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#5104 - 03/09/08 02:10 PM ToS
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I just wanted to get some people's thoughts on the Temple of Set. If anyone is a member, and wants to talk, send me a PM.
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#5131 - 03/09/08 07:34 PM Re: ToS [Re: Nyarlathotep2012]
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Why? What is beneficial in speaking to members?

From what I have seen the Temple of Set remain a very diverse, yet secretive, organisation and will continue to be that way.
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#6702 - 03/30/08 02:11 AM Re: ToS [Re: Nyarlathotep2012]
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Nyar,

I have a couple of books in my possession that I’m sure you can find online if you search hard enough. “The New Satanists” by Linda Blood, and “The Magicians” by Gini Graham Scott. Together these give you a pretty accurate view of the ToS in it’s early days. There is a reason that they are secretive.

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#7830 - 04/16/08 06:50 PM Re: ToS [Re: Nyarlathotep2012]
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I am not a member of the Temple of Set, but I do have a great deal of respect for their organization. When I was younger and I became very interested in and active in the Satanic community (this would have been seven or eight years ago), I was a member of several Satanic organizations that will remain unnamed. After a few years, the bickering between members and the hugely over-inflated egos of some of their hierarchy became too much, and it began to seem like a waste of time to me. What started out as an intelligent community of like-minded people turned into a battle of politics and egos. If you chose to remain on the fence and be unaffected by their arguments rather than choosing their side, you became the enemy. It was all very childish.

The Temple of Set, however, I have heard nothing but good things about in the many years of conversing I have had with other Satanists. This is just my personal experience though, and is in no way a testimonial one way or the other. Honestly, if I actually had any spare time and room for another commitment in life, I would give serious consideration to membership there. However, I am a business owner and a writer among other things, and ultimately a workaholic. I don’t believe you should seek membership or affiliation anywhere if you cannot make at least a minimal commitment of your time and effort toward a contribution there.

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#8384 - 05/04/08 12:30 AM Re: ToS [Re: It'sJustMe]
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 Originally Posted By: It'sJustMe
Nyar,

I have a couple of books in my possession that I’m sure you can find online if you search hard enough. “The New Satanists” by Linda Blood, and “The Magicians” by Gini Graham Scott. Together these give you a pretty accurate view of the ToS in it’s early days. There is a reason that they are secretive.


What a bunch of bullshit. Were you sent here by Geraldo Rivera or Sally Jessie? Oprah? The Catholic League, maybe? Why on Earth would you recommend Linda Blood's The New Satanists ? You might as well be telling someone to read Michelle Remembers or books by Mike Warnke and other malicious liars, shit-disturbers, douches, and assorted Satanophobes. And it's probably not that you recommend the book that pisses me off so much, but the fact that you'd dare call such a book "accurate."

A book that is a staple of anti-Satanic conspiracy theory garbage. So, you believe in a Satanic pedophilia conspiracy? You believe Satanists are at the core of an international child slave/prostitution ring, and other such absurd nonsense that's been thoroughly debunked over and over again by the FBI, CIA, and countless other agencies the world over? Such is the explicit and implicit accusations that Ms. Blood levels on Satanism in general and the Temple of Set and Dr. Michael A. Aquino in particular in this book.

I'll tell you who Linda Blood is and was. A Freudian hysteric. And that's the nicest thing I have to say about her. Now, enough. I waste not one more drop of energy on such bologna.

I don't care what religious convictions you have, or political, or organizational, or whatever else the case may be, but when you endorse books such as The New Satanists or any other book of same standard, such as Satan's Underground or any other piece of garbage written by an absolute retard, then you cross a line and it not only stirs the residues of the Satanic Panic of the 1980s against the Temple of Set, but against every other Satanic-leaning organization or person, both real and imagined.

If you want to recommend Gini's book, then that's fine. I have more leniency there. I still think Gini was and is a misguided, insincere, and silly Jennyass, however. She joined the Temple of Set under false pretenses for one (a liar), and thus automatically destroyed all her credibility. Her angle from the start was to write a book and make a profit, she was never interested in anything of a spiritual nature. Just an inept anthropologist/journalist pretending to be an occultist and writing about a topic she didn't understand.

