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#53190 - 04/20/11 10:27 AM Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism?
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First of all the Zionist makes it very difficult for others to differentiate if he is a religionist or a race, so I'll be blatant and state that I don't care, what I do recognise is that they define themselves as both.

As there is a forum with anti-Islamic propaganda and a forum about human sacrifice I thought it only wise to expose the real threat which is at the root of both atrocities, the real threat to the cultures of the world, not just your egoistic pop culture of Satanism.

As I have observed the pseudo-iconoclasm and pseudo-blaspheming that "Satanist" like to feel warm and fuzzy with. Nobody cares about Christianity, Christianity is dead, only the decayed husk of it's morality can we smell in our society. I have come to the conclusion that this certainly will not do. Satan is the opposer and the accuser, not a puppet that dances for religion as controlled opposition. So now for something completely different.

Judaism

Media

Goyim

The chosen one likes to destroy his enemy mentally, by which he takes the Gentiles material gain away, and undermines the Gentiles civil existence. The vilest of all forms of greed, the boycott, is characteristic of Judaism.

It amazes me how easy it is to lie to the human sheep and that the majority of Americans still believe they were attacked on September the 11th by Arabs.

I have also observed how certain Satanist design to entice and tantalise silly Goyim, blatantly calling humans "sheep". Is this not different to calling humans "Goyim?" or "Gentiles?" or "Mundanes?" What we have here is a system used to trick you—a multicultural melting pot to expose our propensity and expose our intellectual thinking for all purposes of gods chosen ones to do the same to Goyim as they always have. It is customary for the chosen ones to lie to Goy and even blaspheme their own god "Satanism" to meet their agenda as the chosen ones will know in their hearts they are not really blaspheming.

Can anyone see a difference between the governments of Israel and Amerika?
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#53192 - 04/20/11 10:44 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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Identical to not seeing the Muslims as a threat to Satanism, I don't see the Jews as one.

Personally I don't believe there is a Jewish-Illuminati connection and when a Jew is trying to gain dominance in something, all I see is the same Will to Power all humans act upon. What might differ with us is that many still are part of a community-culture which closely cooperates and as such, exponentially enlarges their Will to Power. Most of us Westerners are so individualized, we robbed ourselves of this magnificent ability.

They served their role as the traditional scapegoat to move the mass for a long time but are replaced by the Muslims. Those scare people more these days.

I don't really think the 911 was a staged event since anyone having the intellect and resources to make this possible, surely will be able to keep it secret too.

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#53194 - 04/20/11 11:08 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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Illuminati? A self deprecation meme created to tantalise the intellect of society with half truths, the idea is to put the truth in the face of society, this is how occultism works, or rather obscurantism, to get the observer to dismiss all connotations through half truth association with exaggerated fallacy. Rather, I was referring to the Zionists who rape Arab lands and force Arabs to come to the west and face racism which the Jew has created with around 70 years of propaganda.

The German army was the most multi-cultural army in Europe at that time, but nearly 70 years of anti-National Socialist propaganda has made the world think otherwise. Even the English BNP is a puppet dancing for Zion.

Arab and Black Nazi troops were in the Eastern Front in 1942-1944, and according to historians they were treated better and respected more than black troops that were in the U.S army who could not eat in the same tables as whites or sleep in the same barracks. Black soldiers in the German Army were treated like any other and even generals ate and slept in the same dorms as the privates, this was to ensure a brotherly bond between troops, naturally for morale on the battlefield.

The Muslims only offer conversion because they know that the west is poisoned by the Jew and yet they still offer humility, although arrogant to impose upon scientific Atheist and Celt or Norse or African rooted people, the truth remains that the monotheistic religions are opposing the Jew who even goes so far as to align himself with the Christian whilst remaining faithful to the Talmud which speaks a lot of Jesus burning in boiling semen and excrement and other practices dealing with, paedophilia, bestiality and faeces consumption. The Jew does not offer any kind of choice to convert because to them, we are expendable beast of burden. Besides I think they know that nobody is going to want to convert to Judaism anyway considering what's in the Talmud is fundamental parasitism.


Everyone is happy throwing stones at the Islamic rebels but too scared to even mention the Jew because you'll immediately get cited as an anti-semite or to everyone's shock and horror a "racist" or a Nazi, all in the context that you are morally wrong to even notice the Jew defines himself as a supremacist race and religionist.

I like all the false talk around Satanism proposing that there is free speech.
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#53195 - 04/20/11 11:27 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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It is a bit contradictory to consider the meme of Illuminati as ridiculous and then describe something perfectly aligned with what is considered their modus operandi.

We in the West are infected but not by the Jews but by ideas that piggybacked along with the religions originating there. It is the fundamental basics of those religions which creep into everything here and I see those as a venom. Who exactly was the carrier is of little importance since evidently, we do carry, enforce and spread them these days.

Sure Israel isn't behaving nicely in the Middle East and sure the holocaust is deliberately abused when it is in their favor here but again, there isn't anything un-human in that. I see no grand plan unfolding and what some see as an enforcement of Arab migration towards the West, I see as an evident result from differences in wealth and people trying to get their share too. As Africans do too without any Jewish enforcement.

So no, no matter how much I despise the very memes originated there, I see no protocol worthy conspiracy.

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#53196 - 04/20/11 11:54 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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Illuminati is not perfectly aligned with what is considered their modus operandi, the Zionist movement is. Illuminati is most derogatory to the case here. The Jew will derail through self deprecation while exuding force, pity and lies are the name of the game here, the Jew is a ruthless liar to "Goyim" because the Jew is only faithful to the Talmud. The Jew has no shame in discarding morality for interactions with "Goyim" because his true faith and agenda is more important.

Basically while everyone is tantalised by the Illuminati rubbish and the 911 ambivalence. The Jew continues to pillage Arab homes in Palestine.

Satanist ought to expose, oppose and accuse the racial supremacy sect of YHWH. Satan is the adversary of YHWH, whoever wants to take on the responsibility of the adversary oughtn't use the word Satan if he is merely an Atheist with no adversarial views and wanting to play spooky dress up colouring his inane Goy persona with the allure of darkness and evil surrounding Satanism. LaVey's version of Satanism is nothing to do with Luciferian illumination, the LaVey Satanism is designed to cultivate a brightly shining ego that overshadows the persons potential to progress and see other truths. Jungian psychology. Jung was not Jewish and certainly not consigned to "Nazi sympathizer" or "anti-Semite" but he certainly looked at Jewish Psychology.
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#53198 - 04/20/11 12:13 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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I see no conspiracy either, it's all quite simple and hasn't changed since biblical times, WW2 and now. Do Africans steal from other races? Do Arabs steal from other races? In Sharia law you get your hands cut off for stealing which I find extremely ironic and fitting, but according to the Talmud of the Jews, it's a meritorious deed to take from a Goyim.

I like how people are afraid of Arabs when there is nothing to fear if you're not a parasite. Those who just can't help themselves and need to seek petty gain from others might be a bit worried about trusting themselves around Islamists?
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#53199 - 04/20/11 12:14 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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Ironically there is a great similarity between what you describe as the modus operandi of the Jew and that of the Satanist; the end justifies the means. As such, I think it hardly can be considered as an accusation.

I know we, these days, freely express our ideas about the Muslim but quickly switch when the same arguments are applied upon the Jews and there truly is something quite amusing to that but even when popularity defines acceptability, it doesn't necessarily imply if an argument is valid or not.

Personally I see little value in your description of the Jew and his motives, unless we construct a straw Jew who fits, as we, evidently, create our straw Muslim, straw Nazi, straw Satanist...etc. The value in creating those is in its purpose and those creating them realize this quite well. I think the days the Jew serves that purpose are over, even when they still take a prominent place into many a conspiracy theory.

Even to a satanist, they matter as much as the christian and neither of them will be the catalyst required for a desired change. What there is to expose is not about humans but about memes, about those hidden principles below all that we consider natural or good these days and even that is hardly worth the effort since modern man is too absorbed in his distractions.

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#53200 - 04/20/11 12:23 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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All three Abrahamic monotheisms are enemies of Satan. In terms of extremism the Talmud claims the most hubris political and racial superiority, then the Qu'ran and finally the piss poor Bible.

The fact remains that only the Jew regards others property as his own and terrorises other cultures. The Jewess women can be bestial and they intimidate the feminine Arab ladies at their homes. In Palestine the Arabs have cages to stop the Jew thugs from entering their homes. Now is it me or is Judaism incommunicable? After all Muslims always make negotiations and dialogue first and foremost. The supremacist Jew simply uses force to take what he regards as his, which is everything.
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#53202 - 04/20/11 12:43 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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In the end, the only enemy a satanist has is himself.

