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#59190 - 09/18/11 02:05 PM 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated)
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Hail everybody!
I'd like to present a translation of my article that I wrote in 2004 for my Russian website.
Please, if you find any errors or something difficult to understand, let me know.

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Searching for Secret Knowledge
by Milchar


Since the ancient times, many legends have been told about the secret knowledge that gives a great might to the one who is able to comprehend it. Ancient Egyptian priests, Tibetan monks, as well as various secret societies and occult orders are often attributed the possession of such knowledge, which they presumably have been keeping for millennia in highest secrecy from laymen...

Nowadays, when intelligence services cannot get a direct access to the information they need, they try to decipher it by analyzing all the open information related to the secret anyhow: when and at what circumstances the secret information appeared, what people can know at least some part of it and what other business and social relationships those people have, what kinds of rumors are circulating about the organization that is keeping the secret, etc.. By this way, it becomes sometimes possible to correctly guess the secret, or to find an indirect access to it.

Let's start from the question: if the secret knowledge we're talking about does really exist, at what time and from where could it come? Or, in other words, what kind of information and in what situation can be reasonable to conceal for centuries or even millennia? (Moreover, that information should remain actual after that period.)

Surely, we're not dealing with a normal situation, a relatively stable historical epoch. Any scientific or technical knowledge gets obsolete soon. Even if sometimes lonely geniuses appear, who are going far ahead of their time, and who invent something that can find a use only centuries later (like Leonardo da Vinci, who hit upon the ideas of submarine and bathyscaphe) -- their works are hardly worth keeping in secrecy for centuries: people would reinvent everything anyway, as soon as industry demands it. The same can be said about any occult knowledge: what one person could invent, another one can reinvent if needed. Although it can be possible that some secret society is still keeping a technology of gunpowder production or the Bessel functions invented by some ancient civilization long before than we were thinking, a searcher of the real secret knowledge is not interested in such amusing things.

However, in a situation when an advanced civilization (either global or just leaving all other cultures far behind) is about to collapse by some reason, and primitive barbarians are going to come after it, -- the last representatives of that civilization can think of preserving its knowledge in secret. It would not make any sense for them to try to educate the barbarians immediately; first, it's a risk of being killed, and second, the barbarians simply would not be able to properly understand that knowledge at that moment. (Imagine, for example, how the Huns or Vandals could react if the philosophers from the academy of Athens tried to teach them something on the ruins of the Roman empire...)

However, being incomprehensible is not the worst what can happen to knowledge. A dangerous situation can occur if people are already able to understand it, but not yet able to predict the consequences of using it. For example, when the test of the first H-bomb was planned, some physicists feared that a thermonuclear explosion might cause an uncontrolled chain reaction involving the hydrogen atoms in ocean water, which would lead to a thermonuclear explosion of the whole Earth. At that moment, politicians decided to take a risk, and our planet came to be lucky. Nevertheless, this story makes us think: would not it be better if such a dangerous technology were kept highly secret and did not get into the hands of irresponsible politicians? This idea could have come to ancient wise men as well.

Additionally, another possible source of ancient secret knowledge can exist, though it has some flavor of conspiracy theories. Suppose that some politicians of an advanced ancient civilization (again, either global or going far ahead of other cultures), decided to fabricate some false version of history for the purpose of propaganda and brainwashing in the global scale. After that forged version had spread among people, and the truth nearly forgotten, the manipulators could keep the true information in secret for their own needs.

However, the things are probably simpler than we can think. Secret societies can just have been keeping information on the history and culture of the ancient civilization whose descendants they claim to be, because they, for some reason, consider their contemporaries unworthy of disclosing that information.

On the other hand, the very notion of "secret knowledge" is relative. An absolute secret is something that people are unaware about its very existence. Maybe some kind of such secrets exist, but if so, only its keepers can know anything about it. We can make any reasonable assumptions only when just the details of the knowledge are kept in secret, but the fact of its existence is openly known to some extent. Let's review the possible opportunities of this kind.


Technologies that provenly exist, but are not studied by the official science yet:

1) Telepathy. The existence of it was confirmed in several experiments, but the reliability of telepathic communication appears to be too low for any practical use. The most realistic physical explanation is an ability of human's brain to radiate and perceive electromagnetic waves of extremely low frequency.

2) Cold thermonuclear synthesis. The most realistic physical explanation can be catalytic thermonuclear reactions inspired by some particles present in cosmic rays.

3) Momentary levitation ("flying yogis"). Hundreds of evidences and tens of photo- and video-documents are known, but no ideas of scientific explanation proposed.

4) Long-term lethargy (up to decades) without any noticeable harm for the health and with deceleration of the processes of aging. From the point of view of medicine and physiology, it's not much wonder, but the practical techniques are kept in secret at several schools of Yoga.


Technologies attributed to gods in mythology, but possibly known to some people at some moment:

1) The ancient aircraft described in 'Vimanika-Shastra' treatise.

2) Stone processing with millimetric accuracy (which exceeds the abilities of modern industry) in the pyramids of Egypt and pre-Inca buildings of South America.

3) Lifting of loads weighing up to hundreds of tons, by using an unknown mechanism that makes a sound, similar to an orchestra of trumpets, during its work. It was implemented for construction of the Egyptiam pyramids and for destruction of the walls of Jericho.

4) The highly powerful weapon that destroyed the city of Mohendjo-Daro.

