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#58353 - 08/20/11 01:37 AM Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies
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At least, according to NewYorkMagazine.com, as of a few years ago:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/12/list_antireligious_movies.html

“Although he made what many still consider to be the quintessential Jesus movie (The Gospel According to St. Matthew, 1964), Italian Marxist homosexual poet Pier Paolo Pasolini was no fan of religious dogma, and his sex-drenched, free-form adaptation of Geoffrey Chaucer’s poem (The Canterbury Tales [1972]) constantly thumbs its nose at the falsely pious.”

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#58354 - 08/20/11 01:59 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Tesseract]
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10. Carrie (1976)
9. Priest (1995)
8. Footloose (1984)
7. Dogma (1999)
6. Jesus Camp (2006)
5. The Name of the Rose (1986)
4. The Magdalene Sisters (2002)
3. The Boys of St. Vincent (1993)
2. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (1983)
1. The Canterbury Tales (1972)

Wow, what a crock of shit. I've not even seen half the list. What about the "horror/scarey" movies they forgot? OMEN (I,II,III,IV,V) those movies were about the Anticrist coming back and taking over the world. What about Lost Souls (2000) when the Attorney turns into the Antichrist on his 33rd Birthday? Dark habits (1984) where a nightclub singer seeks refuge with gay nuns on dope in a Madrid convent?!? Or the Ninth Gate (1999) where a rare book dealer, while seeking out the last two copies of a demon text, gets drawn into a conspiracy with supernatural overtones.

I can go on ad nauseum...

The list is / was a joke and can not be taken seriously.
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#58359 - 08/20/11 03:00 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Wicked Satanist]
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This list is complete bullshit (and I've only seen a few movies on the list myself, so I'm only going to give my very brief ideas on those I've seen).

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10. Carrie (1976)


Really? Carrie wasn't anti-Christian in the least. The mother was a nut who had an unhealthy obsession with Jesus and the Bible. (Wait...doesn't that sound a little bit like the person who wrote the list?)

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7. Dogma (1999)


I loved this one. This is a bit off topic, but I remember the director Kevin Smith talking about how he picketed his own movie with the posted: "Dogma is Dogshit". \:D Apparently he was expecting a huge crowd and only about ten or fifteen people showed up.

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6. Jesus Camp (2006)


I remember seeing this one a while back. It was, at least in my opinion nothing more than a documentary. The behavior of the Christian fanatics, if anything, is what was "anti-Christian" - not the movie itself.

The person who wrote this list really needs a sense of humor.


Edited by Alex Crowley (08/20/11 03:01 AM)
Edit Reason: Corrected a typo.

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#58362 - 08/20/11 04:36 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Tesseract]
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It’s all subjective, of course, and pretty frivolous, but initiating one’s comments with “I've not even seen half the list.” or “This list is complete bullshit (and I've only seen a few movies on the list myself, so I'm only going to give my very brief ideas on those I've seen).” doesn’t tend to shore up one’s assessments of the films offered.

I believe there’s a difference between “anti-christian” and “pro-evil/Satan”. A movie can have absolutely nothing to do with horror and devil fantasies, and yet be immensely critical and condemning of christianity, or any other given religion.

I fail to see how this article can be read as much other than tongue in cheek, and perhaps it’s someone other than the author who “really needs a sense of humor.” I take the piece as an examination of mostly mainstream films that presented pop culture movie goers with overtly anti-christian / anti-religion plots and themes. I fail to see how anyone paying attention could describe “Carrie” as not at all anti-christian: the mother was clearly presented as an unbalanced, violent christian fanatic, while the protagonist/anti-hero rejects her mother’s christianity and user her “telekinetic” powers to kill many undoubtedly x-ian antagonists, refusing to “turn the other cheek” or “love her enemies.”

Sure, there are some clunkers on that list (“Dogma”, “Footloose”), when viewed from a strictly “cinematic” perspective, but still, all I’ve seen from the list offered clearly anti-christian themes, and offensively religious characters, without turning to obvious, cheesy horror cliches.