I am not bothered about the superiority that is inherent to any religion or ideology as much as the very idea of submission many spread, the acceptance, surrender, and adaptation towards something which is not the Self. That is where the real venom lies. The superiority and drive towards dominion is merely the inherent drive of humanity, something which I admire, even when it might bring an inevitability to me.

Looking at something as threat only appears as such when looking at it from a specific perspective. A change of that might reveal there to be nothing else but business as usual. Of course I fully support all taking their perspective or using one which serves their needs but in the end, it is solely that. In the end, there only is that which is and that which tries to change it into something else.

What is my true enemy is nothing but me allowing myself to be controlled. No Jew, Muslim, no state or ideology, no meme nor dream can, if I myself, don't willingly bow to them.

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#53203 - 04/20/11 12:51 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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I'm the same, I have never submitted to anything or anyone, I hate to see the Arab people being imposed on by the Jews, I can affirm that I can make dialogue and have a descent conversation with Muslim people. Muslim may want to convert people but so do Christians. The Jew regards others as Goyim that are for exploitation. It's in their scriptures and is not my opinion but something I have observed and recited.

I was minding my own business, some "settlers" wanted to play a game of soldiers with me.. I got arrested and the ones who didn't get arrested actually stole my shit I got from the supermarket. Nobody fucks with me one on one, I'm a bodybuilder, they were in a large group and still made claims that my stuff was theirs to take, I didn't know what the fuck why they wanted a few bags of food, you just don't get that kind of attitude where I come from.

I'm a fighter and need no cause or a side, simply to oppose the oppressors for personal honour. If the Jihadi behead Jews it's obviously because the greedy Jew imposed dangerous threat on Islamic privacy.

They don't side with Christianity at all. The Talmud supersedes the Old Testament in authority for the Jews. And the Talmud is the most racist, hate-mongering book the world has ever known.

The Talmud, a central book in Judaism, teaches in its Book of Sanhedron that Jesus is deserving of "decapitation", "stoning to death", "hanging" and "crucifixion". It decrees that Jesus is in hell, being boiled in faeces, because he contradicted the Rabbis.

(Talmud reference: Gittin 57a

“If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.”
(Baba Mezia 24a)

“If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

“Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)

“All children of the ‘goyim’ (gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)

“Girls born of the ‘goyim’ are in a state of ‘niddah’ (menstrual uncleanness) from birth.” (Abodah Zarah 36b)


“The ‘goyim’ (gentiles) are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)

“If you eat with a ‘goy’ (gentile) it is the same as eating with a dog.”
(Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

“Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)

“Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)

“When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a
ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only)

‘Yashu’ (derogatory for ‘Jesus’) is in hell being boiled in hot excrement.” (Gittin 57a)

Here we can see that this is quite a bit more potent than other monotheisms. You'll see Jew rabbi making clever worded arguments about how these verses are taken out of context merely displaying their subversive nature even further.
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#53206 - 04/20/11 01:26 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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Today is April 20th...coincidence? ;\)

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The chosen one likes to destroy his enemy mentally, by which he takes the Gentiles material gain away, and undermines the Gentiles civil existence. The vilest of all forms of greed, the boycott, is characteristic of Judaism.


Sounds like a bit of propaganda to me. But I suppose that what you were going for. In Exodus and Deuteronomy it does allow for with-interest loans on non-Jews but so what?

There was a time when Christians were not allowed to put each other in debt so the Jews were the only people they could get loans from. No one is forced to seek a loan so there is no point in complaining about the terms for repayment.

It's human nature to favor those who are of your "kind". A friend who shows up to a party at my place will likely get a shot or 5 from the bottle of absinthe I have hidden whereas someone who shows up as a guest of someone else will have to settle for whatever else is provided or what they themselves bring. Jews only being able to charge interest on loans to non-Jews is just that concept being taken to an extreme.

This does make me wonder: with all your talk of being "sinister" why does greed bother you?

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It amazes me how easy it is to lie to the human sheep and that the majority of Americans still believe they were attacked on September the 11th by Arabs.


Conspiracy theories abound.

There have been numerous attacks on all parts of the world by Muslims; is it really a stretch of imagination to believe 9/11 was one of them?

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Can anyone see a difference between the governments of Israel and Amerika?


Well those two bitches certainly are in bed together bashing gash. I can't find the link right now (nor do I have the time, school awaits) but it was recently revealed that the Israeli government has paid money to put fake news stories in American media. Some sort of attempt at garnering more sympathy.
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#53207 - 04/20/11 01:39 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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I am not LaVeyan or ONA, you'll notice my ideology is besides Nietzschean, largely based on the Jungian shadow with Gnostic terminology and metaphor, I own only a bed, weights, my guitar, and laptop, that's it, my tools to better my fitness. Greed is for envious people.

I have never stolen from another person in my life (except from the shop while homeless), nor have I been dishonourable having never been dependent to this voids the debt dilemma altogether, I'm not sinister I'm blatant and dominating, I'm rather mundane (of the earth) and use blunt force truth, truth can destroy a man much more efficiently than lies.

I almost fell of my chair laughing madly when I searched the date you left and I was reminded in full upon the search result, I may have been unconsciously motivated in part of irony? oh well, really the motivation for this topic was to juxtapose the bias on the Islam forum, I remembered last year my partner was showing off about Hitler's birthday to annoy me. My partner is Slavic by the way, I'm not racist I simply despise "extreme" monotheism and the worst one in my opinion is the cult of YHWH because "they" apply racist ideology it's not the other way around.

Satanist don't side with any of these religious fanatics and fight for freedom for all, plain and simple. Satan is freedom.
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#53208 - 04/20/11 02:04 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
In the end, the only enemy a satanist has is himself.

I am not bothered about the superiority that is inherent to any religion or ideology as much as the very idea of submission many spread, the acceptance, surrender, and adaptation towards something which is not the Self. That is where the real venom lies. The superiority and drive towards dominion is merely the inherent drive of humanity, something which I admire, even when it might bring an inevitability to me.

Looking at something as threat only appears as such when looking at it from a specific perspective. A change of that might reveal there to be nothing else but business as usual. Of course I fully support all taking their perspective or using one which serves their needs but in the end, it is solely that. In the end, there only is that which is and that which tries to change it into something else.

What is my true enemy is nothing but me allowing myself to be controlled. No Jew, Muslim, no state or ideology, no meme nor dream can, if I myself, don't willingly bow to them.

D.


Your comments by-and-large express my views as well. There is no Jew or Zionist foiling my plans, and limiting my potential -- only I currently have such negative affects on my life. From what I see, Satanists are the greatest threat to Satanism. If one is to endorse anything resembling “social Darwinism”, it would seem for the most part Jews are certainly more fit for thriving in modern “Western” society than most “Satanists” are.

Beyond that, I tend to prefer assertive, opinionated brunettes, so I’ve always had a certain fondness for Jewish women.

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#53209 - 04/20/11 02:29 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Tesseract]
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I don't give a fuck about the lies around politics except to say "fuck you" to the lies being told. I'll never ever side with a group, I am nihilistic and misanthropic and always ready to bite the face off anyone who wants to stick their nose in my affairs, I regard cooperation as weak and unreliable and do not trust others to think or act maturely and hence affiliations can only be a burden which leads me to more aggression, groups wishing to associate with me would be a bad idea, the prisoners dilemma is not something I am interested in getting involved in for anyone. Any faction would only lead to me taking the blame for others behaviours, so I am against everything. Why? Make something up, I challenge, it's in my nature.

My partner is Slavic and has porcelain complexion, dark hair and dark eyes. Blondes and blue eyes don't do it for me either.

Avoidance and keeping my head down was never an option for me, wretched contentment is not something I am keen on either. I will bite the hand that feeds and spit in the face of society's shit offerings, I simply like to go to the woods to read, I workout and create music. I like to fight bad mannered people, I don't need society's shit and it's the greed that disgusts me, the grubby mundane greed... You'll notice that every time you batter somebody it's because they have invaded your privacy. Unless you like to push your luck and leech of others, the same will eventually happen to you.

That house you think you own, that car, all are not yours. They will be taken from you if you fail to provide the steadily increasing tax.