5) The unknown superhard alloy, unprocessable for any modern instruments, that was found in the mysterious artifacts ("cauldrons") at Olguydakh river (Yakutia, Russia).


Technologies formerly kept in secret societies and used by intelligence services nowadays:

1) Slowing of the subjective perception of time. It has been a technique of Asian martial arts, which is now used by commando units of some armies. This ability allows to make 10-20 times more actions in a time unit, and accelerates reactions to the same extent. However, it works for short time only, because the tiredness of using it comes also 10-20 times faster.

2) "The black medicine", i.e. the knowledge of how to kill a person with one fingertouch to a distinct weak spot at the body.

3) The techniques of "psychic programming" and other highly efficient methods of brainwashing.


Information that certainly was known to the ancient people and could be preserved in secret societies up to now:

1) The real origin of humankind.

2) Contacts with alien visitors in the distant past.

3) Ancient languages and writing system that are not deciphered yet.

4) Other data on ancient history, such as:
- civilizations that did not leave any artifacts or documents to descendants;
- Antarctica before the growth of its ice sheet, i.e. the primary source of data for Piri Reis's, Oronce Fine's and Philippe Buache's maps; the possible existence of human cultures in the ancient Antarctica;
- the real purpose of the pyramids in Egypt and Mexico;
- and many other issues.


Technologies described in unreliable sources, but not provenly impossible:

1) Teleportation at the distance of up to tens of kilometers.

2) Direct observing of events of the past (up to millennia before) and the future (up to decades ahead) without physically traveling in time. The observers say that the semi-transparent pictures of the past or future are overlaid on the view of the present, and that staying at the place of the past or future events is a necessary condition for seeing them this way.

3) Time traveling at the sites of natural anomaly zones (up to several days into the future, or several month into the past).


Notice that the knowledge attributed to gods in mythology can, to some extent, be viewed as several distinct branches of science and technology rather than a bunch of tricks unrelated to each other:

1) The study of the anomalous (from the point of view of our science) features of time and space. This also includes the artifacts found in rocks and minerals that date back to millions of years.

2) The study of the properties of gravitation that are still unknown to our physics; this, however, can be a particular case of the aforementioned spacial and temporal phenomena.

3) The study of properties of the human psyche yet unknown to the modern science; they can also interact by some way with the properties of space, time and gravitation.


This means that the secret knowledge can be not just a collection of "patents" in different areas of technologies unknown to us, but a single secret science with its own theory, laws and mathematical formulas, which describe the phenomena that are very rarely observed in nature and, therefore, untouched by our official science. The Yogis' flights and what we call magic -- this all can be particular cases of the phenomena studied by that secret science. Probably, some fragments of it got spread due to an information leakage. However, without any systematized knowledge of those rare natural phenomena, we cannot create any new technologies based on them. Remember, how long was the way from the first use of fire to the modern chemistry. Apparently, in the area of knowledge that has suspectedly been kept in secrecy for millennia, setting experiments is a much harder task than in chemistry or physics, because it's dealing with phenomena observed so rarely that some people never can see them for their whole life. Nevertheless, a more advanced civilization, whose history lasted for many millennia, could have studied them and considered too dangerous to disclose that knowledge to the barbarians that came after it; however, it chose a few talented persons among those barbarians and bequeathed them to keep that knowledge secret until more intelligent descendants come, who would be able to use it safely.

Here a question can arise: "Why those who have been possessing so powerful technologies for millennia still don't manifest themselves? why they, for example, have not conquered the whole world?" First, the keepers of the secret knowledge can believe that the moment for using it the most efficient way has not come yet; if they have been waiting for so long, they can wait even more. Second, and the most important: that knowledge has been kept in secret exactly for protecting it from such mad pretenders to the reign over the world. Imagine, for example, what could happen if the Nazis got access to the technology of nuclear weapons? and what can happen if now the Islamic terrorists get access to it?

Now, let's turn from the question of what can have been kept in secrecy for millennia to the issue of how it can be done. Imagine that we are those ancient wise men who know some information that:
1) cannot find any practical use at the moment;
2) can become really useful in the distant future;
3) can lead to disastrous effects on something valuable for us if has fallen into the hands of ill-educated fools.

We need to keep that information for our better descendants by such a way that:
1) it never got forgotten or distorted;
2) it never got known to laymen before its time comes.

The 2nd condition is the most difficult to satisfy. Even if we believe that the candidates for keepers of the knowledge are always reliable, we're unable to predict all accidents that can happen in centuries. This means that, sooner or later, the information that we want to keep in secrecy will fall into the hands of undesired people anyway, despite of every possible security measures we can think about. Therefore, we need to keep our knowledge in such a form that, if a layman has got access to it, he does not understand it, or even does not recognize it as something secret and valuable.

Therefore, a usual cipher does not suit the goal, because it provokes a desire to break it, and, sooner or later, people will manage to do it. A solution can be a hidden cipher, which looks like an ordinary text on a topic unrelated to the enciphered message. For example, Bacon's cipher encodes the information into the shape of letters, so that glyphs are taken from different fonts and it's the font type that contains the real message. A more complicated cipher can set the symbols of the encoded message onto distinct positions in the text and fill the gaps between them with meaningless letters by such a way that the result looks like a grammatically correct text; in order to decipher it, one has to know the exact order of how the symbols of the encoded message are distributed inside the text and probably also the rules of their correspondence to the real letters that constitute the original message. Apropos, it can be not so stupid of the Cabbalists to try to find secret enciphered messages in 'Torah'. It seems to be a smart way to keep information secret: encode it in a religious text that tells the believers to preserve itself unchanged at any price. Maybe Somebody holds a small note with the key to it... The Cabbalists have been trying to hack it by brute force, but Somebody laughs at them, knowing that it will take them millions of years.