I actually have the first three “Omen” films in my Netflix queue, and while I’ve seen none of them since a kid, if anything, The Omen(s) can be argued as being greatly PRO-christian, in that the film(s) present and reinforce christian mythology of Antichrist, and if I recall correctly, ultimately evil is defeated, and Antichrist squelched (but again, it’s been literally decades since I’ve seen them).

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#58372 - 08/20/11 12:35 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Tesseract]
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They missed the all-time champion anti-Christianity movie, 1971's The Devils.

Now if someone would just film Tales from the Leather Nun ...
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#58385 - 08/20/11 06:04 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Wicked Satanist]
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It's rather difficult to judge what constitutes an "anti-religious" movie, since the majority of fantasy, sci-fi, horror, etc, present depictions of the world that don't match a rigidly Christian view of the world. And we can also add most history and natural science documentaries to that list, too. And what about "Religilous"?

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Or the Ninth Gate (1999) where a rare book dealer, while seeking out the last two copies of a demon text, gets drawn into a conspiracy with supernatural overtones.


I have a particular love of this movie for its atmospheric subtlety, moral ambiguity and hermetic motifs.

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Now if someone would just film Tales from the Leather Nun ...



Sacred Flesh is a rather notorious nunsploitation film, that has actually gotten a large mainstream following.


Edited by The Zebu (08/20/11 06:05 PM)
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#58521 - 08/23/11 03:34 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: The Zebu]
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the church 1989
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#58522 - 08/23/11 03:40 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: ASHMEDAI]
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oh and any Disney Movie
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#58526 - 08/23/11 03:59 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: ASHMEDAI]
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Marjoe (1972) provided insights into the showbusiness of evangelical Christianity.
Fellini's Roma (1972) included an over-the-top ecclesiastical fashion show.
Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple (PBS Frontline) showed an ostensibly Christian preacher become a suicidal cult leader.
Bedazzeled (1967) portrayed the Christian God as an egotistical tyrant.
Dahmer (2002) includes a scene where the actor playing Jeffrey Dahmer mocks a young man for wearing a necklace that has with an instrument of execution dangling from it--a Christian crucifix.
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#58528 - 08/23/11 04:33 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: dust-e sheytoon]
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dogma is just great fun stickin it to catholic church, religion should be fun people spend to much time on the negative what feckin god can do for me- help yir self feck the rest
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#58529 - 08/23/11 04:38 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: ASHMEDAI]
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#58530 - 08/23/11 04:45 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: ASHMEDAI]
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and i almost forgot "prince of darkness" secrets and lies
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#58531 - 08/23/11 05:00 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: ASHMEDAI]
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"The Arrivals" (2009) pro-Muslim propaganda series has an anti-Christian message according to this article: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108483

An Iranian rapper tried to get me interested in "The Arrivals,"but it reminded me too much of Western brainwashing New Age material to keep my interest, plus I've already seen a lot of conspiracy videos.
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#58532 - 08/23/11 05:07 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: dust-e sheytoon]
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i cant bring my self to to watch any pro anything movies
i feel if you enjoy something just go with it Muslim, Christian, pagan, we all live under one sun or moon
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#58533 - 08/23/11 05:52 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: ASHMEDAI]
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 Originally Posted By: ASHMEDAI
i cant bring my self to to watch any pro anything movies
i feel if you enjoy something just go with it Muslim, Christian, pagan, we all live under one sun or moon


I enjoy watching some Shia Muslim videos because I like the mosque architecture, the Persian typography and some of the soundtracks are great! But when I read translations of what they are saying, I find it mostly boring or annoying. I don't go for the whole submission thing at all! Shariah law sucks. They have far fewer libertes.
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#58535 - 08/23/11 07:42 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: dust-e sheytoon]
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Well if you will allow music movies which technically aren't documentaries but might belong to another category I have one that is hard to top. Just read the part of the article about the show. I waited 3 years for the dvd to be released and boy was it amazing! And filmed in the popes home town no less!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgoroth#Controversy_in_Krak.C3.B3w_.282004.29

Can't beat Gaahl is pretty much a huge supporter of the dark one.


