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#51016 - 03/15/11 12:55 PM Earning the "badge"
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OK, right off the bat, I have to come out and say that this is no trolleration or panty-fight, there is a point to this. If the mods (Skaf, Nemesis, Morgan, Woland) feel it should be deleted, so be it.

That having been said, how many "white people" here are posting simply to get a "blue name"? I see a lot of activity from a couple of bright people, but it seems as though these persons are trying a bit too hard at something.

Is there a point where the LHP degenerates into the RHP? A point where the lone wolf figures it needs a pack to survive?

Food for thought/deletion/mockery, your choice . . .

JK
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#51017 - 03/15/11 01:02 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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Personally I would find it silly if someone was posting solely to get a "blue" name, since, and I might reveal a secret, there is no special prize attached to it.

Colors, as I see it, are there for functionality, they serve a purpose here. Of course they are granted when someone meets certain criteria but anyone jumping around all day long screaming "ME ME ME!" isn't really meeting those.

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#51019 - 03/15/11 01:37 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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I think it's a valid question, JK, and might answer some questions which others may have in regards to our 'system'. We're certainly not trying to be secretive about it, and I for one would like to make clear that ours is a merit-based system, not one in which post-count or length of time spent here is factored into the decision.

The selection process generally follows along the lines of--

A discussion of a potential Blue member is brought up amongst the other Blues and Greens.

Both positive and negative attributes are discussed. Do the good ones outweigh the bad? Most can easily discern whether a person is posting out of attention-whoredom. White members who try and pull that kind of shit (quantity over quality) are rarely even considered.

If potential is seen, but the candidate needs a bit of "growing up" to do (ie, posts without backing up sources, jumps the gun, etc) they are kept in mind for a future Blue suit.

There is also a matter of how a candidate would best reflect upon The 600 Club. If a White suit is intelligent, makes provocative posts, engenders thoughtful discussion, but is a Jew-hating vegan conspiracy theorist who tries to hack into the forum out of spite--obviously that's not the kind of person we're looking to have ;\) Fanatics of all stripes are prone to impulsive decisions and are generally untrustworthy.

However, Blues (even Greens & Reds) are not immune from criticism and our particular brand of discipline. If one steps too far out of line in their conduct in regards to the site or another member, it is not swept under the rug and ignored. Granted, it takes a bit larger of an offense by a Blue/Green/Red to warrant a cyber smack-down, but it is dealt with accordingly.

We try to choose our new Blues & Greens wisely, in order to reduce the likelihood of the above scenario playing out too frequently(if at all).
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#51021 - 03/15/11 01:53 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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What does a blue name actually do? I had the page up when I first came here but I can't remember what the statuses were except that the green guys are the administrators. My ideal status would to be able to spell check my posts for a longer time.

I think the administrators ought to be corrupt, to demote the status' of whom they decide are trying to corrupt the site. I actually wish I was deleted sometimes so I can start again with a more professional presentation. I could have condensed some of my ideas too.

I'm happy with a white status and never want to have blue one because It'd make me look weird like I was on forums too much. The people I like to read from on here would find out that I spend too much time reading stuff on the computer and not getting to the gym enough, becoming a hermit obsessed with occultism ha!

I'm still new to the internet in 2010 and this forum is the second one I have been on and so very much more interesting.

To be honest I read the one liner rule and really try and get as much in with one post as I can because of this and often start asserting my own views aggressively into other topics, it's because I just have an intrinsic value in drawing others to my philosophy.

I'd like more people to write honest real life experiences on here with examples of their dark arts rather than to debate theoretical ideas predominantly. I'm not saying this forum is lacking in anything at all, in fact this is great to compliment my own scholarly pursuits with diversity and with dialectical sythnthesis I can test some ideas before I put them to paper as it were, that we all can do with.

I'm wanting to read your 'post-modern Satanism' book Jason, I only get one book every few months, if that, and the last bunch were Nietzsche that I was sick of reading on the computer screen. I'm not made of money to buy books and have to choose. I feel the day goes so so fast now more than ever, and I try and read what I have here at home and there's never enough time.

This forum and things online about chaos theory and cosmology absorb my attention.