To distract people's attention, many fake secret societies can have been created, and fables about the mysteries of the Knights Templar, the Albigensians and the Illuminati have been told. The real keepers of the secret knowledge would have no reason to spread any information about themselves; if they exist, we cannot know even the real name of their organization. At the same time, those well-known "secret" societies serve as false targets for Gestapo, KGB, CIA and other chasers of secrets. Even if a sheer army of cops and spies breaks into their "secret" lodges with orders for general search and for arrest on all vain fools proud of their secret society membership -- this all will lead to nothing, as well as nothing has been found in Montsegur or in Tibetan monasteries.

However, those fake secret societies can have some indirect relation to the real secrets. The keepers of the real ancient knowledge can be their unofficial leaders and observe: how seriously the members are approaching to preservation of fake secrets and who of them are worth recruiting into the real secret society. In such a case, the formal leaders of a fake secret organization have no idea of its double purpose.

Anyway, mere security measures would not be sufficient for keeping information secret for millennia, if anybody who has accidentally got known the secret could give it away to everybody else. Nevertheless, if we are dealing not with a usual military or political secrets, but with the ancient knowledge, -- the secret can stand up for itself, because 99 persons of 100 would not understand it even if somebody tried to explain it to them as clear as possible. Even the rest 1 person of 100 would be unable to grasp the secret science without knowing its terminology and the facts it's based on. (This is exactly why modern researchers can understand next to nothing in 'Vimanika-Shastra', however strange it can seem: the ancient knowledge is written in plain text, but...)

Meanwhile, when people got access to something that lied beyond their comprehension, most probably they would make a cult around it. As my friend Sathur stated it, "They put a physics textbook upside down onto the altar, go around it chanting the sacred mantra E=mc2, and expect that wealth would fall into their hands." We can see it, for example, in the so-called cargo cults of Melanesian aborigines. Therefore, it's definitely possible for some religious texts to contain encrypted secret information that most followers of those religions are not aware of, while esoteric scholars are trying to decrypt it. Depending on the intellectual abilities of a person, several variants are possible:

1) Fanaticism. This is the easiest way for most people -- just to believe in what's openly stated in the religious text, feeling proud of knowing the only wisdom that's necessary to know.

2) Dogmatism. Some narrow-minded people are sure that they always understand everything the right way. When they hit upon something that lies beyond their comprehension, they try to "understand" it anyway they can. This is how dogmas appear. Dogmatists not just feel superior to those not believing in their dogmas, but sometimes even view themselves to be obliged to bring their "truth" to as many people as possible.

3) Mysticism. One of the most reliable ways to keep a secret is to disclose its unimportant part and claim it to be the whole of the secret. It's definitely possible that the current spread of occult information in popular literature follows exactly this recipe of hiding the very existence of the real secret. 99% of people who engage into occultism don't set any aims reaching farther than solving their everyday problems: to attract a mate, to avenge on an enemy, to get some material benefits. "Let them achieve their goals", -- decided Somebody who's keeping the real secrets, -- "so they'll stop searching anymore".

Those whose aim is searching for occult knowledge in itself, are caught at another bait -- an interesting but practically useless branch of the knowledge that could be developed forever without any visible result. Examples are numerous: astral, aura, bioenergy, Castaneda's inorganic beings, and much more.

4) "Spiritual enlightenment". When somebody starts to understand something that most people don't grasp and hardly ever can, it becomes a totally mind-changing experience. But this notorious "most people don't grasp and hardly ever can..." is yet another trap for "Human, All Too Human" that almost nobody can manage to avoid -- so strong is the desire to feel superior over most people. This is why the searchers stop here, as soon as they start feeling their advantage over laymen.


Even the aforementioned traits of human psyche would be sufficient for a great majority of people to be unable to use any secret knowledge that could accidentally fall into their hands. However, in addition to this, some propaganda tricks are intentionally implemented, which can possibly have been serving the goal of preventing any information leakage from secret societies, is they really exist:

Skepticism as a smokescreen. One of the best way to guard a secret is to persuade everybody that no secret exists at all. When searching any information leads to nothing but being called insane -- it can discourage everybody from such attempts, except those whose aim is searching for knowledge in itself, who view their life to be senseless if that knowledge did not exist, who are ready to sacrifice their reputation for it... This can also be a good filter for selection of candidates for new keepers of the secret knowledge.

Informational noise. Under the Soviet regime, the Western radio stations that broadcast in Russian were jammed. The most efficient jamming technology was using the same radio program with a delay of several seconds as a source of noise for jamming. It sounded astonishing: the sound was loud, it was even clear that the announcer was speaking Russian, but even a single word could not be understood. Secret societies can use a similar technique in order to additionally secure there information: they can just spread lots of rumors and misinformation on the same topic. Even if some part of the real secret knowledge accidentally leaked, it would be indistinguishable from all the informational noise that had been spread before.

This can also mean that, if the amount of stupid nonsense published on some topic seems too high and even exceeding the public demand on such junk, it can be a campaign of spreading informational noise.

