#55832 - 06/14/11 11:12 AM
New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck ...
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111Cal
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ok let it be said, i do not think much of either of the schrecks/dubins... they have shown themselves to be weak of character and full of ego and have burned every bridge they ever saw... from the CoS to the TOS to the neo-folk and goth music genres to their own families...
but there is a new site up
http://www.nikolasschreck.eu/
the interview section is pretty good (its all self serving BS of course) and has a really nice pic of Zeena, Nikolas and Anton LaVey together....
the Schrecks/Dubins CLAIM they are putting out new music and new books and new dvds (BUT of course they have been making those claims for about 15 years with nothing to show for it) but as far as I can tell the only NEW thing, is the update THE MANSON FILE book (which to be fair, was really boyd rices doing as he did 90% of the work) and it seems schreck has added some new ridiculous conspiracy theory updates to the book.
and it seems the book is only available in French right now with a UK version coming soon... so who knows.....
they are what they are and thats not much in my eyes, but the site is pretty interesting anyhow, enjoy
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#55858 - 06/14/11 09:32 PM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck ...
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111Cal
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The good side? You mean the side with an ear? LOL!
As for what they are selling??? who knows. the site is apparently ran by one of their few devoted fans (YES they still have those online, on facebook, on myspace) and those fans are like holocaust revisionists..... they honestly think that EVERYONE OUT THERE is in some conspiracy against the Schrecks... that everyone makes up lies.... even though these "liars" come from differnet groups, different views, and often dont even speak to one another... They think that Karla LaVey, Stanton LaVey, Diane LaVey, Peter Gilmore, Blanche Barton, Michael Aquino, Boyd Rice, Douglas P. from DIJ, Adam Parfrey, John Aes-Nihil, etc, etc, etc all decided to just slander and attack these 2 poor innocent people. These fans dont want to hear about "Schrecks" birth name or heritage, or the schrecks legal problems with the IRS or how they burned every bridge and took advantage of everyone who every tried to help them or work with them.... they just are convinced that the schrecks are right....
that said. he CLAIMS he is working on new cds (but oddly the site always says that Radio Werewolf was never about the music and he doesnt care about cds) and that he is working on books, dvds and more. BUT the only concrete thing I see is an update MANSON FILE (years after he claimed he was no longer interested in Manson)
as for their religious views? they now espouse some sort of mumbo jumbo that is a cross between new page occultnik paganism and buddhism... which makes no sense to me. Of course, they ONLY came to this current religious break through, AFTER they left the Church of Satan because daddy wouldnt retire, and AFTER they were run out of the Temple of Set for dishonest and back stabbing behavior.... so is it legit? or just their latest attempt at "being somebody"?
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#55975 - 06/17/11 02:34 PM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck ...
[Re: 111Cal]
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Gueheriet
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I also have a soft spot for "Demons of the Flesh" and "The Satanic Screen" is pretty entertaining but Radio Werewolf were the most boring and cliche death rock band on earth. They tried too hard to be edgy and just sounded like some kind of second class Mighty Sphincter.
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#55979 - 06/17/11 03:34 PM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck ...
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The Zebu
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"Flowers from Hell" again is just a collection of OTHER PEOPLES WORK AND TALENT! and even "Demons of the Flesh" is not really their thoughts, they just compiled them and really were editors...
One could argue the same thing about LaVey's bestsellers. But on the contrary, "Demons of the Flesh" was a summation of research, as opposed to an unparaphrased compilation of other people's writing pulled out-of-context. Whenever they quoted someone else's work, it was clearly indicated so.
Edited by The Zebu (06/17/11 03:34 PM)
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#56547 - 07/04/11 08:34 PM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck ...
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111Cal
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Also if anyones interested it seems one of the few diehard fans have put Wikipedia pages back up for Schreck and Zeena... both pages are extremely biased and self serving... more like fan club fluff pieces.....
with all the information out there, how can anyone take the Heckle and Jeckle of Satanism seriously????
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#56570 - 07/06/11 11:44 AM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck ...
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111Cal
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hate to bump myself, BUT apparently the "schrecks" # 1 fan has now added a seperate Zeena Site!
http://www.zeena.eu/
while the site is completely a fluff piece for Zeena to toot her own horn and make her own revisionist history of her family, her "talents", her time with both the CoS and TOS.. it does have some interesting and recent photos of the 2 of them. So for what its worth...
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#59729 - 10/03/11 01:31 PM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck
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The Zebu
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The problem I have with her is that she said her father's philosophies were too atheistic.
While I agree with her uncompromising definition of the LHP as transgressive spirituality akin to Vamachara (not the "isolate self" doctrines expounded by Aquino), I don't like that she fell for the "High Priest(ess) of X" trap like so many others have.
