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#57508 - 07/24/11 09:38 PM National Socialists
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I see a lot of posts from LHP people who seem to support or be sympathetic to national socialism or at least nationalism.

This is an interesting topic.

First I find the Nazis rather interesting for their use of propaganda, magick etc. Even the United States and Russia essentially copied most of their technologies and techniques for their effectiveness. Though modern neo-nazis, nationalists and racists don't even understand the basics of nazism (at least the ones that post online, make websites etc.) rather they are just rehashing the propaganda put out by nazis (along with a combination of thee evil racist stereotype propaganda put out by modern wester societies) rather than the actually understanding, much less advocating, the original nazi ideas. The nazi literature itself is filled with a lot of contradictions and holes.

About national socialism: I used to post on stormfront and skadi. I was banned from both sites for "trolling". Rather instead I was bringing up legitimate criticism. I can't understand the mindset of 99% of humanity which has no interest in improving themselves, criticism etc.

Originally what attracted me to these sites was what seemed to be an elitism- higher standards, doing better than others. Over time I saw the "supremacy" was a thinly vieled form of weakness (more or less Marxism- a desire to live in a non competitive society).

I believe some of the points that I discovered may not be obvious and are seldom mentioned. Yet may be useful in constructing one's own philosophy.

*Nationalism- leads to stagnation. Nations must expand or contract through wars. This creates an environment of constat warfare (like the nation state period of Europe). It is more practical for communities to organize tribally and simply win and lose territory peacefully in the business field and so on. It leads to greater over all wealth for everyone, rather than bombing cities only to rebuild them.

* Racism is rather impractical because it is based on ancestry. A person is including people in their *ingroup* who are not racist, and often opposed to them. This alone is absolutely stupid. Likewise any moron, failure, defect etc. can be of the same race. What is the point? If you have basically no standards why be racist? I don't understand how skin color could be more important than intelligence or any other useful criteria.

*hate & antagonism- it accomplishes nothing. The true predator doesn't threaten, rather he strikes and kills. Meanwhile the weak losers try to have "tough" sounding names, threaten everyone and shout about their supremacy. This actually causes law enforcement to watch them, people to attack them etc. which leaves them worse than before. It seems like the total manifestation of stupidity. This is to such an extreme that I wonder if many internet racists are real people or rather people posting as a joke (I don't understand how people that stupid and careless could successfully put together a website or forum for instance). I suspect many of them are Jews posting as racists in order to justify another billion dollars to israel from the German government or another "tolerance" program in our schools.


And there are others. For me tribalism seems to be much more natural and logical. Essentially it would be Judaism, but applied to any other group which chooses it. A tribe is based on consensual membership. People choose to associate with the tribe. But a tribe can also set standards of who it accepts. Tribalism does not need a government or nation to protect its identity- they do it themselves via a diaspora if necessary. And so on.

It seems to me that internet nationalism actually harms white people by creating justification for more racist programs which discriminate against whites (affirmative action, white guilt programs etc.) so if these people are for real, they are their own worst enemy! I think anybody who hates whites should write all the internet nazis a thank you letter.
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#57510 - 07/24/11 10:20 PM Re: National Socialists [Re: Thule]
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I hope you see the joke here:

 Originally Posted By: Thule
*Racism is rather impractical because it is based on ancestry. A person is including people in their *ingroup* who are not racist, and often opposed to them. This alone is absolutely stupid. Likewise any moron, failure, defect etc. can be of the same race. What is the point? If you have basically no standards why be racist? I don't understand how skin color could be more important than intelligence or any other useful criteria.

AND

I suspect many of them are Jews posting as racists in order to justify another billion dollars to israel from the German government or another "tolerance" program in our schools.


It's quite funny really.

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#57519 - 07/25/11 12:40 AM Re: National Socialists [Re: Thule]
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‘how does hitler use black magic in triumph of the will? I'm interested in this.’

I received the above personal message from Thule in relation to Adolph Hitler.

To be honest I don’t know you all that well Thule and so I am reluctant to answer your question.

I know the old timers here, such as the Familiars and the Moderators and the other long terms guys, and they have my respect. They have the maturity and the perspective to understand these sorts of questions and the possible range of answers.

I don’t want to hand a loaded gun to anybody, who may not know how to handle loaded guns safely and properly (even though what I have to offer may not be a loaded gun at all) so I must decline your request.

