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#57506 - 07/24/11 09:15 PM The Shortest Path to Power
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As a matter of personal opinion what would members consider the quickest path to power? Power is defined as basically being in control of your universe- money, women (or for some men), influence, social status etc.?

Would it be magick spells, projection, psychological manipulation, hard work- or something else?

My interest is that my entire focus is learning how I can empower myself more and improve myself (and my situation) daily.

Personally I believe that social skills and understanding human psychology play a major role. I'm looking for all angles which can be utilized. I'm most interested in things that don't require a huge commitment, so offer a pretty good return on investment for the amount of time, money etc. needed to put in them. At the same time I recognize results are contingent upon effort.

Obviously each of us has different natural talents and different opportunities to utilize. That's why I would rather just look at different possibilities and invest my energies in what seems most useful to me. i suppose in another thread we could explore an individual topic in greater detail (for example an entire topic on social skills as a means to advancement).
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#57512 - 07/24/11 10:39 PM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: Thule]
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Jeeze aren't you the same guy who in earlier posts said you suck and want people to join up with you so that you all can work to make a better group, yet you bring nothing to the table.

Then you write about how you wrote a book that is selling on lulu and that "we" should put it in the media room. Yet, you admit it is flawed with spelling errors, grammatical errors, fucked up fonts, and etc.

Then you talk about political groups and racism yet have no clue about how you write it and see things.

Now you are looking for an easy way to power over everything.

How about you try having power over yourself, and work to improve yourself, your works, your books, and your understanding of the world.

Right now, I don't know of anyone who would join up with you because you just seem to be clueless on so many different levels in how you present yourself and your ideas.

I think you have a lot of introspection to do.

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#57521 - 07/25/11 02:00 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: Morgan]
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There is no short path to power. I mean, you could start with knowledge, say reading Robert Greene, Macchiavelli, Sun Tzu, Nietzche, TSB, etc. But that's no guarantee if you have no will power. Nothing and no one can teach you that.

"Blessed are the Strong for they shall possess the earth — Cursed are the weak for they shall inherit the yoke.

Blessed are the Powerful for they shall be reverenced among men — Cursed are the Feeble for they shall be blotted out.

Blessed are the Bold for they shall be masters of the world — Cursed are the Humble for they shall be trodden under hoofs.

Blessed are the Victorious for victory is the basis of Right — Cursed are the vanquished for they shall be vassals for ever..." -Redbeard

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#57532 - 07/25/11 10:38 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: a. don]
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Ok, Thule, I will actually try to give you some constructive advice. Firstly, read the Books of the LHP thread. I and others have listed some fantastic titles there. Honestly, read them - in the order that they appear. Knowledge is the short path to power.

Now, since you mentioned it specifically - money and woman. Any normal man wants both. However, they often work against each other. This is especially true if you buy into the traditional (Judeo-Christian) notions of money and woman. I am often amazed by otherwise pagan folk, who completely reject Xtianity but are still trapped by J-C memes of power relationships, money and women/sex. Here are two websites that I recommend on the subject:

http://www.leykis101.com/

http://www.nomarriage.com/
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#57551 - 07/25/11 02:38 PM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: Fist]
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Yes it’s all about will power and determination. “winners never quit”

I have already read many of those books. I disagree with Might is Right and find only a small tid bit of information in the satanic books. The 48 laws of power is the best one and I like that. But I want to keep going and learning more. As I do I can sort through which techniques are most useful for my personality and given situation. Also though given my financial state I can’t afford to keep buying so many books. They add up to a lot of money really quick. I can read a book cover to cover in one day! Then usually I go back later and read it again!

Yes I believe in the private forum I had with my partern we discussed a bit about how marriage is bad. Yet let’s say a rock star or a person who is in a criminal gang usually gains a lot of women with no strings attached. There are certain personality types etc. which are far more attractive to women. As I’ve discovered the best way to deal with humans is to throw logic out the window and understand human psychology. Then suddenly they are begging for you. You have to understand what makes people tick so to speak.

By the way in another thread- I have watched the videos “Triumph of the Will” I have not seen any black magick there but defiantly psychological techniques of a good speaker.

Let me begin with some of what I have discovered so far. This book is a great tool:

http://www.amazon.com/Power-Some-People-...11618063&sr=8-3

It actually confirms the exact same conclusions I have come to after many years of life in the “real world”. For example I was always told to work hard to get ahead and I worked harder than everybody else and never got ahead. I realized that social skills really mattered more than competence, work ethic, intelligence etc.

Next I realized that it was a waste of time to try to reason with the majority of people. They seemed to be highly irrational. I started writing down these common themes of irrationality. Lo and behold I discovered that there are psychological names for these behaviors and they are well documented.

Some examples: “self defeating behavior” this is where people personally sabotage their own success because they are afraid of failure. They would rather not try, or have an excuse of failing instead of actually doing their best. Oddly most people do this and it is confirmed through psychological studies conducted by researches. There are also many others. Most of them are mentioned in the above book!!