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#58537 - 08/24/11 12:11 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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 Originally Posted By: Michael A.Aquino
They missed the all-time champion anti-Christianity movie, 1971's The Devils.


I haven't seen that, and I've hesitated to buy the DVD. A number of reviews I've read suggest that it's not a very high-quality disc. I do, however, have the DVD of Krzysztof Penderecki's opera The Devils of Loudun.

One interesting recent anti-Christian movie is Agora, starring Rachel Weisz as Hypatia of Alexandria. The movie dramatizes the violent religious conflicts among Pagans, Christians and Jews in Roman Egypt in late Antiquity. The movie illustrates the ways in which the rise of Christianity depended on the power of the Dominate, and draws a fairly unsubtle parallel between Christianity then and Islamism today. Hypatia herself represents the dying light of Classical philosophy. Not a great movie, but pretty good.
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#58538 - 08/24/11 01:08 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Goliath]
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 Originally Posted By: Goliath
One interesting recent anti-Christian movie is Agora, starring Rachel Weisz as Hypatia of Alexandria. The movie dramatizes the violent religious conflicts among Pagans, Christians and Jews in Roman Egypt in late Antiquity. The movie illustrates the ways in which the rise of Christianity depended on the power of the Dominate, and draws a fairly unsubtle parallel between Christianity then and Islamism today. Hypatia herself represents the dying light of Classical philosophy. Not a great movie, but pretty good.

This is a superb book on Hypatia and the social/cultural forces in Alexandria which led to her infamous murder.

The film you mention recently made the rounds on television, and I thought it a bit ponderous and confusing. Somewhat annoyed at the apparent willingness of the principals to "meet their fate", or so I recall.

As a brief aside, I thought Rachel Weisz was absolutely delightful in Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, one of my all-time favorite flicks.

You can see some clips from The Devils on YouTube, to get the general idea. I came out of the theater after seeing that film about as stunned as when I saw Penthouse's Caligula (which I had expected just to be another swords-&-sandals movie).

There are some films which really chew you up and spit you out, such as Far From the Madding Crowd, The Lion in Winter, and Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? ...
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#58568 - 08/24/11 05:04 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Lady Gaga rejects Christ in favor of Judah, in this high-production quality film short/music video. (If movies are motion pictures, and motion pictures can include shorts, I'm hoping this is still on topic.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc
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#58569 - 08/24/11 05:29 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: dust-e sheytoon]
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*Judas, not Judah
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#58575 - 08/24/11 08:08 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Thanx to Goliath for alerting me that I got my Rachels mixed up: it was R. Ward in DMDWP. I was impressed with R. Weisz' comic talents in The Mummy & The Mummy Returns. [She does a mean dagger fight too.]
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#58597 - 08/25/11 12:04 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Quick reply:

Well, Dr. Aquino is correct, The Devils is probably the best antichristian movie.

As to The Canterbury Tales, oh my, it's such an incomprehensible mess. Pasolini is a good director, but he's in dire need of a proper screenplay.

Oh, and I hate Agora. That's a movie that did pretty much everything wrong. When it comes to historical dramas it's always what you emphasize counts, and Agora emphasized only the wrong things, while ignoring the proper ones.

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#58843 - 09/04/11 03:28 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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I am sure people not of my generation will laugh but I'd say Conan the Barbarian (only first movie).

Nihilism when Conan's future is destroyed, he goes under, he is enslaved... the Overman rises. Conan is a good allegorical translation of Nietzsche's Overman, the personification of the “will to power”.

Regarding “the riddle of steel” in the movie. [To his comrade, when discussing who's god is stronger] Conan says: If I die, I have to go before him, and he will ask me, “What is the riddle of steel?” And if I don't know it he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me! That's Crom, strong in his mountain!”