You can buy and study this film yourself, if this area interests you.

I recently posted something here at the 600C which dealt with my particular thoughts on forces, black magic, systems of meaning, and historical events and individuals.

I rather regret posting those thoughts here now. They were really intended for those who have the maturity to regard them for what they are – thoughts, with a possible practical application for ethical ends only. They represent years of my thinking and experience and are not for messing around with at all.

The black magicians, I highly regard, are ethical individuals. They tend to stress control, pragmatism, responsibility, real world success and have a law and order focus and this is how it should be.

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#57523 - 07/25/11 07:59 AM Re: National Socialists [Re: Diavolo]
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I'd posit that Thule knows people think for themselves. He's highlighted some aspects that may or may not influence reform and revaluation of National Socialists. However, I see deeper concern gone into the predicted course of what he has highlighted so well, this thread, so far, is impressive.

It is around the affirmation of a lacking that ought to provoke action toward improvement.

We can see how impractical it was to follow the Nazi aesthetic of power for underprivileged young males. While we can observe a mirrored Judaic attitude moving through modern National Socialism, these underprivileged males are colouring racism with the Nazi rhetoric presented by almost 70 years of Judeo-Christian "education". Just as the state wants them to; controlled opposition.

We can observe Nazism as a first choice image rebellion in these times. Where is an actual adaptation of National Socialist ideology?

A nature core of base primitive ideals; the will to power, resounded with complete conviction, ad nauseam, firmly and loudly, until the reader feels what is behind the superficiality of words, in his own most inner instincts. Why would anything spoken from the heart, to the heart, need be anything but insight. Mein Kampf stems from the nature of the will to power, and so it is that which is to be regarded as evil by conventional morality. Of what is residual of despicableness abounds National Socialism these days is not itself, evilness, but a lacking of Nobility.

I am not a Nazi, I do not associate myself with the political shambles of controlled opposition on offer nor is their cause for an interest in what is passed off as democracy. I favour Nietzschean ideals and indo-European values, learning more about Germanic warrior ethos, Germanic Heathenry.

When I bought a copy of Mein Kampf, I relaxed at the Waterstones cafe' where there was quite a lavish variety in female presence, you know, different races, cultures, and so perfumes. I had refrained from giving in to the smell of fresh cream cakes, but the atmosphere was grabbing my attention enough to order a large coffee. I relaxed into the evening. Just before my departure; there, some quite stern gazes from various males, of differing racial credos; I drank the rest of my second coffee in spite of the intimate disgust; for the first to define himself suitable would surely ruin my pleasant evening by imposing a visit to the cells as consequence. Regardless I made my departure, if not for the sake of the book having become boring, for the sake of respect for public ignorance abounds a genuine interest in its study. I still haven't read the majority of the book for favouring Nietzsche and various research into lore in my evenings. Still, it was what I recognised beneath the evidently mundane intention of dead words, that gave rise to some degree of insight.

No matter what race somebody is, no matter what religion or credos, I have no time to merit attention to the negative and weak. Why? I have better to affirm, positive aims, college, appreciation for aesthetic and appreciation of the opposite sex, attaining fitness goals etc. When the will to power is realised as prime motivator, everything becomes less abstract, clear; there is no need to formalise things into abstraction beyond what is most intuitive of purpose; males would meet conclusion for inconveniencing me, regardless of superficial personals like race; they so eager to hear apologetic reprise. Likewise for so called neo-Nazi's whom lack will power and self discipline, preferring to "feel" powerful by naysaying other races, blacks, Arabs, Mexicans that aren't even to do with the design to deconstruct indo-European culture and values.

I can only affirm a life affirming way of life. I feel love as fury. The sovereign individuals Weltanschauung against the mundane accusations of all and every group focused enmity.
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#57524 - 07/25/11 08:12 AM Re: National Socialists [Re: Thule]
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In relation to National Socialism and aristocratic theory and Satanism holding more than connotations to such.

What is Noble?

If we are dumbed down to work with the ambiguous word "evil" and its negative and positive admixture of connotations, we must again ask, what is evil to a Satanist?

The connection between evil and "otherness". We could look at things like so:

Culture. Our beliefs. Good —— Nature. Otherness. Evil.

Obviously, outside of conventional morality, positive aspects of Nature. Otherness. Evil are assimilated into Culture. Our beliefs. Good.

But wheat is positive and what is detrimental?