That being said, I have always been a loner and a arrogant one at that, I feel this forum is good for breaking down my hostility to others and I appreciate peoples posts here immensely. They would be off the top of my head, Diavolo, Caladrius, SkaffenAmtiskaw , Jake999, Paolo Sette.
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#51022 - 03/15/11 01:56 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Nemesis]
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I found the question stimulating enough to explain some of my views upon this a bit deeper.

While at first sight, colors might indicate to hierarchy and indeed, at some levels, that might be, the deeper aspect of this distinction might not be that obvious to many. Of course I look upon it from my perspective and a decade of not only participating but also observing this place.

A good database is not defined a such because of all the functions attached, but because of the data it contains. With forums it is rather similar. A good forum, or at least what I consider good, isn't so because it has a zillion posts or thousands of users but because it has the data required to become good. This data is the very backbone of a forum and in our case, this data is represented by the steady users, some of them frequenting and contributing since years. We all are the living data here. It is not only the colored ones but also whites that are as much a part of the forum as us. This place has grown through trail and error and nowadays, the colored are a pretty stable backbone and that is our strength. Of course Xear keeping interest and paying the bills is what keeps us on-line but the backbone keeps the club functional and, if I may say so, quite a good forum.

Many might think the blues are one clique, all taking the same side when needed, but this is far from true. We are quite diverse and it is not uncommon we vehemently disagree. But this very diversity, at a personal or ideological level, defines what is possible on the board too. Some might disagree with certain views or ideas from users, but because others agree with them, it all levels itself out. Of course we all agree upon some basics. If there is no control on what is posted, sooner or later it will be covered with shit.

Others might be stimulated to become part of the colored backbone but, as they will find out, none becomes blue because they like to be. First, time is a factor. In the past we occasionally were too quick blueing someone up and it was a mistake at times. Also, we're not really preparing for world domination in that special section and besides some trivialities, we occasionally mention personal shit. We prefer to be sure that those who are able to read it, can be trusted to not use it against us outside of the Internet. Again, experience is the mother of knowledge. Only those who are considered to have “it” and in such become an addition to the backbone are suggested and it is not always because one suggest someone, they get “upgraded”. We speak our mind freely and when someone doesn't agree, he will shoot the suggestion down. And even then, we don't level anyone. It is done higher up the hierarchy and whatever they decide, we agree. That keeps the system healthy.

So while some might find there to be a certain cool surrounding colors, I see functionality.

Of course we could say that colors aren't required and that without them, this unnecessary distinction wouldn't be bothering others, or tempting them. But let's look at a forum like a schoolyard for a moment. Even when all are pupils and none has a special position or rank, this appears only so at first glance.

When looking deeper and observing behavior, you'd notice there are cliques everywhere and, Will to Power of course, they will manipulate or dominate the others, or at least try. As such, even without colors, there would be groups and ranks. There would be those who drive others away, those that are considered the elders, those that are the young. And there are those desiring to be part of those groups.

There would be rank and hierarchy but it would manifest differently.

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#51023 - 03/15/11 01:59 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Nemesis]
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It should also be noted that most of the people who are "promoted" to the blue suit are seldom aware of being considered. The pretentious, those who "feel they deserve it," or outright ask for it, and those who post simply to post are rarely considered. When it happens, it's generally a surprise to those to whom it is given.

One of the worst things we can do is give the blue suit to someone simply because they show up, or have been here "x" number of days, weeks, months, etc., or because they think they'd make a spiffy Familiar or Moderator. Such would cheapen the concept and weaken the site.
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#51027 - 03/15/11 02:10 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jake999]
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I agree, I feel this site is the best one for Occultism but i would feel wierd with a blue name like I had a responsibility to do certain jobs or something that I'd mess up because I've an inability to plan anything.

The other Occult sites I had a look on were dead, especially that MySatan which is a shame because there was three people on there who were making very good posts that ought to be moved onto this site. Posts by a character called 'Worthless' and 'Vindex' were so very good and now I can't access them because I'm not on that site anymore.

I really can't see why that MySatan site pretends to be all private and you need confirmation to join and nobody can look at the forums when it shows your mug shot to the world on shitbook that you're a Satanist anyway.