"Imagine that an alien spaceship has crashed in a remote area of your country, and you, as a high-rank state official, have to hide this fact from the people. Two general scenarios are possible, let's call them the Soviet and the American one. The first scenario requires to build a fence of six rows of barbed wire around the site of the accident, to arrest all the witnesses, and to issue a new top-secret instruction for the censorship department. For the second scenario, you need to immediately report the accident to all mass media and to add also: a detailed comment by the president of the International Association of UFO Researchers, an essay of a popular sci-fi writer, an interview with a pop star confessing her teenage pregnancy of an alien from Altair, a report from a neo-nazi rally demanding resignation of that traitorous agent of the secret alien occupation government from the office of President, and, of course, many other materials on the relationships between the aliens and the Loch Ness monster, Bermuda triangle and Atlantis... Which way of concealing the truth is more efficient?"
/Kirill Yeskov "Our Criticism on F. Fukuyama"/

If we notice the areas where such informational noise campaign is going on now, we can see that most of them are related to the possible topics of the secret knowledge that were mentioned before.


However, keeping something in secrecy for ages poses another fatal problem: the keepers themselves could have lost the keys to their secrets. Even a plain text becomes more and more difficult to properly understand as time goes and cultures change. What was obvious to, for example, the ancient Romans can come to be not so clear for us. As a result, the members of modern secret societies can well have no clue to the information that they have been withholding from laymen for so long. If the information has not been practically used for centuries, its sense can have been forgotten, and now its keepers can only hope that some genius among their descendants will manage to decipher it.

On the other hand, we cannot exclude the situation that the encrypted information stored in the secret societies is something that our science has already reinvented. One example of such scenario is well known: the Free Masons society, which originally was founded for keeping 'The Ten Books on Architecture' by Vitruvius in secrecy; the knowledge of the construction technologies described in that treatise allowed to reduce the cost of any building works up to 10 times. Since the invention of book-printing, the secret of the Free Masons became known to all educated readers. But some members of that organization liked to continue playing a secret society, which they are still doing today.

Paradoxically, only few people really strive to access some secret knowledge, while the majority wants only to feel superior over laymen and to play mysterious rituals and symbols. Therefore, most of the now existing secret societies are probably nothing more than games of vanity, and there "secrets" can well have been written by mystic graphomaniacs of the 19th century.

Nevertheless, real and practically useful secret knowledge can exist. We can have found the optimal procedures for keeping it secret. The information is encrypted in a text on an absolutely unrelated topic. Preservation of this text is guaranteed somehow; for example, it can be a sacred text of a religion. The key to the cipher is being held in another country where few people can know the language of the text. Possibly, the knowledge is separated into several parts encrypted in different texts with different keys and cryptographic methods. For the purpose of combating a possible information leakage, a propaganda campaign is launched in advance, aiming to persuade people that any information on this topic is stupid nonsense.

Certainly, no security techniques can be absolutely reliable; the aforementioned one is not an exception either. Now, computers can find a key to any cipher; it's only a question of time. Ancient and exotic languages are also well studied. This all, however, can be foreseen by those who made that information secret; they could view it as a test of readiness to grasp the knowledge properly. People should first overcome their ethnic bounds and create powerful artificial intelligence -- and then they would be able to decrypt an ancient text and find a technology of anti-gravity or time traveling ;-)

Does such secret knowledge really exist? Or, maybe, the greatest occult secret of all times is the fact that such secrets make no sense, because geniuses can always learn themselves whatever they want, while ordinary people can never really learn anything, no matter how many "secrets" are disclosed to them? What if the legends about secret knowledge have been made up with the only purpose of protecting geniuses from the aggression of the crowd of laymen? Let every average person dream of obtaining a supernatural might by mere reading the 'Book of the Dead' or entering a "secret" occult organization...

But even if matters stand this simple way, even if all the secret societies of keepers of the ancient knowledge are nothing more than a romantic legend, -- it would not mean that no secret knowledge exist. Secrets is not necessarily something intentionally concealed from people. Nature still contains many secrets that embarrass both scientists and occultists. You don't need to be initiated in a mystic order to disclose these secrets; you need only intellect, effort, and a bit of fortune.

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Translated from Russian by Milchar, 2011

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#59279 - 09/20/11 10:08 AM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: Milchar]
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Hi Milchar,

I think we've read many of the same books and perhaps share many common interests.

I've certainly, in the past, considered the idea of secret societies perhaps holding on to ancient wisdom and knowledge. More recently, what I've come to suspect, though is that if anyone were to have access to anything potentially profitable or something that could give them an edge (power over others) they would use it.

Sometime in the past few years I re-read Stephen King's "The Stand" wherein the world suffers an apocalypse via an engineered disease. Without maintenance workers the power grid shuts down fairly quickly (which would really happen) and later in the story a couple of people, who know how, turn it back on again.

I found myself wondering where the story would have gone if that one guy who knew how the power stations generated electricity and how to turn it all on hadn't survived.

I do think that the ancients had access to technologies that we are loathe to credit them with (as we want to think that the apex is now). Lately I've been considering David Childress' assertions that the pyramids were power stations versus the current esoteric understanding of them as burial chambers. He makes some solid points and I find some of the ideas/evidence worthy of consideration.

Anyway, I digress. I think that instead of ancient wisdom being held captive by some shadowy group or groups it has simply been forgotten across time. Like the King story I alluded to above, I think the final sentinels of the understanding of that time died off and new ones were born into new understandings (if there indeed be anything new under the sun).