Now, that Nature and Evil are seen as both the same frightening phenomena along with Otherness, that which is the unknown to us, we as individuals are the only ones, ourselves, that can confer what is despicable of evil and what is noble of evil. Master morality.

Culture. Beliefs. Good would not be restricted to conventional morality for a Satanist, but open to what his/her own Nature, from which his/her Master morality shall bestow value, and so Nature and Evil shall not be regarded as Otherness, but part of Culture. Beliefs. Good. The Master would confer honour to the despicable? Surely not. Although some might champion a king of petty liberties. What care do we for they but to crush them.

What is despicable? — Ineptitude, pettiness, you know, disgust inducing shit like the apathetic murder of children, that's pretty despicable and peasantry wouldn't you say? Noble? If so, how so? If you've slept through the indiscriminate pollution of the world by Judeo-Christianity, its source of hatred lies in fear of the natural and this is no more than a profound uneasiness to the presence of reality.

Would I be correct to posit that a maternal instinct is natural and that a masculine instinct to protect women and children would be Natural?

Would I be correct to posit that misogyny and child abuse are the despicableness of effeminate, peasantry males that Nature has turned her face from and forsaken?

Violence in any form repulses most. For a others, revenge is like pure cocaine. But you know, considering everything something does is it's will to power, there are those of us who are repulsed by a much to vulgar a display of power.

What is exemplary of strength and high-mindedness? What is Noble?
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#57531 - 07/25/11 10:25 AM Re: National Socialists [Re: Hegesias]
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When discussing Nationalism as an 'ism' one must first look at what a nation is. Quite simply, a nation is language, borders, and culture.

The current rise in Right Nationalism in the West is the direct result of a few very specific problems. Firstly, through Globalism, a lot of the opportunity, stability, and guarantees in the Social Contract are gone. Western workers are forced to compete with the denizens of the Third World in the global marketplace. Quite simply, a lot opportunity for Western workers is gone because the West has higher standards of pay, working conditions, safety, and environmental protection. This has caused a lot of resentment among Western workers.

To add insult to injury, a lot of trade and skilled labor jobs have been taken over by cheap, lower skilled, undocumented migrant workers. Employers are quick to hire these people because, from their POV, they do about the same job, complain less, don't go on strike, are cheaper, and do not demand good working conditions.

In many cases, the now unemployed Western worker is also forced to compete with these foreign invaders for various forms of social welfare. For generations, the Western worker and his kin have paid into and built this highly developed civilization and it's social safety net. Now, he must stand in line with the teaming masses of the worlds underclass just to see a doctor or get his unemployment check. These Third Worlders come with many children and have many more, putting further stress and strain on public resources that have never once paid into.

Historically, immigrants have made every effort to assimilate into the dominant culture. This is not longer the case. In the US, Hispanic immigrants continue to maintain close ties and allegiance with their mother country, and feel no need to learn the English language. Europe has a similar problem with Muslim immigrants, but to make matters worse, the Muslims are trying to instate Sharia Law into the European legal system. This problem is further compounded by a concerted effort by immigrant groups to actual out-breed the Western population on the order of 5:1 in some cases.

Now, to anyone who still doesn't understand what is causing the rise in Nationalism from the US, across Europe, and into Russia, I ask you, what part of this do you not understand?
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#57535 - 07/25/11 11:39 AM Re: National Socialists [Re: Fist]
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To add insult to injury, a lot of trade and skilled labor jobs have been taken over by cheap, lower skilled, undocumented migrant workers.


Why is it that the only people I ever see mentioning this are people who work jobs that are free from this problem? No migrant worker is taking the good, high paying jobs. I've done labor for years and if I really want to (and there is work to be done) I can easily get on a construction crew.

Perhaps if people were better at their jobs they wouldn't be so easily replaceable. I think it says more about the person who loses their job to someone who can't even speak English than it does about the person who "takes" the job.

And, in the end, isn't the real problem with the people who hire the undocumented workers rather than the workers themselves? If I am in dire need of cash I will take an "illegal" job over nothing at all.

Of course, one could always just go to school, get an education and obtain a job where they wont have to worry about such a thing. Even you, Fist, have a job where you don't have to worry about losing it to an illegal immigrant.

I do, however, agree with the rest of what you said.
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#57544 - 07/25/11 01:14 PM Re: National Socialists [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Perhaps if people were better at their jobs they wouldn't be so easily replaceable. I think it says more about the person who loses their job to someone who can't even speak English than it does about the person who "takes" the job.


