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#51210 - 03/18/11 08:00 AM Writer seeks help with current project
thishoneybfly thishoneybfly lurker Registered: 03/18/11 Posts: 4 Loc: California, USA	Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum. I'm currently writing a fictional novel about a Satanist and have just recently faced a block, ugh, don't you hate it when that happens? Well, anyway, I was wondering if anyone here would be kind of enough to help? Be my muse if you will? Thanks again $\:\)$
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#51211 - 03/18/11 08:27 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
mabon2010 mabon2010 member Registered: 09/29/10 Posts: 259 Loc: The Commonwealth of Great Brit...	@ thishoneybfly Perhaps if you list some questions the people of the forum may be bale to add a few suggestions to help you. You could try reading the many forums here to get a feel of Satanism which may get your creative juices flowing. Many here may object if the theme is of the usual Christian or Hollywood stereotype of a Satanist. _________________________ Monadic Luciferianism is a philosophy of life centered on self.
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#51233 - 03/18/11 04:09 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
Diavolo Diavolo RIP stalker Registered: 09/02/07 Posts: 4997	Unless you're writing an "Interview with a Satanist", I don't really see why you'd need a satanist to inspire you. Whatever sort of satanist you need, from the classic devil-worshiping bad-boy to the atheistic egocentric, can easily be created by doing some research into what Satanism was or is. The most important question that will have to be answered is: "What is in it for us?". No free lunch in Satan's land. D.
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#51312 - 03/19/11 05:54 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
Valour Valour stranger Registered: 03/16/11 Posts: 5 Loc: Singapore	Perhaps you may like to get a feel of what being a Satanist is about first before getting the inspiration? Hehe. I write too. And am currently on a collaborative project as well, but this site is not for my source of inspiration but a place of gaining knowledge about Satanism in general. Just curious, what is the main jeez of your story that requires you to have some insights on Satanism? Is it the dialogue portion of the story? Are you planning on the creation of a character? Or are you trying to describe the environment that is "satanic"? _________________________ "Life is the great indulgence - death, the great abstinence." - The Book of Satan (IV:1).
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#51333 - 03/19/11 02:04 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: Valour]
felixgarnet felixgarnet active member Registered: 10/17/09 Posts: 689 Loc: UK	What is the plot of this novel so far? Who is the Satanist character and how are they part of the novel? Why do you think you have reached a block and is it through lack of knowledge of your subject matter (easy enough to remedy) or another reason, such as the plot not progressing as expected from your original draft or whatever? You will not find a "Satanic character" here as none of us would be recognizable as the type that pops up in crime thrillers and horror stories - at least I hope not! Satanism is a philosophy of personal growth and is as subjective to the individual as it possible to be. Glamorous rituals may be part of that practice but there is no liturgical calendar as such, no "to do" list - unless you count To Read, Mark, Learn and Inwardly Digest - and no abjection before a deity, whether or not one believes in one. I hope you find what you are looking for and let us know of your work's progression. $\:\)$ _________________________ "Here's to Artifice!" - Anton Szandor LaVey.
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#51355 - 03/19/11 10:56 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
ta2zz ta2zz veteran member Registered: 08/28/07 Posts: 1552 Loc: Connecticut	If you have little imagination maybe being a writer isn't for you. Perhaps something like sewing or photography is more your style. Everyone with a camera and a photoshop filter is a photographer today. Lesson 1 Help yourself, unless you are paying well. ~T~ _________________________ We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams. ~Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy
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#51376 - 03/20/11 07:18 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: ta2zz]
thishoneybfly thishoneybfly lurker Registered: 03/18/11 Posts: 4 Loc: California, USA	Thanks to everyone who offered to help, someone messaged me earlier and has been a great help. To those who just decided they'd love to be rude, insulting or just plain pompous, I only have one question for you, what are YOU doing with your life? $;\)$
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#51377 - 03/20/11 07:59 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
Hegesias Hegesias active member Registered: 02/16/11 Posts: 725	I wouldn't write down anything Willy Wonka says (he's crazy you know, look at his eyes in his picture!), I've seen his 'pictures' he's on about too (like somebody walked over my grave). Anyway in all serious and silliness aside for as long as possible. I got a marvellous idea from Diavolo, he mentioned that he would contemplate writing again soon and that he has been exercising his brain on here a few times and he was getting a 'feel' back for his writing, although he obviously is not basing his writing of this site you get the picture. Inspiration whatever you want to call it can be found in the most unlikely places, and like the folks here said, 'actively motivate yourself'. @ta2zz. I'm just playing. _________________________
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#51381 - 03/20/11 10:27 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
William Wright William Wright active member Registered: 10/25/09 Posts: 901 Loc: Nashville	Thishoneybfly, you want to know what Satanists are like? Well for starters Satanists believe in doing for themselves, which is why I would suggest that you research the topic instead of relying on second-hand information from someone who may not even know what he/she is talking about. How do you know that the person who messaged you and has “been a great help” isn’t just fucking with you? What I would do if I wanted to get a feel for Satanism is actually participate in this forum. Ask questions. Tell us your thoughts on Satanism. Just saying that you want someone to help you learn about Satanism suggests that you’re intellectually lazy and want to be spoon fed, not good qualities in a writer (and frowned upon by many Satanists). Asking what we’re doing with our life is pointless. We’re doing whatever it is we want to do, whether it is pursuing a doctorate from Harvard or sitting on our asses watching Jerry Springer. This is about you coming here wanting our help. What I'm saying is that Satanists help those who help themselves.
