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#6376 - 03/25/08 07:28 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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I think someone should be allowed to die if they so wish. Suicide or euthanasia. Your life is your life, and as logn as your not physically hurting anyone else, do what you will. It is our life to do what we want with, have a blast.

Wow the forementioned sounds coincedentally close to another murderer I know of. I have misplaced the name but, some of you ay remember. He was the one who had placed an Ad, asking for someone willing to die and be eaten. A individual, believe it or not, replied with a yes. They got together and it happened. The whole act was video taped, the victim was sodomized, mutilated, murdered, butchered, and the meat was frozen and eaten over time. I wont go into details, but the whole situation sounded quite deranged. I've always wanted to know what they were thinking when commiting such acts. As mentioned above, the serial killer doesn't always think he's wrong. Or in some cases, they think they're doing a good deed, justice to society. Such as a mass murder of prostitutes or gays.

Throughout history we see it time and time again. The KKK, mass murdering numbers of people because it seemed the right thing to do. The Salem Witch Trials, or widespread witch hunts. These were parties all with the same ideal of ridding something 'bad' from the society by exterminating it/them. The difference between these groups and the serial killers is that they are doing the job solo for the most part, and there isn't a group that know the common goal. Just one, maybe two people. So that leaves anyone questioning, why did they do it?

I guess that's always the big question. When someone performs an act out of the conformity of soceity's level of norm, as individuals and as a society, we want to know why!? I guess it's the nature of humanity, to be curious.

Curiosity killed the cat ..?
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#6473 - 03/27/08 01:06 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Well I didn't mean to offend. I was just saying my point. Cause I don't belive in euthenasia, I believe it to wrong. Yeah to suffer is horrible, but I believe that a person should pass naturaly. Everyone could argue a good point, but it all comes down to opions. I have alot of things wrong with me. The doctors don't give me that long to live, but I would rather take my pain killers, smoke my pot, drink away the pain and what have you to get through the day. Cause despite everything I still look forward to tomorrow. And thats that.
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#6480 - 03/27/08 03:42 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Why can't I decide, in my universe? Satanism is all about the self, isn't it? Ignoring the not harming others unless they harm you or you can't harm children, Why can't I kill someone because I want to? What gives one person the right? Yourself... Deranged is only a word for abnormal. Normality is just a figure of how many other people are/like/do the same things you do. Why villainize them just because they have a different point of view and aren't in the normal range of things?
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#6482 - 03/27/08 04:06 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: Pan420]
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Well your point was neither intelligent or well thought out. Two of the things that are expected of posters here. I wasn't offended, I was just pointing out that serial killers hardly want to help people go 'peacefully' or without pain. After all, serial killers often tourture and terrify their 'victims'.

You never hear stories of poeple who were 'saved' the stress and pain of a terminal illness because they became the prey of a serial killer.

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Cause I don't belive in euthenasia, I believe it to wrong. Yeah to suffer is horrible, but I believe that a person should pass naturaly.


Well I'm sorry that you are still holding into your Christian beleifs. But YOU SAID maybe people with terminal illness should get together with serial killers so they could all have fun. It had nothing to do with euthenasia and whether it was moral or not, so don't try to back pedal with pathetic off topic counter arguments now.

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#6483 - 03/27/08 04:14 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: PansGirl_v2.3]
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Why can't I decide, in my universe? Satanism is all about the self, isn't it? Ignoring the not harming others unless they harm you or you can't harm children, Why can't I kill someone because I want to? What gives one person the right? Yourself... Deranged is only a word for abnormal. Normality is just a figure of how many other people are/like/do the same things you do. Why villainize them just because they have a different point of view and aren't in the normal range of things?


Are you talking to me? Because your comment has nothing to do with the post I wrote.

But seeing as I am already replying. Yes me. I have as much right to protect me and mine as anyone does to try and take my life away because they want to kill people and hurt children. So yes I shall victimize one that is bad for my community and family as such.

