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#49515 - 02/24/11 10:40 AM For the record . . .
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I'll post this here simply because I've said it, and I'm always to the face . . .

 Originally Posted By: Jason King
I don't know about the "quality of content" seeing as how I've only been on 600 for a couple of months. What I *do* know is that on 600 there are about 3-4 "visionaries" and about twice that number of "smart cookies". It makes for a dialogue of mausoleal (just coined by JK, all royalties on future use are reserved) proportions. And I don't care what anyone says, you *can* split an adjectival phrase with a parenthetical and people won't lose track.

Here on SIN, the content is fresh, the faces real, and the difference between "blue" and "white" is nonexistent. 600 is a black and white TV — sure it's good for the sharpness of contrast and nostalgic feel, it was surpassed as a model a long time ago. The color TV, and lately, the digital multimedia network have gone waaaaaaaay beyond these things. "Smart cookies"? Yeah we have those too. "Visionaries"? Of course. But ours are better guaranteed. I'd take a Beast Xeno+Ego Diabolus over a Jake999 and 6Satan6Archist6 any day of the week, and there wouldn't even be a twinge of a second thought.

But the real difference lies in the *others*, as the "familiar faces" of SIN tend to be real individuals, if you know what I mean. I guess there is something to be said for that whole cross-networking thing after all. I'll take a BoboBad over a Dimitri every single time — one is simply more real than the other.

Sure, 600 has it's draws, no question about it. But the best of these is still little more than a tired warhorse running his victory lap. Here on SIN, we have yet to meet the gaze of Medusa, if you will. The really brightest of us are actually members of both sites, but the "where we post what" thing is so telling. These are the same that understand the I in SIN has an occulted meaning as "Independent".

Ultimately, only time will tell which, if either of these media, has passed the test. So far 600 has stood the test of time in a way that SIN can only aspire to. In this I agree with DD. But I also read dem tea leaves purty darn good… .

JK


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#49517 - 02/24/11 11:22 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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It’s an opinion and you are entitled to it.
Some prefer the newest gadgets, others prefer ones with a reliable and proven history.
I happen to think black and white TV’s are great.
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#49520 - 02/24/11 11:46 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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You are, of course, welcome to your opinion. I personally find this kind of public out calling of specific individuals a bit on the juvenile side, but that really is one major difference between 600 and SIN... we tend to be a bit on the older side and the general 'flavor' of the place reflects that.

As for the format being 'surpassed' ... I've always drawn a hard line between what is 'networking' and what is 'forum'. Personally speaking, I'm not looking to make personal connections of any kind beyond that available on the forums. I have as many friends as I can handle in my daily life, I don't need any added complications by way of online friends etc. The purpose for going to a forum versus going to a social networking site are different (or should be).

I have nothing against SIN. It's simply not the format that I most enjoy partaking in. I have no doubt there are sharp minds there but honestly the amount of bitch fighting, personal entanglements, and everything else that takes away from the focus is too off putting for me.

We have many 'real' individuals here with real life experience beyond Satanism that have shaped them into what they are. Give me a Jake999 (who you called out) who is a proven success in mastering life any day over 500 kids who've just discovered they might be 'Satinists'. Give me a 6, who works hard everyday in accomplishing actual goals in the real world over anyone I encountered during my short time at SIN. I doubt you know the quality of folk you do encounter here, white/blue/green, because you seem more interested in pushing your agenda than you do in taking any time to process what others are saying (or you are quick to discard it).

It's all good though. If we're too 'old' for you, too black and white, too whatever else you're babbling about then don't post here, it's not a requirement. SIN isn't for me, so I don't post and/or participate there. It isn't hard.
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#49529 - 02/24/11 12:32 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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It was nice knowing you King. Good luck on your path.

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#49533 - 02/24/11 01:15 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Fnord]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord
a bit on the juvenile side, but that really is one major difference between 600 and SIN... we tend to be a bit on the older side and the general 'flavor' of the place reflects that.


The future is written with the power and blood of youth. THIS is Satanism, the very essence thereof. The young lioness taking her rightful place in the pride.


 Originally Posted By: Fnord
I have as many friends as I can handle in my daily life, I don't need any added complications by way of online friends etc.


And yet here you are, making "online friends". I keep telling Jorge that even though it may be rare, autofail actually does exist. But anyway . . .

 Originally Posted By: Fnord
The purpose for going to a forum versus going to a social networking site are different (or should be).


indeed, they are not. Regardless of whether we realize it, we are where we are (in each and every exchange) because we value holism. Anton's third "sin" was solipsism, and it is the nadir of this very virtue.

 Originally Posted By: Fnord
I have nothing against SIN. It's simply not the format that I most enjoy partaking in. I have no doubt there are sharp minds there but honestly the amount of bitch fighting, personal entanglements, and everything else that takes away from the focus is too off putting for me.


Those undesirable elements occur everywhere. Perhaps you are unaware of them here, but nevertheless, they persist. Where SIN differs is not among these transient things (e.g. "it looks shiny in the moonlight"), but rather in the richness and realness of personality.

 Originally Posted By: Fnord
We have many 'real' individuals here with real life experience beyond Satanism that have shaped them into what they are. Give me a Jake999 (who you called out) who is a proven success in mastering life any day over 500 kids . . .


Not sure if you know this, but the two names I gave are anything but "kids". And if either chooses to let you know, it ain't gonna be pretty.

 Originally Posted By: Fnord
you seem more interested in pushing your agenda than you do in taking any time to process what others are saying (or you are quick to discard it).


Someone who pretends to know the nature of my "agenda" should surely be able to put it on the table . . .

 Originally Posted By: Fnord
It's all good though. If we're too 'old' for you, too black and white, too whatever else you're babbling about then don't post here, it's not a requirement. SIN isn't for me, so I don't post and/or participate there. It isn't hard.


Always the same rejoinder. I'd say "sad," but I would probably be meaning "pathetic". If you don't like it here . . .

Let me tell you a bit about "here" - the place inhabited by the conscious mind is a true Heraclitan Flux, and also the anatman of the Buddhists. I am where I am, and I will always roll JK style.

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#49534 - 02/24/11 01:17 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
It was nice knowing you King. Good luck on your path.

D.


You say this why?

I'll get fired long before I quit. Mark that.

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#49535 - 02/24/11 01:22 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord
As for the format being 'surpassed' ... I've always drawn a hard line between what is 'networking' and what is 'forum'.


I am going to have to agree with you on there being a hard line between the two. A forum is simply a place to discuss subjects of public interest. As I’ve come to know forums on the Internet, they all bare some similarity to a network. See a network also exists to discuss subjects of public interest, but unlike a forum; it offers a venue for people to work together to actually accomplish things. Waxing lyrically to some novelty of stratification of ideas is all fine and dandy, but actually being able to do something with those ideas is the proof of the pudding.

 Originally Posted By: Fnord

We have many 'real' individuals here with real life experience beyond Satanism that have shaped them into what they are. Give me a Jake999 (who you called out) who is a proven success in mastering life any day over 500 kids who've just discovered they might be 'Satinists'. Give me a 6, who works hard everyday in accomplishing actual goals in the real world over anyone I encountered during my short time at SIN.


I know you cannot seriously be saying this with a straight face. The irony of that would be monumental. You say there are ‘real’ individuals here? What exactly is your measure of ‘real’? Jason King contrasted Jake999 with myself and Jason Sorrell. I won’t bother talking about myself here. What I will say is this; Jason Sorrell isn’t just a “kid who has just discovered they might be ‘Satinists’ “, rather he is very accomplished. You see not only is he a very talented author, artist, and businessman; he is a very public figure doing his thing to manifest within the zeitgeist. He is not hiding behind some silly handle and phony avatar, he puts his REAL name and location out there. With Jason Sorrell, you get what you see period.

No disrespect to Jake999 as, I really haven’t much of a clue who he is. I only have encountered him in a few instances. I know he does something with the whole Dark Ryde Radio thing, and I’ve heard rumors that he once was LaVey’s hired muscle. However all of this serves to illustrate my point to a fault. A ‘real’ individual is just that, someone REAL. They aren’t hiding out on some archaic forum brow-beating every idea that offends them.
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#49536 - 02/24/11 01:25 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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Because I find your views interesting and wouldn't mind if you contributed more here. The fact that you prefer SIN above the club doesn't bother me; that's your choice. It doesn't change the fact that I find you likable, even in your very own often unlikable way.

I don't know if you'll get fired, I'd maybe suggest you'd better not burn bridges but then again, often that is exactly what we must do.

D.

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#49537 - 02/24/11 01:30 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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What is the point of this thread?

Did you make it because you are truly "face to face" or did you do it because you wanted to stir the proverbial pot of shit?
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#49540 - 02/24/11 01:35 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Damn. Someone who doesn't know me... I'm crushed. Really.

Marking the date on the calendar... another day not to really care.
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#49541 - 02/24/11 01:38 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jake999]
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Hey, waitaminit - this isn't cross-over from the infiltration and surveillance thread, is it?

Holy shit, they are watching me!!!
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#49542 - 02/24/11 01:42 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Beast Xeno]
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Relax, I wasn't referring to you or Sorrell.

I was defending the two that JK called out as inferior and comparing them to the mass traffic on SIN of new folks who aren't yet grounded in the philosophy. I've already told you that I appreciate your efforts and listen to your show.

The rest of this is just troll bait.
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#49543 - 02/24/11 01:43 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
The fact that you prefer SIN above the club doesn't bother me; that's your choice. It doesn't change the fact that I find you likable, even in your very own often unlikable way.


Truth be told, I came here for Aquino. That, by now, is common knowledge. I stayed, despite his disappointing me to all hell, because of YOU. And Zebu. And Autodidact. And believe it or not, Fnord. And Morgan.

This might seem like name-dropping, but it's really just me droppin' names. Of the people I enjoy here. Cool thing about being JK is that even though you can be fired, at the end of the day, you're still the King.

JK
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#49544 - 02/24/11 01:49 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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I appreciate the mentioning. Know that should the King have left the building, from somewhere in the shadows, I'll be watching you with interest. As I did for a long time.

D.

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#49546 - 02/24/11 01:56 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
What is the point of this thread?

Did you make it because you are truly "face to face" or did you do it because you wanted to stir the proverbial pot of shit?



Probably both, but who knows?

The "point" of this thread is the simple fact that my OP was posted elsewhere, and I believe in blatancy, for lack of a better word. If I'm going to mention 600 and certain people thereupon, I'll give them the courtesy of seeing it firsthand.

We can also let this thread be a test of the butthurt meter if you want. It's up to you. Both of you. All of you.

"If I desired to step back for a second and see the nature of the meta-dialogue, perhaps I could rejoin with force. But no, I seek after petty fraternities despite my boasts to the contrary." - the 600th clown
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#49549 - 02/24/11 02:05 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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Right but do you think anyone cares? I know that I don't. Not that I haven't been "accepted" by you anyway. What I do care about, however, is someone trying to start even more drama.

You can claim that this thread was made for the sake of transparency or whatever other bullshit reasoning you would like. The fact remains that this is obvious baiting on your part.

Butthurt? Absolutely not. You might not be able to see this but not everyone holds you in such high regard as you do.
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#49550 - 02/24/11 02:05 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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I hadn’t heard of “SIN” before this thread, so I’ve bookmarked the site and will look more closely soon. However, my first impressions (and 1st impressions -do- count for something) are somewhat negative. The website’s aesthetics aren’t appealing, and it seems to combine some of the worst elements of both myspace and facebook. And while online exhibitionism seems to be the default for perhaps the second internet generation and forward, I have no interest in posting an actual photograph of myself to the web for the sake of a forum/social network membership. I guess I tend to highly regard the more “occult” and esoteric aspects of The Left Hand Path.

While I certainly understand The 600 Club’s pretty strenuously enforced prohibition against one liners, my only real objection to it is that indeed, brevity is often the soul of wit, and so the 600 Club possibly misses out on the occasional sharp and incisive retort within debates and against the “Dr. Morose’s” who inevitably find their ways here (if only briefly). But if anything SIN appears, upon first glance, to be nearly the opposite: the overall tenor seems to be reflective of most of the internet -- snarky, irreverent, and Twitter-ready.

Still, I’ll be giving the website closer scrutiny soon, in order to form a more complete and accurate impression…

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#49552 - 02/24/11 02:16 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King

The future is written with the power and blood of youth. THIS is Satanism, the very essence thereof. The young lioness taking her rightful place in the pride.


By the by, I see it going off more like this at present time. ;\)
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#49553 - 02/24/11 02:36 PM The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
You might not be able to see this but not everyone holds you in such high regard as you do.


This was actually funny. Jorge's still laughing, so I locked him in the bathroom.

When I rechristened this the Butthurt Thread, I was honestly not expecting so much in the way of whiny butthurt. Given the collective IQ involved (ironically, not that far from the name of the forum), I thought I'd meet with more of a Machiavellian tact. Nevertheless, here you are replying to me by telling me I'm not worthy of even your askance (look it up). The circularity of the fail could not be any more evident, 6.

Better men have tried, yet despite any collateral damage, the King remains. At this point, you may need to call in for that air strike . . .

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#49554 - 02/24/11 02:44 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Jason King]
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I was replying to your obvious attempt at starting (more) shit between here and SIN. Nothing more.

You seem to think you are something special, and anyone who fails to recognize this and stroke your fragile ego is somehow below you. I was just letting you know that not everyone feels the same way.

I've earned the respect of those whose opinions actually matter. So think what you will; I will not be losing any sleep over it.