However, if anyone is truly interested in anything having to do with the Temple of Set, then I suggest that you read Dr. Micheal A. Aquino's The Church of Satan which you can find online in .pdf form, and its unfinished companion The Temple of Set , which you can also find for free online in .pdf form. I also suggest that you read Lords of the Left-Hand Path: A History of Spiritual Dissent by Stephen Flowers, Mysteries of the Temple of Set: Inner Teachings of the Left Hand Path by Don Webb, and even Uncle Setnakt's Essential Guide to the Left Hand Path by Don Webb.

Also, this link here goes to a page that fully debunks Linda Blood's book The New Satanists : http://www.balanone.info/bloodbk.html

I'm done.

P. S., I know this is only my third post here and that I'm new, but I can't seriously see myself being reprimanded for putting someone in their place who seems to obviously believe in the SRA hoax of the 1980s, surely all Satanists should put their theological and philosophical differences aside when it comes to standing firm against such drivel. See the aforementioned link and you'll get a feel of what kind of stuff is in Ms. Blood's book that this user finds "accurate."



Edited by Xaulamyn (05/04/08 01:20 AM)
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#8398 - 05/05/08 06:48 AM Re: ToS [Re: Nyarlathotep2012]
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 Originally Posted By: Nyarlathotep2012
I just wanted to get some people's thoughts on the Temple of Set. If anyone is a member, and wants to talk, send me a PM.


Your best bet would be to visit their website and read as much as you can before deciding you want to talk to an actual member. Once you've gleaned what you can from the readings, and you still decide the Temple of Set is something you wish to become a member of, fill out an application form.

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#8404 - 05/05/08 12:24 PM Re: ToS [Re: SatanicCSG]
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 Originally Posted By: SatanicCSG
 Originally Posted By: Nyarlathotep2012
I just wanted to get some people's thoughts on the Temple of Set. If anyone is a member, and wants to talk, send me a PM.

Your best bet would be to visit their website and read as much as you can before deciding you want to talk to an actual member. Once you've gleaned what you can from the readings, and you still decide the Temple of Set is something you wish to become a member of, fill out an application form.

Is that not commonsense?
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#8405 - 05/05/08 01:33 PM Re: ToS [Re: ta2zz]
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Just as a general rule there is really no member of the Temple of Set who is going to let you know that they're indeed Setians, and not under any circumstances. It just isn't going to happen. And if they do, then it's probably a good bet that such persons aren't really members of the Temple of Set, but are just simply pretenders. Rather, you should operate on the possibility that someone MIGHT be a Temple of Set member, whether it's the guy on the subway sitting next to you or someone you're corresponding with over the internet.

Read their website, read their literature available to the public, and if you still have any questions or whatever then contact one of their representatives, such as Eric Kauschen.
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#8412 - 05/05/08 07:12 PM Re: ToS [Re: Xaulamyn]
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You have totally skirted around my question and dropped a name... Everything you say is clearly commonsense to one who walks with eyes open... To hand feed the goats only makes them fit for the petting zoo...

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#8413 - 05/05/08 07:20 PM Re: ToS [Re: ta2zz]
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I like to visit goats at the petting zoo.
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#8424 - 05/06/08 11:22 AM Re: ToS [Re: ta2zz]
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 Originally Posted By: ta2zz

 Originally Posted By: SatanicCSG
 Originally Posted By: Nyarlathotep2012
I just wanted to get some people's thoughts on the Temple of Set. If anyone is a member, and wants to talk, send me a PM.

Your best bet would be to visit their website and read as much as you can before deciding you want to talk to an actual member. Once you've gleaned what you can from the readings, and you still decide the Temple of Set is something you wish to become a member of, fill out an application form.

Is that not commonsense?


If it was that apparent for him, he wouldn't be here asking the question now would he? ToS members aren't going to let him in on anymore information than is on their main pages for all to view.