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#6484 - 03/27/08 04:21 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Actually I wasn't but sure, you have a right to protect yourself and serial killers have a right to try to get you.
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#6485 - 03/27/08 04:26 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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mmmmm, zephygirl you're preaching to the quire <- figure of speech.
Protecting yourself, tormenting, victimizing, or otherwise inspiring a murderous instinct within a human are all things that upset even the laziest of us. We all have a panoramic view of what murder, or death should be like (one reason we are here), what our versions "betray" are the people close now. Only because we have such a broad spectrum to analyze, we can draw opinions and emotions from the ideas here, or without threat or giving in to emotion we can analyze, and sub-analyze, true education, from debating and opinions. I agree, we're saying the same thing zephyr.
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#6486 - 03/27/08 04:28 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: Kon]
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I think I'll be off to email homicide detectives now, research a bit of criminology, and write an entire manifesto on my educated opinions on this matter.

Edited by Kon (03/27/08 04:28 PM)
Edit Reason: yea right! lmao
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#6490 - 03/27/08 05:28 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: Kon]
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mmmmm, zephygirl you're preaching to the quire


quire? I assume you mean choir. LOL. It gave me a good giggle though. I thought I was bad at spelling.

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#6526 - 03/28/08 10:15 AM Re: Serial Killers [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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A smiling face is good to see from time to time, thanks Zephyrgrl.










Edited by Kon (03/28/08 10:17 AM)
Edit Reason: removal of childishness
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#6565 - 03/28/08 07:41 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: PansGirl_v2.3]
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 Originally Posted By: PansGirl_v2.3
Why can't I decide, in my universe? Satanism is all about the self, isn't it? Ignoring the not harming others unless they harm you or you can't harm children, Why can't I kill someone because I want to? What gives one person the right? Yourself... Deranged is only a word for abnormal. Normality is just a figure of how many other people are/like/do the same things you do. Why villainize them just because they have a different point of view and aren't in the normal range of things?


Can anyone say Psychotic?..

The urge to kill and harm others is NOT normal. And it is not anyone's right to harm another person. If you feel like harming then hurt yourself. I agree with Zeph, I will villanize them if they hurt my friends and family. As would anyone else. I am not making them out to be a villain for there different point of views. In today's society, acting on barbaric feelings and inhumaine impulses is something I thought we should have passed by now. For all the intelligence man says they have gained, look how far we've actually gone backwards... So your saying it's correct and ultimately there choice if they would like to roam around murdering and harming whom ever they see fit. So your friends, your lover, your family, are all people you would have sacrificed to satisfy this one person? That I am sorry to be the one to inform you, IS derranged and demented.

And by the way. Just so you know. One word, depending on the situation can mean many thngs. Deranged, can often also be used as a means of describing a psychotic individual who atcs irrational and barbaric on clouded emotions and thoughts.
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#6584 - 03/28/08 09:48 PM Re: Serial Killers [Re: PigFeeder]
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In today's society, acting on barbaric feelings and inhumaine impulses is something I thought we should have passed by now. For all the intelligence man says they have gained, look how far we've actually gone backwards


If your 11 year old daughter were to be snatched off the street and bruatly raped, you would stand by and let the (in)justice system handle it? Perhaps I misunderstand your reply. But in my world, you wrong one of mine, you pay. By my hands. I will not let some stranger who gets paid a living to handle cases handle my case. What does he care? Get paid, add to resume. Ask Ron Goldman if he feels he was served justice.
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#6600 - 03/29/08 07:31 AM Re: Serial Killers [Re: fakepropht]
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Well I must say you make a good point and I do secretly follow the eye for an eye theory. If someone hurt one of my friends or family then yes, I most likely would with all my knowledge that I have, walk up to him and cut his throat open. BUT that is a case where I find an exception. However, this is not the case 95% of the time with serial killers, they go around killing random chosen victims that they find, match the standards they want. I mentioned above that an individual killing out of retaliation I could understand, and do not shun it. For if this is the reason, they are doing it out of compassion and love, then they have emotions that most serial killers are not without, but, do not surface within them.

When I said inhumaine impulses, I meant just the want to randomly kill whomever they choose. So in that part I am actually contradicting myself. When I said retaliaion, I meant in retaliation to not only themselves. As in revenge, I believe in revenge, but not in stupidity. do what your going to do, but judge the situation and asess the damage done. Act accordingly.
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