Edit: I'll save that air-strike for something that actually warrants it. ;\)


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#49555 - 02/24/11 02:49 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Fnord]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord
 Originally Posted By: Jason King

The future is written with the power and blood of youth. THIS is Satanism, the very essence thereof. The young lioness taking her rightful place in the pride.


By the by, I see it going off more like this at present time. ;\)


I'm guessing we have ourselves a double miscommunication here.

I said "future," you said "present". When I employed present tense, I was actually using what they call the "aorist" in Greek and related grammars. Moreover, you mistake the FLS for a simple thing that can be placed in a metaphorical zoo. If it is not a Law properly so-called, then one has no business calling themselves a Satanist.

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#49557 - 02/24/11 02:57 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6

You seem to think you are something special, and anyone who fails to recognize this and stroke your fragile ego is somehow below you. I was just letting you know that not everyone feels the same way.


No, believe it or not, you were engaging in the fine art of projection. I have never gone anywhere and demanded special treatment. And if you can hyperlink otherwise, I might just have to buy you lunch. But seeing as how said hyperlink does not exist, we'll just have to take it for what it is.

Refresher: on this top-heavy forum, I still await rejoinder on the meta-topic. The meta-topic was not JK, even though I end my posts with such. The fact that you made it such speaks more of you than it does of me.

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#49558 - 02/24/11 03:14 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Jason King]
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I never said you were demanding special treatment. What I said was that you seem to think you are something special when in fact you are not. So you wrote a book and made some YouTube videos. Wow, I am so impressed.

Since you accuse me of "projecting" I challenge you to find a post where I demanded special treatment.

There really is nothing more that can be said about your "meta-topic". If you think SIN is so much better then go there. I certainly have no stake in changing your opinion of this place or any other.
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#49559 - 02/24/11 03:23 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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Actually, I was just funnin' with you.

I didn't want you to go off thinking I was too old to have a sense of humor \:\)
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#49565 - 02/24/11 03:36 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
I never said you were demanding special treatment. What I said was that you seem to think you are something special when in fact you are not. So you wrote a book and made some YouTube videos. Wow, I am so impressed.


You should be. But not because I'm good at it, simply because unlike you, I bothered to try.

 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
Since you accuse me of "projecting" I challenge you to find a post where I demanded special treatment.


Projection need not be as direct as this. Often the projection concerns not the self as manifesting, but the self as ineffectual observer. Think about it.

 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
There really is nothing more that can be said about your "meta-topic". If you think SIN is so much better then go there. I certainly have stake in changing your opinion of this place or any other.


I'll copy and paste my reply from above, seeing as how you obviously missed it:

 Originally Posted By: JK
Always the same rejoinder. I'd say "sad," but I would probably be meaning "pathetic". If you don't like it here . . .

Let me tell you a bit about "here" - the place inhabited by the conscious mind is a true Heraclitan Flux, and also the anatman of the Buddhists. I am where I am, and I will always roll JK style.


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#49567 - 02/24/11 03:44 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Jason King]
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This kills me man. You offered a little perspective, hoping to kindle some thought. It was met not with deliberation or discourse, but with snobbery. Sad.
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#49569 - 02/24/11 03:45 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Jason King]
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You should be. But not because I'm good at it, simply because unlike you, I bothered to try.


"Should" be, and yet, I still am not. I have no desire, at present, to do anything like that. I am much too busy doing other things.

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Projection need not be as direct as this. Often the projection concerns not the self as manifesting, but the self as ineffectual observer. Think about it.


Well that is a long winded way of saying "I can't".

What is "sad", or, "pathetic" is that you keep hearing the same thing and it still hasn't sunk in.
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#49570 - 02/24/11 03:54 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Jason King]
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Okay, let's get back on this one then... and let's do it honestly.

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Always the same rejoinder. I'd say "sad," but I would probably be meaning "pathetic". If you don't like it here . . .


That was actually a query about your motivation but you appear to have taken it to mean that I was suggesting that you take your leave.

You stated that 600 is archaic, the members are akin to broken down warhorses or something to that effect and that the members of SIN are 'better' and so forth.

Personally, I've found many a forum to be lacking and I simply stop my activity there. I've never felt a need to go to that forum and say my place is better than your place and here's why. It just never occurred to me to do so.

In my mind, this perhaps speaks to some axe that you have to grind with the 600, or that you are simply trying to be adversarial. The former would represent butthurt, the latter could represent many-a-thing.

To clear the air, so to speak, I like your book and I like your videos, and I think you have much to offer, and I've enjoyed playing footsie with you on occasion (like now). I think you show strong signs of being able to be what you call 'the next' but I think that right now your ego and sometimes confrontational style is winning you as many enemies as it is friends. That may be your design, who am I to say? I only calls 'em as I sees 'em.

My final post on this thread is that I personally think posting it here (and there) was a bitch move.

Still, that's only my opinion.
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#49571 - 02/24/11 03:57 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Beast Xeno]
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 Originally Posted By: Beast Xeno
This kills me man. You offered a little perspective, hoping to kindle some thought. It was met not with deliberation or discourse, but with snobbery. Sad.


I think JK was hoping to make a point not kindle thought. I think some of the responses to his post made his point better than anything he could have said.

As to why he wanted to make the point (that the600club is inherently fairly elitist based on presumed superiority from others in the 'Satanic Community', which doesn't strike me as that incongruous), I have no idea.

If someone from the 600 club came to SIN and eloquently stated, "you're all too young and immature", a certain % of the replies would prove that assertion right also, so what's the point of making this point? To prove that people are sensitive to their perceived weaknesses? I'd like to think this was more than the continuation of a slagging match or a hot seat grab by JK, but I'm unconvinced.



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#49575 - 02/24/11 04:36 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: MindFux]
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 Originally Posted By: MindFux

If someone from the 600 club came to SIN and eloquently stated, "you're all too young and immature", a certain % of the replies would prove that assertion right also, so what's the point of making this point? To prove that people are sensitive to their perceived weaknesses?


I think it stems from an honest difference of opinion (damn, I wasn't going to post anymore on this thread).

Let's take the lion example from above. There is no doubt that the younger lion will eventually over power the older lion and that the older lion must make room (albeit unwillingly) for the young to do so.

My point is, and always has been, that both are still lions. The young lion does not strip the core from the old lion and then become something other than a lion. It can, however, become a lion with a different personality.

Satanism is this way. It has a core that is undeniable and ancient. If the young mold it into something too much of their own making then they are no longer carrying Satanism forward. They are creating something new and distinctly different. This isn't to say that it can't have multitudes of personalities as, undeniably, it can (and does).

If this view makes me archaic to you, or to JK, or to SIN at large, then I will own that. I don't see it as a weakness.

Also for the record, I don't know anyone here who is 'elitist'. Other folks call us that, but we don't go around telling each other how great we think we are. What you see on the boards is what you get. Folks can either argue/support their points or they cannot. No one gets preferential treatment, white, blue, green or red.
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#49577 - 02/24/11 04:45 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Fnord]
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Many a Satanic network and forum have come and gone within the lifespan of 600, and many more will yet. I'm sure many of them felt their network/site would be the penultimate one to stand the test of time.

Yet they are all gone, and here we still are.

Will SIN prove itself something special? Who knows. I enjoy that place, but to be honest without the tinychat it is just another mediocre forum.
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#49582 - 02/24/11 04:56 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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Jason, you came here and from the very start you were self – promoting and looking to get the same sort of adulation or favourable reaction you had and have received at the MCOS and SIN.

Hey look I can understand, everybody wants to dominate and shape others thinking if they can.

The problem is that this place, in my view, doesn’t roll that way. The people here are too strong to be dominated in such a way. They just won’t lay down and automatically recognise your genius, particularly if they have earned the right to wear the blue, green or red.

I think mentioning Jake and 6 was inappropriate. Those gents do not have to justify themselves here. I value knowledge, experience and results over youth and revolutionary intentions and when it comes to experience and knowledge Jake is The King.

I also find it inappropriate that you have made this a SIN versus 600 Club battle when this is really about something else. I actually like SIN and enjoy reading the posts there. There are a lot of sharp people at SIN.

Anyway, good luck to you.

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#49588 - 02/24/11 06:02 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Fnord]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord
Satanism is this way. It has a core that is undeniable and ancient. If the young mold it into something too much of their own making then they are no longer carrying Satanism forward. They are creating something new and distinctly different. This isn't to say that it can't have multitudes of personalities as, undeniably, it can (and does).


I think it is the duty of the young to attack the old, question or reject it, and aspire something new. Through that, everything keeps evolving and hopefully, improving. Of course the old won't always like this but the old should not settle for the familiar, or the comfortable, but attempt to keep a young mind, remaining a child, and adapt according the changes. In remaining a child and keep changing/learning as our world changes, lies the real value of living.

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#49589 - 02/24/11 06:39 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Diavolo]
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Also, isn't it like Science in a way?

For example, we can say that all of these new generation theoretical physicists and quantum physicists with their new ideas and mathematical equations will - are - changing Newtonian Physics, Cosmology, and Science as we KNEW it.

But have those new generation physicist really changed science into something different or something else? Have they really changed Science, or just the understandings of fields and disciplines and theories in and of science. That should - must - change.

Is Satanism a static phenomenon where a new generation must keep it the same shape and form as they have gotten it from the older generations? Or else it changes into something different?


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#49590 - 02/24/11 07:42 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: MatthewJ1


I also find it inappropriate that you have made this a SIN versus 600 Club battle when this is really about something else. I actually like SIN and enjoy reading the posts there. There are a lot of sharp people at SIN.

Anyway, good luck to you.




I have to agree with Mathew here. Why create a false rivalry between SIN and 600 Club? There seems to be plenty of everything on the internet. If one forum or social network does not suit you, why create a bunch of needless drama about it? This is what I think of your troll bait thread:

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#49595 - 02/24/11 09:41 PM Re: JK's Opinion Thread [Re: Beast Xeno]
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 Originally Posted By: Beast Xeno
This kills me man. You offered a little perspective, hoping to kindle some thought. It was met not with deliberation or discourse, but with snobbery. Sad.


So do tell. What was the real intention of posting this type of start to a thread here? JK offered an opinion that wasn't asked of him by anyone here that I'm aware of and that was suppose to kindle what kind of thought exactly Beast Xeno?

You and JK expected what kind of results from this? To walk into someone else's lair and feel it is right to poke your fingers in said lair's residents chests, you expected deliberation and dicourse afterwards? Seriously?

If this is a shining example of what SIN is like, I know I have no real desire to be there. Simply because I've been to enough boards where cattiness is the prime objective and only serves to eat up time that can be better spent. At least here, the trash is taken out regularly and time is not wasted on trying to get rid of it. If that's "snobbery", then so be it. I tend to enjoy a clean home.
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#49599 - 02/24/11 10:34 PM Re: JK's Opinion Thread [Re: Nyte]
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To address JK himself, that is purely your opinion, which noone asked for. Hmm, and the first, third and eleventh Satanic laws are a wash with you, I see. Suppose the 4th was more than appropriate to address your insolence with, huh? Then you have the gall to claim it was a butt hurt response from anyone here? Arrogance will get you nowhere, at least not here.

If this site changes it will be because it should, and not because of something you think it should be doing. I personally don't want all my personal information out all over the web, free for anyone to see for many, MANY reasons. But be sure of this, those that earn my trust get to know me, the person behind this screen name, not before. As it should be for any Satanist.

Be careful where you tread because rest assured, new fangled gadgets come along every day, only to replace those that have bolstered to be the "best". The difference is, the 600C has stood the test of time, Jake, 6Satan and all. You'll learn some day, the "in your face" approach may very well get you in over your head and you will have earned it all by your self.

Challenge away, just know who you're actually challenging because quite frankly, you may not be more than a piss ant to those you challenge.
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#49600 - 02/24/11 10:51 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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Honestly, this is a pretty sad post from you.

Are you leaving the site?
or complaining cause no one kisses your ass here?

For you to compare members here to people over at that other site is beyond stupid. If you so love the people at that other site then by all means don't let the door hit your ass. Which is funny since the only one who stands out is Mindfux with his posts and you didn't mention him.

Did you need an attention fix since you haven't written anything here lately?

You wrote, "on SIN, the content is fresh, the faces real, and the difference between "blue" and "white" is nonexistent"

Exactly, no one stands out.

Dude, why are you starting troll like trouble?
I find it to be a bit below what I have come to expect from you.

Whatever, you know what happens to trolls here.

Morgan
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#49617 - 02/25/11 12:30 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Morgan]
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Morgan, I will never stop loving you. Ever.

Sweet and succinct. Clear and concise.

Excuse the ass-kissing, but I have to give praise where it well deserved.

Oct
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#49621 - 02/25/11 03:12 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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All right, I’ve spent some additional time browsing through various sections at the S.I.N., and I have to say my original assessment has just been strengthened. I do stand corrected regarding the site’s profile picture policy: when I glanced at the Home page earlier I got the mistaken impression that the website required all users to use profile photos ostensibly of themselves, but profiles only need some type of avatar -- not left blank. Rather than just taking easy pot shots for cheap laughs (Comic Sans, too many users photos coming across like vampirefreaks.com rejects, official posts riddled with grammatical errors, etc.), I’ll just leave off with a rhetorical question: other than for the assumed motive of trolling, why would someone go out of their way to slag The 600 Club while championing SIN, when the latter is so clearly lacking in so many ways?
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#49624 - 02/25/11 05:14 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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Well, I must admit the very first days you were quite a pain in the ass displaying quite a huge ego. I thought you wouldn't survive here, yet after a few weeks I was pleasantly surprised to discover you're not always attacking people instead of their ideas and really have something to offer.