The Zionist movement is no threat to a good submissive lap dog who is content and happy with his rations, hay and a barn for human cattle. The Judicial system runs your life and among the many repressions, you will not be able to revenge those who wrong you, the state takes this away, have you never realised that the petty thieves can get law protection from you killing them? That and paedophiles get a stay in the big house to save them from revenge, they are released with special privileges—A new place to live, a new identity. This is because in the Talmud it is not possible to wrong a Goyim. The Judicial system is fundamentally characteristic of Judaism.
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#53214 - 04/20/11 03:30 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias
I don't give a fuck about the lies around politics except to say "fuck you" to the lies being told. I'll never ever side with a group, I am nihilistic and misanthropic and always ready to bite the face off anyone who wants to stick their nose in my affairs, I regard cooperation as weak and unreliable and do not trust others to think or act maturely and hence affiliations can only be a burden which leads me to more aggression, groups wishing to associate with me would be a bad idea, the prisoners dilemma is not something I am interested in getting involved in for anyone. Any faction would only lead to me taking the blame for others behaviours, so I am against everything. Why? Make something up, I challenge, it's in my nature.

My partner is Slavic and has porcelain complexion, dark hair and dark eyes. Blondes and blue eyes don't do it for me either.

Avoidance and keeping my head down was never an option for me, wretched contentment is not something I am keen on either. I will bite the hand that feeds and spit in the face of society's shit offerings, I simply like to go to the woods to read, I workout and create music. I like to fight bad mannered people, I don't need society's shit and it's the greed that disgusts me, the grubby mundane greed... You'll notice that every time you batter somebody it's because they have invaded your privacy. Unless you like to push your luck and leech of others, the same will eventually happen to you.

That house you think you own, that car, all are not yours. They will be taken from you if you fail to provide the steadily increasing tax.

The Zionist movement is no threat to a good submissive lap dog who is content and happy with his rations, hay and a barn for human cattle. The Judicial system runs your life and among the many repressions, you will not be able to revenge those who wrong you, the state takes this away, have you never realised that the petty thieves can get law protection from you killing them? That and paedophiles get a stay in the big house to save them from revenge, they are released with special privileges—A new place to live, a new identity. This is because in the Talmud it is not possible to wrong a Goyim. The Judicial system is fundamentally characteristic of Judaism.


Like I wrote -- Satanists seem to be the greatest threat to Satanism

My great grandfather on my mother’s side of the family was a Russian Jew: maybe the Zionists will throw me a bone when they take over the world…

One of the most interesting and talented persons I’ve ever worked with was a Jewish guy in his 50s. Occasionally he and I would engage in semi-serious discussions and debates about a wide range of topics, and those were by far the most intellectually stimulating discussions I’ve ever had at that workplace. And you know, not once during those exchanges did I feel he was ever trying to pick my pocket, and I never wanted to smash his face when he would undermine some long-held sociopolitical position I’d previously had, causing me to seriously re-think my assertions. And apparently the “fact” that Jews run the media didn’t help him any when the television station he had worked at for over 15 years unceremoniously fired him when their budget had to be cut.


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#53216 - 04/20/11 05:11 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Tesseract]
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Interesting.



I simply dislike the insulting religion which causes unnecessary suffering to families in Palestine, all religions have some kind of argument saying that they preach compassion and good will, but to be honest to ourselves, if you don't have tenacity and compassion in your soul you are fucked anyway, and to pretend you are a good person by following a religion won't change your nature, this is how I see slave morality as well, if your nature is fucked then any ideology won't alter you but simply serve as a means to deceive. Religion is 1% stating the obviousness of compassion that everyone inexplicably feels anyway before becoming misanthropic, and then there is the 99% unnatural shit which causes unnecessary racism and hubris egoism. As much as I can shut off my emotion and isolate my consciousness, I still have compassion for women and children no matter how indifferent I can be to man. I'm sure many can relate.

Men who would "use" religion to justify vulgar displays of power just feels dirty and lame and embarrassing to be related to such a species who would differentiate himself as another species due to skin colour and different beliefs. To look down on the honest nature of the animals and call them inferior is maybe what has fucked up the religions, referring to lesser men as beasts in the context that a beast is in some way inferior. Look at how wolves treat their own kind, their own pack, and they even respect other packs proximities. How embarrassing for mankind who would differentiate himself into different species based on race and creeds.

Such is not warrior spirit and more so rat like and ignominious, unnatural—insect politics seeking any kind of gain or profit. This can be seen as a manifestation of Will to Power but I'll take the wolven pack values instead of the order of the vulture.

I can appreciate the power of indifference and decisive logic. The extreme Jews seem to be passionate about their cause though, why do they invade and when it's not hard to work with others to build?

I have trouble with an indifferent hatred toward man, it's like a sorrowful acceptance that human life is only subatomic particles and that to kill one who begs to have it done and be jailed for it, is a worthless fate, it is very hard to come back into focus and be humane and realise morality when only survival takes hold, when you have no fear you simply try hard to get your humanity back. It's hollowing, you can spend a lot of time being impervious but when you look at yourself and realise everyone is afraid and that you frighten people, you have a choice to make.

I only make these views so others will add information and a holistic picture can be painted.

Look directly into the light of the world and see darkness there.
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#53217 - 04/20/11 05:36 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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Religion does not cause suffering as are those handily using that religion as an excuse, even if merely at a subconscious level.

The situation in Palestine is silly but if Israel wouldn't be manifesting there, quite soon another neighbor would fill that gap or they'd be fighting internally. That region has been a continuous war zone throughout time. Anyone browsing through the history of the last two thousand years will notice there never has been a period without war somewhere and peace often only implied the time needed to build up for the next conflict.

That is what man is; a warrior; some noble, some sneaky bastards, but this is the easiest and best working method in expressing Will to Power. Religion merely serves as the golden glitter brightening that drive. If we don't kill them because they believe different, it is because they think different and if that isn't the case, they probably look, smell or walk different. Just give us an excuse else we'll invent one.

Man is driven towards change and thus driven to destroy. It is not a drive one can control, it can only be directed.

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#53223 - 04/20/11 06:42 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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Now if it was Europe kicking everyone's ass we'd be delivering cold hard science, medical and universal educational facilities.

Too many humans and not enough animals to hunt. He is passionate about all manner of unnecessary things. Man hunts himself because he has become absurd, yet cannibalism is out of the question hence the act of killing his own kind is pointless? And if not pointless, unnecessary, sure we can ship the bodies of war casualties to famine stricken countries, salt the meat to preserve it. That would be too inhumane though wouldn't it?

If we look at the worlds people like a colony of maggots, we can see that the maggots continually die and are reborn, they are all exactly alike but because they live for such a short time they "think" they are new, special and with unique thoughts and purpose—the monotonous absurdity continues on a pitiless globe suspended in the barren dark universe. I like to think that man is utterly unsalvageable and this is a good reason to value existence in defiance to the truth, laughing, that I am just the same trying in futility not to be so much like the majority. Conquer what, an earth that is absurd?

Maybe when all has lost meaning, when man has nothing to value, his honour is everything?


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#53263 - 04/21/11 02:47 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
Religion does not cause suffering as are those handily using that religion as an excuse, even if merely at a subconscious level.

The situation in Palestine is silly but if Israel wouldn't be manifesting there, quite soon another neighbor would fill that gap or they'd be fighting internally. That region has been a continuous war zone throughout time. Anyone browsing through the history of the last two thousand years will notice there never has been a period without war somewhere and peace often only implied the time needed to build up for the next conflict.

That is what man is; a warrior; some noble, some sneaky bastards, but this is the easiest and best working method in expressing Will to Power. Religion merely serves as the golden glitter brightening that drive. If we don't kill them because they believe different, it is because they think different and if that isn't the case, they probably look, smell or walk different. Just give us an excuse else we'll invent one.

Man is driven towards change and thus driven to destroy. It is not a drive one can control, it can only be directed.

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You write great truths Diavolo.

I can see that both sides of these monotheistic cults are noble because the Jew is loyal to the Talmud and the Muslim to the Qu'ran, both "believe" they are noble and fighting for the greater grace of God, hence they are noble and yet disagreeing over who has the most righteous perfection about same humane virtues? Paradoxically and quite absurdly they fight for peace, unsure of eachothers ability to be trustworthy.

It's all just lackluster in my view, where are the minimalistic and efficient aesthetics of the Viking warrior who needs no ideology except honour and valour in ode to his brothers and ancestors who would be remembered in the stories and halls of Valhalla? The religious cults would call these men godless heathens and neglect to see their brotherly honour which is inexplicably felt with no need to formalise into afterlife rewards.

I think I'll make a new thread if I can't find one on here about Viking tradition and warrior ethos, maybe this will draw out those who wish to share.
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#53278 - 04/21/11 10:37 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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I own only a bed, weights, my guitar, and laptop, that's it, my tools to better my fitness. Greed is for envious people.