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#8426 - 05/06/08 12:57 PM Re: ToS [Re: SatanicCSG]
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 Originally Posted By: SatanicCSG
If it was that apparent for him, he wouldn't be here asking the question now would he? ToS members aren't going to let him in on anymore information than is on their main pages for all to view.

The world is lacking in commonsense, I thought Satanists were proud to be more intelligent than the common man...

To me it should be commonsense therefore it is almost not worth speaking on the subject... Of course if you are trying to show off your vast knowledge on the subject or dropping names to sound connected... Knock your socks off...

I guess somebody needs to feed the sheep...

Carry on...

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#8428 - 05/06/08 03:15 PM Re: ToS [Re: ta2zz]
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 Originally Posted By: ta2zz
I thought Satanists were proud to be more intelligent than the common man...


Most so-called "Satanists" I've met are basically retarded and not intelligent at all, ugly, plain assholes, lacking of perspective, counter-productively prideful, common people or WORSE than common people in that respect, jealous, full of shit, insecure, prone to petty argument and bitch-fight, and dogs who must piss on everything they come into contact with in order to display their "dominance." As far as I'm concerned they're not Satanists at all, and that's that. That's why I AM NOT A SATANIST, I want nothing to do with those people - that label is just the first step into a much larger world.

 Originally Posted By: ta2zz
To me it should be commonsense therefore it is almost not worth speaking on the subject... Of course if you are trying to show off your vast knowledge on the subject or dropping names to sound connected... Knock your socks off...

I guess somebody needs to feed the sheep...

Carry on...


Spoken like a true Marxist tactician, ta2zz. I suppose you're the same way when some old lady asks you for directions. I don't need you to lecture me on common sense seeing as you have not one iota of it.

I don't know about anyone else, nor do I care, but I for one know just how much you have revealed that you DO NOT KNOW, which from where I'm standing you know just about as much as a sheep yourself.

You seem to get off on calling other people sheep, like this person that I gave information to, but I for one have seen NOTHING of consequence from you, and I remain totally unimpressed.

If it makes you feel better to call people sheep, which you do in order to make yourself feel better about your own self, since you're indeed a sheep and a lackey yourself, then that's fine. It's very Satanic of you to do as your nature dictates, but just as equally [un]Satanic of you to do it at all, and especially to do it in the way you have chosen. But, whatever floats your boat, ta2zz. Each to his own.

My first point would be that I would rather "hand feed" someone the correct information, once they have solicited that they'd like that information, instead of allowing them to go off and find the incorrect information, as It'sJustMe was doing - giving incorrect information. My primary concern is to fight false information and to offer up the correct information, and not for anyone else's sake except MY OWN.

My second point is that I have "hand fed" nothing to nobody. Any information that I have given is totally unremarkable and I detect nothing "vastly knowing" about it, and I'm well aware that any retard with a computer is capable of getting that information, just as well as me. Any information I've given is blatant public knowledge, and according to what you deem to be "hand feeding" it would indeed be considered "feeding the sheep" whether it came from me or from the ToS website or anywhere else.

I'm a bit surprised that you consider the information I've given to be "vastly knowing," and speaks to how simple and easily an impressionable mind that you have. What? I recommend a few fucking books and tell someone they can contact a representative if the occasion arises? Fantastic!

You think the ToS is so silly and simple an organization that someone could possibly be "hand fed" into it? Please! I dare not dignify such a comment.

But, let me get down to what my response to you is REALLY about. I'm not responding to you because of this, but rather this has given me an EXCUSE to respond. Why? Because there's something I want to get out of the way NOW, that way I will not have to do it later.

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE, ta2zz.

The REAL REASON you're getting me off track and off topic and interjecting into this the way you are is for POLITICAL REASONS. This isn't about you disliking the "hand feeding of sheep", rather this is about me thinking that George Bush is a good President, and you and your little liberal ass can't handle someone who thinks George Bush is a good President. Therefore, every chance you get, in every topic, for the rest of my existence on this forum, you're going to be one of those little flies that are constantly hounding me every chance you get, for every tiny thing - anything your imagination can conceive. You don't like my views, my opinions, what I say, then tough.