Now I have both been in the position where Ive seen natives loose their job to cheap labour force and I have also been an immigrant working for shit money.

It has nothing to do with being easily replacable or how skilled one is at doing a certain job. A great example is the Polish people who come to more wealthy countries in Europe and work as carpenters and such. In Sweden they come for 6 month during the warm summer months. They share a house, reduce their living costs to nothing but is also paid alot less. They do not demand better pay and they do not demand better conditions since they know they make a shit load more in Sweden than they do in Poland. Then they go back to Poland for the winter and live on their earnings from Sweden. Smart? Yes, from their perspective. (Note: Swedes sometimes do the same but we go to Norway to work).

In England its more common that Polish people settle down but the same rings true there. They used to work for alot less money and had no demands on better working conditions (which english carpenters were used to). The interesting thing is that since the Polish people are now more integrated in England they have started to demand certain things because now they arent the cheap labour anymore. Other, new, immigrants have taken that role. They say this and admit to it themselves (I know I used to share a flat with a Polish guy whod been in England 10 - 15 years).

It has nothing to do with how skilled you are at what you do. It is all about companies cutting the costs on all levels. Of course Swedes or Englishmen will be pissed off when they have worked for certain rights, wages and working conditions and in a few years it is all overhauled because other people do not have the same demands. With free moveability within the EU this has actually become a major problem in certain areas of work.

Because everything is also less stable in regards to how long a person is employed and language difficulties the work and end result does tend to suffer. So to get it properly done people usually have to pay way more than they used to to hire a stable native company that knows what they do but also has to charge alot more for the same services.

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#57549 - 07/25/11 02:08 PM Re: National Socialists [Re: TheInsane]
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Hegesias: I have the same ideas as you. However I have read mein kampf. It is about the will to power and has some good sections. Most of it is boring though because it is poorly organized and jumps from subject to subject.

The problem here is that in the recent past the government, the owners of capital etc. in the west were socially responsible. they paid people good wages etc. Now they don't care and simply take advantage of people whenever they can and exploit people for personal gain.

Here's the problem- people should not depend on the nation to protect them. They should organize themselves in groups that are responsible and beneficial to them (this means being rooted in small scale communities). Precisely as Jews have always done, and have really excelled at in recent history.

Let's use a simple example:

The British Nationalist Party. They are a small minority, but want the entire nation to go to their ideas. They want to kick all the non-Brits out of the nation or something similar. They dream of this grand scheme where the whole world changes to suit their needs.

They know they can't succeed. Most of these people simply like to attach themselves to failed causes. It is a manifestation of a loser attitude.

By contrast a logical solution would be to create a "BNP" tribe. This means they accept only people who meet their criteria. Then they actively work to preserve their own people, their own interests etc. All of them can live quite well in some gated british community while the rest of the world goes to hell. There is no need to change the whole world when they can just change their own situation. Their race, culture etc. is all preserved BY THEMSELVES. Rather instead they want the government to protect them. They want the whole world to change. And to do this they threaten everyone else that doesn't agree with them.

They spend most of their time arguing with others and seem to take joy in being hated by everyone. It gives them some sense of importance I guess.

To me, this was the natural evolution of "nationalism" to take into "tribalism". Of course me myself I'm focused on results and bettering myself. I've come to the conclusion that the entire "WN" movement certainly is not about doing better or self improvement (or helping society etc.).

As posted above by Hegsias all those interests of Germanic warrior ethic etc. can be preserved in a tribal group that doesn't need to force itself on everyone else.

For example they can buy a business and pay each other high wages. Again without depending on the whole world to change to suit them. Instead the people can't do for themselves, because they are losers apparently.

I'm just amazed that it seems only everybody but whites are onto tribalism.

I have researched hundreds of Asian groups in the United States alone. They help Asians get jobs, they advocate for them, they build asian communities etc. Black people have similar programs NAACP, Jews certainly have it, every group does.

But I could not find NOT ONE such group for whites. I only found these retarded groups started by white neo-nazis.

The funny thing is the only thing I can conclude from these experiences is the total inferiority of whites?? It seems to be an odd reality.

Anyway that's basically one aspect of the group I'm always advocating. But the point of this thread is to simply point out *a better path* for those interested in ethnic preservation, European cultural ethnos etc.