Okay...so why do you care if other people are greedy? If you don't need anything more than you have then it shouldn't matter if other people want more than their share. Or do you desire more?

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I have never stolen from another person in my life (except from the shop while homeless), nor have I been dishonourable...


When did the discussion become about theft? Granted, greed can motivate a person to steal but we weren't discussing theft.

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I almost fell of my chair laughing madly when I searched the date you left and I was reminded in full upon the search result, I may have been unconsciously motivated in part of irony? oh well, really the motivation for this topic was to juxtapose the bias on the Islam forum, I remembered last year my partner was showing off about Hitler's birthday to annoy me. My partner is Slavic by the way, I'm not racist I simply despise "extreme" monotheism and the worst one in my opinion is the cult of YHWH because "they" apply racist ideology it's not the other way around.


Well, I'm glad you laughed. I figured it was just a coincidence but the irony was too good to pass up. Your clarification that you aren't racist is nice but not necessary. You are correct though, anyone who claims to be of a "chosen people" based on something as arbitrary as race is ridiculous.

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Satanist don't side with any of these religious fanatics and fight for freedom for all, plain and simple. Satan is freedom.


I disagree. I don't fight for anyone but myself and those whom I care for. And even then there is a time when a person must stand on their own two feet.
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#53281 - 04/22/11 12:02 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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I like your reply. I was watching youtube videos about the horror in Palestine and because the Arab people were minding their own business and Jew people were throwing stones and trying to break in to Arab homes shouting "this is mine!" I just thought I'd post something that was culminating anyway, I didn't like the Islam forum because it was one sided for non-Muslims to talk about Muslims who live in fear of the extremists.

I was reading up and I can see why, to a degree, how some Muslim feel extreme, considering what is happening in their homeland. Think about it, white people throw rocks at your house, beat you up and members of your family, shoot everyone, then you come to the west to get way and there is all people who look the same and you don't know if their beliefs are the same as those who fucked with you back home. If I was living in Palestine I'd not trust anyone ever again (which I don't).

I mentioned the stealing thing because I was reading that Talmud stuff, where it says a Jew can take what he likes from a Goyim. It just reminded me of some people I have encountered in life, it's because the main thing that really makes me feel sick is when naive people think they can't take petty liberties and fuck with others, thinking they are somehow sinister or threatening, totally oblivious to the fact that they'll get their head smashed in.

I was referring to Satan being freedom, the freedom is for anyone who wants to take on the responsibility, I worded it as such because Satan liberates man who is able to go his own way, deprogramming our societal conditioning bringing us back to nature. I "use" Satanism, I'm not a Satanist by my own definition, I'm just a godless heathen who has his personal honour. I don't believe one needs an ideology to treat others with respect, animals respect their own kind and we are one species.

To answer your question if I want anything else, I'm not sure, I'm not passionate because I'm calm, I don't want anything which ties me to involving with others, I'm private, I only require my tools and exercise equipment, I'm cold and driven to be free, there is nothing else to want. I don't want anything but quality time alone and with my partner, I'm not complex at all you know, I just like to walk in the woods, I mind my own business more than you might realise.
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#53316 - 04/22/11 02:00 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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I'm cold and driven to be free, there is nothing else to want. I don't want anything but quality time alone and with my partner, I'm not complex at all you know, I just like to walk in the woods, I mind my own business more than you might realise.


I’m kind of the same way. Although I enjoy certain luxuries, I prefer to mind my own business and my main desire in life is to be left alone and out of the grid.
Unfortunately I find that the more a person wants to be left alone and to mind their own business, the more interest people seem to take in them.
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#53318 - 04/22/11 04:27 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Asmedious]
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Well.......... whilst the good chaps of the world are busy bent on exterminating each other for god it at least takes the focus off us! So sure, they can be the chosen people if they wish. Chosen to oversee neighbouring Arab oil reserves and live with targets on their backs. They can be chosen to complain about being the victims of holocausts and suicide bombings........ sure no problem........ god obviously loves them dearly? Chosen to invade and occupy someone elses land....lol! like a crack addict with an attitude sitting down to watch tv in your lounge, after they've wacked your family after a home invaision!
Is Zionism and Judaim a threat to Satanism? I don't think so? With a friend like god who needs enemies....lol!

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#53324 - 04/22/11 05:23 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Zakary]
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People may like to say they are misanthropes, they often aren't, instead they simply just don't value human life because they don't try. I respect people who show respect, in fact I value those people and make effort on occasion.

I consider it rude to disturb another human beings mindfulness. Some of us don't tolerate parasites, we are private and deserve respect for being so, without want for anything of others. Religious people think they are special and can invade others privacy, a godless heathen does not submit to anyone or anything, this means for some of us, we don't even listen to what others are saying when they ask the wrong questions alien to our mindful lifestyle.

My view of the monotheisms.

Christians = subterranean conspiracy, passive aggressive, parasitism

Judaism = blatant parasitism, racist

Islam = Private but retaliatory to the other two monotheisms and associates scientific atheists with Christians.
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#53326 - 04/22/11 06:22 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias
My view of the monotheisms.


I'll take it a step further, and propose you see monotheistic religions being a parasite on God. (I don't see it that way.)

Judaism is an ethnic religion in which the obedience or disobedience of the human Will to the Will of God is the crucial issue. The religion is an intense realization of the divine, thus, propounding human seperation. In Judaism, God is One: the transcendent, personal God who creates, sustains and rules humans and the world with the above all command for Jews to achieve righteousness. Hence, the seperation and unity of humans becomes a secondary, peripheral issue.

Christianity places its emphasis on Jesus Christ as the ideal for reuniting humans and God, and preaches the universal salvation of humankind through the sacrifical love of God manifested in Christ. The problem of sin is most profoundly felt, and Death is realized as the result of sin and not the other way around.

Even though I am not a Jew, I have a tremendous amount of feeling and respect for the religion as a whole. My feelings towards Christianity is severly thwarted as to make my connection a disconnection or non-existent. There is a wide gap between the two. (A result of personal struggles with both.)

The problem of monotheistic religions is not merely an objective and historical issue. It is one's own personal and existential problem. Whether or not one believes in the possibilty of the divine as future universal forms of world religions is entirely dependent upon whether or not a person is in direct contact with the Logos (literally meaning the word of the divine.)

What are the Logos? You have a Mind, use it.

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p.s.-- What about Setism? I don't know anything about the religion, so I cannot say.
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#53328 - 04/22/11 06:43 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: paolo sette]
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I was not referring monotheism as being a parasite unto god, monotheism is invasive and alien, permeating the minds of man throughout the practice of it's existence. There is no spiritual plane. Humans are subatomic particles just like everything else. The contemporary religious worldview is nothing to do with my reality, I live as a man, I know I am designed to focus on that which is the ecosystem, I perceive objects as solid because I am vibrating at the same frequency. We perceive what we do out of necessity, the religious mind creates fantastic subjecture and bloats that which is out of his ecosystems focus, removing him from nature.

God is a dangerous thing for what is God but extremely exaggerated thoughts of being superior in alignment with an all controlling ultimate power of the universe whilst dismissing nature itself.

I equate monotheist pushers to drug pushers who have no place molesting others with their indoctrinations, I affirm sobriety and affirmation of nature. Mindfulness in abstractionless affirmation of nature as opposed to the abstract unnaturalness of spirituality. Altered states are easily explained through scientific means.

My view is simple, the demiurge is the world by which the individual perceives and is only the phenomenal form of it's idea—the ego which is negative and weak being based on illusions. The dissolving Chaos powers, the shadow within the unconsciousness, the positive and powerful aspects and that which projects ego. The demiurge is a false light which casts a shadow, the hidden potentiality of the individual, the Jungian Shadow is the countercurrent to the traditional concepts of monotheistic religions. It's Chaos powers dissolve the false light of ego. Analysing the shadow in the cold light of day, the destructive shadow can cause the individual to be controlled by its projections into the individuals conscious mind is he lacks a strong will. Anti-Cosmic Gnosticism is Left Path philosophy for some practitioners that reinforces one's destructive shadow with desire to destroy the demiurge creation. This may be seen as a Shadow projection yet this form of Luciferianism seems more successful in objective respects for me as I've always been aggressively nihilistic as psychological state and as consequence, philosophical, a confusion relating active and passive nihilism as the same thing is common among those who would not care to understand.