As I've gotten older, I've begun to see time as something that revolves around and around instead of something that is strictly linear. I see bygone patterns become reality again, I see the same shapes and forms (and motivations) renew again and again albeit with new and exciting coats of paint for new generations. With discoveries of cities that pre date our current understanding of history (and indeed throw curve balls at conventional wisdom) it won't surprise me to learn that they probably had to have advanced construction techniques before such things were thought possible (one need only look to the pyramids for the elephant in the room).

If there is a database of secret knowledge somewhere, I hope that it will one day be brought to light. I don't think we can ever really progress into a sane future without understanding our past. We'll just keep spinning on the 'ol time carousel.
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#59308 - 09/20/11 07:26 PM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: Fnord]
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I think it's rather pretentious to assume that the ancients needed extraterrestrial assistance to do anything significant. Many of the great civilizations of old had amazing technical skill-- nowadays we simply have access to a wider range of resources.

The Egyptians kept detailed records on the construction of the pyramids, keeping track of materials used, teams of workers, on-site camps, et cetera. While there was much mystery surrounding Egypt in the middle ages and Renaissance, modern Egyptology has pretty much eliminated the need to invoke outrageous explanations that involve aliens and the like. (We even hear how the construction of the pyramids nearly bankrupted the Egyptian royalty-- aliens must have been real assholes if they led the project through development, but then left the workers at the end to foot the bill).

Nonetheless, as even the most cursory study of Hermeticism and Alchemy shows, true esoteric knowledge is not a set of facts, written teachings, or practical rituals. Knowledge is gnosis-- that is, hard and practical experience of the divine.

For instance, even if one were to discover a medieval manuscript with clear and reliable instructions to transmute common lead into physical gold, this would not constitute true "wisdom". It is only the byproduct of understanding; whether or not it can be reproduced physically by others is of no concern.

It is experiential in the most profound sense of the term. It cannot be condensed into discrete words. Masters have, throughout the ages, left maps and guides to help lead the practitioner on his own spiritual quest, but they are just that-- guides, and not the actual wisdom itself.


Edited by The Zebu (09/20/11 07:29 PM)
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#59319 - 09/20/11 11:22 PM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: The Zebu]
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 Originally Posted By: The Zebu
I think it's rather pretentious to assume that the ancients needed extraterrestrial assistance to do anything significant.


Didn't mean to imply that if my invocation of Childress' work did that. I only meant to underscore his ideas RE: how the pyramids don't seem to fit the burial chamber idea.

For the record, I don't lend much credence to the ancient alien hypothesis. I think, rather, that our ancestors were perhaps more advanced than we give them credit for (collectively).
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#59337 - 09/21/11 10:20 AM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: Fnord]
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Isn't Childress that guy with those theories about dinosaurs too? The guy who states that since there are stories about dragons and such, they must therefor have existed?
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#59357 - 09/21/11 10:44 PM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: Diavolo]
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I get tired of hearing how great the Egyptians were........if one culture's technology is different than another's does that make it better?
Individuals in our culture have produced some pretty amazing shit, and they didn't have to bury their cat alive to facilitate such things.
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#59365 - 09/22/11 08:17 AM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: RAIDER]
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No, but we still do a bunch of stupid things like worship the 2,000-year-old corpse of a jewish heretic, and perpetrate abominations such through war, colonialism, corporate oppression, etc. And cable television.

Egypt was simply Egypt. You don't need to attach any sort of moral qualifier to acknowledge that the Egyptians had advanced artistic, technological and architectural skill for their time and place.
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#59379 - 09/22/11 12:01 PM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: The Zebu]
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The Egyptians are also credited with the creation of the first form of Monotheism.
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#59383 - 09/22/11 02:09 PM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: The Zebu]
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Each civilization did remarkable things within their context but none of them were superhumans. It is not because we can't explain certain aspects about them, it must therefor be too advanced or too technological.

In Egypt they showed signs of serious craftsmanship and we lack the findings to explain what tools or techniques they used but this does not necessarily imply aliens helped them out, or their tools must therefore have been more technological advanced than our. It's entirely possible they used very low tech materials that can do the same we need high tech gear for but which is simply forgotten in time.

A bit akin certain tribes in the jungle just using some leaves to cure a problem we needed a whole pharmaceutical industry for.

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#59387 - 09/22/11 03:14 PM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: Diavolo]
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You make a very good point, that is, "within their context". Each civilization has its own set of resources and skills. The Egyptians were skilled sandstone masonry because the land was ripe with it. Sumerians were able to build complex multi-tiered ziggurats using just mud, because, well, that was all they had. Europeans were master woodworkers because trees were fucking everywhere. Again, there's really no need to invoke any fantastic explanations for what can be explained by an anthropology 101 class.

I leave you with this bit of insight:

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#59399 - 09/23/11 10:32 AM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: The Zebu]
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Yep all civilizations reached a height depending upon their conditions. But if you don't have the resources, or geographical benefits, you will encounter your limits. After that, all you can do is wait until it all tumbles down again; either by nature striking or others taking you down.

I remember reading that instead of mass-slavery working at the pyramids, it was actually a workforce of skilled laborers. It would not be far-fetched to imagine them being rather protective about their trade secrets and when they went down, the knowledge disappeared with them.

It sounds more plausible than alien assistance. Seriously, if you visit with a spaceship, you sure can do better architecture than putting some stones on each other.