This 600 Club has a secret forum that I just noticed a few days ago '600 Club', I am not sure if I want to know what's in there, is it secret Illuminati stuff!, I bet there's dodgy as fuck stuff in that forum...

I don't want in there it'd give me immense pressure to use my brain more than usual, I try hard enough as it is. The level of intelligence I find on the normal forums on here is still too much for me sometimes.

Plus I know the secret, it's all one man who uses different profiles and colours to develop his superhuman mind, he has to do this because in real life if he acts as too many personalities people will know he's multiple personality. It's all that Xear guy I tell ya', he's all the coloured names, he's a super brain! Seriously though, it's hard to tell who you're talking to, I think the video webcam thing was an idea and I think to get a blue name you have to go on cam in the vid room and be subjected to a invasive questioning and grilling by moderators ha!
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#51029 - 03/15/11 02:18 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias
This 600 Club has a secret forum that I just noticed a few days ago '600 Club', I am not sure if I want to know what's in there, is it secret Illuminati stuff!, I bet there's dodgy as fuck stuff in that forum...


Most of the time we share cooking recipes. ;\)

The secret place is mainly used as our decompression tank. If what we read makes us feel as if our brain has been too long and too deep below, we go there to recover. And it is a control chamber, warning when missiles from C.R.A.P. are hitting the forums.

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#51030 - 03/15/11 02:38 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Hegesias]
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Personally I would find it silly if someone was posting solely to get a "blue" name, since, and I might reveal a secret, there is no special prize attached to it.


Yeah, that.

I know that when I joined it was out of boredom and started posting to alleviate that boredom. It's no secret that during my beginnings here I rubbed a lot of the wrong people the wrong way. I didn't care then and I still don't care now and I stick by my actions. I just kept doing what I do and was surprised when I got my blue suit.

And if anyone is posting simply because they want the "promotion" I suggest channeling that energy into accomplishing something real.
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#51032 - 03/15/11 02:47 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King

Is there a point where the LHP degenerates into the RHP? A point where the lone wolf figures it needs a pack to survive?


Speaking for myself (which is all I should do), I don't post any differently now than I did when my user name was white. If, for some reason, I were to lose my blue suit tomorrow, I wouldn't post any differently than I do now. The blue suit isn't supposed to indicate a hierarchy (unlike the green), it's only meant as a nod of respect/appreciation for thoughtful contribution to the site (sort of like the 'featured' members at SIN).

The blue suit is also no indicator for group think, as has been pointed out. We disagree with each other all the time (as evidenced quite widely on the boards).

As for becoming RHP... I'd have to ask what you mean, specifically, by that? I don't know of anyone here whose path is defined by someone else, nor do we have any 'followers'. We're basically a loose gathering of people with similar ideas and ideals but all are distinctly different (and one doesn't hide behind another as implied). I think this is a case of a lone wolf (or several) choosing company for a time versus a situation where (s)he feels as if it were a necessary thing for survival.
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#51043 - 03/15/11 04:27 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias

I'm happy with a white status and never want to have blue one because It'd make me look weird like I was on forums too much.


Well you have written almost half as many posts as I have in your one month here. It's taken me over a year and I'm not at 500 yet.

You might start looking like you spend too much time on the forums after all, whatever color your user name is \:\)
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#51048 - 03/15/11 07:00 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Fnord]
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It's really much adieu about nothing. It's a matter of respect to those that others feel have contributed something of worth, stand out, and can maintain these things over time. Behind closed doors we have LaVeyan types, ONA types, Thelemites, Setians, and many shades of grey that fall in between these things.

The most many of us have in common is the colour of our usernames.

As per the original point, yes..there have been MANY kissass brown-nosers that have hidden their intention to be 'enrolled' quite poorly over the years, but in so doing they have eliminated themselves from consideration anyway. In that context, the colour divide acts as a filter for stratification.