But as some of my remarks made in december, they're still standing and I think some members here are finally getting the point I made back then.

The thread leaves me with a huge "meh". There is an unspoken rule here which is quite the same the TOS uses.
 Originally Posted By: Xeper.org affilation
If a I° Initiate should decide that the Temple is not, after all, appropriate to his wants or needs, he is welcome to depart with our good wishes for satisfaction elsewhere.
With the slight change that I°Initiate would become "member".

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guess there is something to be said for that whole cross-networking thing after all. I'll take a BoboBad over a Dimitri every single time — one is simply more real than the other.

Well, she be having boobs. Can't blame you for that choice .

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#49625 - 02/25/11 05:33 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Tesseract]
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@ JasonKing

I speak from a neutral stance.

I am a member of 600Club, SIN and MySatan. These leading Satanist outposts are unique and different, they are beyond compare.

I sense the attempt in your post to attempt to create conflict between 600Club and SIN, an attempt to win recruits to SIN, to create "butthurt" and to discredit 600Club. All these aims are pointless and have FAIL written all over them.

600Club is elitist, is intellectual and is equivalent of establishment. 600Club has a healthy mix of veteran and young Satanists. It is the strict authority, experience and maturity in 600Club that gives it stability and strength. SIN offers a new approach to expressing Satanism but is vulnerable both from the immaturity in its ranks and a potentially insecure web provider.

600Club has earned the right to feel elitist, to be a bit of a "snob". 600Club is a workhorse, but it works and clunks away regardless of what "sh*t" arises within and without, and when you have the likes of tough moderators as they have in 600Club little can go wrong.

You Mr King are an intellectual, you live in your head, and unleash ideas and words that sometimes even is beyond me to understand, but you will get people in 600Club who can match you, understand you, and give you an intellectual workout, something you will rarely find in SIN. I am thinking 600Club is advanced Satanism, and SIN offers something along the lines of lite Satanism. You both have a place and cater to different markets, you are no rivals, you move in different orbits.

I think it is silly to accuse 600Club of being unreal people, of course they are real people, there are no machines here. The difference perhaps is that 600Club attacks the idea, and in SIN there is perhaps a bias to attacking the person. Even though a number of people have already sussed out your hidden agenda for raising a non-issue in this thread, still in the main they give you respect by attacking the idea rather than you. There are no tantrums, no "butthurt", just some intellectual debate on the issues you raise.

You say this is about the young v's old. 600Club is made up of a mix of young and old, and I suspect SIN has a few older veterans as well. In 600Club you see the veterans keeping the site working and wiping out any problem before it has had a chance to develop, they have seen it and done it. In SIN the individual called "BoboBad" you championed as an ideal Satanist of SIN quit, deleted their account yesterday, due to some personalised name calling. "BoboBad" is the type of member you should not be losing. SIN has rules : 18+ : yet as I highlighted you are allowing minors to join, even when they are pointed out to you, and you Mr King are a SIN moderator who should be eliminating those type of people, hence you are encouraging immaturity in SIN.

I also think it silly that people are going from forum to forum stirring up sh*t be it paganspace.net or now 600Club, just to encourage people to visit and perhaps join SIN.

Lastly, if the wheel has been invented, why are you trying to re-invent the wheel? Sure SIN is trying to take Satanism in a new directon, perhaps encouraging a more active expression of Satanism in real life, but then there are loads of 600Club members who are wealthy and influential in real life by doing just that. You may be trying to make Satanism more about the individual Satanist than those of the group mentality like Chuch of Satan, but this sort of thing is happening in 600Club as well. In summary, SIN is offering nothing different to Satanism than what the sites of 600Club and MySatan is doing. I would like to add that if your strategy is to promote a version of Satanism based on irritating people on other sites then you are deluded, as they will do to you what paganspace.net did to the founder of SIN and suspended the "sh*t stirrers".



Edited by mabon2010 (02/25/11 05:39 AM)
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#49626 - 02/25/11 05:45 AM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Caladrius]
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 Originally Posted By: Caladrius
Also, isn't it like Science in a way?

For example, we can say that all of these new generation theoretical physicists and quantum physicists with their new ideas and mathematical equations will - are - changing Newtonian Physics, Cosmology, and Science as we KNEW it.

But have those new generation physicist really changed science into something different or something else? Have they really changed Science, or just the understandings of fields and disciplines and theories in and of science. That should - must - change.

Is Satanism a static phenomenon where a new generation must keep it the same shape and form as they have gotten it from the older generations? Or else it changes into something different?


"What? You aren't bloodletting to relieve him of his headache? That is not science."

As science, Satanism is dependent upon change and like science there will be many failed attempts while evolving, compared to the few successful transformations, but never, while transforming along its evolutionary track, it will stop being Satanism.

Any young person simply embracing Satanism as is, never understood the point.

D.

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#49628 - 02/25/11 06:45 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: mabon2010]
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 Originally Posted By: mabon2010
I think it is silly to accuse 600Club of being unreal people, of course they are real people, there are no machines here.


Excuse me for not continuing into the perceived tribal war, but the idea there are no “real” people here does have some merit. What I am here is nothing but a temporal manifestation of an underlying essence. As such, D. here is not real. It is a self-created vessel designed for a specific purpose. Many confuse that part of them which participates into any form of interaction with others, as their real “me”, as their identity, but identity itself is a cage; a frozen moment in evolution which, when not perceived as such, and relieved of such, blocks any further progress.

So yes, I am surely not real.

D.

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#49629 - 02/25/11 06:50 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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@ Diavolo

Regadless of name, image or persona one presents in an internet forum there is still a real person pulling the strings. If you were not "real" you would be unable to understand or respond to my post in a meaningful manner.

In real life it is the same, people present personas or masks, but those illusions would fail unless there was a real person behind them.
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#49630 - 02/25/11 07:00 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: mabon2010]
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Why my friend is there always this need for simplicities? Why this desire to cage anything in, to dumb it down to something understandable to all.

What would that real person behind it all be? Your body; an ever-changing biological construct? Or your mind, being real as it is today? Then what were you yesterday? Or tomorrow?

What is this real person you are here and in how much does it reflect that beyond what you are here?

If it completely matches, I pity you. If it doesn't...

D.

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#49634 - 02/25/11 08:34 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Beast Xeno]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King
I'll post this here simply because I've said it, and I'm always to the face . . .

Always?

A majority of the top Club posters contribute quality content. If one were to make a list of top posters this week on SIN, many would be those with lots of spare time (read: no life/job) and little thought per post. Quality makes up a higher portion of both posts and members on 600. Beast & Ego are two members of roughly 1000, and post relatively rarely. Yeah, the youth are the future, but I'm not yet sold on the idea that we're always moving in a desirable direction over time. Nor am I convinced that the youth represented on SIN are the ones who are really going to matter.

It is possible to compare the sites (as Dan did) without name dropping and claiming certain members have smaller e-peens than others'.

 Originally Posted By: Beast Xeno
See a network also exists to discuss subjects of public interest, but unlike a forum; it offers a venue for people to work together to actually accomplish things.


In theory, yes. In practice, online networks are a surrogate for real-world action instead of a facilitator. And I'm not sure what it is SIN is supposed to be "accomplishing" besides a Halloween party. If getting Satanists together in a single room is an accomplishment, note the banner about the 13th annual Black Xmas. I'm willing to bet more showed up to that than will to Austin.

I respect you both, but I'm missing the constructive purpose this was meant to serve.
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#49635 - 02/25/11 08:47 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: XiaoGui17]
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Not desiring to mingle into the argument but the idea that networks will accomplish more than forums isn't necessarily true. On the Internet, forums might be old style and networks the new approach but ultimately there isn't much difference between them.

In the past we used vinyl, nowadays the digital but ultimately, we're still just playing music.

D.

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#49637 - 02/25/11 09:28 AM Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Jason King]
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Sorry if I leave anyone out, but I'll hit the stuff that stuck in my head . . .

Easiest first - LucyFur: when you post the "I-don't-give-a-fuck-ometer," you obviously give enough of a fuck to do so. Try harder next time.

A broad reply to those who would question my motives and accuse me of starting a "site war": This was posted without context, but now since DD has replied, I feel I can share the post of his to which I was replying on SIN. I posted it here as well simply because I do not believe in talking about any of you behind your backs, I'd rather you get it to the face.

 Originally Posted By: Dan Dread
I dunno about it being a graveyard JK. The difference in quality of content, insofar as the forums are concerned, is night and day. The activity generally about the same, it has actually been far more active over than here as of late.

Not hating on SIN, I just think these two sites are categorically different. This is the pool hall, that's the dojo.

As far as the original blog goes, it pains me to see this dredged back up from the murky depths, but well written just the same.


What I was taking issue with was the phrase "quality of content . . . is night and day," and at the same time taking a broader look at the vectors on each site. To me, the "quality of content" is no better on 600, just more top heavy.

To the guy/girl with the rules - Nyte: When you do that, you have already told me a lot about yourself. Let me tell you what would have been beautiful. Instead of this being a four page thread, it was a single unanswered post. THEN, maybe then you would have a point. Think about it.

MatthewJ1: You are mistaken, I was never warmly welcomed on MCoS. Shit, dude, half of them still don't know that Elvis is the King. As for mentioning names, that's how I roll. I have no solid beef with either Jake or 6, but perhaps they do with me. I pointed a finger. A finger that asked "what have you done for me lately?" And if someone (else, see above) wants to make an issue of the "we're better than you" thing, I'll simply start parsing that out. When you (and the others) start seeing the full context, it should make sense. And if I have to spell it out that the "me" fifty words ago does not mean JK, then you fail again.

6: you make me chuckle without even trying. The same dude who was sticking his imaginary tongue in Lady Gaga's fly-infested booty is now calling me on my use of projection? I'll say it again, and this time I'll try to make it soes you can git it. Projection does not always indicate "I see A in you because I have a repression of A in me". Sometimes the matrix of the mind is a tad bit more complicated. When you projected onto me the qualities of

 Originally Posted By: 6
You seem to think you are something special, and anyone who fails to recognize this and stroke your fragile ego is somehow below you


you actually weren't talking about me. You were talking about . . . oh, wait, I think that's a bit of something YOU need to figure out.

Morgan: I really do love it when you run in guns blazin'. But your piece is telling as well. So let's have a look-see:

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
Honestly, this is a pretty sad post from you.


Sad? No, I was actually quite nonchalant while composing this. Oh, wait, you meant I disappointed you. Yeah, I do that from time to time.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
Are you leaving the site?


Did I say I was? But it's nice to know you'd miss me.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
or complaining cause no one kisses your ass here?


I truly loathe ass-kissers. Those who challenge me and push me, these have my respect. Honestly, M, you have more ass-kissers than I do, just scroll down the thread if you doubt me.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
For you to compare members here to people over at that other site is beyond stupid.


In politics, there is a ploy whereby you never drop the name of your opponent - I see you've got that down. "Beyond stupid" - and what would that be exactly?

I compare people all the time. Everybody does, you included.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
If you so love the people at that other site then by all means don't let the door hit your ass.


Either/or fallacy. Just sayin'.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
Which is funny since the only one who stands out is Mindfux with his posts and you didn't mention him.


Mindfux is just plain AWESOME. AS is Diavolo. As is . . . wait, see this is the funny thing - you took this as a tit for tat, when it wasn't. Yeah, sure, I put two up against two up, but it was in response to a general claim (see above).

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
Did you need an attention fix since you haven't written anything here lately?


This actually has two ways it can be understood. And I'll go with the killshot approach . . .

Whether you like it or not, when I start a thread, it generally runs three pages minimum. The fact that I can get you (and you, and you . . .) to pay attention is telling. Where is the last thread started by Morgan running that length? Or ANY ONE of the people I've responded to above? Dig. Dig deeper.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
You wrote, "on SIN, the content is fresh, the faces real, and the difference between "blue" and "white" is nonexistent"

Exactly, no one stands out.


Actually, plenty of people stand out. I guess that was the big point that just flew right over your head. It's a good thing though, pointy shit hitting the head is always bad for the head.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
Dude, why are you starting troll like trouble?
I find it to be a bit below what I have come to expect from you.

Whatever, you know what happens to trolls here.


This may be stoopid, and below the 600 IQ, but what exactly counts as a "troll". The more I see this bandied about, it approaches specific meaning at: "the powers that be need to shut this dude down".

Oh, but wait, that actually sounds a bit like some other guy I've heard about . . .

JK
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#49638 - 02/25/11 09:42 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
So yes, I am surely not real.


That's too bad, I was just starting to like you ;\)

 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
Not desiring to mingle into the argument but the idea that networks will accomplish more than forums isn't necessarily true. On the Internet, forums might be old style and networks the new approach but ultimately there isn't much difference between them.

In the past we used vinyl, nowadays the digital but ultimately, we're still just playing music.


It's not a question of old vs new - they are different communication models, and they serve different purposes. 1:1, 1:many, many:1, many:many; one-liners, paragraphs, essays, longer; filtered or not; depending on what type of niche you're trying to set up will determine which attributes work best.

Now, different areas may differ in popularity, but that's something else entirely.

 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17
Yeah, the youth are the future, but I'm not yet sold on the idea that we're always moving in a desirable direction over time.


For me, the only significant advantage that facespace-type networks help me accomplish is that instead of just listening to my own circle whine, I can now listen to everybody whine.
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#49641 - 02/25/11 11:01 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Autodidact]
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The Internet is a tool and so are its different methods of expression. In that respect, networks or forums don't differ since the only valuable part behind it are the very individuals interacting. In the end, those individuals are responsible for anything productive or rejectable which sprouts from it.