Shadow work is considered inherently dangerous by contemporary occultists. Especially egoistic Satanist. I won't get into a debate about "types" of ego and the very different distinctions, but you get the picture. Qliphoph praxis does not mean I follow Judaism.
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#53336 - 04/22/11 09:16 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias
God is a dangerous thing for what is God but extremely exaggerated thoughts of being superior in alignment with an all controlling ultimate power of the universe whilst dismissing nature itself.


It is necessary for theistic religions to re-examine the basis of its world view. A worldview is to a right-hand religion what water is to fish. It is the indispensable condition through which a theistic religion can come into existence. Water is neither the life of fish nor its body, yet it is fundamentally linked to both. For a rhp religion to change its world view is a matter no less fatal than for a fish to change from salt water to fresh.

What is even more crucial and important is that each religion re-examine and re-interpret that particular tradition's understanding of God (the godhead or satanhead) or the "ultimate" and Its relation to humankind and the world. Satanism which is fundamentally non-theistic is antipode to Judeo-Christianity which is theistic. Religion provides an answer to the question of "why". Theism's answer to the question of "why" is in terms of the Will of God, the 'rule of God' and accompanying ideas such as creation, incarnation, redemption and final judgement. On the other hand, Satanism provides a non-theistic answer to question of "why" through its emphasis on cause and effect, the Self, pragmatism, temporal nature, carnality and so forth.

I am God.

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#53383 - 04/23/11 08:46 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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This is a very interesting topic. Being perfectly honest and pragmatic, I see ALL of this Judeo Christian Islamic stuff as a definate threat to Satanism. First of all, montheism is not possible or practical in the universal scheme of theology, in a sense that we are dealing with eons of time, different cultures, different places, most of whom were completely disconnected, and polytheistic, at least as far as we know. So, monotheism is a fascist dogma in and of itself. Gods and spirits simply are more power active than that, in my humble opinion.

I think Dr. LaVey made it fairly clear that Islam has been a threat to Satanism since the days of the Yezidi, for example. But even though we live in a different age where we, at least we in the West, who benefit from the hard fought efforts of our warrior bretheren, have the comfort and freedom to practice what we do with a sense of honour and pride, rather than having to go back into the woods, are having to be cautiously optimistic.

But the bad old days weren't so long ago. And for many, they have never ended. That's the scary reality to the world at large. Even though we live in such a sheltered environment, that poses it's own set of unique challenges in it's own rite, we can never sometimes predict exactly what the future will bring, and certainly should take nothing for granted.

It has been clear to me for many years that the conventional religious community, at least on paper, sees us as an ultimte, sort of, menace to their one sided dogma. I just don't believe that most of them take us seriously, because we have been badgered back into the hole as a bunch of misfits and lunatics, a vast minority, that is so out of touch with reality and mainstream society, that it is hardly worth mentioning. The New Age and White Witchcraft movements, in particular, have been on the air waves openly condemning us and illustrating to the public that we pose some sort of obscure, incideous threat. What else is there to counter it for them? So for now, we're off the hook, hanging out in our Western country club. But the question is, for how long?

As much as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are similar, and in as much as they are adversarial and contradictory to one another, perhaps these sort of distractions are the very formula that keeps us off of their radar screen.

Might is Right!


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#53412 - 04/24/11 03:34 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Dave Pellani]
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I don't really see how a religion can be a threat to a philosophy. A dominant religion can attempt to control the knowledge spread or even persecute those publicly outing themselves as, but it can hardly affect the philosophy itself. It is a memeplex and that can only be affected by a complete removal.

While Satanism is bullet-proof; it's only the satanists that aren't. The art is to not volunteer as target.

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#53415 - 04/24/11 07:09 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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Like many contemporary socialites, they also believe they have special molestation rights to invade our privacy with their parasitic behaviours whatever these may be, suspect friendliness, nauseating pretentious eye contact, or envious intent to convert you to their ways of thinking, with contrived harmful intent as a loaded response, it's all the same and uncalled for, hence they put their own safety in jeopardy out of lack of social respect and lack of misanthropic hygiene.

If a parasite approaches you, ask him kindly to stop bothering your solitary mindfulness with the very best manners you can give him, if he becomes aggressive, then "correct" his manners and continue with minding your own business. If the unstable human becomes violent and is rendered insentient as consequence then this is mundane and not of your concern.

I respect others privacy. At least Islamic peoples have their own private communities and treat eachother how they expect, for instance if I was to go to the Arab country I'd abide by their traditions out of respect, same as if I were to go to Japan, I'd abide by their traditions too, non Muslims are forbidden to enter no go areas because western people drink alcohol and do drugs hence they cannot be trusted to act in sobriety. Most westerners are rude in some way, I'm not rude and would not appreciate somebody trying to teach me manners I already know and abide by, it's common sense to respect others privacy, art and literary preferences, especially if he is trying to get on with a private life.


The people of Judaism seem to think everything is theirs to take according to lines in the Talmud? If those lines were out of context then it's very confusing?
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#53482 - 04/25/11 05:24 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Dave Pellani]
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 Originally Posted By: Dave Pellani
This is a very interesting topic. Being perfectly honest and pragmatic, I see ALL of this Judeo Christian Islamic stuff as a definate threat to Satanism. First of all, montheism is not possible or practical in the universal scheme of theology, in a sense that we are dealing with eons of time, different cultures, different places, most of whom were completely disconnected, and polytheistic, at least as far as we know. So, monotheism is a fascist dogma in and of itself. Gods and spirits simply are more power active than that, in my humble opinion.


Theology has attempted to broaden its scope by taking on critical considerations of modern science and mathematics. According to some subdivisions, the ultimate is not a personal God, but creativity--for example. Both God and the world are understood as outcomes of the principle of creativity. God and the world as understood are interpenetrating and interdependent in terms of growth in which occasions of experience are dynamic acts of Becoming. The notion of the ultimate as creativity is less alien to modern scientific mechanistic view of the world than the traditional ideas of a personal God.

Therefore, the hybrid theology is partially mechanistic and partially teleological (aim-seeking). This is clearly seen when creativity as the ultimate is understood to be realizable only when the many Become one, and when creativity is possible through an open future and closed past--that is, through the irreversibilty of unidirectional time.

This theology falls short--it does not overcome 'Nihility without God' which is opened up at the base of the scientific view and the modern world. I wonder if this type of thinking is really compatible with modern science, though. In order for a theology to be compatible with science, it must be of a thoroughly mechanistic and impersonal nature while retaining a teleological (aim-seeking) and personal nature as well. (I do not see it coming with theistic religions.)

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Theism is teleological (aim-seeking).

non-Theism is mechanistic.
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#53515 - 04/26/11 02:18 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: paolo sette]
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Very interesting.

I look upon the whole thing differently. As we are all merely subatomic particles vibrating at a certain frequency, we perceive objects which are solid as those objects are vibrating at more or less the same frequency and this makes them impassable, and so we may move about in the plane of our perceived ecosystem. We are 3rd dimensional shadows of the 4th dimension and hence we cannot see the 4th dimension where we are projected from, the 4th is a shadow of the 5th all the way up till the 11th dimension and down to the 1st. This can also be summarised from quark size ranging up to cosmic size as being infinitesimal dividing lines which is actually unity between corporeal differentiated relativity to incorporeal undifferentiated relativity. Quantum Physics can let us theorise as to what is the incorporeality of the Unknown, the Interaction of incorporeality and Mind, and the dimensions of the unknown which influence all in the corporeal dimensions of our reality.

So insofar as religious racial supremacy goes, it's all rather lame considering we are all one species who may communicate and work progressively together. Respecting one another's proximities is among the animal kingdom and intrusion is met with resolution, yet humans see fit to be parasitic even though we have the power of speech? how embarrassing. Animals are without demiurgic ego's, they can adapt to the ecosystem better than modern humans do and respect their own species, animals kill out of necessity and eat the prey, humans who would differentiate one another due to slight DNA alterations, as a different species, is laughable, humans kill one another and don't even eat the flesh, the animal kingdom is many shades of grey with gradients of adaptability insofar as consciousness and senses go and I would assume that a man is a man and a wolf a wolf, yet extreme religious persons seem to take root in the idea that things such as beliefs are absolute and in those beliefs is racism which holds no place in science and nature where social Darwinism is speciesism or necessity, at the most we can see that respect for pack territory is as hostile as a species gets to itself, this is for survival and is natural, and nothing to do with causal abstractions of the ego such as racism and sexism and other such egoistic moral fallacies.

