom line: Iím not a big fan of curses, real or perceived, because they are other-focused. Retribution certainly has its place, but does it really help me if someone else is suffering? More often than not, Iíd say no. Enemies are a dime a dozen. Numero Uno is what really matters.
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#49704 - 02/25/11 02:49 PM Re: Curse [Re: Hegesias]
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In contrast, and as funny as it sounds, my curses are altruistic. The violent intent stems from hatred, hatred which although is primordial in origin, is catalysed and given direction by ignoble scum and their vulgar displays of power which I may observe as quite fitting for revenge.
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#49836 - 02/26/11 07:47 AM Re: Curse [Re: Hegesias]
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Hegesius, I'm intrigued by the idea that your curses are altruistic. Your second sentence didn't seem to support that idea, at least not in a way that I understood. Please expound a bit. How do your curses benefit others?
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#49840 - 02/26/11 08:12 AM Re: Curse [Re: William Wright]
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Well, some people are just oxygen thieves aren't they.

Naa, I mean't that sometimes somebody will be a possible threat to a close one so you curse them obsessively.

This does two things:

1. they find out and confront you at YOUR house and threaten violence. (the law is clear about this)

2. They die of a 'accident' on the way because this is how you have seen the curse through. (I don't know if he was on his way here but he would have got a plastic bag over his head and a hammer in his skull anyway).

Why is this altruistic? Think about what can catalyse your own hatred, do you have empathy for females, does it stir your gut when they are in danger or upset?

Quite a few times I've knocked the fuck out of abusive men throwing their weight around women, I just grew up in those environments and have 'a thing' about bashing the spirit out of a man, it's a calculated art now where I make some good dialogue afterwards (my own father was quite funny I blinded one of his eyes and was making him laugh because he was terrified and thinking it would save him or something). But these days I like to culminate this capacity for violence against males and seethe with this flow once I spot any 'behaviour'.

So, by altruistic I mean when your mind goes black and you just keep hitting a man without any thought of what will happen to you personally. This happens when you see a female being hurt. You don't care about yourself. I prefer curses these days because I rather dislike being on trial. I lost over a year and I'll be fucked if I get banged up for snuffing an insect.
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#49958 - 02/26/11 10:25 PM Re: Curse [Re: Hegesias]
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Hegesias, we clearly come from different worlds. Whether by nature or nurture (probably both), you possess a violent streak that I canít completely relate to. Donít get me wrong: If my wife or daughter were attacked, Iím confident that Iíd put my life on the line to save them. However, I donít get off on raining hellfire down on others, even when they deserve it. Iím not saying Iím right and youíre wrong or that Iím better than you. Iím just saying weíre different.

I understand now what you mean by curses being altruistic. Itís akin to the idea that sometimes war is necessary to preserve the greater good. In your example the greater good is innocent females. Like you, I detest bullies. It bothers me when I see comedies that present bullying in a light manner. But the fact is itís not my job to save the world. As much as Iíd like life to be fair, it just isnít. So I go about my business, helping loved ones to a reasonable extent but mainly focusing on improving my life.

If curses get you through the day, then by all means curse. Whatever works.
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