Of course when looking at the others we tend to focus on the differences and quickly assume ours is better. I admit, too often I judge identical. But this is mainly and an instinctive and protective urge, and one of dominance. In everything, our Will to Power is expressed. As such, we tend to focus upon the night in others, comparing it to the day in ours but often ignoring the twilight which binds us both.

What is important is how well a tool serves us and as long as it does just that, all the rest is of little relevance.

I'd not say the youth is the future as youth being change. With age comes the inevitable slowing down, often resulting in a halt. The youth's responsibility is to be adversarial, attempt change and in that, occasionally kick-start the old or eliminate that what can't. Nothing new can sprout when not fed by the rotting remains of old. As such, both serve their purpose and fulfill their role in a never-ending cycle.

Even when it isn't moving in the “desirable” direction, as XiaoGui17 mentioned, the only importance is that, at least, it is moving.

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#49642 - 02/25/11 11:21 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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I will concede that I haven’t read everything JK has posted, at least not all the way through, because after about the second paragraph I feel like I am being drowned in verbal diarrhea.

It appears to me as if he believes himself to hold some kind of “Master Key,” that most people have missed, yet I haven’t seen even one original idea from him. He is attempting to take a simple concept, Satanism, and pretends that he has the only blue print to build on the foundation of it, and that anyone who doesn’t see his “genius” gets a “Fail,” in his book. What he fails to see himself is that many, if not most people, don’t give a shit about his book. Actually he thinks that he can build an original foundation for Satanism, which is a “Fail,” as far as I’m concerned. I am convinced that TSB will be around for decades after his E-book is long forgotten.

One would have a valid argument if they pointed out that I have no basis to criticize him because I haven’t contributed anything original or great to Satanism either. I would counter that by saying that it is absolutely true, but in my defense I would add that I don’t pretend to hold the “Master Key,” that will work for everyone either.

I view him as nothing but a shit stirrer trying desperately to cook up something great from the stew that he stirs. When he is called out on this fact, he attempts to make it sound as if his grandiose lame ideas have some great concept and wisdom that can be found between the lines, if one has the mental capacity to decipher his “test.”
BULL SHIT!
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#49643 - 02/25/11 11:35 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Asmedious]
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The real question is; if he's a shit stirrer, what exactly is the difference between those being stirred and those not? And does that not, maybe unwanted, point to something essential?

To add to this: there are two things in life; those you can change and those you can't. Those you can't change you don't bother about.
Of the things you can change, there are two again; those that are important and those that aren't. Those that aren't, you don't bother about.
Of those that are important, you wonder why and when finding the answer, you either change them or yourself.
I often change myself.

D.


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#49644 - 02/25/11 11:44 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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And does that not, maybe unwanted, point to something essential?


No I don't believe that it does, but he is desperately trying to make us believe that it does.
However, if I am missing that “something essential” I would very much appreciate it if someone would help me understand it.
In this rare instance I highly doubt that the statement “Either one gets it, or one doesn’t,” applies.

*Edit* I posted this before you added your last paragraph. I understand your the concenpt of changing things that are important, and not worrying about things that aren't, but I don't see how that relates to this situation.





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#49645 - 02/25/11 11:47 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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Depends on the nature of the stirring I guess.

Some can be stirred in an 'oh jeebus, not this shit again, GTFO' sort of way.

Others can be stirred in a foaming at the mouth indignant sort of way, as evidenced once on this thread.

And still others can be stirred in a way that would make them post a thread like this in the first place.

All are telling.
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#49646 - 02/25/11 11:51 AM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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Of those that are important, you wonder why and when finding the answer, you either change them or yourself.
I often change myself.



I re-read what you wrote here, and I might see your point.

Speaking for myself, I haven't seen anything in regards to the subject that would give me any inclination to change "it" or myself, becuase it is NOT important at all.
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#49647 - 02/25/11 12:02 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17
 Originally Posted By: Beast Xeno
See a network also exists to discuss subjects of public interest, but unlike a forum; it offers a venue for people to work together to actually accomplish things.


In theory, yes. In practice, online networks are a surrogate for real-world action instead of a facilitator. And I'm not sure what it is SIN is supposed to be "accomplishing" besides a Halloween party. If getting Satanists together in a single room is an accomplishment, note the banner about the 13th annual Black Xmas. I'm willing to bet more showed up to that than will to Austin.

I respect you both, but I'm missing the constructive purpose this was meant to serve.



I think JK has done a fine job in the expanse of his criticism. I’m not sure why you think I am pressing the same issue though. I addressed specific things within Fnord’s response. I suppose my comment about the abhorrent snobbery, could have been omitted. However when it became obvious that folks would rather be dismissive and attack the character of JK, I couldn’t help myself. This isn’t to say that I don’t share JK’s criticism. Realize I am not the guy, who was taking the greater issue in this thread.

In regard to the network vs forum dichotomy, it was not my intent to suggest one was better than the other. In fact, if anything I was simply agreeing and reinforcing what Fnord had already stated.

 Originally Posted By: Fnord

The purpose for going to a forum versus going to a social networking site are different (or should be).


I wasn’t stating that SIN was supposed to be “accomplishing” anything.

 Originally Posted By: Beast Xeno
See a network also exists to discuss subjects of public interest, but unlike a forum; it offers a venue for people to work together to actually accomplish things.


The best things I’ve seen come in response to JK’s original post have come from this guy...

 Originally Posted By: Diavolo


I think it is the duty of the young to attack the old, question or reject it, and aspire something new. Through that, everything keeps evolving and hopefully, improving. Of course the old won't always like this but the old should not settle for the familiar, or the comfortable, but attempt to keep a young mind, remaining a child, and adapt according the changes. In remaining a child and keep changing/learning as our world changes, lies the real value of living.

D.


It is a beautiful concept, is it not? Very well put, and from my experience very spot on. In that, why is introspection not something readily cherished?





Edited by Beast Xeno (02/25/11 12:06 PM)
Edit Reason: extra BB tag included in post.
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#49648 - 02/25/11 12:05 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Asmedious]
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 Originally Posted By: Asmedious
*Edit* I posted this before you added your last paragraph. I understand your the concenpt of changing things that are important, and not worrying about things that aren't, but I don't see how that relates to this situation.


I think it relates to all situations in life.

To show you how, and how something abstract and quite irrelevant interferes with our emotions, I'll for a moment participate in the clan-fight which lingers in this thread. While you play the war-drums, I'll quickly apply some blue face paint before I commence.

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*drumrolls*

SIN = bad.
King = bad bad.
600 = good.
Diavolo(interchangable) = good good.

*end drumrolls*


I hope I covered the essentials with this and at the same moment provided the very reason why I myself don't participate in it, preferring to focus on things more rewarding.

I also hope this, in its maybe surreal form gave an answer to why "it" also relates to this.

D.

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#49649 - 02/25/11 12:12 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Beast Xeno]
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 Originally Posted By: Beast Xeno
In that, why is introspection not something readily cherished?


Most likely because introspection is often confrontational and especially when this introspection is caused by others. Personally I like to be confronted. When someone manages to throw a brick into my wall and cause a crack, I'll respect them even more.

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#49652 - 02/25/11 12:40 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Asmedious]
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 Originally Posted By: Asmedious

I will concede that I haven’t read everything JK has posted, at least not all the way through, because after about the second paragraph I feel like I am being drowned in verbal diarrhea.

It appears to me as if he believes himself to hold some kind of “Master Key,” that most people have missed, yet I haven’t seen even one original idea from him.


I actually cut off your best line, but whatever, I cut it exactly where it needs to be, Alf.

You have trouble following my paragraphs? Well, all good - I'll dose 'em out at two S's, that is, if your ridiculously overpowering intelligence can deign to comprehend . . .

I will put this to you, WHO THE FUCK EVER, aka ALF, aka, A FAILED SITCOM: your choice, and it is always ladies choice . . .

A) A for Alf! But seriously, you can post old (i.e. anything from the past of today) shit to counter my old shit (same restriction), and we'll see what's what,

or . . .

B) we have at a NEW exchange on the topic at hand.

Hey, dude, this is like that part in poker where you've been called on the river. And just remember, the topic at hand is original thought.

I'm layin' down on the train-tracks here because I think I could even do "original thought" more originally than you (yeah, that all works grammatically), so let's have at it.

Except for the fact that you, like so many others, will avoid the head-on JK. That fucker is just plain dangerous.

I get it, just like I get the need for you to be dosed on short paragraphs. Two sentences for Alf, then I break.

Bottom line, I fear no engagement. This is well known.

You'd be wise to sit down and shut up right about now (oh, shit! no he didn't). Facing JK on the battlefield of ideas hardly ever pays out, Alf.

THINK. ABOUT. IT.

Then get back to me, 'cause I'm feeling blood or bitch right about now . . .

JK (yeah, that dude)
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#49654 - 02/25/11 12:59 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Jason King]
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6: you make me chuckle without even trying.


Thanks. I am pretty funny.

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The same dude who was sticking his imaginary tongue in Lady Gaga's fly-infested booty is now calling me on my use of projection?


Yes. But what does one have to do with the other? Is that supposed to be some "cleverly" disguised insult?

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I'll say it again, and this time I'll try to make it soes you can git it. Projection does not always indicate blah blah blah


And I'll say it again, though there is no way I can dumb it down for you:

My presence in this thread has nothing to do, as you seem to think, with your specific mentioning of me. It has everything to do with your retarded attempt at starting internet drama. I really truly do not care if I have made an impression on your for good or ill. You simply aren't that important. I know, I know, this is an alien concept you; what with you being "the king" and all.

I knew exactly what you were trying to say, it was just wrong. That's it.
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#49655 - 02/25/11 01:02 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
To show you how, and how something abstract and quite irrelevant interferes with our emotions, I'll for a moment participate in the clan-fight which lingers in this thread. While you play the war-drums, I'll quickly apply some blue face paint before I commence.

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*drumrolls*

SIN = bad.
King = bad bad.
600 = good.
Diavolo(interchangable) = good good.

*end drumrolls*


AWESOME! JK= bad bad. The bad guy. Love it. Off the chains, dude. Couldn't have said it any more briefly for that Alf character myself. <pats dude on the back>.

that cripple-crotchet . . . JK
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#49657 - 02/25/11 01:06 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King
Sorry if I leave anyone out, but I'll hit the stuff that stuck in my head . . . .


Thank you for making it the exact "tit for tat" you claimed you weren't looking for. Responding to 6Satan, Morgan, et al., the way you have highlights that. Hell, your first post was exactly that.

 Originally Posted By: Jason King
A broad reply to those who would question my motives and accuse me of starting a "site war": This was posted without context, but now since DD has replied, I feel I can share the post of his to which I was replying on SIN. I posted it here as well simply because I do not believe in talking about any of you behind your backs, I'd rather you get it to the face.


If you had been "..to the face" enough you would have played that hand completely. Instead you want to claim it's something else now when in fact, it's exactly what it looked like from the beginning. Thank you again.

 Originally Posted By: Jason King
To the guy/girl with the rules - Nyte: When you do that, you have already told me a lot about yourself. Let me tell you what would have been beautiful. Instead of this being a four page thread, it was a single unanswered post. THEN, maybe then you would have a point. Think about it.


If you bothered to look further, you would see there's a lot more to me than just those words. But you'll never know that, and with good reasons. We all know, the "youth" are all about what you can fb and tweet. Right? Only in the moment, never seeing the whole. You'll miss a lot dear boy. A LOT.

It wouldn't have mattered either way for you JK. You've thought this through enough to feel you were victorious either way, post or no posts. The ironic part is, you've shown exactly what you are about, all the way through. There's nothing clever about what you posted, from the beginning, and nothing new either. Have fun being your own self-important mouth piece until someone with the bigger bull-horn comes along. You'll miss the important things because you only hear the bull-horn in your own head. Not to mention your little flock will move to the bigger bull-horn, well because that's what the youth of today does.

 Originally Posted By: Jason King
MatthewJ1: You are mistaken, I was never warmly welcomed on MCoS. Shit, dude, half of them still don't know that Elvis is the King. As for mentioning names, that's how I roll. I have no solid beef with either Jake or 6, but perhaps they do with me. I pointed a finger. A finger that asked "what have you done for me lately?" And if someone (else, see above) wants to make an issue of the "we're better than you" thing, I'll simply start parsing that out. When you (and the others) start seeing the full context, it should make sense. And if I have to spell it out that the "me" fifty words ago does not mean JK, then you fail again.


The highlighted in your statement to MatthewJ1 is so incredibly transparent. No need to explain a thing JK. It's very, very incredibly transparent what the intent is. You'll never know what has been done or is being done.

As for parsing out "we're better than you", you've all ready done that, first post in. No need to rehash your opinion which NOONE asked for HERE anyway. You play the exact same board games that I've seen long before you were around on message boards and forums. It's pathetic and exactly WHY I prefer to be here, than any of the other million message boards that roam the web.

Go play slag fest on SIN. You've proven yourself here and I'm done with you.
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#49658 - 02/25/11 01:17 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Jason King]
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"I have no solid beef with either Jake or 6, but perhaps they do with me. I pointed a finger. A finger that asked "what have you done for me lately?"

This site not made up up members who need to dance for your amusement or do things for you.

"Whether you like it or not, when I start a thread, it generally runs three pages minimum. The fact that I can get you (and you, and you . . .) to pay attention is telling. Where is the last thread started by Morgan running that length? Or ANY ONE of the people I've responded to above? Dig. Dig deeper."