I affirm the Universe's heat death through entropy, culminating one unified black hole state—Sitra Achra. The dynamics of Chaos. The scythe smites all. Death worship without afterlife fantasy. Black Holes are theorised from observation, to be the source of creation/destruction in the Universe, hence science is able to interpret the unknown in a rationalistic way where if we do so choose, we may apply gnostic or religious metaphor to our progressive discoveries, much like Jungian archetypes which carry Gnostic reference and parallels.

As you may have implied, Paolo Sette, religions ought to have a revaluation of values once in a while in relation to science and psychology.

My personal acquisition on the adversarial current within man is related to will to power and natural drives. The word Satanism does me no justice nor anything positive due to the connotations with egoistic ID worship among what is modern day Satanism's contemporaries.

What do you make of this.

“And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto Jehovah. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And Jehovah had respect unto Abel and to his offering: but unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell” (Gen. 4:3-5).

My take.

“And in process of time it came to pass, that Qayin brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the demiurge. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the demiurge had respect unto Abel and to his offering: but unto Qayin and to his offering he had not respect. And Qayin was very wroth, and his countenance fell”.

More of my personal acquisition.

Abel was deluged in heartlessness for pleasing the demiurge (ego), worshipping him was most important. This hubris besickened Qayin. Qayin would not murder the animals needlessly nor burn the flesh needlessly for he was a farmer and saw this as a threat to the community. Abel was a mere Sheppard and Qayin was a Farmer. Abel's hubris demiurge worship was so blind that he thought it powerful to sacrifice one of his animals needlessly and burn it, thus wasting the food needlessly. The resourceful farmer Qayin saw this vulgar display of power as a threat to his livelihood, Qayin attempted to demonstrate how to burn plant matter for fire source, still Abel was quite insane, needlessly murdering and burning the animals who would serve a purpose on the farm. The only choice was to kill Abel who was mad with demiurge worship and could not be trusted. Qayin received an indelible mark—misanthrope.

I'm not religious just scientific and rational in thinking. I may be nihilistic but this is unto the the blind slave morality. One needn't think himself above morality yet revalue what is intrinsic. The religions seem to demand absolute conform to a slave morality which has no clear explanation and so warping of man's natural unconditional respect of his own kind is stifled and confused with unnecessary indoctrination. To show respect to others ways is common sense, to impose like an intruder is asking for retaliation. Deeds, and only deeds, define a man's nature, not his words or righteous claims.

I can respectfully let the people of Judaism be happy to carry on amounting to whatever they like, far away from my proximity.
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#53536 - 04/26/11 09:36 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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I understand what you're saying, and to clarify what I meant to address was the issue you bring up here, and that was exactly my point. Let's call it a technicality in understanding the point.

Not to be overly generalized about it, I think it depends on what one's understanding of a "threat" is. It is an unfolding process, that is regional, and case by case, and what it really comes down to is the situation of each individual, and not the philosophy, of which I do not necessarily agree is entirely bullet proof. That is another issue where an individual, or group, is vastly out numbered and who could be subject to broader negative public scrutiny.

So, if this is contingent on secrecy, or privacy, as you suggest, then that is an issue that needs to be dealt with, again, on the basis of who actually has access to "public" forums where they don't belong, for example. Another situation is that there is, indeed, a confrontational attitude by certain media types that openly polarize these issues and align themselves with Judeo Christianity, vs. Satanism. THAT, at least I, consider to be threat to freedom of expression and attempted character assassination of the philosophy itself, futile as it may be. These are people who have agreat deal more power than we have, in terms of "outreach". But public diologue may be valubale in order to bring the issue to the awareness of anyone who may have a stake in protecting their privacy, interests, or their reputation, none of which I personally loose any sleep over. If that were the case, I wouldn't be here, for sure

But your comment is well taken.


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#53539 - 04/26/11 10:59 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Dave Pellani]
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I don't like, nor dislike, all is clearly disclosing itself. To be concerned with a needless struggle between opposing abstractions is like a disease of the mind.

If we were to align ourselves to any causal abstraction we would consign ourselves to a monopoly of negative connotations and responsibilities which are not ours. I walk a solitary path finding simplicity in the Tao.

I will be meditating for my solitary mindfulness. Are you lot aware that time moves so slowly in an altered state, this is someting to be particularly mindful of as we get older as awareness increases, meditation is more so important to slow time perception.

I would not consider Zen or the Tao a religion but self understanding and affirmation nature, of simplicity, of what is without trying to localise it. There is no stress from understanding this. Religions can harbour those who would cause stress to others and hence disturb the mindfulness of themselves and others trying to localise mindfulness with force. I do not see any reason to get in ones own way.
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#53541 - 04/26/11 11:29 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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 Originally Posted By: Diavolo
Religion does not cause suffering as are those handily using that religion as an excuse, even if merely at a subconscious level.

The situation in Palestine is silly but if Israel wouldn't be manifesting there, quite soon another neighbor would fill that gap or they'd be fighting internally. That region has been a continuous war zone throughout time. Anyone browsing through the history of the last two thousand years will notice there never has been a period without war somewhere and peace often only implied the time needed to build up for the next conflict.

That is what man is; a warrior; some noble, some sneaky bastards, but this is the easiest and best working method in expressing Will to Power. Religion merely serves as the golden glitter brightening that drive. If we don't kill them because they believe different, it is because they think different and if that isn't the case, they probably look, smell or walk different. Just give us an excuse else we'll invent one.

Man is driven towards change and thus driven to destroy. It is not a drive one can control, it can only be directed.

D.
I agree. I will say again that I feel man destroys himself because he does not hunt for food like he is designed for. There is not a harmonic balance of opposites because of friction caused as consequence of change, destruction of inanimate matter and rebuilding in the environment ought to be among our own tribes or communities where resolution is internal and other disputes between clansmen is internal. Somewhere along the lines man has seen fit to encroach on other civilisations and tribes as something other than contributory and far outstayed welcomes.

If communities fight among "themselves" this is going to be resolved in "their ways" as the dispute would be internal and with want for resolve, quite different to compartmentalisation justification of violence to those not the same as they, this is why one ought to obide by the customs of other cultures when happening to accidentally and most unfortunately walk into their territory before getting the fuck out with politeness before you accidentally offend anyone, otherwise it's fight to the death and commiserations and absurdity all round. Trying to impose a set of similar rules without the cultural literary and art preferences that make a differently cultured person feel positive in spirit, obviously this is going to create negativity and depression, needlessly.

Modern man does not have an outlet for his propensity as a hunter gatherer? Thus mankind preys upon himself. Seems to me some cultures lack enough exercise/gym facilities, healthy outlets for aggression to relieve stress, improve health, mind and body.
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#53542 - 04/26/11 11:58 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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Yes, there is a fine line between detachment from the dualism of walking the solitary path, mindful of the sangsara, and being a socially involved animal at the same time. It's a very delicate juggling act. I have had my own struggle with it for most of my own life, but the social tends to over ride the solitary mindful in my case, although I can flip flop back and forth from it at any given point in time.

The human existence is very complex, and the struggle to overcome in a harmoniously, self serving altruistic way is more my style of living, with the sociological pressures that we may incur at any given time as well. It would be an alternative to divorce myself from all the challenges of this, which I have tried before, but it does not work for me, since most of humanity, the vast majority in fact, does not see it the way we do. In an ideal world, that would not be the case, but we do not live in an ideal world. What I believe we have to prepare for, in the survival of the fittest mode, is the unforseen challenges that undoubtedly lie ahead, which may entail some forms of aggression and defense of one's mode of life and whatever it takes to accomplish that, whether it be magikal metaphysical working or to just deal with the mundane, as each year brings new challenges. But never to take your eye off the ball, because some days you will eat the bear, and some days the bear will eat you.


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#53573 - 04/27/11 06:28 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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It is almost impossible to deal with a problem of the magnitude of 'Religion and Science' in scale and depth. I attempted to give some reasons therein, but remain very obtruse. More will follow tailored to your post as I see it:

Stages of Mind cannot include or embrace a previous stage or latter. But, the Final Stage of Mind includes everything from the first to when it's finished. This means you cannot truly understand on the basis of a stage what happened in a previous or latter stage. There is no continuity, no ascending bridge to a higher stage from a lower one. There is a complete discontinuty or disjunction between each stage. A person must "leap" from one stage to the next. Overcoming discontinuty indicates Absolute Negation. (Absolute Negation is simply an affirmation. The words of Absolute Negation and affirmation are dynamically identical.) Negation as through 'discontinuty' between stages of Mind is overcome through an "abnegation", "Self-denial" or "renunciation" of a stage in the ultimate existential sense.