“Perfect world bias” and “victim blaming” I have had a hard life and when people use and abuse me others often think less of me like its “my fault” etc. I would try to point out facts, logic, etc. but they seldom respond. By understanding these basic animal like mechanism that go on in most people’s minds I’m able to better deal with them, and most important of all- not waste my time trying to argue with irrational people.

As strange as it seems 99.9% of people are irrational to some extent or another. I was always at a disadvantage in life because for whatever reason I tend to be logical. Think about it. This is why Christianity works. It’s all about psychological techniques. Almost everybody in society was Christian at one time. There is nothing rational or logical. Most Christians never read the bible. Most people in the United States are not functionally literate (yes I had studies on this as well) whereas I’m consuming books like they are candy. So I guess it just takes a rare personality type to think like me. But by understanding human nature I can suddenly drop a lot of the dead weight which was holding me back in life.

So through a simple understanding of human psychology and social dynamics suddenly I can spring ahead in this world far above people who are more competent and working harder than me! Though in my experience most people are less competent than me, but in the least I can spring ahead of those less competent people who have socially dominated me! Which this is what I observed anyway- the lazy incompetent people who play golf with the boss and smoke weed with him tend to be the ones that get ahead rather than hard workers and such. But also those who are rude, self promoting etc. Basically sh*t rises.

From here I have been exploring optimal health techniques and strategies with someone else interested in the same thing and we have compiled a lot of resources on how to be *successful*. I want to further refine my knowledge with every trick of the trade I can possibly find.

I want to reach my full potential in other words. I just really got sick of being poor and powerless so I have dedicated myself to doing something about it. Yes it will take many years for the results of my work to manifest.

About my group:

What I bring to the table- A college degree, opportunities to MAKE A LOT OF MONEY through real estate deals I can help people with and a lot of other things (including gather the best information on success).

About the book- I simply thought people could read it and if interested join. I bought a few books full of errors as well and found great use for them. The point is people will always look for something to complain about if they are in a loser mentality. I am looking for solutions not to whine about how bad the world is or how something wasn’t handed to me on a silver platter, so in the same way I just look for people with a similar personality.

Rather than complain about the world, I seek to change myself and learn from the world as it is. Not talk about how it could be, How I could have, should have, would have, but rather focus on solutions and doing them.
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#57688 - 07/28/11 07:39 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: Thule]
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Since we're dealing with reality for some of us power and huge success may never come but the path for self satisfaction is to follow your own path and to not care nor listen to how others feel you should live your life.If people cannot accept you for you do not accept them.
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#57690 - 07/28/11 09:07 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: Targeted313]
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Let's put it this way: maximizing my potential. So yes of course it isn't necessary to be king of the world.

Typically other people are not going to treat me fairly or give me opportunity. To avoid them would be to avoid human society. This causes me to be less successful. So I have to somehow balance living in a society of users and abusers with also taking what I can from it.
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#57693 - 07/28/11 09:31 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: Thule]
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I'm not saying to avoid people if you were responding to my statement I meant do not allow people to alter your way of living or what you feel is best for you.I agree with not avoiding people.One can learn from others whether friend or foe.
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#58227 - 08/16/11 02:26 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: Targeted313]
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Power? haha man morgan owned the shit out of this guy but that aside. Power is based on how hard you try, luck, and fucking destiny. If lord satan wants you to be powerful and you try hard and pray to him then hell you might just become powerful one day but for someone to ask this question it just kind of makes you sound.. . ..well weak.
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#58230 - 08/16/11 02:47 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: jaredkk]
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You know what is really weak? Prayer. Prayer is the last (or first) refuge of the weak, the lazy, the helpless. If power is based on "how hard you try, luck, and fucking destiny" then where does prayer fit in? Especially if destiny is indeed a reality then that renders prayer even more impotent.

This is the second post of yours I have read that mentions praying to Satan. Prayer is stupid and pointless regardless of who or what you pray to. True power is taken and exercised by one's own will. If you have to pray (beg) for it then it isn't power at all.
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#58231 - 08/16/11 02:55 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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if your an Atheist then thats fine i dont care at all. if you are not then you would understand that asking for help from satan feels good and even more powerful than previously and like you have an edge of life against others and adds more motivation and confidence than you would think. If you dont want to pray then dont it isnt necessary for everyone bra. If praying is for the weak meh you could be right but if it makes you feel better then hey i say do it. Do whatever makes you feel good bra. Who says praying and destiny cannot live together in harmony anyways? Everyone is different. If you end up putting all faith into yourself then eventually you may find yourself out of luck is all i am saying

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#58233 - 08/16/11 03:06 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: jaredkk]
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if your an atheist then thats fine i dont care at all.


Gee, thanks. I don't think I would be able to sleep at night knowing my Atheism bothered someone.