Through the story we see Conan is not consciously aware of what the riddle's words mean but he exemplifies, embodies its meaning throughout. Thulsa Doom “enlightens” Conan to its meaning in brutal fashion repeatedly through Conan's life. Ordeals that make Conan into what he is, the personification of the will to power.

The will to power is in his living human flesh, primeval vitality. Self-discipline and vow of personal revenge. Steel itself is nothing; the sword itself is not powerful; its power comes from the mastered will that directs it.

Take this not so obvious final words from Thulsa Doom [to Conan]: You have come to me, my child. Who is your father if it is not me? Who gave you the will to live? I am the wellspring from which you flow—when I am gone, you will never have been. What will your world be without me?

Conan takes a deep look of realisation and decapitates Thulsa Doom.

I tried to make this short. I still like the movie lol
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#58845 - 09/04/11 03:51 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Hegesias]
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 Originally Posted By: Hegesias
Take this not so obvious final words from Thulsa Doom [to Conan]: "You have come to me, my child. Who is your father if it is not me? Who gave you the will to live? I am the wellspring from which you flow—when I am gone, you will never have been. What will your world be without me?" Conan takes a deep look of realisation and decapitates Thulsa Doom.

In other words, Conan the Barbarian is a film version of this song.
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#58850 - 09/05/11 01:28 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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It’s been only in the past decade or so that I finally started to gain an appreciation for Johnny Cash and his music. Before then I just considered him some celebrity country-western singer that had no relevance to my life, or musical tastes. Even back in the 90s a friend made a copy for me of the first American Recordings release, and while I gave the tape a few listens it just didn’t click for me then.

In the past several years I’ve purchased all the American Recordings titles, plus a couple of compilation CDs. Even his outright gospel songs are tolerable on occasion, owing to the apparent sincerity of Cash’s performances. The film “Walk the Line” is enjoyable enough, providing a glimpse into some of the dramatized, pivotal events in Cash’s life.

It’s unfortunate he died prematurely -- particularly since Cash’s early demise seems to have been the result of numerous misdiagnoses of relatively treatable and survivable ailments.

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#62506 - 12/10/11 08:16 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Tesseract]
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What about a film which explores the Dark Side through our own sexuality? Imagine the implications of a snake-handling preacher, who studied Gnostic theology. He began his journey believing in a non-corporeal Christ as the epitome of the light and ended up at the mercy of a dominatrix, whose unorthodox form of initiation proved to be instrumental in bringing about his discovery of the hidden sun in the Land of the Dead. Check out my website at http://www.lefthandgnostic.com in which you will see a video promo of an act of Sadean debauchery as a magickal means of cultivating the True Will. Without a doubt, " Forbidden Doors " is a woman's darkest fantasy and a man's ultimate nightmare for he cannot escape the trammels of nature due to her sorcery.
I honestly feel that " Forbidden Doors " is the most powerful screenplay ever written and that if it is made into a film, it will herald the coming of the Anti-Christ.

Respectfully, Frank Ashby
 Originally Posted By: Tesseract
At least, according to NewYorkMagazine.com, as of a few years ago:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/12/list_antireligious_movies.html

“Although he made what many still consider to be the quintessential Jesus movie (The Gospel According to St. Matthew, 1964), Italian Marxist homosexual poet Pier Paolo Pasolini was no fan of religious dogma, and his sex-drenched, free-form adaptation of Geoffrey Chaucer’s poem (The Canterbury Tales [1972]) constantly thumbs its nose at the falsely pious.”

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#62635 - 12/14/11 05:32 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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 Originally Posted By: Aquino
As a brief aside, I thought Rachel Weisz was absolutely delightful in Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, one of my all-time favorite flicks.

I was thinking Rachel Weisz is younger than me and would have been about 12 when Dead men Don't Wear Plaid came out. You meant Rachel Ward, but, no matter, still a fun flick!