So what, you already said a while ago, you don't respond to your own threads till they are 3 pages long. This thread you created to stir up shit between sites and pit members against members is grade school bullshit. I am honestly thought about locking it last night.

When I post anything I do it for me, I don't post to have pages and pages of responses. I don't care if one person responds or 500 people respond. I don't need the ego boost, oh, and if people happen to agree with my short and to the point remarks fine. I call out bullshit from everyone equally, and they get equal treatment in the end.

There is nothing to dig, you posted a troll post and got the usual response from people. Still nothing new or surprising, just kinda expected. I believe there were possibly side bets made as to when your ego would explode and you would attack the site.

What does troll behavior mean, well, simply, you are making comments about the site, about members, and being a general douche about it. Like I told you the first time I met you in chat, don't be a douche.

"Oh, but wait, that actually sounds a bit like some other guy I've heard about"

Maybe this is your attempt at sarcasm, if so you failed. If you are trying to compare yourself to that other guy who was banned, are you going to threaten to hit me, slap me, and kick my ass for being a girl too? As well as take the site down by some means? I wonder how your wife would feel knowing that you support men beating up women because they happen to be threatened on some level by them?

"Except for the fact that you, like so many others, will avoid the head-on JK. That fucker is just plain dangerous."

Anyone who has to claim they are dangerous isn't. The thing is, no one really cares. You were given the benefit of the doubt, and people in general were open minded to see what you had to say. The thing is, all and all you didn't say much.

Mindfux, and the thedeadidea are the only people who's writings actually stand out, and I enjoy reading.

Do you have paypal? So I can send you a quarter to call someone who cares?

Morgan
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#49671 - 02/25/11 01:37 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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I will put this to you, WHO THE FUCK EVER, aka ALF, aka, A FAILED SITCOM: your choice, and it is always ladies choice . . .


Maybe it’s because I’m a “Mundane,” or unenlightened, but I fail to see why you would chose to attack and put down a meaningless Avitar that serves no other purpose then to be a cute picture of an old sitcom.

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B) we have at a NEW exchange on the topic at hand.



What EXACTLY is the topic at hand? The original post regarding some kind of new elite at another site? Good, best of luck on their journey. I have no qualms in regards to them. I am looking forward to any NEW revelations and ideas that they may bring into light.

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Hey, dude, this is like that part in poker where you've been called on the river. And just remember, the topic at hand is original thought.


I haven’t seen original thought in years on any website. Even when I believed that I read something original I have found that someone was merely rephrasing an idea that was put forth centuries before.

Please if you would be so kind to humor me, give me just ONE original Jason King idea that has not been previously stated somewhere.

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I'm layin' down on the train-tracks here because I think I could even do "original thought" more originally than you (yeah, that all works grammatically), so let's have at it.


There is no argument there. I realize that I have NEVER, not even once had an original thought. Every single time that I thought I was on to something, eventually I found that someone long before me had that same idea. However, I do not make any claims to having an original thought either.

What I am questioning is YOUR proposition that you have come up with some kind of original concept that has never seen the light of day.

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Except for the fact that you, like so many others, will avoid the head-on JK. That fucker is just plain dangerous


Dangerous how and to whom? Ideas and beliefs that some might hold to so strongly that they fear learning that what they have believed for so long has been false? I am not guilty of that. I am willing to throw out ANY beliefs that I may hold if I find an argument to disprove it. I’ve done that many times in the past.
For example I dropped the belief long ago that there is such a thing as Fate, as well as the belief that there is a reason for my existence other then to reproduce and squirt out other little “Alf’s,” Which is actually not a reason either for existence. Some who have been able to get passed such strongly engraved beliefs might attest that it is a very difficult thing to do, and dropping most other beliefs will pale in comparison in the difficulty of letting them go.

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I get it, just like I get the need for you to be dosed on short paragraphs. Two sentences for Alf, then I break.


Guilty as charged. I prefer ideas to be put forth in simple and clear terms. It can be done, but only if the ideas are valid. Most of the time when an idea is made to appear overly complex, it is because there is no idea, but instead there is only the desire to create the illusion of one.

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Bottom line, I fear no engagement. This is well known


It appears to me that not only do you not fear engagement, but you thrive on it, going as far as creating it if there is non to be had.

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You'd be wise to sit down and shut up right about now (oh, shit! no he didn't). Facing JK on the battlefield of ideas hardly ever pays out, Alf.


That’s ok, one thing that I can never be accused of is listening to “wise” advice.
On the other hand, I do not view the exchange of ideas as a battle field, but instead an opportunity to perhaps grow from them. One only battles if one either fears, or is threatened by something.

I have no fear of new ideas, nor do I feel threatened by them, therefore I do not feel any need to do battle with them.

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Then get back to me, 'cause I'm feeling blood or bitch right about now


May I suggest a bubble bath and some soothing music?


I’m not feeling anything at all, except a slight curiosity in trying to figure out what idea you have that you believe to be original.






Edited by Asmedious (02/25/11 01:41 PM)
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#49672 - 02/25/11 01:38 PM Re: blah blah blah [Re: Morgan]
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I locked and then unlocked this thread.

Go ahead continue, it's kinda funny at this point.

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#49681 - 02/25/11 01:57 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Nyte]
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 Originally Posted By: Nyte
 Originally Posted By: Jason King
Sorry if I leave anyone out, but I'll hit the stuff that stuck in my head . . . .


Thank you for making it the exact "tit for tat" you claimed you weren't looking for. Responding to 6Satan, Morgan, et al., the way you have highlights that. Hell, your first post was exactly that.

 Originally Posted By: Jason King
A broad reply to those who would question my motives and accuse me of starting a "site war": This was posted without context, but now since DD has replied, I feel I can share the post of his to which I was replying on SIN. I posted it here as well simply because I do not believe in talking about any of you behind your backs, I'd rather you get it to the face.


If you had been "..to the face" enough you would have played that hand completely. Instead you want to claim it's something else now when in fact, it's exactly what it looked like from the beginning. Thank you again.

 Originally Posted By: Jason King
To the guy/girl with the rules - Nyte: When you do that, you have already told me a lot about yourself. Let me tell you what would have been beautiful. Instead of this being a four page thread, it was a single unanswered post. THEN, maybe then you would have a point. Think about it.


If you bothered to look further, you would see there's a lot more to me than just those words. But you'll never know that, and with good reasons. We all know, the "youth" are all about what you can fb and tweet. Right? Only in the moment, never seeing the whole. You'll miss a lot dear boy. A LOT.

It wouldn't have mattered either way for you JK. You've thought this through enough to feel you were victorious either way, post or no posts. The ironic part is, you've shown exactly what you are about, all the way through. There's nothing clever about what you posted, from the beginning, and nothing new either. Have fun being your own self-important mouth piece until someone with the bigger bull-horn comes along. You'll miss the important things because you only hear the bull-horn in your own head. Not to mention your little flock will move to the bigger bull-horn, well because that's what the youth of today does.

 Originally Posted By: Jason King
MatthewJ1: You are mistaken, I was never warmly welcomed on MCoS. Shit, dude, half of them still don't know that Elvis is the King. As for mentioning names, that's how I roll. I have no solid beef with either Jake or 6, but perhaps they do with me. I pointed a finger. A finger that asked "what have you done for me lately?" And if someone (else, see above) wants to make an issue of the "we're better than you" thing, I'll simply start parsing that out. When you (and the others) start seeing the full context, it should make sense. And if I have to spell it out that the "me" fifty words ago does not mean JK, then you fail again.


The highlighted in your statement to MatthewJ1 is so incredibly transparent. No need to explain a thing JK. It's very, very incredibly transparent what the intent is. You'll never know what has been done or is being done.

As for parsing out "we're better than you", you've all ready done that, first post in. No need to rehash your opinion which NOONE asked for HERE anyway. You play the exact same board games that I've seen long before you were around on message boards and forums. It's pathetic and exactly WHY I prefer to be here, than any of the other million message boards that roam the web.

Go play slag fest on SIN. You've proven yourself here and I'm done with you.



It was good enough that I just left it in full. The first thing to notice is the anger. The sheer vitriol. But Mikey likes that, so whatever.

The second thing, obviously, is the thought-time. You thanked me? No, I thank you, sir, for a post as well thought out and insightful as the post to which it is a reply. And to think, I gave you five seconds, yet you graced me with the full ten minutes.

Third, there are the points themselves. And this is why I reproduce the quote above in is fullness. When you exclude ad hominems and ad populems, this post is rhetorically vacuous. That's not to say it had no barbs, on the contrary, it was an admirable piece of fandom. A pretty haymaker for the crowd "oooh'"s, but ultimately missing wild right and leaving you open on the weak side. Needless to say, I'll just admire the boldness of it for now.

JK

p.s. you missed the 50th word thing, didn't you?
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#49684 - 02/25/11 02:04 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Jason King]
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"The first thing to notice is the anger"

That's laughter....

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#49685 - 02/25/11 02:09 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17


 Originally Posted By: Beast Xeno
See a network also exists to discuss subjects of public interest, but unlike a forum; it offers a venue for people to work together to actually accomplish things.


In theory, yes. In practice, online networks are a surrogate for real-world action instead of a facilitator. And I'm not sure what it is SIN is supposed to be "accomplishing" besides a Halloween party. If getting Satanists together in a single room is an accomplishment, note the banner about the 13th annual Black Xmas. I'm willing to bet more showed up to that than will to Austin.

I respect you both, but I'm missing the constructive purpose this was meant to serve.


That is a very good point. I have seen instances where both modalities spawned real world action and cooperation, but this is rare, and usually with one or two or a handful of people getting together. Until we develop transporter technology, these global cyber-groups will be limited.

But I just don't see what anyone gets out of posting a 'butt hurt' thread for the express purpose of comparing two completely different groups, then dissing the one you are on! JK, would you do this in real life? What sort of reaction were you expecting? It is obvious you just wanted to stir some shit before leaving.
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#49688 - 02/25/11 02:14 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: mabon2010]
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I didn't leave due to personal attacks. I left because of threads like this. I am a little to old to be part of a place that is constantly stirring up drama, for the sake of drama. Everytime I turn around someone at SIN is stirring up s**t with 600 club.

I respect everyone highly that is a member of the 600 club. Morgan's book was a revelation (little ass kissing I apologize). When I started looking into Satanism the forums here are what I read (after the books). The posters here made me realize some of the basic tenets behind the philosophy. The 600 Club comes off as intelligent, well read and they "take out the trash" when needed.

The only reason I haven't been posting here is the fact that I joined SIN first (and thus I'm guilty by association). Since I have started this whole SIN vs. 600 club thing has gotten out of control. Out of the two forums, 600 has been was classier about the whole thing. Some can say pretentious and outdated, but if the future of Satanism is what I have seen at SIN, then we are in alot of trouble.


*other than that, Mabon nailed everything else I have to say. \:\)
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#49691 - 02/25/11 02:18 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Asmedious]
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 Originally Posted By: Asmedious
Please if you would be so kind to humor me, give me just ONE original Jason King idea that has not been previously stated somewhere.



Trikaya correspond to the prime vectors as follows:

Nirmanakaya - Expression
Sambhogakaya - Extension
Dharmakaya- Relativity.

Oh wait, that's just a bunch of gobbledygook as far as you can tell.

Well then, how about the 5.9090. . .th Sephirah, Tsir?

Or my unique analysis of AL?

Or how about my numerical understanding of Divinity (post-pythagorean)?

Postmodern Pentagram, perhaps?

Or I could be an utter dick and say, how about making YT videos with a blacklight over my right shoulder?

You asked for ONE, I gave you SIX. One for each wall of that box you're in.

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#49697 - 02/25/11 02:39 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: BoBoBad]
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 Originally Posted By: BoBoBad
Since I have started this whole SIN vs. 600 club thing has gotten out of control. Out of the two forums, 600 has been was classier about the whole thing. Some can say pretentious and outdated, but if the future of Satanism is what I have seen at SIN, then we are in alot of trouble.


I like the addition of "was" in your comment. I'd state that there isn't a "SIN vs Club" thing and all is simply ego and/or group-think.

All this shows not that much is needed to turn us into that what we believe to be beyond or to be not. A little prod at the right place turns us exactly into that which we hold against others. As such, this is a great thread.

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#49698 - 02/25/11 02:39 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Morgan]
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 Originally Posted By: Morgan
"The first thing to notice is the anger"

That's laughter....

\:D


Anger? Really? You're right Morgan, it was pure laughter. And if JK had actually used his head a bit he could have seen, there is NO "sir" in this person. But hey, that's what you get when you don't pay much attention to those you're actually posting with, eh?

Missing a lot dear boy....A LOT.
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#49705 - 02/25/11 02:50 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Morgan]
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Let's go Diana Ross-style: inside out, and round and round.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
Do you have paypal? So I can send you a quarter to call someone who cares?


You know I have one because you've already sent me quite a bit more than a quarter.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
Mindfux, and the thedeadidea are the only people who's writings actually stand out, and I enjoy reading.


Good, me too. And either one of them might be happy to enlighten you on possessive pronouns vs. conjunctions.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
The thing is, no one really cares. You were given the benefit of the doubt, and people in general were open minded to see what you had to say. The thing is, all and all you didn't say much.


At least you separated your two "the thing is" masterpieces with a breaker sentence. The thing is, you still failed.

 Originally Posted By: Morgan
If you are trying to compare yourself to that other guy who was banned, are you going to threaten to hit me, slap me, and kick my ass for being a girl too? As well as take the site down by some means? I wonder how your wife would feel knowing that you support men beating up women because they happen to be threatened on some level by them?