It's rather a waste of energy to get caught up in the white nationalists circles.

It has taken me a long time to develop this whole thought system as well simply because it doesn't exist. For some odd reason you don't see it out there (at least not for European culture).
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#57567 - 07/25/11 11:57 PM Re: National Socialists [Re: Thule]
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What you have expressed can only be positive, saying yes to something independently formed rather than naysaying for everyone. Well, you said it best. I posted something about tribalism on the "Unification Left Path" or something thread, anyway, wolfpack ethos.

This conjecture was partly influenced by Satanists reactions to events of homicide and got me motivated to write about drives and what motivates the absurdity of our civilisation.

Unfortunately the following also explains how any of my social experiments would end in utter mayhem. Regardless I can offer my views for others to pick out the merit, if any, or if not only for reduction sake to think for themselves.

Satanist oftentimes scowl at words like "wolfpack ethos" they may even point and scream "herd mentality!". Sure I'm in the cult of the individual, but after decades of being that way, one realises no friends are here because one is a malignant Narcissist without the predilection to surround oneself with obsequious sycophants.

The Narcissist is an inverse god, sacrificing everything so that his idealisations should eventually satiate him, yet he is insatiable. The malignant Narcissist becomes to a distorted vision of the Nietzschean overman. Ones unconscious is ones conscious and so one is prone to act on innate drives. I'm simply attending college for personal trainer diploma level 3, I workout religiously, write music. Just an ordinary, mentally maladjusted, failure who is not really all that oblivious to his own condition anymore. \:\)

But hey, it depends on what you value in life, my partner in crime, she reflects quite the same modus disequilibrium. Before people jump to conclusions and point saying "how awful" take a look at yourselves.



Conjecture.

If we look at the animal kingdom we can observe ourselves correctly. Look at the way aristocracy works, its hierarchy. Wolves, lions, predators, like us; they work in packs and identify with their likeness, their females, their males— individuals fall in line working toward the same goals common to their nature, same species. Grey wolf, black wolf, white wolf, still wolf. Only other species are targeted for prey. Same species predators sometimes, by accident, kill one another out of necessity, but they never seek out to do this on purpose, unless, in rare situations of overcrowding and food scarcity.

In a similar way a malignant Narcissist is just a force of Nature with a very limited range of emotions. I know because I am one. I operate on an emotional level of an animal with two primary motivating emotions "fear and rage" this is not to say there is anything meek about my reactions as pre emptive is always the vanguard. The Narcissist does not deliberately cause the emotional upset around him. He is a force of Nature; just what it is, it can't help what it is. It does what it does, it is cruel. Society's source of hatred is against Nature, and this is no more than uneasiness in the presence of reality.

We make ourselves look and act a certain way to fit in with a group. Other humans will make themselves look and act another way that differentiates them from the other group. I'd posit that this, unconsciously, cultivates our natures necessity of predation. But, of this, we "hunt" our own species? Absurdity.

We have the absurd anomaly about our consciousness that enables us to "trick" ourselves into sighting "prey" in our own kind. Because of equality pathos and peace and love for all and every being imposed from the minute we are born, this creates unnatural pretence, suppressed natures go unseen and evidently emerge.

The "identifiability" of otherness, of socio anarchy, causes us to act pre emptively to "identifiable" threats or likewise "prey".
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#57576 - 07/26/11 12:48 PM Re: National Socialists [Re: Hegesias]
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Merit stands on its own two feet. Nazi's are the epic of fail.
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#57580 - 07/26/11 01:25 PM Re: National Socialists [Re: Zach_Black]
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That is sort of a contradiction. In some ways Nazis were extremely successful. The average racist of today certainly could not take over a nation and conquer most of Europe. Yet in the end they bit off more than they could chew. To try and to fail seems more admirable to me than someone too cowardly to attempt anything. Failure does not mean weakness, only defeated by a stronger opponent.

Yet at the same time I think about these people who cling to Nazi beliefs which seems odd they cling so much to a totally failed and defeated institution. So I guess you are right in that respect.

Heg: Firstly admitting your inferiority is the first step to any true progress. Secondly people often call me narcissistic even though I'm not. I am one of the most group oriented, socially responsible people in society. It's just that I have self confidence and see many people as inferior. Because they don't like people who seem stronger or more confident than them, as a matter of will to power, people will call the others "selfish" and "narcissistic" in reality many of the Christians, bleeding heart liberals etc. are the most selfish people. They simply try to appear caring on the outside for their own selfish gain and really don't care about how their actions harms the society around them. They simply like to maintain this feeling of a non-competitive world, meanwhile consuming every resource they can with little regard for the collective well being.