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if you are not then you would understand that asking for help from satan feels good and even more powerful than previously and like you have an edge of life against others and adds more motivation and confidence than you would think.


I know something else that that feels good, is empowering and a confidence booster: getting off your ass and actually working towards the things you want.

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If you dont want to pray then dont it isnt necessary for everyone bra.


Prayer isn't necessary for anyone. And why do you insist on typing as if you are speaking in a Hawaiian accent?

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Who says praying and destiny cannot live together in harmony anyways?


Um, the implications of the words say so. If there is such a thing as destiny, then every aspect of our life is predetermined. If it is predetermined then there is no point in asking for something; we will not get it unless it is already a part of our destiny.

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Everyone is different.


An obvious and pointless observation.

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If you end up putting all faith into yourself then eventually you may find yourself out of luck is all i am saying


At least I know I actually exist. Putting all my "faith" in myself might backfire but putting any faith into fair-tales is guaranteed to leave you burnt in the end.
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#58234 - 08/16/11 03:14 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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bahahah oh man youve got to be the most ignorant faggot ive ever heard. Just seeing your rebuke my first statement with such a douchey demeanor when it was totalllllly uncalled for. Its more of a California accent sir. Man im not bothered by your Atheism you idiot! Most satanists probably begin as atheists in the first place!! Im not allowed to make observations that win nobel prizes? thanks for the update there einstein, fantastic! Yes i totally agree hard work is important i never EVER said otherwise! And you arent the ruler of destiny now are you mr. God? No you are not and you have no idea how destiny (if it exists) works! Destiny can be changed dont you understand? I know youve heard that a millllion times.

And i just want to say, if you arent a satanist why come to a satanic forum.

And also, your the reason why christians think atheists are such uptight douche bags, because it is obvious to anyone who reads your opinions. Bra. So Calm down.

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#58235 - 08/16/11 03:34 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: jaredkk]
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Wow, you broke even sooner than I thought you would.

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bahahah oh man youve got to be the most ignorant faggot ive ever heard.


I'm the ignorant one? That's funny.

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Just seeing your rebuke my first statement with such a douchey demeanor when it was totalllllly uncalled for.


I'll tell you what was uncalled for: you registering with this website and making your ridiculous postings.

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Its more of a California accent sir.


I'm from California, Oakland, to be specific and I don't talk like that. No one I know from California talks like that. The only people I have ever heard talk like that are half-retarded stoners.

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Man im not bothered by your atheism you idiot!


I was being sarcastic. Look it up. Idiot.

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Im not allowed to make observations that win nobel prizes?


You're most certainly allowed to but I doubt you have the ability to.

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Yes i totally agree hard work is important i never EVER said otherwise!


You may not have said otherwise but you definitely spent more time talking up the power of prayer which is the antithesis of hard work.

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And you arent the ruler of destiny now are you mr. God?


Yes, yes I am. I have more control over my life than anyone else.

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No you are not and you have no idea how destiny (if it exists) works!


I've already defined what destiny is in my previous post so it is obvious that I do understand "how" it works. You are the one who is misunderstanding as is evidenced by your saying:

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Destiny can be changed dont you understand?


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I know youve heard that a millllion times.


You can't know something that isn't true.

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And i just want to say, if you arent a satanist why come to a satanic forum.


Good question. Too bad it has no bearing on the discussion here.

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And also, your the reason why christians think atheists are such uptight douche bags, because it is obvious to anyone who reads your opinions. Bra. So Calm down.


Wow - I had no idea I was so influential. Perhaps I'll finally get around to typing up my Wikipedia page.

Edit: Here is the PM I just said I was going to repost so everyone can see what a douche you are

 Originally Posted By: Crybaby
YOUR TAKING FOREVER TO REPLY TO MY POST

i see that your a 25 year old faggot coming to a satanist forum to bump heads with satanists. Calling their faith a fairy tale when it doesnt even matter because everyone should practice their faith the way they want and its none of your business at all unless they are imposing some type of violence or negative thing on to you Which satanism does NOT. If this was an islam site i would totally understand but for fuck sakes your fucking faggot cunt, why are you so damn stupid for an atheist? I beleive in science and evolution just as many people do. If you really want to bump heads with people who dont agree with you on important mainstream shit then seriously, go to christian forums or something. Man your a fucking faggot. reply im getting bored and im going to get perma banned anyways so hurry up bro



Edited by 6Satan6Archist6 (08/16/11 03:41 AM)
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#58989 - 09/09/11 12:08 AM Re: The Shortest Path to Power [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Education is a sure way to gain most if not all forms of power.

Currently i'm studying for a Diploma in advanced computing which will give me the skills I need to have not just any IT job but a high paying IT job which will be secure and have lots of benefits.

I also have connections in my local goverment so that helps a lot.

It takes a lot just to get one shred of power, but its worth it

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