You posit words from the Bible which seems to be sheer objective realization. But, it is not herein that you are talking objectively. You are asking a question about yourself. This does not mean that you are talking about symbols of yourself, but rather you are writing about your own Reality. This is because in the stage of Mind that you are in, the subject-object duality is completely overcome and the subject as it is, is object or not; the object as it is, is subject or not.

For a higher stage is not a static end to be reached progressively through a lower stage, but a dynamic whole which includes both affirmation and Negation. It is from the implication of temporal sequence is completely overcome. When the dynamic whole is precisly realized, you Will embrace the past, present and future all at once and you'll act to avoid illusions or delusions which hamper you.

As to your question of "why" God was averse to Cain's offerings, Cain is considered by God to be the ultimately Absolute, Self-existing Divinity. Why should God accept an offering from such Force?

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p.s.--Words to chew on.
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#54333 - 05/11/11 01:22 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: paolo sette]
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I may have to leave this discussion later if it gets too out of control or boring for me but briefly:

These are essentially the same contradictory arguments found on white nationalist websites.

If you believe in Nietzsche then you believe in survival of the fittest. So how can you be so alarmed that the weaker groups are becoming prey to the Jews?

Jews are the ultimate role model for me and my own group. By the way most schools of Judaism today are in secret actual Satanists!!! Israel literally means "one who wrestles with god" I believe it was Jacob in the Bible who fought an angel. The whole philosophy is satanic but of course they have no obligation towards other people. They aren't going to tell you all the inner most secrets of judaism simply because you ask. They will probably misdirect you.

I don't find it odd that Jews look out for their own self interest, are deceptive or racist. What is odd to me is how most races (especially whites) roll over and submit to Jews. How stupid and gullible non-Jews can be. That's the only problem. I hate the weakness in myself rather than hate the person who has dominated over me. Though I guess at some point I can hate those who do me wrongly as well.

The entire premise of these arguments are irrational though:

"We are a superior race" and in the next breath "2% of our society has control over the other 98% supreme ones". That's a contradiction.

Or other such contradictory nonsense. It all comes down to the ramblings of the loser. That's why I've been ejected from WN websites and can no longer stomach their philosophy. On the surface it sounded reasonable but when you start picking it apart its all just loser Marxist whining.

Judaism is unlikely to threaten Satanism. Judaism does not believe in forcing their religion on others. It generally exists in diversity, it is a driving force behind the illuminati, masons and other luciferian traditions which support democracy and religious pluralism (though I guess also Jews seem to have held a lot of power in the Catholic church as well! And in the anti-religious Communist systems- so who knows- but Judaism as a religion generally is tolerant).

Jews are a tribe of people, but they will accept converts. It just isn't easy to get into the tribe, because they aren't actively seeking people like other religions, but it's possible to get into the tribe if someone really wanted to.

More or less I consider my own Hraftzer system to be a more Europeanized/Germanic version of Judaism. It is based upon similar tribalistic and satanic principles.

By the way the "star of David" itself is the symbol of Satanism. According to inner Judaic belief God is giver and taker. Helper and oppose. In other words God and Satan are one being. This is the duality of male and female represented by the two triangles in the star. One points up (god- heavenly) one down (satan- aggression). The balanced person is both- kind, but also destroys his enemies for example.
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#54340 - 05/11/11 05:00 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Thule]
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 Originally Posted By: Thule
If you believe in Nietzsche then you believe in survival of the fittest.


I think you are mixing up concepts. Believing in Nietzsche (a strange wording) does not equal believing in survival of the fittest. That's Darwin and it implies that those lifeforms that “fit” their habitat best, are most likely to survive. It has little to do with muscle or stamina.

That the weaker group become prey to the stronger is natural. We don't need to find it good, fair, or preferable but that does not imply it isn't as it is. Opposing it is like opposing gravity; even when resisting, one is subject to it.

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#54410 - 05/13/11 05:23 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Thule]
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I reject fully any orthodox attitudes or perspectives, and dismiss all religions as false. I embrace the heterodox, so a person may rationalize my intentions as something similar to theos views of heathenism, heretical or pagan. I reject theologies of the secular that posit a theology by having extensive written documents from multiple authors all saying basically the same inner-core ideas: redemption and salvation. This is represented in our millenium through the absolutization of one's own religion as the only true revelation and regards others as futile human attempts to reach the divine, e.g. God.

To this attitude, I see the history of all religions as having no positive significance. On the other hand, exemplifications by the theology-without-God language absolutizes the secular and tries to absorb the sacred with the secular.

Who does God, the ultimate, worship? Nothing. Everything in conventional existence is Empty as represented through Void of inherent reality. God, the ultimate, ascribes to Nihilism.

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#55945 - 06/17/11 01:02 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Tesseract]
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The anti-semetic beliefs of numerous counter-revolutionaries on this forum are disgusting, especially when tied to 9/11 truth conspiracy theory. That said, Zionism isn't kosher in the religion of Judaism. What Israelis won't tell you is that the notion of a Jewish nation is actually blasphemy, and the sort of hubris typically punished by their god. As an anarcho-communist who is opposed to all nationalist ideologies, Zionism isn't kosher with me either. There is a certain amount of permeability in the Left of anti-semites who become anti-Zionists to hide their racist intentions, but in my mind Israel is a state set aside purely for individuals of a particular race. The Israeli government also violently represses the Palestinian people in a way that's completely unacceptable. Death to Israel. We don't owe them their own land, no matter what unfortunate tragedy may have fallen upon them.
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#55948 - 06/17/11 02:51 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Dialectical]
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'Anti-semitism' is a causal abstraction that exists purely to keep stooges like you in line.Everyone should just get along right? Never have I met such a devoted slave as you.
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#55951 - 06/17/11 02:55 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Dan_Dread]
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No, people shouldn't get along. The name Dialectical assumes two opposing voices. Killing blacks and hookers, as satanists are wont to do, is more foolish then killing the pig who keeps you at your shitty job that you hate but still work every day.
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#55954 - 06/17/11 05:51 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Dialectical]
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Smile Dialectical, smile. Grow a sense of humour and you'll realise you have things in common with those who agree to disagree.

Also,

I am not sure why you'd put blacks and hookers in the same sentence but you can't kill a prostitute, they're already dead... already dead...
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#57786 - 07/29/11 09:21 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Diavolo]
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Personally I see little value in your description of the Jew and his motives, unless we construct a straw Jew who fits, as we, evidently, create our straw Muslim, straw Nazi, straw Satanist...etc. The value in creating those is in its purpose and those creating them realize this quite well. I think the days the Jew serves that purpose are over, even when they still take a prominent place into many a conspiracy theory.
Well I did do my best to present some vicious satire and propaganda and it seems to have devalued itself and been debunked. This is a pleasurable outcome for me as all returns to nihilism. I admit I created the whole thing from impulsive sarcasm with all intent of people popping out the woodwork to debunk it.

I would say my reaction stems from a dislike for being caught in the world where races and sects war between one another. Really I wish all males would die and leave the women and children alone. Irrational, yes, but I really have no compassion anymore, only rage when I think of women and children involved in men's wars.

You know what I am like I'll present a view just for it to be debunked or likewise play Devil's advocate for a view I don't even support just to get to the truth with others inputs. Nihilist dialectics, it's all I do on here.
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#57795 - 07/30/11 12:32 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias
Nobody cares about Christianity, Christianity is dead, only the decayed husk of it's morality can we smell in our society. I


Actually, you would be surprised that Christianity is sill the world religious majority at 2.1 billion worldwide, whereas Judaism is at a mere 14 million. Islam is at 1.5 billion (2nd place) and Secularism (agnostics/indifferent theists/atheists) are at 1.1 billion.

Here is a link to corroborate my numbers.

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

Also, you must take into consideration that as you stated, the line that divides Judaism between religious group and ethnic group is quite faded, therefore do not be surprised that there are many "Jews" with different beliefs, such as non-religious Jews who would probably consider themselves atheists or agnostics.

Perhaps the parallel you have drawn between America and Israel is the fact that since the majority of Americans are Christians, (I must state that in the U.S. Judaism comes in third after Secularism in 2nd and Christianity in 1st) and Christians are bound to the concept of "The people of God as Israel" (just read some of St Peter's writings in the New Testament), automatically it is easy to set up a mirror state in the middle east, even though the real purpose for the alliance is to secure first world (U.S. and its allies) interests in that part of the world.