Speaking for myself, the first time I had my name turned blue it was quite unexpected, as I wasn't too concerned with making friends or tiptoeing around the 'right' people. Nothing changed for me, and that is the whole point.
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#51050 - 03/15/11 07:07 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Fnord]
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It's all about quality. There are a number of Blues that don't visit often, or even post much. However, their character speaks to their caliber. I don't contribute as much as I used to and there are other sandboxes I play in, proverbially speaking. This isn't the only show in town, but it's the best.

If one is out to "earn" a blue suit, chances are you won't get one. If one is respectful, insightful, and able to communicate well, you may get a backstage pass...but it's far from a "badge." It's not an award. Viewing it as such will only lead to disappointment.
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#51067 - 03/15/11 09:02 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Octavius]
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I certainly never joined the 600 Club to chase some promotion.

I joined because this was one of the rare places where I could spend some time with people who shared many of my own views.

This is a place for me to discuss and explore questions which I just cannot explore in the outside world with its social conventions and moral rules.

It is also a place where blueprints can be drawn for implementation in the real world; where a type of training can take place if that is what one is into.

It is also a place for me to chill out and get away from all the bullshit I have to deal with on a day to day basis.

I also joined because there were and are serious people here who I could learn a lot from. Some of these people have made significant contributions to my thinking and I will acknowledge that.

I can honestly say that I do not care about acquiring status in this place, nor do I ever wish to be considered for elevation to Familiar status or any other status here.

I came here because, in a sense, I had to.

To Jason, you are a smart guy and some of your posts here and some of the threads you have started here have been some of the best I have read. I invite you to drop any issues you may have and come back and get back to work with some productive and useful shit.

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#51077 - 03/16/11 01:58 AM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: ]
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I asked "if I could be considered" a long-ass time ago, but was politely declined by a mod who explained it was solely on a basis of invitation. I didn't inquire out of narcissism or hubris, I was simply curious about what went on in the "super special awesome forum".

About a year later I was given the blue tag. I was pleasantly surprised, but didn't exactly go on an ego trip either. Honestly, it's not that amazing. There's no nose-snubbing conspiracies or ass-patting circlejerks going on behind closed doors, so don't you worry your pretty little head.

In fact, the blue color is a downgrade, if anything-- it makes your name harder to read that normal "white" posters.
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#51083 - 03/16/11 05:02 AM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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Upon seeing the title of this post I thought it was yet another rand on "getting that Satanic batch". Was a bit surprised to see it was about the colorfull names some have.
Most have given the answers (which quite frankly have been given and explained in the rules and guidelines of this board).

The main reason I respond here is that I am wondering what has led you to pose these particular questions.
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#51089 - 03/16/11 09:09 AM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Dimitri]
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 Originally Posted By: Dimitri
Upon seeing the title of this post I thought it was yet another rand on "getting that Satanic batch".


Huh?

 Originally Posted By: Dimitri
I am wondering what has led you to pose these particular questions.


Whenever I post a thread, it is simply to see who responds and how they rejoin. This one has been enlightening. I've enjoyed reading many blue replies on what said status means (or doesn't mean) to them.

I've also enjoyed the psychology of who responds to what. I say this because there is one person (among several) who I was indicating in OP that didn't reply, and another that I wasn't (MatthewJ1) who did. Group dynamics, bro. An experience from which to learn . . .

And to this:

 Originally Posted By: Fnord
As for becoming RHP... I'd have to ask what you mean, specifically, by that?


I'm almost sure I didn't say "becoming," but what I meant is, again, as above, group dynamic. On this very short thread, I've seen several persons refer to a "blue suit" - that is group dynamic. A terminology was implanted, and it stuck. The larger question concerns who wants to belong and why?

I'm reminded of a "larger" conversation within Satanism vis a vis individuality vs. conformity. Although the former was pure LaVey, his successors have twisted this into an orthodoxy complete with excommunication. But like every good Christian, they can defend their silly behaviors with proof-texts and the like.

JK
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#51091 - 03/16/11 10:09 AM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King

I'm almost sure I didn't say "becoming,"


Well, when something degenerates, does it not lose something of value that makes it different than it was when it was valued? If so, then does it not 'become' something else (of lesser value)?