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#59426 - 09/24/11 01:59 AM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: Milchar]
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"UNLOCKING THE STARGATE"
Scroll of Set, November 1994
Temple of Set

[On Monday, November 7, 1994 Michael Aquino and Linda Reynolds met at the University of California, Berkeley for a closed-circuit televideo conference with Professor Emeritus Harry I. Jones, Department of Archæology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Aquino and Reynolds had recently seen the film Stargate and had pointedly-divergent opinions concerning its substance, symbolism, and significance. Magister Dennis Mann and Adept Karen Revay had recommended Jones as a knowledgeable specialist in the field. Also participating, from a televideo facility at the deYoung Museum of San Francisco, was a noted rock musician, here identified as “X”. (The following transcript of the teleconference has been edited for length.)]

MA: Dr. Jones, have you seen the film Stargate?

HJ: No, I’m afraid I don’t get to the movies very much. What was it about?

X: It was a somewhat fictionalized account of a project I did for the U.S. Space Command at Cheyenne Mountain two years ago. It was supposed to be hush-hush, under wraps, all that sort of thing. I guess it didn’t turn out to be that well-kept a secret, did it?

LR: Is that why the young archæologist in the film looked so much like you? Was that deliberate?

X: Could be. Nobody asked me. I didn’t even know the film was being made until I saw it advertised in the paper.

HJ: What was this project?

X: Back in the seventies I did quite a few songs dealing with Egypt, space travel, galactic, with an emphasis on the Andromeda Galaxy. I made some of it up, other people in the band made some of it up, but I took the basic ideas from a lot of speculation about that sort of thing that was going around in the Haight at the time. Some serious, some not so. It evidently got me on file with the Air Force, if you can believe that.

LR: The Air Force contacted you about it?

X: Well, the Stanford Research Institute down in Palo Alto asked me to participate in some discussions. I thought it was all civilian academic. Turned out that two of the people in the white coats wore blue ones underneath. So then in 1991 I was asked to come out to Colorado Springs. It was supposed to be a seminar sort of thing at the Air Force Academy, but when I got there, they took me up to the mountain, and then things got weird. Michael was there; he knows.

MA: It was weird, all right. But let’s talk about what the film did with it. In the movie some archæologists in Egypt working in a Fourth Dynasty dig discovered a gigantic stone ring, which was found to be some sort of mechanism oriented to the constellations as they appeared during the Fourth Dynasty. It wound up in Cheyenne Mountain, given another name in the movie for whatever reason. The people SPACECOM originally brought in didn’t have the hieroglyphic skills to decipher all of the inscriptions, but the X-character did, and managed to turn the thing on. It was the “stargate” of the film’s title, and worked as a sort of slingshot to an unnamed planet in the vicinity of Orion. The X-character took the trip, together with a Special Forces A-team led by, um -

LR: Led by a colonel who everyone thought was a weirdo but who got pulled into the Space Command because he happened to have the mix of skills to handle something like this?

X: Ha!

MA: So on the Orion-planet the archæologist and the team found a desert city of human slaves and an Egyptian-style pyramid and temple, which turned out to be a landing-site for an alien spaceship, also shaped like a pyramid. The alien was a disembodied intelligence who possessed the body of a young man, called himself “Ra”, and used advanced technology to display both himself and a number of zombified human assistants as Egyptian gods animal heads and so forth and oppress the slave city. The team from Earth exposed the “gods” for what they were, blew up the alien in his spaceship, and returned to Earth through the stargate, minus the X-character, who decided to stay on the Orion planet.

LR: The insinuation was that the alien originally came to Egypt, on Earth, at the time of the Fourth Dynasty, was responsible for the technology required to build the Great Pyramid, didn’t want the Egyptians to be literate, hence the absence of inscriptions in the Pyramid. When Michael saw the film, he got mad because he thought it was portraying the Egyptian gods as an oppressive alien fraud. I didn’t agree I thought that the alien came to Earth and saw an opportunity to impersonate the gods which the Egyptians already had, and did as effective a job of it as his technology would allow.

X: And the film was full of hints, in-jokes, and nose tweaks. Budge’s books were kicked around for being obsolete in the hieroglyphics department. Hoffman’s Egypt Before the Pharaohs got several cameo shots, although that book is fairly conventional. There was a “sarcophagus” in the alien’s pyramid-ship that could bring dead humans back to life - the implication being that the mysterious coffer in the King’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid was built as a ritualistic imitation of that device.

HJ: Well, I’ll give Hollywood credit for coming up with some wild movie fantasies.

MA: Just a fantasy, then, in your opinion?

HJ: So what were you guys doing at the mountain? Never mind, I don’t want to get you in any trouble. But let’s take a look at some of the factors which would make a movie like this possible.

One: Egypt’s civilization seemed to come out of nowhere, all of a sudden. One moment you’ve got a bunch of hunting and farming tribes wandering around the Nile Valley; the next you’ve got a highly-organized nation-state society doing brain surgery, writing and thinking in any number of abstractions, and erecting buildings so geographically precise, and so precisely designed, that five thousand years later we still can’t duplicate them.

Two: The Pyramids, and particularly the Great Pyramid. There’s been any number of books written about them, as you know. Edwards. Tompkins. Lots of conventional archæology, even more far-out stuff. Just this year another one - The Orion Mystery by Bauval and Gilbert, who are going on about how if you sight up the south ventilation shaft from the King’s Chamber, adjusting to 2600 BCE or so, you get Orion, and if you look at the three Giza pyramids from above, you are supposed to see something like Orion’s belt. Since that book came out in 1994, I’m guessing that it’s where your film got the Orion theme.