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#51393 - 03/20/11 02:00 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
felixgarnet felixgarnet active member Registered: 10/17/09 Posts: 689 Loc: UK	Originally Posted By: thishoneybfly Thanks to everyone who offered to help, someone messaged me earlier and has been a great help. To those who just decided they'd love to be rude, insulting or just plain pompous, I only have one question for you, what are YOU doing with your life? $;\)$ Hey, if you think our responses so far are rude, then you really haven't met any Satanists, Have you? $\:D$ I trust you have at least read "The Satanic Bible" and made a compare/contrast exercise with earlier fictional work such as Huysman's "La Bas" but I somehow doubt it. As for what I'm personally doing with my life - believe me, it's better and less believable than any fiction. $\:\)$ _________________________ "Here's to Artifice!" - Anton Szandor LaVey.
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#51396 - 03/20/11 02:14 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: felixgarnet]
Jake999 Jake999 senior member Registered: 11/02/08 Posts: 2230	I'm not doing anything with my life. I'm just a poor old man who has a shack on the outskirts of town and a cat with a broken tail. _________________________ Bury your dead, pick up your weapon and soldier on.
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#51397 - 03/20/11 02:16 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: Jake999]
Diavolo Diavolo RIP stalker Registered: 09/02/07 Posts: 4997	Yeah, and I live in an old shed in Jake's garden. Too bad he's a satanist and even charges me rent for that. D.
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#51404 - 03/20/11 02:40 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
XiaoGui17 XiaoGui17 veteran member Registered: 10/21/09 Posts: 1208 Loc: Austin, TX	Originally Posted By: thishoneybfly Thanks to everyone who offered to help, someone messaged me earlier and has been a great help. To those who just decided they'd love to be rude, insulting or just plain pompous, I only have one question for you, what are YOU doing with your life? $;\)$ Aspiring to write a novel is a bit of a leap from successfully writing a best-selling page turner. If we are comparing aspirations instead of what we're actually doing, I daresay I have you beat. But then again, I would rather not be complimented on my aspirations until I've achieved what I set out to do. You haven't told us what you're doing with your life besides trying to write a novel. Comparing someone else's current status with your aspiration is hardly a fair fight. So... out with it, what are you doing? Edited by XiaoGui17 (03/20/11 02:41 PM) _________________________ Wir halten uns an Regeln, Wenn man uns regeln lässt
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#51415 - 03/20/11 04:06 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: Jake999]
felixgarnet felixgarnet active member Registered: 10/17/09 Posts: 689 Loc: UK	Originally Posted By: Jake999 I'm not doing anything with my life. I'm just a poor old man who has a shack on the outskirts of town and a cat with a broken tail. Yeah? Me, too! You can tell this from my avatar. $\:\)$ Poor Diavolo! Still, you can't blame Jake - he knows what you did last summer, after all. $;\)$ _________________________ "Here's to Artifice!" - Anton Szandor LaVey.
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#51455 - 03/21/11 04:15 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: felixgarnet]
thishoneybfly thishoneybfly lurker Registered: 03/18/11 Posts: 4 Loc: California, USA	Again, thanks for the help everybody. I love some of the responses, very funny. I agree with the point you made William, very wise. I never said EVERYBODY was being pompous, the one's that where obviously know who they are. Oh, and as for what I'm doing with MY life, I'm a writer, I've been published and have made a decent living of it. I'm also a recording artist, I sing, write and produce my own material. I act from time to time as well, film, tv and stage. I don't need to compare my status or life with anyone else's but you did ask $;\)$
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#51456 - 03/21/11 04:41 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
Jake999 Jake999 senior member Registered: 11/02/08 Posts: 2230	And I believe you. Really I do. No shit! Yep. Takin' it to the bank. Buyin' the bridge in Brooklyn... _________________________ Bury your dead, pick up your weapon and soldier on.