Anyway, not to overquibblate ( \:\) ) terms, I think the study of group dynamics within Satanism is a great idea and I think you've got a very valid point RE: C/S modern day. That's why I like this place so much (and SIN is growing on me). Lots of different kind of folk with no bucking for titles and no widespread ass kissing.
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#51099 - 03/16/11 12:11 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Fnord]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord
 Originally Posted By: Hegesias

I'm happy with a white status and never want to have blue one because It'd make me look weird like I was on forums too much.


Well you have written almost half as many posts as I have in your one month here. It's taken me over a year and I'm not at 500 yet.

You might start looking like you spend too much time on the forums after all, whatever color your user name is \:\)

There is no hope I like this place too much...


I reckon if I had a blue or green name I might get less stalkers. I've had 2 this month and a new one this morning. I know we have a hall of shame but we could have a hall of stalkers too, I wonder if 'Hellphoto' is on here, he deserves to be in both.
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#51182 - 03/17/11 05:41 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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If you have to ask for a blue badge, you will never receive it.

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#51191 - 03/17/11 09:34 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Morgan]
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Hegesias, you have "stalkers" because you spend so much time online. Do you even realize you are resonding to just about every thread ever started here and those that haven't been responded to in months, sometimes years? You need to find a hobby or something. Maybe then you won't have "stalkers".
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#51193 - 03/17/11 10:25 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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JK, I was wondering why you were so nihilistic here earlier. Maybe this is why. Your post has a relaxed “fuck it all” style that I find refreshing. You go, girlfriend!

The whole “blue suit” thing reminds me of a screenplay contest I was recently involved in. I entered my strongest effort, paid my fee and waited. I got an email saying I was a semifinalist, top 32 out of more than 850. Whoopee! Next week, I found out I wasn’t a finalist. Oh, well. The frustrating thing was that I didn’t even know what the others had submitted. I could’ve been beaten out by white hot geniuses or by total losers. It was probably some of both, the whims of judges. Whatever.

At the end of the day, it’s not about color. It’s about being true to yourself. I left the Temple of Set a first degree. To this day I wear my white Pentagram with pride. To me it represents a new attitude (props to Patti LaBelle). The world bows before me, a babe living the first day of the rest of his life. No one can take that away from me – unless, of course, I let them.
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#51206 - 03/18/11 07:09 AM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: William Wright]
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 Originally Posted By: William Wright
JK, I was wondering why you were so nihilistic here earlier. Maybe this is why. Your post has a relaxed “fuck it all” style that I find refreshing.


The last thing I am is a nihilist. Everything I do has purpose. It may seem that I give fuck all about XYZ at time T, but if that were true, why would I be involved in XYZ at all? My approach is one based in complete self-confidence mixed with a heavy dose of adversarial antinomianism (go figure). I not only seek to be challenged, I seek to challenge everything outside of myself.This does come with its share of drawbacks, as you can imagine, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

Holy shit: six sentences, seven first person pronouns (nine if you count possessives and reflexives)! I must really like what I'm doing with myself, lol.

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#51207 - 03/18/11 07:12 AM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: William Wright]
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Actually JK, it is a good question. I think most of the other senior members already answered most of it. I would only add that this is a community of like minds and fellow travelers. In general, I would say that we enjoy each others company.

A while ago we had a video chat that turned into something of an online party. I like to think that perhaps the only thing that gets one elevated to blue is that if we had a party, would you get invited?

People who are boorish, who have nothing interesting to say, or would otherwise make a poor dinner guest will not get an invitation.
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#51212 - 03/18/11 08:27 AM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
I like to think that perhaps the only thing that gets one elevated to blue is that if we had a party, would you get invited?


Indeed. Thank you for putting to words what I had already intuited a while back. And to answer the rhetorical (just 'cause I do that type of stuff), probably not. After all, who really digs that dude running around pissing in everyone's coffee cups? But I didn't come here for recognition of any sort, I came here because MAA was here and also because DD thought this might be a place where I could be challenged adequately.

Holy Fuck! I seem to have developed a thing for the "I"s. This is really starting to suck; the last thing I want to do is devolve into Venger Satanis.

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#51214 - 03/18/11 09:35 AM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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 Originally Posted By: Jason King
 Originally Posted By: Fist
I like to think that perhaps the only thing that gets one elevated to blue is that if we had a party, would you get invited?