I've never seen The Devil's before... looks interesting. In that one scene you linked Jeebus looks like Ron Jeremy + Jon Lovitz's love child :0)

On topic, I thought Wes Craven (with a little help from Borgnine) was pretty successful in jabbing at puritanism in his 1981 film Deadly Blessing.

I wonder if Borgnine was sympathetic to Scratch at some point... he certainly could project the aura.
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#62639 - 12/14/11 06:27 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Fnord]
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1. The Devils Rain
2. Rosemary's baby
3.The Devils Advocate
4. Bram stokers Dracula
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#62644 - 12/14/11 10:04 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Zach_Black]
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One movie I want to mention that is not as well known but definitely touches on Satanism is the movie "Crazy As Hell". It was released in 2002, but only in NYC and LA, explaining why its less renown. The screenplay and script are spectacular. To summarize, a psychiatrist is sent to a state mental ward with a project to apply his well known tactics that he claims are even better than medicine- and his tenure there is recorded by an onsite team of camera men. One patient he eventually meets (played by Eriq La Salle, who also directed) calls himself Satan. He gives very cunning and craft answers to the questions the psychiatrist asks him, reminding the doctor of his siginficance and authority as the god of this world. He stirs turmoil in the hospital while practicing his spiritual powers, pissing the doctor off and causing him to lose his cool. It shows as the doctor himself loses his sanity- especially after the character La Salle convinces a patient to jump off a building and kill herself. The tone of the movie shows a battle of good versus evil, holy versus wicked, and self-righteousness versus feeding of ones ego. I would reccomend this movie to anyone who dabbles in the Dark Arts- or anyone who I think would enjoy doing so. Definitely one of the best movies I've seen. The tone, pace, and suspense of the movie is very similar to The Devils Advocate. In fact, I'm about to go rent it on iTunes and watch it again right now! ;\)
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#62648 - 12/15/11 02:28 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: LeftHandonFeet]
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 Originally Posted By: LeftHandonFeet
One movie I want to mention that is not as well known but definitely touches on Satanism is the movie "Crazy As Hell".


Thanks for recommending this one! I'll keep an eye out for it. It seems interesting enough.

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#62650 - 12/15/11 03:42 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Alex Crowley]
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For me, the perfect anti-Christian film is, and always will be, "The Wicker Man"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wicker_Man_(1973_film)

A sanctimonious, Christan policeman is called to a remote Scottish island to investigate the disappearance of a young girl and finds paganism alive and well there. Assuming the locals have assigned the child as a human sacrifice, the copper manages to offend just about everyone and have a thoroughly miserable time amongst the drinking, dancing and debauchery. He remains blissfully unaware that he is in very real danger until the end of the film, as he dismisses the folk's beliefs and practices as superstition.

Initially, viewers in 1973 were astonished and perplexed by the last scene but it has become a cult classic, especially amongst people who dislike sanctimonious Christians. ;\)

I attended a "Singalonga-Wicker-Man" screening last year where the audience joined in with favourite lines, bawdy songs and the eating of (jelly) toads - what an excellent night! \:\)
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#62671 - 12/15/11 09:38 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: felixgarnet]
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I just ordered 'A Serbian Film' uncut with English subs. I watched this film upon its release and the opening scene was by far the best scene in the film due to the quite real depiction of D/s psychology - the rest of the movie kind of failed to live up to the expectations I had, but the atmosphere of the film kept me watching whereas I usually can't sit through a movie at all.
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#62703 - 12/17/11 03:38 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Hegesias]
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I don't believe in Jesus or Christianity, but I do believe in Sarah Silverman. Here are some really cool anti-Christian clips by Sarah Silverman.

Sarah Silverman Wants Toys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=3gRGMOhslq0

Jesus was Gay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbTYaG0GO4w&feature=related

When God Gives Aids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JK8u-2yKlA

I Would Kill Jesus Again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSrhJGGDqx0&feature=related

Enjoy!!!!!


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#62740 - 12/18/11 07:27 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Sorcerer]
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Okay Sorcerer asshole, you got banned here twice before under other names.
You still haven't learned how to post properly, or edit posts. You are at this point spamming the board with short messages that have no real meaning or value to this thread. I am deleting the last three of the posts here in this thread.