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#51460 - 03/21/11 09:59 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: Jake999]
LucyFur LucyFur member Registered: 02/06/11 Posts: 122 Loc: Bible Belt, USA	Originally Posted By: Jake999 I'm not doing anything with my life. I'm just a poor old man who has a shack on the outskirts of town and a cat with a broken tail. Hey Jake, I want may cat back now! Did you really think I wouldn't miss him? I love every single one of my 22 cats including the one you stole from under my trailer. Roman and I are coming to get you..... Mrs. Castevet _________________________ I spit on your crapulous creeds. Let all chaste women be utterly despised among you!
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#51468 - 03/21/11 11:53 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
Diavolo Diavolo RIP stalker Registered: 09/02/07 Posts: 4997	Originally Posted By: thishoneybfly Again, thanks for the help everybody. I love some of the responses, very funny. I agree with the point you made William, very wise. I never said EVERYBODY was being pompous, the one's that where obviously know who they are. Oh, and as for what I'm doing with MY life, I'm a writer, I've been published and have made a decent living of it. I'm also a recording artist, I sing, write and produce my own material. I act from time to time as well, film, tv and stage. I don't need to compare my status or life with anyone else's but you did ask $;\)$ Oh you're that one asking for advice here all the time about who to marry. Soap kitten. PS: if you claim to be a writer, don't forget to use the skills when replying. D.
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#51551 - 03/22/11 03:46 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: Diavolo]
thishoneybfly thishoneybfly lurker Registered: 03/18/11 Posts: 4 Loc: California, USA	Excuse me? This is the first time I've ever been on this site. Oh, and the last time I checked, this was a forum not a manuscript of mine to go off for review or publishing. My grammar and spelling are fine. You're good but not that good, try again.
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#51553 - 03/22/11 07:24 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
mabon2010 mabon2010 member Registered: 09/29/10 Posts: 259 Loc: The Commonwealth of Great Brit...	@ thishoneybfly Not only are you getting some useful knowledge I am sure you are now getting some useful experience of what Satanists are, you are in their natural wild environment. Are you enjoying your time amongst these wild animals? What does it feel like in dealing with a Satanist here? Learn from it. I am a Luciferian, so I would be useless to you - I have been bitten here a few times. Talking about wild animals RIP Knut - I let my caring side show on my blog. Edited by mabon2010 (03/22/11 07:28 AM) _________________________ Monadic Luciferianism is a philosophy of life centered on self.
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#51562 - 03/22/11 11:55 AM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
Diavolo Diavolo RIP stalker Registered: 09/02/07 Posts: 4997	Originally Posted By: thishoneybfly Excuse me? This is the first time I've ever been on this site. Oh, and the last time I checked, this was a forum not a manuscript of mine to go off for review or publishing. My grammar and spelling are fine. You're good but not that good, try again. Look sweetie, the very fact that you react on criticism here, or are even affected by it, doesn't indicate you have that much of a career going on and if, it sure isn't that important. But maybe you are taking a sabbatical to reflect upon how to handle all that worldly and monetary success. What you do, no serious writer does and even if, he'd elaborate who he is and why he asked the favor. And, a good writer shows in his writing, even if it is only a measly request or reply on a forum. I suggest as a title for your next bestseller: "much ado about nothing", or "hot air". If you want, I'll provide a screenplay for ya. Method acting will not require that much effort to get in role. D.
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#51574 - 03/22/11 03:11 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: thishoneybfly]
felixgarnet felixgarnet active member Registered: 10/17/09 Posts: 689 Loc: UK	OK, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, thishoneybfly. Just to clarify matters would you kindly provide us with details (titles, author name, dates and ISBN numbers) of your published books? Links to other work would be useful, too. Oh, and please would you answer my question about the plot of this novel in progress which involves a Satanic character? Thank you. _________________________ "Here's to Artifice!" - Anton Szandor LaVey.
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#51587 - 03/22/11 05:09 PM Re: Writer seeks help with current project [Re: felixgarnet]
Woland Woland Seasoned active member Registered: 08/28/07 Posts: 765 Loc: Oslo, Norway	Originally Posted By: felixgarnet OK, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, thishoneybfly. Just to clarify matters would you kindly provide us with details (titles, author name, dates and ISBN numbers) of your published books? Links to other work would be useful, too. Oh, and please would you answer my question about the plot of this novel in progress which involves a Satanic character? Thank you. I fear that might be a tad unrealistic Felix. Time Ladies & Gents! Time! Thread locked... _________________________ Regards Woland Contra Mundum!
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