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#57810 - 07/30/11 06:31 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: a. don]
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Christianity was always dead, it is death worship— a slave morality. I would use this quote from a very unwell man "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."— Jimi Hendrix

The line devalues itself unintentionally and gives false hope to the powerless. After all, love, itself, is a disguised form of the will to power. Also that peace of mind is not about the anxious and powerless, and so they urge to avoidance, this is peace, by any other name, whilst peace of mind is always about the predator, especially when he's destroying his lesser. In the world arena, peace is a state of inaction, an empty stage for the will to power to enter and assert itself. Jimi was a very disgusting man, a heroin addict yes, but disgusting if not only for putting "peace" in the same sentence as "love" as undeniably, love is felt as fury.

Christianity is dead, and the smell of its decayed morality lingers on all infected with pity. Monotheism by any other name would only confer pity out of conceitedness. A conceited conferral of altruism often combined with masochism i.e. unnecessary empathy. Oftentimes this so called humility is nothing but malign optimism with a not so hidden agenda to justify spite to those who would reject their unwanted kindness.

Monotheism impositions dependency and I would bash the spirit from those solemn eyes of deceit. This brings to mind the Christ and how his magical thinking lead to his exemplary humiliation on the cross. Would the reality of his symbolism be quite different if he were boiled in hot excrement as written in the Talmud? After all, a faecalised corpse left to the copulation of flies would be a more adequate representation of the Jesuitical mind and soul. Judeo-Christianity in its most pure form is conceit about its masochism— whom can bare the most dehumanising ordeal, without fighting back and without the will to overcome. Merely uneasiness in the presence of reality, an attempt to face suffering by their own design as to feel a false sense of power over what they have no will to overcome. Exaltation of all that is incompetent, powerless, negative and weak.

They would gather in numbers only to scatter and desert one another like mortified lambs.
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#57819 - 07/30/11 12:04 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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I think that one thing is to know the rottenness and deviation inherent to Christianity and its moral standard as well as the hypocrisy and double moral standard of most Christians.

But it is dangerous to underestimate the range of influence it still exerts upon human action and policy. And even more dangerous to underestimate the Christian individual.

Satanism (that is, by LaVey's standard) was created to counter a society polluted with falsehood by a religion which has control (or at least influence) of most the world.

It's true that Zionism is caused by the racist tendencies of Judaism. Still however, Judaism isn't sufficient alone - Christianity is keen on instigating Zionist thought and policy.

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#57822 - 07/30/11 01:02 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: a. don]
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I have observed many people (Satanists) who pull out the "stop tying to be a reverse Christianity" as if in some way Satanism that opposes Christianity is a black mirror of Christianity's design.

Such is to cause falsehood because to do the opposite of what Christianity teaches is not to mirror its essence or form or to blindly dismiss it, instead, we affirm life and pave way back to Nature and truth based on the will to power.

I have observed people (Satanists) whom dismiss the Christian outer form (the priest, nuns, prayer, church etc.) but exhibit the essence of Christian thought. Same with some illiterate Atheists whom think to dismiss something which they cannot even see, or at best dismissing the outer from of Christianity whilst harbouring its essence in their personality fabric.
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#57832 - 07/30/11 03:58 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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Again with the illiterate atheists!

Put that way, I suppose it all depends on which branch of Satanism you belong to and your personal view and criteria.

I would argue that what is the point of using the name and imagery of something that originated within Christianity such as "Satan" and "Lucifer" if it were not to draw a diametrically opposite paradigm??

Don't get me wrong, I understand that many of the names of demons and devils come from many different pagan cultures. And I realize that the concept of a "devil" stands the same for most religions, and their value is as far as the liberation and support of human nature and the love of life.

My point is, that Christian doctrine demonizes human nature, hence the utilization of "Satan" as the paradigm of humanity and freedom to be ourselves in our case.

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#57845 - 07/30/11 10:16 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: a. don]
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I get you mean don and I agree that many occultists try so hard to be "independent or not counter xtian" to such an extent that it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy. Ultimately I think that the zionist xtian movement is more of a danger to jewish people because the whole ideology revolves around this idea that most of them will have to die to bring the "good".

I of course do greatly their concern Israel and hatred for European secular societies despite the fact that Israel is just as secular as Europe.

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#71464 - 10/01/12 10:03 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias
First of all the Zionist makes it very difficult for others to differentiate if he is a religionist or a race, so I'll be blatant and state that I don't care, what I do recognise is that they define themselves as both.


Not all jews are zionists. Not all zionists are jews. If they are a threat to "Satanism", I would suggest you call it a day.

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As there is a forum with anti-Islamic propaganda and a forum about human sacrifice I thought it only wise to expose the real threat which is at the root of both atrocities, the real threat to the cultures of the world, not just your egoistic pop culture of Satanism.


Hahaha. Quantifiable proof?

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As I have observed the pseudo-iconoclasm and pseudo-blaspheming that "Satanist" like to feel warm and fuzzy with. Nobody cares about Christianity, Christianity is dead, only the decayed husk of it's morality can we smell in our society. I have come to the conclusion that this certainly will not do. Satan is the opposer and the accuser, not a puppet that dances for religion as controlled opposition. So now for something completely different.


I reject the judeo-christian premise altogether.

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Judaism

Media

Goyim


And?

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The chosen one likes to destroy his enemy mentally, by which he takes the Gentiles material gain away, and undermines the Gentiles civil existence. The vilest of all forms of greed, the boycott, is characteristic of Judaism.


If I believed that, I would have converted to judaism years ago.

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It amazes me how easy it is to lie to the human sheep and that the majority of Americans still believe they were attacked on September the 11th by Arabs.


Objective proof?

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I have also observed how certain Satanist design to entice and tantalise silly Goyim, blatantly calling humans "sheep". Is this not different to calling humans "Goyim?" or "Gentiles?" or "Mundanes?" What we have here is a system used to trick you—a multicultural melting pot to expose our propensity and expose our intellectual thinking for all purposes of gods chosen ones to do the same to Goyim as they always have. It is customary for the chosen ones to lie to Goy and even blaspheme their own god "Satanism" to meet their agenda as the chosen ones will know in their hearts they are not really blaspheming.


I can't say I care what missives people throw around.

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Can anyone see a difference between the governments of Israel and Amerika?


Yes. The structures are completely different.
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#71465 - 10/02/12 12:07 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Le Deluge]
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Zionism is a movement within judaism. There are religous and non-religious zionists. Any kind of zionism is somewhat condemned by most of orthodox ultra-judaists.
Zionism in mainly aimed at preserving political state of Israel.
So zionism in itself is not really a threat to a Satanism, comparing to an ortodox judaism.
But an ortodox judaism is somewhat threat to Satanism per se, as any other abrahamic cults and religions are...
But islam for example would be more agressive in this context these days.
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#71470 - 10/02/12 10:41 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Naama]
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 Originally Posted By: Naama
Zionism is a movement within judaism. There are religous and non-religious zionists. Any kind of zionism is somewhat condemned by most of orthodox ultra-judaists.
Zionism in mainly aimed at preserving political state of Israel.
So zionism in itself is not really a threat to a Satanism, comparing to an ortodox judaism.
But an ortodox judaism is somewhat threat to Satanism per se, as any other abrahamic cults and religions are...
But islam for example would be more agressive in this context these days.


I could see orthodox judaism as perhaps the same as mainstream christianity. That is based on religious views though. I don't see either as a real threat.
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#75629 - 03/29/13 01:55 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Tesseract]
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Nothing is a threat to Satanism, why because it is an ideology. Satanism should not care how many people believe in it, because it does not validate itself by it's popularity. If you validate yourself by popularity and claim the name of the adversary, your a poser.

Thus, regardless of what anyone tries to do, they can not control what I believe, or get rid of the philosophy.

Nothing is a threat to Satanism, nothing has power over it.

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#75670 - 03/30/13 05:42 PM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: 334forwardspin]
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Good analysis.A thought and ideology can have great effect at it's survival.Vestiges of the ancients are constantly bombarding us in one or another guise.Remember though,we are the world's most feared religion as well.

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#76459 - 05/19/13 06:00 AM Re: Judaism/Zionism: Is it a threat to Satanism? [Re: Hegesias]
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About Judaism and Zionism as a threat to Satanism. I look at the perspective going back 50 years and Jewish people in literature, cinema, publishing, commercial art, fine art, theater, the creatives of Jewish background dealing in themes with Satan or Satanism, witchcraft, demonology, and of course, Anton LaVey and his role in much of these areas, being part Jewish on his mother's side. The heavy period of Satanic and witchcraft movies from Hollywood, plus the actors/actresses or directors, many of Jewish origins. Appears that occultism in a commercial aspect that is profitable, Jewish people and those in Zionism can adapt to Satanism too, even if only it's popular culture.

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