Indeed. Thank you for putting to words what I had already intuited a while back. And to answer the rhetorical (just 'cause I do that type of stuff), probably not. After all, who really digs that dude running around pissing in everyone's coffee cups? But I didn't come here for recognition of any sort, I came here because MAA was here and also because DD thought this might be a place where I could be challenged adequately.

Holy Fuck! I seem to have developed a thing for the "I"s. This is really starting to suck; the last thing I want to do is devolve into Venger Satanis.

JK
I rekon you ought to have a blue one, the governing body here likes to feel power from denying you a blue name ha!

What about annoying pink names for outcasts, like in the Nazi Holocaust camps where they ostracised the homosexual fellows with pink badges to dehumanise them even further before incineration? To sarcastic? naa.

I could never be trusted with a blue name, not because of modesty, but from actually thinking about it, I'm way to irresponsible and would see it as an authoritarian thing to screw with, I'm too immature when it comes to anything formal. I respect the mods here and that's fine and good for me, I don't need anything that will make my anti-authoritarian attitude worse than it already is, I respect the blue and green as much as the white and not because of equality but because of the posts they make.

What you want to do is, when you get your blue name, you start truthfully expressing your views blatantly, not the other way around ha!
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#51252 - 03/18/11 06:28 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Hegesias]
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Actually that night of the chat party there was a newbie in that room. He was cool, and shit was fine. He drank and spoke with the rest of us, even went to the store to get more beer. He was cool at that moment in time. I think that chat room party mess lasted over 6 hours. About 3 weeks later he lost his mind and said a bunch of threatening shit that resulted in him getting banned from the club.

So, just because we like you doesn't mean you get a free pass to a blue suit. It's something earned over time through posts, conversations, interactions, and reactions. It's not given to kiss-ups or hanger-ons or stalkers. Oh, and some people who would get that invitation Fist mentioned to the dinner party might find themselves locked out of the blue room forever depending on what was said or done at such party. It's like the key to the playboy mansion, you might get in to take a peek, but they change the password every week and they might never let you in again.

It's also not given out to people just because they have a fan club or anything else. It also takes longer than 6 months, and sometimes years to get a blue suit. There is no time frame for it. Plus once you lose the blue suit, it just becomes harder to get back if you even want it back.

"I rekon you ought to have a blue one, the governing body here likes to feel power from denying you a blue name"

In my opinion, he hasn't earned it. I don't know that he ever will. As I said before there is no real timeline for when one gets a suit. If he does come up for consideration, it will be discussed and voted on, and even then it may take a while to actual happen.

"What you want to do is, when you get your blue name, you start truthfully expressing your views blatantly, not the other way around ha!"

That would be stupid. If you can't be true to yourself and express your own views, that would be a sad existence. Such an attempt at intellectual fraud would be seen long before such a person reached the blue suit.

I hope this explains the process more clearly for those that desperately need to know how to get a blue suit from us verses going to a tailor.

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#51272 - 03/18/11 08:48 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Morgan]
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To be frank, I had high hopes for JK. I have followed his work on YouTube and emailed him to check out this site.

However, once he got here, things were off to sort of a rocky start. Again, basic social dynamics apply. Why would we invite somebody into the club that is going to blow up the social dynamic. I am mean, in most any social situation you can be a complete asshole as long as you are funny and know how to endear people to your cause.

In the case of MAA, I am pretty sure he had something like 2 posts before I recommended him. After all, does he really need to prove his bona fides here? Jake was promoted after a short time too, simply for being the genuine article. Everyday I burn incense in an old Sprite can and pray to the Outer Gods for Karla to grace us with here presence. But, with MAA here as a member in good standing, that just 'ain't gonna happen' - or so I am told. See, again - social dynamics.