Now I've gotten it all out of the way. I would of preferred to do it privately, but you're the one who had to do it publicly, and now it's over. I can now move on and so can you, and I don't have to respond to you any further or dignify anything you might type anymore.






Edited by Xaulamyn (05/06/08 03:23 PM)
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#8429 - 05/06/08 03:54 PM Re: ToS [Re: Xaulamyn]
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I am aware that I may go to their website, and have done so. I have been to Balanone's website and read much of their literature. I am also very aware that there are many things I would not be privy to about the organization unless I was a member.

Any amount of information can be found an any organization, even the ToS, if one looks hard enough for the information.

My question comes from the fact that I have a great deal of interest in this group, and simply wondered..since well I am in a Satanic forum, perhaps there would be a member who would be willing to discuss, not the intimate aspects of the organization, but more so on a personal level, how they have grown personally through this. If no one was willing to discuss it that is fine, it is a secretive group, and I figured upon asking the question I would get no Setian responses, but one can take a stab in the dark.

The information they put out is very impersonal, as it should be. The representative I spoke with a couple months ago was very unwilling to discuss anything other than whether or not I planned on joining and would take only questions about the application process, which again is understandable, but as I have come into contact with LaVeyan Satanists and heard that perspective tirelessly, I thought maybe, it would be interesting to speak with a Setian on a more personal level.


That is all
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#8430 - 05/06/08 05:01 PM Re: ToS [Re: Nyarlathotep2012]
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Nyarlathotep2012, I'm just relieved that, at least from where I'm standing, that you're indeed NOT a "sheep." Which is what ta2zz has implied you to be. I'm even more relieved that I've fed you nothing that you didn't already know. It's always promising to see someone who is capable of sifting through the weeds on his own.

For further clarification, think not that I gave you all the information that I did because I thought maybe you were too stupid to go out and find it on your own, but rather just to get the information out there for anyone else who comes along, but primarily to counter It'sJustMe whereas concerns his recommendations for information on the ToS.

Anything else can be said privately.


Edited by Xaulamyn (05/06/08 05:01 PM)
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#8433 - 05/06/08 06:07 PM Re: ToS [Re: Xaulamyn]
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I too have a great deal of interest in the Temple of Set. I have read The Church of Satan and The Temple of Set both by Dr. Michael Aquino. I'm actually reading CoS for the second time and I am now reading the 7th version of ToS. I almost feel like I know Dr Aquino on a personal level.

I have not been very much tempted to join the CoS because of their current "atheistic" stance. I don't expect that to change. I do admire the church, and Anton LaVey, for bringing Satanism into the light of day, however.

I am thinking very seriously about seeking membership in the Temple of Set. I would like to make acquaintance with a priest in the Church so that he or she can make a determination beforehand about whether I might fit in with the Temple.
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#8439 - 05/06/08 06:55 PM Re: ToS [Re: Xaulamyn]
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 Quote:
Most so-called "Satanists" I've met are basically retarded and not intelligent at all, ugly, plain assholes, lacking of perspective, counter-productively prideful, common people or WORSE than common people in that respect, jealous, full of shit, insecure, prone to petty argument and bitch-fight, and dogs who must piss on everything they come into contact with in order to display their "dominance." As far as I'm concerned they're not Satanists at all, and that's that. That's why I AM NOT A SATANIST, I want nothing to do with those people - that label is just the first step into a much larger world.



Hmm, in general, I am inclined to agree with you.

The true Satanist is a 1 in 10,000 sort of person. Just playing the numbers, you are not going to find many.

I personally have no need for any flavor of theistic religion. But, I would love to have TOS members post in here. From what I have seen of the TOS, most members represent themselves very well. I think they would raise the level of discourse here even if they did not identify themselves with the TOS.
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#8441 - 05/06/08 07:02 PM Re: ToS [Re: Seraphyim]
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Nyarlathotep2012:
(edit) I sent you a PM regarding ToS.