Wow. That told me a lot. The comparison was to Satan, read my post again. I've heard of TMI, but this was WAAAAAY too much information (about your mindset).

I'm stopping now. Pushing head-buttons is one thing, but I seriously only intend to get the mark to break their categories. To have the mark completely wig out is not cool. Perhaps you really should lock this thread. And if you have the ability, deleting the mental breakdown reply might be in your interest.

Think on it, and be well, M.

JK
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#49707 - 02/25/11 02:52 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Diavolo]
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I agree that it isn't an us vs. them thing. Two different networks, two different audiences. SIN can help you get you're feet wet, get prepared to play with the big boys. I'm not going to be forced into a "Satanic West Side Story". At some point, you have to ask yourself why are you associated with any given group. That is the push I needed.

I also realized that if I want to advance I need to be challenged, taken to task, and made to ask the hard questions of myself. Being a big fish in a small pond is great. If you can't test out the bigger pool and see what happens, you will hit stasis. I refuse to stop on my journey, get comfortable and complacent.
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#49711 - 02/25/11 02:59 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King
Nirmanakaya - Expression
Sambhogakaya - Extension
Dharmakaya- Relativity.


The first two are vanilla - but Dharmakaya equals 'relativity' ?!

Amuse me with an explanation, will you?
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#49712 - 02/25/11 03:00 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: BoBoBad]
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I also realized that if I want to advance I need to be challenged, taken to task, and made to ask the hard questions of myself. Being a big fish in a small pond is great. If you can't test out the bigger pool and see what happens, you will hit stasis. I refuse to stop on my journey, get comfortable and complacent.


Not that I don't support your goal, but you do realize that this is a web forum, right? SIN is an on-line social network (I stress on-line because few of those that post there have ever met, so it's not really 'social' per se). At some point you might realize that the biggest test that you can face is in how you live your life. Not how you comport yourself on a forum. In my view the measure of a Satanist isn't what Satanists think of them, or how their ideas stand against other Satanists, but rather how they take those ideas out into the world and actually achieve something real with them for themselves.

I do agree however, this thread is rapidly becoming embarrassing, and more than a little pathetic. JK, I respect your intellect, but in this case you've devolved from making points to just jamming your own horn, self declaring your own untested thinking as genius and moving from any kind of intellectual discussion into a discussion of personal positions on the issue of people recognizing your greatness (or otherwise).

In short, you are trolling. Your end goal, and ultimate point has been to be 'too extreme' for the group. There's a difference between being 'too extreme' and being 'more worthy'. Ultimately if you're a jackass people will be pissed at you and will behave accordingly.

What's the point proven here? That you can be a jackass? That you can get more attention for trolling than you do for your other content?


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#49714 - 02/25/11 03:07 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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You got me there. I don’t recall reading or hearing about any of those things which you mention and I’m not foolish enough to say anything about them without the slightest clue as to what they are.

As for your Youtube video’s I did see some of them. Some I liked some I was indifferent about.

One did stand out that rubbed me the wrong way however, where you criticized Richard Dawkin’s response during a Question and Answer period after one of his speeches. You didn’t like the answer he gave to the girl who asked “What if you’re wrong.”
You spent quite some time explaining how you would have answered that question differently.
My main objection to your video in that case was that you didn’t seem to take into consideration that Richard Dawkins was thinking on his feet and only had a few seconds to come up with a response, while you on the other hand had the luxury of taking as much time as you needed to come up with a response.

Point here is that I have watched your videos and I’m not attacking you but your motivation for how you present yourself.


I have also read a large portion of your e-book but did not finish it because I lost interest in it because of all the “Goobyldygook,” as you put it.

On the other hand, I am in the middle of reading the “Lucifer Principle,” on a recommendation that you made to a new member a few months ago.
That book I like because it is easy to understand. If you have written it, then I would have no problems in showing respect for that achievement, even though it makes me uncomfortable to accept the premise behind it, which basically states that even though we may believe that we are functioning as independent units with free will, we might actually be acting in support of an entire human organism made up of individuals. I HATE that idea, but have to give it serious consideration because of some very convincing theories it puts forth (such as explaining the reason for suicide and self sacrifice even if it appears that those actions are going against the preservation of ones “selfish” genes)

Alright so I may have to concede that you MIGHT have some original ideas since I don’t really want to read about things that I have no interest in.
However, if you were truly interested in spreading your ideas, perhaps it would serve you better to present them in a way that the average person can understand them, while also giving people a reason to be interested in them in the first place. (As in what’s in it for me, if I do further research into your theories)

If you don’t care to share those ideas with most people in a way that they can understand them, then why bother to confront them by attempting to get a rise out of them in the first place?
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#49717 - 02/25/11 03:11 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
My presence in this thread has nothing to do, as you seem to think, with your specific mentioning of me. It has everything to do with your retarded attempt at starting internet drama. I really truly do not care if I have made an impression on your for good or ill. You simply aren't that important. I know, I know, this is an alien concept you; what with you being "the king" and all.


Stop allowing me to shoot these fish in a barrel and call in that air-strike already. Did I say allowing? I meant empowering.

Quick Quiz: if J=the number of JK-initiated threads commented on by 6, and if F=the number of 6-initiated threads commented on by JK, then the following equation has what value:

J-6F=???

Just as an aside, I had fun with this equation because the 6F connotes "6=Fail," and when the equation is solved, it outright denotes it.

JK
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#49718 - 02/25/11 03:22 PM Re: Dharmakaya and Relativity [Re: Gattamelata]
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 Originally Posted By: Gattamelata
 Originally Posted By: Jason King
Nirmanakaya - Expression
Sambhogakaya - Extension
Dharmakaya- Relativity.


The first two are vanilla - but Dharmakaya equals 'relativity' ?!

Amuse me with an explanation, will you?



Sure. The most basic dualism (ma-rigpa) is that of subject/object, this is Relativity. World-relative to-Self. As it is the most simple of mayas, it is the one which collapses into Advaita (nonduality) directly as a quantum/monad (Kether reflected backwards through the mirror of Daath). And advaita is the rigpa of Dharmakaya (the Aleph of the Ain).

Have fun.

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#49719 - 02/25/11 03:31 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Jason King]
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So this is a math test now?

How about this: I don't keep track of whose threads I comment on, how many times I do it and how many times it is reciprocated. I just don't care. Obviously you do, your taking the time to think up that cute little equations proves it.

I have gained far more from reading replies of other people (read: not you) in threads that I have created than I ever have from you. And that includes threads you yourself have created. Though to be fair there have been times where you replies made me laugh (in a good way).

You aren't important, you aren't special. Hell, you should be satisfied being somewhat "relevant" - even as fleeting as that relevance may be.

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Mindfux:

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What's the point proven here? That you can be a jackass? That you can get more attention for trolling than you do for your other content?


You took the words right out of my "mouth".
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#49721 - 02/25/11 03:31 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: BoBoBad]
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I also realized that if I want to advance I need to be challenged, taken to task, and made to ask the hard questions of myself. Being a big fish in a small pond is great. If you can't test out the bigger pool and see what happens, you will hit stasis. I refuse to stop on my journey, get comfortable and complacent.

My apologies, there was a cold breeze in my eyes.

So I was being told you are my female counterpart elsewhere in this virtual environment. Pleased to meet you. Always appreciated to have a new and attractive looking female face around. (All right.. body.. since I'm in for the hands on approach..).

It's in my experience that a comparisation between fields with a mutual underlying subject are best not to be compared on certain scales. Authenticity etc.. you can either jump in and go with the flow or jump in and drown. I first thought MCoS was the kind of river that allowed me to swim freely untill I later found out about this place and saw I was actually stuck in a small river and finally managed to jump in a flow with many interesting obstacles and cascades.

Just find out where you're niche is. As for SIN/600C stuff thingy going on.. some just have troubles with housenigger attitude. Don't make a big deal out of it.

General reply: pleasantly amused to notice the on-going verbal chaos before my eyes. As if Jason King was one of the sinister kind doing what we do best.


Edited by Dimitri (02/25/11 03:38 PM)
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#49722 - 02/25/11 03:36 PM Punchline [Re: Jason King]
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Hey King,

You wouldn't happen to know the punchline to this joke would you?

A naked blond walks into a bar, with a poodle under one arm, and a two foot salami under the other. She lays the poodle on the table. Bartender says, "I suppose you won't be needing a drink." The naked lady says...

I saw that in a movie once... I always wondered how it ended.
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#49727 - 02/25/11 03:47 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Dimitri]
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 Originally Posted By: Dimitri
some just have troubles with housenigger attitude.


Dimitri, what the hell do you know about cotton picking nikka? Ain't no housenigga or fieldnigga in Scandinavia for you to look at to understand the difference.

You know what a housenigga is? It's a nikka banging Satanism online. Sheltered. Never get his hands dirty. All dressed up in a bow-tie Mr. Whitie gave him. Grinning like a monkey cuz he's in a house serving the white devil.

Fieldniggas don't come online. If they do they can't spell shit and don't congregate online to philosophize and shit. A fieldnigga of any kind - Satanist, Sinister Initiate, or cotton picker - wouldn't give a fuck about the shit going on in forums. You wanna observe some fieldniggas go read around thehoodup.com you'll find me there.

Damn forumnigga.


Edited by Caladrius (02/25/11 03:53 PM)
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#49731 - 02/25/11 03:55 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Gattamelata]
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 Originally Posted By: Gattamelata
 Originally Posted By: Jason King
Nirmanakaya - Expression
Sambhogakaya - Extension
Dharmakaya- Relativity.


The first two are vanilla - but Dharmakaya equals 'relativity' ?!

Amuse me with an explanation, will you?



Buddhism is such a beautiful thing, even when over-simplified. Or better yet, over worded to make it look like more than it really is. Original like hell.

Where does the rest of this stand? Right in the same pile as the prior.

Can someone take out the trash now?
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#49737 - 02/25/11 04:02 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Caladrius]
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Dimitri, what the hell do you know about cotton picking nikka? Ain't no housenigga or fieldnigga in Scandinavia for you to look at to understand the difference.
Wish I lived there.
But feel free to try again, I'll give ya a hint: we are from the land down under. Holders of a new world record which was quite hilarious and disturbing to the citizens.

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You wanna observe some fieldniggas go read around thehoodup.com you'll find me there.
I'll take a look at one of my ranches and how my slav.. errrr... employees are doing. Besides, fieldniggas belong on the field not on the interwebz. You can lend my whip, but don't get too kinky with it on me or you might become just a little bit whiter and that would be quite a bugger to the niggahood.


Edited by Dimitri (02/25/11 04:04 PM)
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#49740 - 02/25/11 04:15 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Dimitri]
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 Originally Posted By: shugz

Fieldniggas don't come online. If they do they can't spell shit and don't congregate online to philosophize and shit.

I done taught myself readin' and writin' in the old shed behind the field...

Hell, my cotton pickin' skills wouldn't be half of what they are otherwise ;\)
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#49744 - 02/25/11 04:25 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
 Originally Posted By: shugz

Fieldniggas don't come online. If they do they can't spell shit and don't congregate online to philosophize and shit.

I done taught myself readin' and writin' in the old shed behind the field...

Hell, my cotton pickin' skills wouldn't be half of what they are otherwise ;\)


LMAO!

There goes the thread. It's devolved into cotton picking.

If there is any forum online that makes you say "What The Fuck" its that hoodup forum I mentioned. It's a fun place to troll. It's like you got all the 3rd graders from some poor inner city into a forum. No spelling or grammar in sight and 90% of the posts makes absolutely no sense.

I end my post with a quote:

As a hardworking fieldnigga once said: "can't we all juss get along?"
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#49748 - 02/25/11 04:46 PM Re: Dharmakaya and Relativity [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King
Sure. The most basic dualism (ma-rigpa) is that of subject/object, this is Relativity. World-relative to-Self. As it is the most simple of mayas, it is the one which collapses into Advaita (nonduality) directly as a quantum/monad (Kether reflected backwards through the mirror of Daath). And advaita is the rigpa of Dharmakaya (the Aleph of the Ain).


Whoah, easy on the quabullach-hookah there, Tantrika. If you consume too much of that you will sooner or later find yourself using averse I Ching hexagrams to explain why the lhatong into the most mysterious number of 108 is nothing but an easy stretch of a minor movement of Qi Gong.

Viz: thanks for the explanation. We are amused. Now, forgive me for asking, but why use the most riddled nomenclature, an amalgam of vedanta sanskrit, tibetan words and qabalastic terminology, to explain this ontological idea of yours?

What's wrong with shunyata as the rigpa of Dharmakaya?
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#49757 - 02/25/11 06:25 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Jason King]
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Trying to type while laughing, this is some funny fucked up shit.

"You know I have one because you've already sent me quite a bit more than a quarter.... blah more bullshit blah etc... you still failed."

Whatever, you are simply deluded in this regard.
I am who I am, and you have simply lost a whole lot of credibility with this troll like behavior/mess.

We all know you were comparing yourself to Zack who was banned here. I just think you didn't expect to be so bluntly called on it. Trying to change it into something else doesn't work. You failed at bait and switch.

It's sad and funny, you are now a back lit troll.
You failed.

Morgan


ps:
BoBoBad, keep up with the posting, it shows a lot of character that you decided for yourself what to do. I hope some of the other guys follow your lead.
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#49765 - 02/25/11 07:51 PM Re: Too many replies, so little time . . . [Re: Morgan]
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LOL! This thread is still going!

I think Jason has been trying to use a shoddy and bargain basement form of Lesser Magic. The prob is that many can see through it.

Dude, if your work is good, then it sells itself with very little self promotion.