Anyone who really cared about others would promote a competitive spirit and culture of supremacy. this would then strengthen the collective's achievement. But since most people feel weak and like they can't compete they have to crawl in this illusion of "altruism" its not real altruism.

Just because i'm disgusted by someone else's stupidity or lack of character doesn't make me self centered.

So when people say they are narcissistic I wonder if they truly are or if they are simply the kind of person that offends the sheep.

Of course I openly claim to look out for my self interests. This probably makes me more altruistic than all the people claiming to help others, but in reality taking what they can when no one is looking, stabbing people in the back while wearing a smile etc.



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#57583 - 07/26/11 02:31 PM Re: National Socialists [Re: Thule]
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You get the joke, how refreshing. Back into the fucking cave of illusions to free the prisoners there. \:\)

Now as to National Socialist Germany being a failure, I can't see how being defeated by the odds whilst giving 100% is a failure. The National Socialist meme succeeded every other meme in Europe at that time. Even after being handed the last remaining dregs from the free for all Versailles goody bag.

What we have in abundance today is not ideological National Socialism but illiterate Nazism, a bastardised controlled opposition created by 70 years of media education and academia cloaking Judeo-Christian morality in a white lab coat. Underprivileged and frustrated young men flock to Nazism.

National Socialist Germany had Black, Asian and Arab soldiers, and so non-Germans fought under the Swastika, all troops were treated the same as any other soldier, the privates slept and ate in the same barracks as the generals, this was to create a genuine bond between the men. Quite unlike the barracks situation in America.

The Judeo religious supremacy was the enemy and that ideology included racism against all whom were not Jewish, the term Jewish being ambiguous as to race or religion, it is unclear and serves the ideology further. The National Socialist propaganda was a direct attack at the racial supremacy found in the Talmud. A basic tenet of Satanism; the images and ideology of a particular ethos is used against itself.


A different ideology is impositioning today. Multiculturalism is not about African, Chinese, Arab or Jewish folks etc. those folk were always here after the war with no problems, just people in the street getting on with their lives as individuals. We know what multiculturalism is a vehicle for.

The old National Socialist image is defunct and carries too many negative connotations in current society. Bring the indo-European culture to the forefront and assert values rather than flock to what is subverted and ambiguous imagery.

@Thule. I appreciate your ideal of actualising a tribal community of like minded individuals recognising the same indo-European culture and values. Rather than being negative to other cultures.


I can see something way suspect in politics. Why do Nationalist representatives never ever raise indo-European values in conferences, instead they sit there sheepishly letting all manner of mundane accusations about racism come from all sides. Looks deliberate to me, unless they actually feel its all about racism?

I could be considered "racialist" which is very a different thing than "racism". I could immediately express aesthetic value for aspects I recognise as unique to different races. People may not consider weight training to be related to aestheticism but to me it is, like a sculptor of a Noble statue, sculpting ones own body, a healthy somatic Narcissism. Racialism is related to Aestheticism and not some kind of race hypochondria. The aesthetic of different races of women is part of the aesthetic of culture and nature together, as one of the most valued aspects in my life, I love women, I idealise women, of all races, the callipygian figure, I simply favour porcelain complexion, massive jet-black hair and dark eyes. That does not mean I am racist, I just don't favour blondes. \:\)
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#57585 - 07/26/11 03:23 PM Re: National Socialists [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias
National Socialist Germany had Black, Asian and Arab soldiers, and so non-Germans fought under the Swastika, all troops were treated the same as any other soldier, the privates slept and ate in the same barracks as the generals, this was to create a genuine bond between the men. Quite unlike the barracks situation in America.


Actually this is not completely true. While it is true they had different nationalities and "races" joining their forces, the acceptance and tolerance of them was based upon pure practicality while they were still considered inferior races. The Muslims, as an example, had to be convinced by bending the truth slightly and upholding the idea their race wasn't considered inferior.

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#57586 - 07/26/11 03:30 PM Re: National Socialists [Re: Diavolo]
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Something like this? The persecution of fat guys in the army is worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OZS6wem7OQ
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