Selene


Edited by selene (05/06/08 07:04 PM)
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#8443 - 05/06/08 07:11 PM Re: ToS [Re: selene]
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Now that is just a dirty tease. Feel free to share with the group.
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#8459 - 05/07/08 06:56 AM Re: ToS [Re: ta2zz]
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 Originally Posted By: ta2zz

The world is lacking in commonsense, I thought Satanists were proud to be more intelligent than the common man...

To me it should be commonsense therefore it is almost not worth speaking on the subject... Of course if you are trying to show off your vast knowledge on the subject or dropping names to sound connected... Knock your socks off...

I guess somebody needs to feed the sheep...

Carry on...

~T~




I think someone is reading a little too much into this, so you should just relax and let it go. Furthermore, whether or not you find it to be common sense really isn't my concern. Someone asked for a little guidance and I answered. End of story. Now there's some common sense for you to feed into.

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#8471 - 05/07/08 05:35 PM off topic response to Xaulamyn [Re: Xaulamyn]
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Hi Xaulamyn,

I have dealt with your kind before you are the I am better than the title Satanist type… You think yourself better than the common Satanist state that you yourself are not one, yet you will go on and on regurgitating what you think Satanism is… Where I stand that proves you do not understand the same way I do, your beliefs are much different than mine… It is that simple, nothing more…

 Originally Posted By: Xaulamyn
But, let me get down to what my response to you is REALLY about. I'm not responding to you because of this, but rather this has given me an EXCUSE to respond. Why? Because there's something I want to get out of the way NOW, that way I will not have to do it later.

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE, ta2zz.

Do you? If you knew me I do not think you would have to tell me here… Then again if you do know me perhaps you feel safer opening your cock sucker here hiding behind yet another screen name… Whatever…

What this is really about is this is your pissing contest to try to look better and smarter than me… In other words this is the same thing your reply is written to complain about… So common a mistake so normal of you… It is plain for all to see… But then again you are the Ascended Satanist right?

 Originally Posted By: Xaulamyn
The REAL REASON you're getting me off track and off topic and interjecting into this the way you are is for POLITICAL REASONS.

I think you are delusional… I am not an easy person to understand… You flatter yourself thinking you have me figured out using your simple thought patterns on why you believe me to be one way or the other…

 Originally Posted By: Xaulamyn
This isn't about you disliking the "hand feeding of sheep", rather this is about me thinking that George Bush is a good President, and you and your little liberal ass can't handle someone who thinks George Bush is a good President.

You are insane, truly… Get outside some… Maybe I just dislike you, your writing style, and your attitude… Maybe it is just a gut feeling…

 Originally Posted By: Xaulamyn
Therefore, every chance you get, in every topic, for the rest of my existence on this forum, you're going to be one of those little flies that are constantly hounding me every chance you get, for every tiny thing - anything your imagination can conceive.

No actually after your antics in the chat room I have basically written you off as an emo/comedian… (Anyone wishing a copy of the complete chat log pm me…)

Besides if all I did here was feed my imagination I would have been gone a long while ago… You and your perceptions give the moderators and administration very little credit in the way they do things here…

 Originally Posted By: Xaulamyn
You don't like my views, my opinions, what I say, then tough.

This is a two way street… Why do you little people always forget this? If you don’t like my views or opinions shove off… If you can argue with my logic then please do so… See how easy it is to agree to disagree…

 Originally Posted By: Xaulamyn
Now I've gotten it all out of the way. I would of preferred to do it privately, but you're the one who had to do it publicly, and now it's over. I can now move on and so can you, and I don't have to respond to you any further or dignify anything you might type anymore.

Whatever floats your boat… Besmirch your own name not mine… ;\) You chose to make a big huff out of what I said confusing your thoughts with the meaning behind my post… Trying to twist my words to make yours appear correct… This makes you feel bigger, smarter which again is exactly what you accuse me of… Whatever works for you, to each his own…

Trying to play E- psychologist is never a good thing… In fact some would say it is a blatant weakness… Sticking your head in the sand will in your perspective make me disappear…

Enjoy your day

~T~

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#8476 - 05/07/08 06:21 PM Re: ToS [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
I think they would raise the level of discourse here even if they did not identify themselves with the TOS.


