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#5899 - 03/18/08 11:56 PM 3-17-08
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#5903 - 03/19/08 12:17 AM Re: 3-17-08 [Re: xear]
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I like that. Reminds me of a Manson song...
What if I said: "The Satanic Bible is the factory... The product is You..."

Would this be true or false?
Are we a product of a book... of another man... or did we see our own thought inside that book?
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#6250 - 03/23/08 12:03 PM Re: 3-17-08 [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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 Quote:
I like that. Reminds me of a Manson song...
What if I said: "The Satanic Bible is the factory... The product is You..."

Would this be true or false?
Are we a product of a book... of another man... or did we see our own thought inside that book?



You may be mistaken, if you said that.
My reason for believing this, is that the S.B encourages "thought" and examination, instead of merely telling one what to think. In the back of the book, there are references to other material, and in many of those books there are more references to others.
In commercialism, one very rarely is encouraged to try other "products," to see which one works for them. That is the big difference in being "manufactured," and being taught and encoraged to learn for oneself.

Granted, the S.B is from the mind of one person, which in turn is a combination of ideas which the author himself has absorbed from others.

It's been a few years since I have read the S.B, but if I am not mistaken, there is a part in the book which states, that if a person embraces an idea or a philosophy, they would be wise to test that idea in the real world, and if it doesn't work for them, to disgard it, and look for something else. Again, I'm not sure that is where I read it.

So, the Satanic Bible, in my opinion, is not the factory, but more like the KEY to the factory.
However, it is up to the individual if they use that key to open the door, and walk outside and escape, or use the same key to lock themselves in the factory.

The ones that use the key to open the door, and walk outside, are the ones who read the S.B, and continue to study and learn from different sources, and most of all, experience life and the real world for themselves.

The ones that use the KEY to lock themselves in, are the ones who read the S.B, and study it so hard, that they do not consider anything else. In which case, they do become the product of the factory, and will lose the ability to think for themselves.
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#6681 - 03/29/08 11:29 PM Re: 3-17-08 [Re: Asmedious]
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 Originally Posted By: Asmedious

So, the Satanic Bible, in my opinion, is not the factory, but more like the KEY to the factory.
However, it is up to the individual if they use that key to open the door, and walk outside and escape, or use the same key to lock themselves in the factory.

I like your point. This made me think. I must agree. But now let me ask you this, since i think you are one of few people who will fully understand me being familiar with Gurdjieff:

Gurdjieff; B.F. Skinner; and Robert Anton Wilson says that man (as in humans in general) are not intelligent, but rather only reactionary robots that follow clear reactionary programs: i.e. If Hungry than Eat; If Sleepy than Sleep; If Frightened than Fight or Fly...

So in this context; religion and politics, can be seen as "biological Software or programs" of sorts.

Under this light. What makes the Satanism "Bioware" better than anyother "Bioware?" Should we instead be trying to surmount our robotic nature and liberate ourselves from software altogether?

Kayla
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#6929 - 04/01/08 02:21 AM Re: 3-17-08 [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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Excellent proposition Luciferific,

Perhaps you won't mind my $.02 USD...

Liberation is at the heart of Satanism... at least in my eyes.

The main difference in these "programs" is the horrible pretense of "dogma". What is "right", and "correct", as opposed to what actually works in your life.

If you look at the posts of many of the "veterans" of the 600club, I think you will see a pattern of awakening, that is not native to any other site on the subject. In fact, what I am saying now would, in fact, be considered blasphemy to the "Church of Satan".

Indeed, Satanism is the key for many here... you are definitely correct. But, keys themselves are but tools to reach a desired destination. The key, the door, just things to use and pass through. The "key" is disposable, especially if it is a "one-way" trip. The door is just a door.

Satanism, unlike any other "religion", is no haven, no resting place. We must evolve, or we are destroyed. So, perhaps this particular software was meant to adapt to its user, we just have to remember who's in charge. We ARE the programmers... (hey, just see "TRON" sometime).

So when it comes to being "bought and sold", we must remember that we are the buyers and sellers, and our product indeed is ourselves, if we so wish it to be.

Better make sure it's a good fucking product.


p.s. - Hey Kayla, nice to "meet" you.


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#6941 - 04/01/08 09:13 AM Re: 3-17-08 [Re: daevid777]
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 Originally Posted By: daevid777


Satanism, unlike any other "religion", is no haven, no resting place. We must evolve, or we are destroyed. So, perhaps this particular software was meant to adapt to its user, we just have to remember who's in charge. We ARE the programmers... (hey, just see "TRON" sometime).


p.s. - Hey Kayla, nice to "meet" you.


Thank you Daevid777. That was a very good answer. I'm beginning to see things your way. I forgot the issue of dogma; plus that Satanism conforms to the user, as you pointed out! I'll think about this during school.

Its a pleasure to meet you also. I've read most of your posts here and you are one of maybe 3 other people I look up to in this entire forum.

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#14613 - 11/17/08 08:25 PM Re: 3-17-08 [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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[quote=LUCIFERIFIC][quote=daevid777]

Satanism, unlike any other "religion", is no haven, no resting place. We must evolve, or we are destroyed.



Yes, I agree. This is something that I have to deal with over and over again. Like the Russian's "scorched earth" policy in which they destroyed their own crops so as not to feed the enemy, I have had to abandon things close to me just to survive. I have adopted a rather cold blooded survivalism. Whatever weighs me down must be cut loose or I will suffer. This is the law of thrift. I realize that I am my own best resource or commodity. As long as I preserve myself I can regenerate the extra parts. Adaptation is creativity. I am constantly distilling myself in order to become even more.....intoxicating.

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#14614 - 11/17/08 08:28 PM Re: 3-17-08 [Re: Satansfarm]
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Dude...Luciferic's post was made back in April, and she/he's since been banned. Please check the dates on posts that you want to reply to.
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