Fucking learn to read already, or you will be gone again.

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#62762 - 12/19/11 07:22 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Tesseract]
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I thought I would mention Wise Blood, directed by John Huston. This film came out in 1979 or 1980 and it was based on a novel by O’Connor.

This is a really good anti-Christian film. It is a bizarre film, a sort of tragic farce with these warts and all characters who make me feel sick at times.

All of the so called Christians in this film are phonies, con artists, and sexually promiscuous for one reason or another.

The main star in this film is a young man who comes home from war and becomes a religious preacher of a religion without religion, of a Church without Jesus Christ.

The young main character rejects the conventions of Christianity such as original sin, guilt, subservience etc.

The young main character’s (anti) religious vision is copied and corrupted to some extent by a conman posing as an Christian evangelist, who sells membership in his own Church of Jesus Christ without Jesus for one dollar to make a few bucks.

The young main character offers free membership in his anti-religious Church as it is not a con in any way. It is a sincere vision.

A bizarre and obscure film, well worth watching - the young man's commitment to his (anti) religious vision leads him to violence and it seems to all go downhill for him from that point on.

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#62763 - 12/19/11 08:44 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Octavian]
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WISE BLOOD is a very bizarre and obscure film. I'm surprised you know of it.

I watched it one night in the Black House with LaVey ad several of the other people there that night. It was one of his favorite films.
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#62764 - 12/19/11 09:32 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Jake999]
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Yes Jake, I found out about this film Wise Blood through SLOAS by Barton, along with a few other good ones which I thought were worth watching.

I went out movie shopping a week ago and found it. I have a list of films in the back of my mind when I go out looking for a movie to buy.

Usually I don’t find many of the ones I am really after, but I saw one copy of Wise Blood on the shelf and I grabbed it.

There is a bit happening in that movie - a lot of thought provoking stuff behind the bizarre and funny.

I am laughing right now thinking about the young Emery stealing the shrunken man to give to Motes a “prophet” and then Motes growing enraged and destroying the shrunken man.

Then there is Emery stealing the gorilla suit and running around town and scaring the hell out of the old folks.

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#62795 - 12/21/11 08:52 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Octavian]
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Clockwork Orange with a Rudimentary Peni soundtrack.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_TXowPUpmI

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#62905 - 12/24/11 03:23 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: rites]
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Not a coincidence someone mentioned "Clockwork Orange" - I almost made mention of that movie. I will make mention of another iconic movie that was anti-xtian that has a similar placement and tone as "Clockwork Orange"... "The Wall", based on the 1979 Pink Floyd album with the same name. The metaphorical imagery clearly displayed opposition to principles and ideas that are xtian, such as conformity and alienation.
Let me fast forward to 1994 when a Tales From the Crypt movie grabbed my attention- its forever one of my favorite horror movies. "Demon Knight"... it mocks the "power" of the blood of Jesus in its on creative manner.
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#62917 - 12/24/11 08:44 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: LeftHandonFeet]
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned The Antichrist since it's so obviously...anti-Christian ;\) That, and 120 Days in Sodom. However I know both of those movies are probably anti-Christian in a very superficial, non-philosophical way.
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#63483 - 01/09/12 03:01 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Cassandra]
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 Originally Posted By: Cassandra
I'm surprised no one has mentioned The Antichrist since it's so obviously...anti-Christian ;\) That, and 120 Days in Sodom. However I know both of those movies are probably anti-Christian in a very superficial, non-philosophical way.


Do you mean the Lars von Trier film “Antichrist?” If so, it was only a couple of months ago that one worked its way up to the top of my Netflix queue, and while it didn’t strike me as specifically anti-christianity, I certainly recommend the picture as generally interesting and memorable. And on top of that, the line “Nature is Satan’s church,” is definitely captivating.

Pasolini’s “Salò” is also an excellent choice, in all its personal, gritty, 1970’s depravity.