I concur.
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#8494 - 05/08/08 12:52 AM Re: off topic response to Xaulamyn [Re: ta2zz]
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Look, everyone..I posted this to ask a question, to possibly speak with a Setian, and over all gain more insight on the ToS. If you are/have neither, you are contributing nothing to this topic. Arguments can be settled elsewhere, perhaps in private, where the majority of disagreements should be handled to begin with.

I find it sad, almost pathetic that when someone asks for information they are called sheep, ignorant and essentially stupid. If we cannot learn from each other, what is the point. I imagined if I asked, everyone would tell me they were completely on their own when it came to discovering and interpreting this path. Which in a way is true, as Satanism, the LHP, etc is based off of personal interpretation, We have all, regardless of whether or not it is admitted had someone who gave us a snipit of information, mentored us, taught us what they knew about a topic, so that we could then interpret said teachings to suit our own lives and continue on in study.

So you have become very educated on the topic of Satanism, you have taken the ideas and philosophy to heart, with whatever your own personal interpretation is. Where you not once at the point of asking questions? Where you ever at the point you hadn't read 28904730984 books, and knew many different aspects of a particular version of personal belief.

Life is nothing but a series of events, of personal interpretations of said events and how we react to them. And with each other, we are able to almost experience events and situations we have not yet gone through personally, take the information and advice and grow and learn from it. To be helped is not to be a sheep, goat, whatever animal that works as a collective you wish to call someone, it is to have the courage to admit that one does not know all the answers, which I am sorry to say, but no one has all of the answers, as everyone interprets events differently.

So someone has a different point of view than you, big fucking deal. Lets act defensive towards the idea of having a different belief structure, lets act threatened, and whats the result, well you might as well be a protestant in the south, thats the damn result.

So LaVeyan Satanists believe ritual is simply a way to relieve emotion, and impose their own will upon the unsuspecting populace, whereas the basis of theistic Satanism is the worship of a physical being known as Satan, and imposing His will upon the populace, of the worship of Set, or any other form of LHP worship are we not all striving for the same thing? Self awareness, personal strength and power. So what if someone believes Satan actually exists and the next person believes Satan represents an archetype for personal strength and power, are we simply incapable of learning from each other? If thats the case then whats the point? Of the LHP, of Satanism and of this forum?

So you can bitch at one another, when it pertains not to the topic? Fact of the matter is, no one is right and at the same time everyone is right. No matter how hard you believe something, you will never be able. What is important is the belief in something, and the attempt to gain personal strength as opposed to collective herd strength. If you believe in nothing, you believe in something, and that something is nothing, void, existence is purely scientific and their is not personal purpose. If you believe in a deity/deities, then there is a belief in the PERSONAL relationship one shares with whatever deity they associate with, but at the end of the day whats different, a tiny difference in how one goes about worshiping the darkness?

What are you doing when you stand in the way of someone willing to learn? You are simply setting yourself up to be obliterated.

In short, I'm sure when this is replied to it will be butchered picked apart sentence by sentence because someone felt it necessary to comment on every little thing, but fact of the matter is I am asking about the Temple of Set, if you have nothing to offer, than post in a different topic.
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#8497 - 05/08/08 02:26 AM Re: off topic response to Xaulamyn [Re: Nyarlathotep2012]
Xaulamyn Offline
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I adore you so much Nyarlathotep2012.

But, I've let you in on the secret, and now I want you to understand that the most precious thing in the world is not letting "those people" know it, but only let them vaguely know that there's SOMETHING out there they can't know, will never know, and don't know. It's a sacred secret.

You'll come to understand in time.

I have many things to show you.

My adored one.

Shhh.


Edited by Xaulamyn (05/08/08 02:27 AM)
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#8505 - 05/08/08 09:27 AM Re: off topic response to Xaulamyn [Re: Xaulamyn]
Nero666 Offline
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Greetings,

From what I've seen the TOS is pretty selective, its difficult to become a member. Fewer than half of all applicants are accepted for membership with the two year recognition period. And only a minority of members remain with the Temple more than a decade.

