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#5054 - 03/09/08 12:19 AM Serial Killers
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I'm sure I'm not the only one that shares a fascination with them. While doing some online shopping, I came across a few sites selling crime related "muderbilia". Maybe I am late to the party, but I thought I would offer up some links in case anyone else was interested in bidding on a lock of Charles Manson's hair and signature, or a Richard Ramirez letter. One site offered plenty of prison kites. Slips of paper used by inmates to communicate with one another. Who wouldn't want to bid on Haddon Clark's jockstrap or used bar of soap and razor? Keep your hands off the portrait of Elvis by John Wayne Gacy. I want that.

muder auction
daisy seven
supernaught

BTW, sites like these may soon be illegal, so shoppers, act fast.
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#5056 - 03/09/08 01:04 AM Re: Serial Killers [Re: fakepropht]
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You're not the only one. I, for one, share a deep fascination with most serial killers -- including Australia's very own infamous killers Ivan Milat and Mark Brandon "Chopper" Read. I've always been a keen collector of murderbilia, so I thank you for the links.
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#5084 - 03/09/08 08:27 AM Re: Serial Killers [Re: DaVinci]
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Choppers an interesting choice of 'serial killers'. I always thought he was the stand over king of disinformation.
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#5087 - 03/09/08 09:37 AM Re: Serial Killers [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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 Originally Posted By: ZephyrGirl
Choppers an interesting choice of 'serial killers'. I always thought he was the stand over king of disinformation.


He's infamous as being a stand-over man; but even he admits to being a serial killer. He's done more than the public knows about and, as I've met the bloke personally (good friend of the father's), I've had many a chance to have interesting conversations with the man.
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#5101 - 03/09/08 01:20 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: DaVinci]
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I personally never saw the fascination other than possible studying their mental state. Each to there own I guess.
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#5147 - 03/09/08 09:29 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: TornadoCreator]
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I'd have to say that I agree with you on this topic.

The only interest I'd have in serial killers is finding out what the reason for their murderous intent is. Other than that, I've got no interest in it. Having "memorabilia" of them would kinda creep me out.
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#5362 - 03/12/08 06:16 AM Re: Serial Killers [Re: DaVinci]
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He's infamous as being a stand-over man; but even he admits to being a serial killer. He's done more than the public knows about and, as I've met the bloke personally (good friend of the father's), I've had many a chance to have interesting conversations with the man.


I'm sorry, but I just can't take your word on this. You can't just write something like that, on a site like this, without something to back it up. That would be like me telling you about the time I fucked Russell Crowe.

Without proof, would you beleive me?

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#5372 - 03/12/08 10:31 AM Re: Serial Killers [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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#6274 - 03/23/08 08:12 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: fakepropht]
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I remember going to Ozzfest about 5 years ago and seeing Jonathan Davis' trailer of serial killer memorabillia. He had letters, art, clothing, and other personal effects that he had collected. I heard that he sold it all a few years back; apparently it was bringing too much negativity into his house. I wouldn't be surprised if you found some of his stuff on those websites.
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#6280 - 03/23/08 10:22 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: devul]
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Doesn't Davis have John Doner's car or something like that? For the whole fascination of phycotic killers just turns me off. I do enjoy learning about their motives. I enjoyed learning about that one hit man, I forgot his name but they call him The Ice Man. He was a mafia hit man and from the biography I was creeped out. How can a human be so deranged to do those things to some one else? I mean I'll kill for what I believe is to be a right cause. My family, my possesions, my country, but to be a serial killer, wow. But I also got to think that the people that are bidding for their crap has got to be a little twisted themselves. The only thing I would own from a serial killers would be Gacy's art, he painted some disturbing pictures.
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#6282 - 03/23/08 11:25 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: Pan420]
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The Iceman was not a serial killer but a hired hit man... It was a job... He was creative at storing the body's of his victims therefore disguising the actual time of death...

Richard "Iceman" Kuklinski (April 11, 1935 – March 5, 2006) was a convicted murderer and notorious contract killer. He worked for several Italian-American crime families, and claimed to have murdered over 200 people over a career that lasted thirty years. He was the older brother of the convicted rapist and murderer Joseph Kuklinski.

Richard Kuklinski wiki

I see a difference...

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#6325 - 03/24/08 08:42 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: ta2zz]
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Well I, like many others here, have a fascination with the minds of serial killers. A few people may even notice that my name is actully drived from one. I like thinking of why they would have done it or how they would have done it. I like reading about the whole situation. The victims, forms of murder, etc. Finding out the exact motives and what drive ssomeone to commit the acts, in serial killers who do not talk, is always innacurate and mysterious.

There's just something not right about serial killers, something strange. they can be the most normal people ever, hold down a decent job, family, house, and life. But one day they snap. It's interesting for anyone to try to think of what`would have caused them to do the damage they did. It's 'different and unusual' to what everyone else is. Personally I think it's a type of subject with the label "You need to have gone through it to understand it*. Because its true that most people cannot and will never understand why people snap. Psychologists and the like can always claim they know, most only offer theories. Because, In truth we can only offer theories. They can never say why someone else did something. Sometimes not even the serial killer themselves know why.

Yah sorry, do I talk to much? I don't know I'm just stating my opinions and such, I hope it doesn't bug people too much? >____<.
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#6366 - 03/25/08 04:00 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: PigFeeder]
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Yes the minds of serial killers hold many fascinations but the one that most interests me is their reason, common sense, whatever you want to call it. Some are repentant for their acts, but many of them are not, because they don't consider it wrong and I find it completely (for lack of a better word) fascinating.

How do they develop this sense of right and wrong? I mean, seriously, most normal people ask HOW can they do such a "deranged" thing like that, but to them (the serial killers) it was not deranged at all. It is as if the whole world was upside down and one person helped out a homeless person (sorry, I am probably ranting by now), the rest of the world would be totally against it because it was "wrong"...

Who knows what right and wrong is anyway? What could be right for you is wrong for other people so how can you make up laws that encompass everyone when everyone's sense of right and wrong is different. Granted, the majority of the world has everything all straightened out but what about those of us that do not?

Some killers snap...others just like the taste of blood, the rush of power, the feeling of playing god. They, ahhh, I lost my point...I'm thinking it was along the lines of maybe serial killers have some of it right??? Sorry if I wasted your time, but I would have wasted mine if I did not post this after writing so much.
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#6367 - 03/25/08 05:16 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: PansGirl_v2.3]
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Well granted that no one should be able decide what is right and what is wrong, but a human life should never be the hands of another human being. What gives one person the right to take anothers life? 'Cause he wanted to disembowl the woman he should be able to practice his craft', that's bullshit. There has to be a line between death and murder. Serial killers see nether. I can imagine that there is people out in the world that are terminaly ill and want to die, but due to some countries human rights laws they are denied that service of being uthanized. Those people should get together with some of the serial killers and have a blast. Two parties getting what they want out of it. Nothing deranged by that, huh.
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#6372 - 03/25/08 06:39 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: Pan420]
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Those people should get together with some of the serial killers and have a blast. Two parties getting what they want out of it. Nothing deranged by that, huh.


I have a terminal illness and at some point I may even want to explore euthenasia, but to think that I might 'get together' with a serial killer, so that he can have a blast at my expense is totally preposturous. You have absoloutely no understanding of what you are talking about and should probably shut your hole at this point.

Euthenasia is not about suicide but about leaving life when you choose peacefully, so as not to have to suffer like a dog.

I doubt that helping someone leave peacefully would be high up on many serial killers agenda.

Zeph
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