A classic Coil track:

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#63488 - 01/09/12 10:14 AM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Tesseract]
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Death Wish (1974)
Paul Kersey/Bronson is a man that certainly has no interest in "turning the other cheek."

A Shock To The System (1990)
Michael Caine stars in this very underrated film about a mild mannered man who decides to murder his way up the corporate ladder. The film's end, which I don't think I'll give away, has one of the better anti-Christian pay offs in film history.

Frankenstein (1931) and Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
Two films about men who make themselves into gods by usurping the power of the gods to create life of their own.
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#63493 - 01/09/12 02:01 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Merkwürdigliebe5]
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The most anti-Christian movie I've seen during the last years was Valhalla Rising.

The group of Christian crusaders One-eye joins start their great quest filled with delusions but slowly degenerate into the lowest forms of humanity.
During this trip-scene, you see the Christians lose control and turn into what they really are while the barbarian hardly changes because he never acted different then what he was.

It's pretty to watch.

And no, it is no action movie, most of the movie is as slow as this scene, if not slower.

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#63495 - 01/09/12 04:53 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Diavolo]
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Refn is a damn good director. I saw both "Valhalla Rising" and "Bronson" this year and was blown away by both films. Definitely don't go into "Valhalla Rising" expecting a mindless action film; it's very much a character driven drama film.

The most anti-christian film I've probably seen in awhile was "Fall from Grace." A documentary about the good, Christian Westboro Baptist Church.

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#63497 - 01/09/12 05:06 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Shea]
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Reviewing this thread has made me want to post my own list, in no particular order:

=> Hellraiser
=> Fight Club
=> The Ninth Gate
=> Red State

Hmmm, the list could be much larger, and more subtle; but these are really good ones I've watched recently.

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#78702 - 07/26/13 03:20 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: dust-e sheytoon]
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Some Good Films to check out:
1.Agora
2.Blade Runner
3.Bedazzled -1968/2000
4.Cool Hand Luke
5.Crimes and Misdemeanors
6.The Devils
7.The Devil's Advocate
8.Hannah and Her Sisters
9.The Last Temptation of Christ
10.Simon of the Desert (personal favorite)
11.Tommy
12.Viridiana (another favorite)
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#86129 - 03/30/14 12:46 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: Lucius3O9]
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The Nun, 2005
Little Witches, 1996
Dogma, 1999
Stigmata, 1999
The Last Temptation of Christ, 1988
The Exorcism of Emily Rose, 2005
Red State, 2011
The Crucible, 1996
Hellraiser, 1987
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#86336 - 04/07/14 01:21 PM Re: Ten Most Anti-Christian Movies [Re: SIN3]
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I would argue for Stalker (1979) is the perfect one. On the surface it has nothing to do with religion, but indirectly in does.

It is Russian, so we know how depressing it is already. It is slow moving, so if you like Star Wars, you'll probably hate this if you come in expecting as much.

Spoilers:

The plot revolves around the Zone, a place where it is said wishes come true. The military protects it. Some think they protect the Wishgranter, while others believe it is the sight of a chemical spill (It was actually filmed on location at an abandoned chemical plant for this very reason and most people in the movie, including the director, shortly after died from exposure).

There are 3 characters in the movie. The first is like a priest leading people to what he believes is salvation, he leads people to the zone and then he takes them back. The second is the Atheist, who doesn't believe one way or the other. The third is a Atheist who knows the wishgranter is a story and wishes to destroy it (Like some wish to destroy Christianity).

At the end, the one who wishes to destroy the wishgranter is found out and the believer is utterly devastated he wants to do this. The Zone, like a religion, is the only thing keeping him alive, giving him a reason to live. Then, the Atheist who wants to destroy it, sees its purpose and no longer wants to destroy it out of pity.

The movie is so well done. The events in it can be interpreted as divine or naturally occurring, depending on your orientation. I argue it is Satanist in the sense that modern Satanism is really Atheism, for the most part.

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