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#8509 - 05/08/08 12:21 PM Re: ToS [Re: Fist]
selene Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
Now that is just a dirty tease. Feel free to share with the group.

Are you feeling left out Fist? I just offered to share some ToS documents with Nyarlathotep2012 in case they would be helpful in his research. Feel free to PM me for if you're interested as well.

Selene

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#9460 - 06/09/08 12:14 PM Re: ToS [Re: selene]
Matt Massacre Offline
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I have not been very much tempted to join the CoS because of their current "atheistic" stance. I don't expect that to change. I do admire the church, and Anton LaVey, for bringing Satanism into the light of day, however.


Right words! Since 2004 im in the "dark business" and studied a lot about religions, philosophys and religions of the left-hand-path. Today, the Church of Satan under the leading of Peter H. Gilmore is an extrem materialistic and atheistic organization. A religion or a philosophy with a religious and magical touch without a "non-rational" believe isnt a religion! Anton LaVeys idea to build an organized satanic religion with a church was not a bad idea, but (in my views) A. S. LaVey take the first steps of the destroying of the CoS in 1975 when in begun to sale satanic titles and sudenly proclaimed satan doesnt exist. In the Satanic Bible we can read that the views of a god has so often changed in history that the satanist search his view he or she means its the right view for him or her. In my view it means that a satanist can believe in satan as a real being but that a satanist belive in satan as an archtype, morphic energy field and so on too, but the daily "Gilmore Girls" are to stupid and their understanding of the Satanic Bible is 100% wrong. Because this views, Peter H. Gilmore, Peggy Nadramia and a lot of active and registered members included members of the priesthood of mendes hates me and when i have question, the only answer i become is "Do NOT contact us again".

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#9573 - 06/13/08 01:15 AM Re: ToS [Re: Xaulamyn]
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Linda Blood was a member of the ToS, and in her book she relates her experiences with the ToS. Do you deny that her related experiences are accurate?

As for the Presidio scandal: I do not know either way whether or not the accusations made hold any truth whatsoever. I am inclined to dismiss it (like you) as SRA nonsense. However, I do find it interesting that when searching his soul, Aquino’s “neter” reveals himself as Set, an ancient Egyptian god of homosexuality, rape and child sexual abuse.

As I’m sure, such an intelligent person as yourself, recognizes that the “Holy Guardian Angel” is equivalent to what Freud referred to as the “unconscious”. And that a ToS “communication document” is knowledge and conversation with said unconscious. So why does Aquino’s unconscious reveal itself as a gay ass-headed god known for sexually abusing the child Horus?

….and now that I’ve managed to stop laughing, I’ll provide you with a few quotes so you don’t think I’m just making this shit up.

From the ToS reading list….

Seth, God of Confusion by H. Te Velde… … (TS-4) MA: “This is the definitive analysis of Set in ancient Egyptian religion and philosophy.”

So let’s take a couple quotes out of this “definitive analysis”….

“The stories of the Metternich stela and Socle Behague, which relate how Horus was bitten by poisonous snakes and scorpions, fit in with the idea of homosexual acts on the part of Seth. The intention of the texts is certainly to conjure injurious results from the bites of these harmful creatures, but the mythological background is, that the evil Seth sexually abused the child Horus.”

-pg 37-38 of “Seth, God of Confusion”

“The Majesty of Horus said to his mother Isis…. Seth desires (?) to have intercourse with me. And she said to him, take care, do not approach him for that; when he mentions it to you again, say to him: It is altogether too difficult for me because of (my) nature (?), since you are too heavy for me; my strength will not be equal to yours, you shall say to him. Then, when he shall have given your strength, place your fingers between your buttocks. Lo, it will give…. Lo, he will enjoy it exceedingly (?)”….

-Excerpt from the Kahun papyrus as found in “Seth, God of Confusion”

The old thumb in the buttocks routine, refers to how Horus managed to steal the “essence” of Set. Poor little Horus, bum raped by Uncle Seth, and left with a fistful of sacred spunk…

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