For my part, I got an invite on the old site maybe after a few months. But again, Xear and FakeProphet are guys I would probably role with in the real world without a problem. I also really hit it off with Dev and was a fan of his work before he lost-his-fucking-mind. I still check him out on YouTube (and the spot on Dev parodies!). Kind of miss that cat....
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#51276 - 03/18/11 10:01 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Jason King]
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Registered: 10/21/09
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Loc: Amarillo, TX
 Originally Posted By: Jason King
That having been said, how many "white people" here are posting simply to get a "blue name"? I see a lot of activity from a couple of bright people, but it seems as though these persons are trying a bit too hard at something.


"White people" who are bright and have a lot of activity... why whoever could you be referring to, JK? Do you really care that much about what LucyFur and Tesseract are doing? ;\) For a to-the-face guy, you're bein' awfully vague.

My participation is on-and-off; I didn't see this thread until just now. Sometimes, I only have time for work. When I'm not working, I like to unwind, and this is a nice place to do so.

Right now I want to tie up loose ends, save up a bit, build my résumé, solidify my network, and get into UT law. I'd trade 1,000 blue jackets for any of those in a heartbeat. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: "Manifesting," to me, is about personal and professional success in real life, not impressing other Satanists online.
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#51280 - 03/18/11 10:47 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: "Manifesting," to me, is about personal and professional success in real life, not personal and professional success in real life.


"personal and professional success in real life" = "impressing other Satanists online"

All around the web there's lots of heady philosophical discussions about this-n-that. What one does with a head full of knowledge is what's impressive to me. Talk a good game and it might be entertaining. Execute a good game and it will be inspiring.

My 2 coppers.
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#51282 - 03/18/11 11:42 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Fnord]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord
"personal and professional success in real life" = "impressing other Satanists online"


Touché. The former is what really matters to me, though I know I don't necessarily have to choose between the two.

Of course, I can think of one figure who's reasonably well off in real life (financially--his personal life is sticky) but a laughingstock among Satanists online. I can also think of a very well known and much-subscribed online satanist whose life offline I do not envy. If my offline success is followed by a good online reputation, that'll be nice. If not, I won't lose sleep over it.
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#51284 - 03/18/11 11:47 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Morgan]
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"What you want to do is, when you get your blue name, you start truthfully expressing your views blatantly, not the other way around ha!"

"That would be stupid. If you can't be true to yourself and express your own views, that would be a sad existence. Such an attempt at intellectual fraud would be seen long before such a person reached the blue suit."

I liked the way you laid it out and made the points. I was just being humorous because I reckon Jason King is strait to the point putting his views forward well, I watched his video with his views on the Misanthropic Luciferain Order and he put it into context even though he didn't "seem" to understand why anti-cosmic Satanism would appeal to anyone, in doing so, he highlighted key points and put them in a rather pessimistic context as food for thought, but that's what it is and some of us work well in that current, it was quite necessary. I was pointing out that he does not have a blue status like many of us, and that he probably wouldn't be doing anything in particular to get it, he just seems to know his stuff and not talk any bollocks. I was just making a point that some might have seen.

I reckon it's good how moderators make things clear to everyone with an input though. It's very necessary.
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#51301 - 03/19/11 02:18 AM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: XiaoGui17]
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Registered: 02/08/11
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A modest request: could I please be left out of teh Innernette Drahmahz? I spend the majority of my time at The 600 Club reading the posts of others, looking for potentially interesting and useful information. And I figure if I’m going to be a member I might as well try to offer the same in return. Honestly, I’ve been using the web long enough that it really doesn’t take that long to forward and post something here I find of value elsewhere, and think might be of interest to other members.

Before this thread I didn’t know precisely what got a member’s name displayed in blue text, but assumed that with rare exceptions it required extended participation and a relatively high post count. On that premise I figured I most likely would not achieve that blue status, and just went about thinking about the topics raised in the better posts here, and posting when I felt inclined.

One final note: I guess even among Satanists, so many people just can’t resist feeding the trolls…

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#51409 - 03/20/11 03:02 PM Re: Earning the "badge" [Re: Tesseract]
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Loc: Amarillo, TX
 Originally Posted By: Tesseract
A modest request: could I please be left out of teh Innernette Drahmahz?


I didn't really mean to pull you into it; I was simply implying that I was the one JK was referring to. There are 3 folks with white names that made the "top posters" list, and I doubt JK was referring to the other two.
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