But anyway carry on - this is the funniest thread the 600C has had in ages!

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#49766 - 02/25/11 07:56 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Beast Xeno]
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@Beast: I guess I misunderstood the intent of your "forum v. network" post, but when I referred to not seeing the constructive intention, I was talking about this:

 Originally Posted By: Beast Xeno
This kills me man. You offered a little perspective, hoping to kindle some thought. It was met not with deliberation or discourse, but with snobbery. Sad.

Anyone who expects Y to take "I'll take X over Y any day" as an invitation for serious constructive discourse has all the social graces of a child with low-functioning autism.


 Originally Posted By: Jason King
 Originally Posted By: Morgan
Mindfux, and the thedeadidea are the only people who's writings actually stand out, and I enjoy reading.
Good, me too. And either one of them might be happy to enlighten you on possessive pronouns vs. conjunctions.

I think you mean contractions, King. If you're going to call someone out on the basis of minor typing issues (which is a desperate bitch move), you at least need to get your own shit straight.


 Originally Posted By: BoBoBad
I also realized that if I want to advance I need to be challenged, taken to task, and made to ask the hard questions of myself. Being a big fish in a small pond is great. If you can't test out the bigger pool and see what happens, you will hit stasis. I refuse to stop on my journey, get comfortable and complacent.

^^My thoughts exactly.
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#49767 - 02/25/11 08:37 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17

Anyone who expects Y to take "I'll take X over Y any day" as an invitation for serious constructive discourse has all the social graces of a child with low-functioning autism.


I agree! In fact, it comes off rather as a JoKe.

\:\)
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#49776 - 02/25/11 10:20 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Fnord]
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After reading this entire thread the only thing I can think to say is...

Nuh-uh my dick is the biggest one of the bunch.

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#49778 - 02/25/11 10:26 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: thedeadidea]
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 Originally Posted By: thedeadidea


Nuh-uh my dick is the biggest one of the bunch.


This is insufficient. Some of us demand photographic proof of this claim.

Some of us may have heard otherwise.
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#49780 - 02/25/11 10:44 PM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Caladrius]
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 Originally Posted By: Caladrius
 Originally Posted By: thedeadidea
Nuh-uh my dick is the biggest one of the bunch.

This is insufficient. Some of us demand photographic proof of this claim.

Here's that proof: TDI just drove by.
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#49842 - 02/26/11 08:56 AM Re: The Official Butthurt Thread ® [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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There's a park near Fort Sill were a bunch of geese like gather. I've had a few dates were my girlfriend and I go buy a loaf or two of bread and feed the geese. I never thought it was much fun, but I can see why other would enjoy it.

What's the relevance to this thread? It seems to me like everyone is throwing bread to the trolls. Is everyone enjoying themselves? I’ve enjoyed watching the trolls snap at your legs. ;\)

As funny as this thread is, why is everyone bothering to respond? Why not just let the troll starve and end all this embarrassing nonsense?

And before anyone can say "You responding with 'Why are you responding?' is a response, thus your response doesn't make sense," I didn't bring any bread with me, so don't ask.
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#49847 - 02/26/11 11:07 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King
I'll post this here simply because I've said it, and I'm always to the face . . .

 Originally Posted By: Jason King
I don't know about the "quality of content"" seeing as how I've only been on 600 for a couple of months. What I *do* know is that on 600 there are about 3-4 "visionaries" and about twice that number of "smart cookies". It makes for a dialogue of mausoleal (just coined by JK, all royalties on future use are reserved) proportions. And I don't care what anyone says, you *can* split an adjectival phrase with a parenthetical and people won't lose track.

Here on SIN, the content is fresh, the faces real, and the difference between "blue" and "white" is nonexistent. 600 is a black and white TV — sure it's good for the sharpness of contrast and nostalgic feel, it was surpassed as a model a long time ago. The color TV, and lately, the digital multimedia network have gone waaaaaaaay beyond these things. "Smart cookies"? Yeah we have those too. "Visionaries"? Of course. But ours are better guaranteed. I'd take a Beast Xeno+Ego Diabolus over a Jake999 and 6Satan6Archist6 any day of the week, and there wouldn't even be a twinge of a second thought.

But the real difference lies in the *others*, as the "familiar faces" of SIN tend to be real individuals, if you know what I mean. I guess there is something to be said for that whole cross-networking thing after all. I'll take a BoboBad over a Dimitri every single time — one is simply more real than the other.

Sure, 600 has it's draws, no question about it. But the best of these is still little more than a tired warhorse running his victory lap. Here on SIN, we have yet to meet the gaze of Medusa, if you will. The really brightest of us are actually members of both sites, but the "where we post what" thing is so telling. These are the same that understand the I in SIN has an occulted meaning as "Independent".

Ultimately, only time will tell which, if either of these media, has passed the test. So far 600 has stood the test of time in a way that SIN can only aspire to. In this I agree with DD. But I also read dem tea leaves purty darn good… .

JK


Have fun, 600.

JK


I figured I'd go full circle, since the point-by-point takes all day, and JK just ends up taking all the kiddies' goodies.

The OP began, "I don't know about the "quality of content". And it ended, "Have fun, 600."

This was an invitation to come participate in in piece of performance art, and I must say, I'm satisfied.

Seven pages in two days, who does that? JK, that's who. Which again, brings me roundabout . . .

There are many here who have helped me prove a point - thank you all, I couldn't have done it without you. The fun part is when I consider the fact that most of these were hostiles. Didn't matter, they were led to the shiny thing long enough for it to work. (for the idiots: the "shiny thing" was not JK).

It was innocuously put to me a while back that 600 is "better". No. It isn't. Not in a pissing match with SIN, but in a pissing match with one guy.

I realize that despite what I've been told, there are quite a few "special-ed" kids here that can't read between the proverbial lines, so I'll bottom-line this kindergarten-style:

I replied to someone who said 600 was better than SIN in quality of content.

A simple post that could've been ignored to effect.

Instead, that post became the hottest topic in six months or more.

Those who came onto the field (and honestly, +50 respect to those who DIDN'T) only served to solidify the point of OP. They chose to work against themselves in ignorance. Pawns.

Better? More noble? Hardly. It's the same shit everywhere, it's just a question of who can USE the shit to effect (back to OP and the meta-issue nobody wanted to address).

You can hate JK all you want - like I patted dude on the back for, I AM the bad guy - but until you do better . . . until you move shit on the board for simple amusement, you can take a number.

JK
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#49850 - 02/26/11 11:14 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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I think this thread has gone a little to far to try to rhetorically spindoctor it, Jason. Sometimes it's best to just pick up your teeth and evaluate what went wrong.


All I have to say man is it's a real shame your ego imploded. You had potential here.
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#49851 - 02/26/11 11:25 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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@ Jason King
A victory is one where you come out stronger and the opponent eliminated. As the dust settles, I saw the King wasting hours of his life in pointless trolls and his reputation smashed. You won nothing.

Checkmate against Jason King.
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#49852 - 02/26/11 11:34 AM SINful Trends in 600sville [Re: JysusCryst]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord
Satanism ....has a core that is undeniable and ancient.

Rebellion? Socially it is novel. There are those linking it to Illuminati extraterrestrials no doubt.

 Originally Posted By: Caladrius
Is Satanism a static phenomenon where a new generation must keep it the same shape and form as they have gotten it from the older generations? Or else it changes into something different?

Since it emerges from every individual bringing it forth, what is passed on is, at best, enthusiasm, and those who call for orthodoxy are traitors.

 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17
...the youth are the future, but I'm not yet sold on the idea that we're always moving in a desirable direction over time.

Moving with herds, one is liable to be carried into unfamiliar lands. If unlucky and you pick the wrong species of comrade, right over a cliff.

 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
What is important is how well a tool serves us and as long as it does just that, all the rest is of little relevance.

Precisely, and that service will mesh with different needs in different ways.

 Originally Posted By: Beast Xeno
 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
...it is the duty of the young to attack the old, question or reject it, and aspire to something new.
... In that, why is introspection not something readily cherished?

It is not cherished. People run from it, and may have to be dragged to it kicking and screaming. In a context where turnover is 2 weeks, the 'old' tend to be whoever hangs around sniping at the rest longest.

 Originally Posted By: Gattamelata
...Dharmakaya equals 'relativity'?!

In a Subjectivist cosmology, reality is relative. It's the New Age, man.

 Originally Posted By: Gattamelata
What's wrong with shunyata as the rigpa of Dharmakaya?

It's trite, pat, and doesn't allow for the ultimate reality of ego.

 Originally Posted By: Jason King
...what exactly counts as a 'troll'{?}

I do! You're lookin' at 'im.

 Originally Posted By: JysusCryst
Why not just let the troll starve and end all this embarrassing nonsense?

It became a feeding frenzy.
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#49855 - 02/26/11 11:39 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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So you make a troll thread and then feel like you accomplished something when people responded to it?

Your greatness amazes me.

That's sarcasm, in case you couldn't tell.

If you're the king then I am a fan of regicide.

Think about it.
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#49863 - 02/26/11 12:03 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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As my last (general) reply to this thread, I'd like to post a photo which captures the very essence of this all quite nicely.



Think about it.

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#49864 - 02/26/11 12:07 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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This is/was and entertaining thread on several levels. If someone wishes to consider people joining in on the festivities as “taking the bait,” so be it. That opinion doesn’t take away from the entertainment value that it offers.

In this case it’s kind of like watching one of those movies that are supposed to teach you some kind of a life lesson. One might walk away at the end thinking that they haven’t learned anything, but still enjoyed watching shit blow up, while the writers and producers can believe that the audience actually cares about the lessons behind the theme.

Some clowns perform their act and might believe that the audience can read a deeper meaning into clown-ness, but most of the audience is simply enjoying the clowns stumbling around and making funny noises.
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#49869 - 02/26/11 12:27 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
I think this thread has gone a little to far to try to rhetorically spindoctor it, Jason. Sometimes it's best to just pick up your teeth and evaluate what went wrong.


All I have to say man is it's a real shame your ego imploded. You had potential here.


Here? What is that, Dan?

I'll tell you exactly what it is: making friends while appearing intelligent.

My problem is that I actually AM intelligent, and I could give a fuck about making friends. You can paint it to me any way you'd like, but the stats don't lie. I ran (and lol, despite my attempts to put it down, STILL run) a topic better in kneejerk-response than any topic of late. That speaks to all of you more than it ever will to me. Everyone knows I'm a troll/dramawhore/lunchmoney-takin/silly ass-clownin motherfucker. And yet . . .

Pick up your teeth. FUCK YOU. You should probably at least try to knock them out first. And that doesn't just go for the small you, but it holds for the collective you wish to cower behind. I get point-counterpoint, and I've counted it roughly at JK-7-8 vs. Everyone Else at 4-5. When you factor the (600 is awesome! it's the mega-collection of uber-cool Satanic peoples and what not!) insurmountability of it all, the slight advantage-JK is even more awesome.

Oh, but wait.

You're the latest to jump on the bandwagon, I get it. So far I've seen at least three people I give half a shit for turn their backs on me. All good. And yet, as good as it is, none of it nullifies any point I've either made or haven't.

LOL at the dude sittin' on the bleachers, standing up when everyone else does.

Why settle for three when you can have over twice as many?

If you desire an even semi-potent rejoinder, you might try hitting a point for a change. Playing the "Simon Says" game will always result in fail.

JK
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#49877 - 02/26/11 12:45 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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 Quote:
So far I've seen at least three people I give half a shit for turn their backs on me.


Awwww, are you going to cry about it like a little bitch?

If you were even half the bad ass you claim to be you wouldn't need the help of others. Yet, here you are, whining that no one came to your rescue.

Back peddle, back peddle, back peddle.
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#49881 - 02/26/11 12:52 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Jason, I have not 'turned my back on you', whatever that is supposed to mean. I also haven't jumped on any bandwagon.

I think you need to assess this situation with a cooler head, and maybe give some thought to why some that you respect responded how they did. Hint - it has nothing to do with 'the 600 club'
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#49886 - 02/26/11 01:16 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
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So far I've seen at least three people I give half a shit for turn their backs on me.


Awwww, are you going to cry about it like a little bitch?

If you were even half the bad ass you claim to be you wouldn't need the help of others. Yet, here you are, whining that no one came to your rescue.

Back peddle, back peddle, back peddle.


Funny. Except you ignored the sentences immediately following in my quote on purpose.

"All good. And yet, as good as it is, none of it nullifies any point I've either made or haven't."

And you haven't either. Go back to the watercooler and get some better advice for the rejoin.

JK
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#49887 - 02/26/11 01:19 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King

Those who came onto the field (and honestly, +50 respect to those who DIDN'T) only served to solidify the point of OP. They chose to work against themselves in ignorance. Pawns.


Personally, I wasn't playing games. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt because people I respect said you are the real deal.

Honestly, anything you say from here on out is going to result in a shoulder shrug from me as the antics displayed here have frankly made me indifferent to anything you say. I recognize that this represents no real loss to you and I'm glad of that. We'll just have to part ways in disagreement about a lot of things.
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#49892 - 02/26/11 01:32 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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All good and yet you felt the need to complain about it anyway. Makes perfect sense.

You made no point, you never had one. All you did was prove that you can act like a douche bag and get a response for it. Good for you. Go make a YouTube video about it. I'm sure all the other internet Satanists are greatly anticipating getting their next cue from you.
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#49901 - 02/26/11 02:34 PM Re: SINful Trends in 600sville [Re: nocTifer]
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 Originally Posted By: nocTifer

Rebellion? Socially it is novel. There are those linking it to Illuminati extraterrestrials no doubt.