But these are all just theories. Not even theories, really - just speculation. Nobody has the slightest idea, really, who built the Great Pyramid, or why, or when. Stand back and look at the damned thing. It’s an architectural nightmare. It’s impossible to build. All of its interior design features make absolutely no sense. The location, size, and design of the passages and chambers make no sense. The coffer - um, well, anyway you get the point. The Pyramid irritates people because it is so utterly alien to what people have usually built throughout recorded history. It’s also so big that it can’t be ignored. So you’re going to get a procession of idiots - scholars, occultists, whatever - insisting that they can explain it. They’re just pulling ideas out of the air. And, like now, you’re going to get storytellers making cute movies about it. Land of the Pharaohs in the fifties, Stargate today, something else tomorrow.

Incidentally the Egyptians were reading and writing just fine in the Fourth Dynasty. They were doing it in the First Dynasty! The Great Pyramid doesn’t have any writing in it -

LR: - The X-archæologist in the film said that at the beginning, but he was ridiculed by an audience of Egyptologists, one of whom insisted that Khufu’s name was inscribed on some of the internal building-blocks.

HJ: Just scrawled graffiti. If you saw someone’s handwritten name crayoned on a piece of concrete in an elevator shaft of the Empire State Building, would you assume that he built the building or that it was built to commemorate him? Hardly. That’s just another instance of Egyptologists scrambling around desperately, trying to shoehorn the Pyramid into a nice, ordinary place in their books.

X: A few minutes ago you mentioned Orion, and that book -

LR: - The Orion Mystery -

X: The Orion Mystery. Apparently the authors were quite excited about Orion and the Pyramid. Any thoughts?

HJ: Archæology is a three-step process. First you find something. Then you try to figure out what it means. Finally you have to get other archæologists to listen to you and agree with you.

Late 19th Century there the director of the solar physics observatory of the Royal College of Science in London was a professor of astronomical physics by the name of Norman Lockyer. Got knighted for his Sun-studies, I think. Anyway he got interested in Egypt - decided that the Egyptian gods were in fact glyphs of solar, lunar, and stellar bodies, relationships, phenomena. He went on to apply this idea to Egyptian monuments and architecture. Wrote the whole thing up in a book called The Dawn of Astronomy. Pissed conventional Egyptologists off something fierce. You see, it was accepted, by which I mean entrenched in doctrine, that Egypt was a civilization too primitive and superstitious to be capable of anything like complex astronomy, to say nothing of architecture based on it. Also Lockyer was an astronomer, not a school-trained archæologist, which meant that he was an outsider and upstart. So his book was disdainfully ignored. For years it was almost impossible to find. Shortly after the war I came across a copy, and after reading it I harassed some friends at MIT into reprinting it.

Lockyer was not mind-numbed by all of the Osirian mortuary stuff that Plutarch imprinted on conventional Egyptology. He understood the original, pre-dynastic Set/Horus dichotomy - Set the celestial pole and/or the circumpolar stars, Horus the Sun which “defeated” the night sky every dawn and was “defeated” by it every evening. He knew that Egypt, as an agrarian culture with a seasonal river, was highly attuned to astronomical signals of the cycling of time.

Do you see the point here? Lockyer’s god-system worked. That is, his Egyptian gods did exactly what their priests said they would, right on time, over and over again. This wasn’t one of those situations where you pray or sacrifice to a god and nothing happens. It worked.

Lockyer also took the ponderous Osiris/Isis mythology and resolved it as neatly as could be, without all the human death-fetishism that conventional Egyptology insists upon:

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I have previously noted the symbolism of Sirius-Hathor as a cow in a boat associated with the constellation of Orion. There is a point connected with this which I did not then refer to, but which is of extreme importance for a complete discussion of the question now occupying us. We get associated with the cow in the boat, Orion (Sah) as Horus, but in other inscriptions we get Orion as a mummy that is to say, in the course of Egyptian history the same constellation is symbolized as a rising sun at one time and a setting sun at another. Now, that must have been so if the Egyptian mythology were consistent and rested on an astronomical basis, because Sah rose in the dawn in one case and faded at dawn in the other. From the table giving a generalized statement with regard to Osiris, similar to that we have already considered for Isis, it looks as if the mythology connected with Osiris is simply the mythology connected with any celestial body becoming invisible. We have the sun setting, the moon waning, a planet setting, stars setting, constellations fading at dawn. We see, therefore, that the Egyptian mythology was absolutely and completely consistent with the astronomical conditions by which they were surrounded; that, although it is wonderfully poetical, in no case is the poetry allowed to interfere with the strictest and most accurate reference to the astronomical phenomena which had to be dealt with.

The argument, then, for the use of “Isis” as a generic name is greatly strengthened by the similar way in which the term “Osiris”, which is acknowledged to be a generic name, is employed.

LR: And the point of the Orion azimuth-channel in the Pyramid?

HJ: The Orion Mystery assumes that the Pyramid was in fact Khufu’s tomb, and that his spirit expected to go to the stars to merge with Osiris after his body’s death, and that the Orion-constellation represented Osiris. Presumably the southern air-vent in the King’s Chamber was to give Khufu a running start in the right direction. The authors conveniently ignore the northern, polar-stars-oriented vent, to be sure.

MA: You don’t think there’s anything to their theory?