But at the same time I don't like how she and Nicholas venerate Charles Manson.
Serial killer chic. It's kinda gotten old by now.
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#61175 - 11/06/11 07:37 AM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck
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111Cal
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I don't really support Zeena's philosophies, but I lust for her. The problem I have with her is that she said her father's philosophies were too atheistic. As an Atheist, I don't think you can be too atheistic. She's a beautiful and sexy woman, and she's definitely a Satanic idol. But at the same time I don't like how she and Nicholas venerate Charles Manson. I'm sure Mr. Aquino understands the situation better than most of us. Regardless of what I think of her, I'd bed Zeena in a New York minute.
Zeenas outdated obsession with Manson stems more from her husband, Nikolas Schreck/ Barry (barrence) Dubin. Whast laughable is that for years they both said they had moved past Manson and there was nothing to be said... OF COURSE NOW, if you look at the websites Zeena is selling her GOD BLESS CHARLES MANSON art prints (poorly put together collage art---- about what you would expect from a high school goth) and Schreck has put out his 1000 page NEW and UPDATED The Manson File....
Why???? Because its the ONLY avenue they have left to make $$$$$$. The Satanic Community no longer listens to their web of pagan/occultnik/ever changing beliefs.... they have alienated the CoS, the TOS and the FSC, and have burned the bridges to everyone they knew... so MANSON is the only thing left they have that might sell......
so sad......
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#61176 - 11/06/11 07:39 AM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck
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111Cal
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The problem I have with her is that she said her father's philosophies were too atheistic. While I agree with her uncompromising definition of the LHP as transgressive spirituality akin to Vamachara (not the "isolate self" doctrines expounded by Aquino), I don't like that she fell for the "High Priest(ess) of X" trap like so many others have. But at the same time I don't like how she and Nicholas venerate Charles Manson. Serial killer chic. It's kinda gotten old by now.
her "uncompromising definition of the LHP"??? SURELY you jest....
her and schrecks religious views have changed so many times its silly.... from CoS to TOS to "the storm" to the new silly mix of Satanism, buddhism and old world magic all rolled into 1.....
they have no credibility b/c the odds are that in 3 years itll be some new mix of occultnik BS!
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#61229 - 11/07/11 04:53 AM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck
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Octavian
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I'm hoping they do produce some new stuff as I have liked a few of Nikolas Schreck's stuff. I have watched the film Nik made on Manson quite a few times and I thought it was interesting and thought provoking. I have always had a bit of an interest in Manson's mind and trying to get into or behind some of the so called crazy things he had to say.
I quite like Nik's book on Satanic films. I can't help liking Zeena as well and hopes she does write some good stuff. (I agree with Ashley Cor's wicked position outlined above.)
I'm not a good one for just going on and on about how somebody or some group is just shit. If you don't like their shit then just move on.
They may have fucked up and burnt bridges, but that's their shit to deal with. I am sure the Church of Satan and the Temple of Set have dealt with it and moved on. If somebody was there and was personally involved then sure I can understand if they are pissed, but if not then who cares really?
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#72420 - 11/02/12 04:50 PM
Re: New Site for Zeena (LaVey) and Nikolas Schreck
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Lightseeker
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Sorry for posting again here but I can't figure out how to add something to my last post.
I just looked at the Schrecks' website again and saw that they announced a new Radio Werewolf CD called the "Vinyl Solution", containing "classic" RW tracks.
What I was wondering about is how this fits in with the "new image" of themselves that Nikolas and Zeena are apparently attempting to establish.
What I mean is thus: One the one hand both Nikolas (in his interviews) and also Zeena (in the Nightwatch interviews) emphasise that they have greatly moved on since the times of Radio Werewolf and have developed beyond Satanism to a new, "true" LHP based on Tantric buddhism and their definition of Sethianism.
On the other hand they are now publishing a Radio Werewolf CD (at a quite high price of over 50 Euros!) and have announced a Radio Werewolf concert DVD (I believe from the "Zürich Experiment").
Nikolas himself stated in one of the interviews on his website that RW was an "experiment in sonic magic" that has been completed and that he has no interest in reviving it. Yet he is doing just that now by releasing the new CD! Also, Nikolas said that he regards himself as a person who is not interested in politics and that he regrets some of the Third Reich imagery he used back then (At least that's how I understand him). But now he releases a CD called "The Vinyl Solution". This title when spoken, is more than just a little bit reminiscent of "The Final Solution" which of course was used in the Third Reich as a term to describe the extermination of the Jewish people.
I am not writing all this to speak bad of Nikolas and Zeena. I still value their work and will definetely buy the new CD as soon as it is offered for a reasonable price. It's just that some of the things they say and do seem to contradict each other and I can't really make sense of it all.
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