The questioning. That inherent thing that makes one seek and overcome boundaries and obstacles. The refusal to accept the status quo (faith).
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#49905 - 02/26/11 02:42 PM Re: Really? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
All good and yet you felt the need to complain about it anyway. Makes perfect sense.

You made no point, you never had one. All you did was prove that you can act like a douche bag and get a response for it. Good for you. Go make a YouTube video about it. I'm sure all the other internet Satanists are greatly anticipating getting their next cue from you.


6Satan, he doesn't get "IT". There isn't an ounce of self-actualizing in that kind of delusional mind. I almost feel sorry for the dear boy. At least on YT, he can blither away in some diatribe, not ever having to be faced with someone actually addressing the twisted Buddhist/Satanism bullshit he's shoveling, or whatever else he's decided is almighty important. The lack of interaction in the real world is showing more than he'll ever understand.

Ya know what's funny? My 9 year old's YT videos are more entertaining. He even includes the "fail" mentality, although not in everything he produces. He's gotten away from that all ready, for the most part. LMFAO
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#49974 - 02/26/11 11:44 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King
You're the latest to jump on the bandwagon, I get it. So far I've seen at least three people I give half a shit for turn their backs on me. All good. And yet, as good as it is, none of it nullifies any point I've either made or haven't.


When Venus Satanas created a shitstorm on SIN, her first complaint was that everyone who was bashing her was just following the leader (you). The idea that there were any legitimate criticisms or grievances against her from that vast consensus didn't enter her mind. It's funny how drama has the same script every time around.

If I'm one of those folks you think has turned a back on you, you wouldn't be the first to make that accusation. Most define loyalty as taking sides with someone no matter what. I have a different definition...

For he who freely magnifies what hath been nobly done, and fears not to declare as freely what might be done better, gives ye the best cov'nant of his fidelity...
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I'll stand by you when I think you're right, but I'll let you know when I think you aren't, regardless of what everyone else is doing. Trying to make it personal isn't going to change my mind any more than popular opinion does. Integrity is a bitch like that.
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#49982 - 02/27/11 01:05 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King


My problem is that I actually AM intelligent, and I could give a fuck about making friends.
JK


I don't get it. Why are you trying to convince us that you are intelligent? Several people on this forum have told you as much. Are you having a problem convincing yourself?

Also, it is pretty obvious you don't give a fuck about making friends. The whole thread is proof you have lived up to that proclamation. So what is left to say? You prefer SIN over 600 Club - So, why are you still creating drama here? There must be something in it for you..... Are you a sadist desiring to get a few good punches in before you leave or masochist desperate for a good cyber-beating so you can get off?

FYI - no need to answer these questions. My 'Give-a-fuck-meter' just bottomed out.
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#50004 - 02/27/11 11:29 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
All good and yet you felt the need to complain about it anyway. Makes perfect sense.


I mentioned something. You call it a complaint, but that was not how it was ever presented. Except by you. Again, so much here illuminates the collective "you" moreso than it ever will give you a piece of the JK menscript.

 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
You made no point, you never had one. All you did was prove that you can act like a douche bag and get a response for it. Good for you. Go make a YouTube video about it. I'm sure all the other internet Satanists are greatly anticipating getting their next cue from you.


Funny. Except the dichotomy you imply above implicates you as well, Mr. 6Internet6Satanist6. And, ironies abound, as this was actually the POINT of this exercise.

 Originally Posted By: Nyte
he doesn't get "IT". There isn't an ounce of self-actualizing in that kind of delusional mind. I almost feel sorry for the dear boy. At least on YT, he can blither away in some diatribe, not ever having to be faced with someone actually addressing the twisted Buddhist/Satanism bullshit he's shoveling, or whatever else he's decided is almighty important. The lack of interaction in the real world is showing more than he'll ever understand.


Always the same from you folks. So much for being the "playground of the intellectual elite," or whatever. The key phrase above being: "not ever having to be faced with someone actually addressing the twisted Buddhist/Satanism bullshit he's shoveling". EXACTLY. Rarely is it admitted that a person's ideas were left un-addressed so that simple herdlike ad hominems could be put on the table instead.

 Originally Posted By: Nyte
Ya know what's funny? My 9 year old's YT videos are more entertaining. He even includes the "fail" mentality, although not in everything he produces. He's gotten away from that all ready, for the most part. LMFAO


Yeah, and my 19 month old son has more brain power than you "Nyte". See how retarded that sounded? Probably not, you strike me as being a lobotomized sheep who somehow thinks they are a wolf.

 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17
It's funny how drama has the same script every time around.

If I'm one of those folks you think has turned a back on you, you wouldn't be the first to make that accusation.


Indeed, drama is funny. What's even more funny is the way people gravitate to it. "Quality of content" my ass. And if you went back and read everything posted (including how I translated the OP from a comment to DD on your very own blog on Morgan), you will see that this thread is a win on the points for JK, regardless of the barking hyenas.

Your independence of thought is always laudable, XG. But not everyone has this measure of honor. Think about it.

 Originally Posted By: LucyFur
I don't get it. Why are you trying to convince us that you are intelligent? Several people on this forum have told you as much. Are you having a problem convincing yourself?


Yeah, that's it. You've got dude pegged completely.

Except for one thing. Us.

When you did that (i.e. used the 1st person plural) you undercut your own identity in lieu of the collective. I'm glad I could solidify that for you, Lucy.

To the remainder of the Borg hive:

I posted something that was neither slanderous nor defamatory. It was a response to a response to a response . . . elsewhere. It poked. It drew comparisons, both of Satanic accomplishment and also networking power moving forward.

Exactly none of you (past page 1) addressed points being made, preferring to address the man himself. And like I said, ALL GOOD. I'm pretty good with the insult-machine, so that can be done ad infinitum, but we tire. And yes, that was a legitimate plural of majesty.

However, in doing so, BeeHive, you do no better than prove my point (yes, clown6, there is one).

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#50006 - 02/27/11 11:57 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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Being fairly new to this site, I don't even know you so I am not attacking 'you'.

I can only judge 'you' by what you write, however, and the word 'TROLL' pops into my mind when I read your posts. I don't need the 'hive' to tell me you have a huge chip on your shoulder as you continually flex your cyber muscles, provoking animosity.

Just a tip - There is no need to be pedantic in order to prove your intelligence. Being civil and respectful of others, even when you disagree with them, makes for more productive discussion. That is not 'hive' thinking, it is a proven method of making the forum experience pleasant and enjoyable.

In any case I wish you well on your path and hope that you find what you need on SIN.
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#50008 - 02/27/11 12:59 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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There you go again, overestimating your own importance. Why would anyone want a "piece" of you?

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the dichotomy you imply above implicates you as well


Not exactly. I'm not the one who wrote a mediocre book and made a bunch of stupid YouTube videos in an attempt to be a "mover and shaker" or a "big name" in Satanism.

You, on the other hand, have gone out of your way to try and make your presence online known. I'm guessing it's probably because your real life is unsatisfactory and pretending to actually be something online makes you feel accomplished. Sucks to be you.
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#50011 - 02/27/11 01:21 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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The original point I made, that fuelled this butthurt drama queen bullshit thread, was that the quality of content in the forums here is much higher than at the forums of SIN, and I think that is self evident. I'm not sure how getting a rise out of people through trolling shows otherwise.

Though there are some that 'get it' at SIN, the forums there are clogged with mundane bullshit and teenage rabble simply because there is nothing preventing that from happening the way there is here. No standards of quality, no moderation, just a free for all. That is not without it's appeal, but the dynamic is quite different.

The collective IQ here is simply higher(as the fat is often trimmed), and the content here reflects it. This place has close to two decades of battle hardening, while sin is only 8 months old. Even this thread shows the truth of it, at SIN there is no way JK would be handed his ass like this. What was the point of this thread again?
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#50019 - 02/27/11 02:29 PM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Sorry for butting into this highly intellectual conversation but..

 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread

Though there are some that 'get it' at SIN, the forums there are clogged with mundane bullshit and teenage rabble simply because there is nothing preventing that from happening the way there is here. No standards of quality, no moderation, just a free for all. That is not without it's appeal, but the dynamic is quite different.


I tend to think the reason for this is a lack of communication between admins. Also, it's youngster age.

 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
This place has close to two decades of battle hardening, while sin is only 8 months old.


Quite correct. Aside from the Jason King thing that is going on here.. on the topic of SIN, because it is so young in age, maybe it's merely a test of time that will harden it. Going back into 2007 of the600, I've noticed things have gotten much tighter here even in the past 4 years. I'd like to see the same at SIN but only time will tell.
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#50048 - 02/27/11 07:56 PM Re: For the record . . . [Re: Jason King]
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#50051 - 02/27/11 08:34 PM Re: Whatever [Re: OrgasmicKarmatic]
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 Originally Posted By: OrgasmicKarmatic
Going back into 2007 of the600, I've noticed things have gotten much tighter here even in the past 4 years. I'd like to see the same at SIN but only time will tell.

No disrespect to anyone but quite the opposite has happened. 5-6 years ago before Samuaels breakdown this thread would have been locked and deleted. Many threads would have followed suit.

Unless of course I am just remembering things differently.

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#50097 - 02/28/11 09:45 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Dan_Dread]
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 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
The original point I made, that fuelled this butthurt drama queen bullshit thread, was that the quality of content in the forums here is much higher than at the forums of SIN, and I think that is self evident.


Yeah, you made that comment on SIN and nobody got butthurt. I replied there and cc'd said reply in the OP here, and quite a few people got butthurt. And that fact only solidifies the futility of your point, while at the same time demonstrating mine.

 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
Though there are some that 'get it' at SIN, the forums there are clogged with mundane bullshit and teenage rabble simply because there is nothing preventing that from happening the way there is here. No standards of quality, no moderation, just a free for all. That is not without it's appeal, but the dynamic is quite different.


There is mundane bullshit on every forum or network out there. One of the hottest topics on 600 a month ago was "favorite porn sites," which is about as mundane and teenage rabblish as possible.

 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
The collective IQ here is simply higher(as the fat is often trimmed), and the content here reflects it. This place has close to two decades of battle hardening, while sin is only 8 months old.


Really? 600 was around in 1991?

As for the collective IQ thing, again, no. If you said "pound for pound," I might agree, but even then, it's actually not as relevant as you make it seem. Too high a proportion of "big dicks" tends to make things overly dry (point also made in the OP)

 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
Even this thread shows the truth of it, at SIN there is no way JK would be handed his ass like this.


Being outnumbered in a game of The Adhominems does not equate to getting one's ass handed to them. At best it shows that the OP was unpopular, and yet the TC managed to make this hottest topic in months. That's not a fail, bro, it's a win.

 Originally Posted By: Dan_Dread
What was the point of this thread again?


Rhetorical questions are always fun to answer, you know, just to piss in the coffee pot. The point of the OP (insofar as being posted on this site) was stated in the last sentence therein: "Have fun, 600." As the fun started getting underway, the point of my continued replies shifted toward two things: addressing any points with an equal measure of respect/disrespect (and if you scroll through, you will see I do this each and every time), and in doing so, give you (all) something to think about with regard to the high horse you want 600 to be.

Like I said, performance art. A collective effort illustrating that even here, in the hallowed halls of 600, drama reigns supreme whenever it rears its head. None of us can escape human nature, and part of that is rubbernecking at the proverbial train wreck. I've seen many micro-examples of this here, but they are usually swept under the rug of "we just don't give a shit about stupidity". Our collective work in creating this epic thread proves otherwise.

You began by saying 600 is better than SIN. My response: no it's not. This thread proves it. And THAT was the point. Now fucking think about it.

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 Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6
There you go again, overestimating your own importance. Why would anyone want a "piece" of you?


You should probably ask yourself that question, seeing as how you keep coming back for more chicken wings.

 Originally Posted By: 6Balls6Mouth6


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the dichotomy you imply above implicates you as well


Not exactly. I'm not the one who wrote a mediocre book and made a bunch of stupid YouTube videos in an attempt to be a "mover and shaker" or a "big name" in Satanism.


In other words, you have done nothing. I knew this already. Even if my book was mediocre, and my videos stupid, I have still done that much more to manifest Satanism than you ever will. And don't tell me you drive a Bentley, I ain't buyin' it.

 Originally Posted By: 6Balls6Mouth6
You, on the other hand, have gone out of your way to try and make your presence online known. I'm guessing it's probably because your real life is unsatisfactory and pretending to actually be something online makes you feel accomplished. Sucks to be you.


Ahh, the old "I'm on the internet, yet, you being on the internet=fail" argument. Pathetic.

JK

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#50099 - 02/28/11 10:48 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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I have to say after this post, without regard to your footsy play with 6, that overall I liked the game, and I might just retract my statement about having no further use for your ideas.

You failed in turning 600 into an all out drama laden flame war (you received many well thought out replies), but you did succeed in appealing to the base elements in play (and in pointing them out).

I walk away with food for thought at the end of the day, and offer a hat tip to JK to credit where due.

Bottom line, I won't be posting at SIN and I don't think anyone will prefer one way of communicating over another (forum vs Network) as a direct result of this thread, but it did (end game exposed) have merit to those who might choose to pay attention.

Just my opinion, mind you. I don't speak for 600 or for any greater quantity than myself.
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#50100 - 02/28/11 10:59 AM Re: King to Rook-1: checkmate [Re: Jason King]
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Nearly 10 pages of reiterated bullshit. The only one inciting the drama here is you, JK. Simply because others are responding to it in kind, does in no way make your 'case' that SIN > 600C.

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