HJ: It’s absurd to consider the Pyramid a tomb. One look at its internal design is enough to dispel that notion. The Egyptians designed and decorated their tombs methodically and elaborately. The coffer in the King’s Chamber is an inch or so wider than the passages to that part of the Pyramid. Nor does it have a lid. And of course when Al Mamun’s men got into the King’s Chamber for the first time, i.e. by boring through solid rock around the sealed granite-plugged passages in 813 CE, there was nothing there except the empty coffer. Makes no difference: Since then conventional Egyptologists have been insisting that the Pyramid was Khufu’s tomb, because that’s the only way they can fit it into their equally-conventional image of Egypt.

LR: About those shafts in the King’s Chamber, let me read you something from The Orion Mystery:

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Badawy’s architectural studies had shown that the ancient Egyptians did not ventilate tombs ... Badawy pointed out: “To ventilate the burial chamber of Cheops channels running horizontally at the level of the ceiling would have been more adequate than the inclined shafts ... One should add to this inadequacy in the design all the constructional problems involved in the building of the two inclined shafts through all the courses, a process which could have been avoided by building them through one horizontal course.”

HJ: If the Egyptians didn’t ventilate tombs, it stands to reason that the Pyramid wasn’t designed as a tomb, doesn’t it? Why provide any air-access to a sealed tomb? Also, as the descending, ascending, and Grand Gallery passages clearly show, the Pyramid-builders weren’t in the least deterred by constructing inclined passages. All of those could have been made level, or stepped, if inclines presented a problem.

Incidentally you cannot look through either vent-shaft and see the sky, Orion or otherwise, for the simple reason that the shafts do not run in a straight line from the walls of the King’s Chamber. They both run horizontally through the chamber walls, only then bend upwards. In daytime, and with all interior lights in the Pyramid turned off, they do admit two faint beams of light, however, but that’s all I’m going to say about that for now.

X: In Stargate the implication is the Great Pyramid was Fourth Dynasty, i.e. Khufu. When do you think it was built?

HJ: According to the Arab historian Abu-Zeyd-el-Balkhy, inscriptions on the now-destroyed exteriors of the Giza pyramids give their time of construction as when Lyra was in the sign of Cancer. That would have been about 73,000 years ago, in the late-middle Palæolithic.

X: Well, what about that book they were using at Cheyenne - the one that also got cameoed in Stargate?

MA: Hoffman’s Egypt Before the Pharaohs -

HJ: I know it well; I know Mike Hoffman. He and I used to go drinking at Virginia when I was a Visiting Professor there a few years back. Yeah, the book’s sound as far as it goes, but remember that it’s based on what you’d call the “normal range” of archæological supporting data: geological digs, climate calculations, pottery, tools, hut ruins, that sort of thing. It found just what you would normally expect to find in a mideast precivilization of that time period. Point is Hoffman assumes, not unreasonably, that there was nothing else sitting around the Nile while the Gerzean Egyptians were building huts and carving flints something like the Pyramid, for instance. Hoffman has no way of knowing that it was not there all the while, looming over the Gerzeans.

Hoffman brings out in his book that the hook we hang Egyptian dynastic dating on, particularly the early dynasties, is a list from Manetho, an Egyptian priest at Sebennytos in the Nile Delta around 280 BCE. We have it today only in fragments, but it’s still the hook, so to speak. That’s how we get the usual 30 dynasties, and conventional Egyptologists are more or less happy with that.

What they’re not so happy about is that Manetho’s list goes on quite a ways before Menes, before the accepted date of 3100 BCE going backwards: 350 years Thinites; 1,790 years other Memphite kings; 1,817 years other kings; 1,255 years “Heroes”; and before that 13,900 years in which the neteru - the “gods” - reigned physically on Earth. That’s where Manetho stops.

LR: But Egypt is full of other pyramids which have been reliably dated to the Old Kingdom.

HJ: But not by any stretch of the same construction quality. Most of them are just crumbling piles of rock. They could just as easily be imitations of a pre-existing, mysterious, and impressive Great Pyramid.

X: At Cheyenne we began by using a computer-modeling program to take the sky back to the coded references we were given to work with. But the initial conclusion was that something was wrong with the data, with the inscriptions, because the reconstructed sky went back around 25,000 years.

HJ: According to Hoffman, you had just basic tool-making culture at that time.

X: That thing at Cheyenne wasn’t any piece of chipped flint!

LR: Was it like the Stargate? In the film, I mean.

MA: Actually we couldn’t figure out what the hell it was. It came from Egypt, but we weren’t told exactly from where. It’s a mechanical device moving parts of some sort non-organic, so it couldn’t be carbon-dated and X did in fact discover that several of the symbols on it corresponded to the 25,000-year-old sky; but that’s where the project came to a halt. In fact the 25,000-figure was considered invalid somehow, because the archæological advisors of the project were quite certain that Egyptian civilization only went back to 3100 BCE. So that sent them off in other directions, and X went home and I was assigned back to regular J2 duties. I thought the whole thing had been dropped as a dead end. Looks like someone got the bright idea to use it as the basis for a movie, including X’s involvement - though it’s nice to see that you aren’t marooned somewhere around Orion, X!

X: Looked like fun in the film. Almost wish I were.

LR: The project was halted, you said, but the film implied that the device was in fact a - a jumping device between Earth and the Orion planet, and that evidence of an alien masquerading as an Egyptian god showed up there.

X: My fault, probably. At Cheyenne I was going on about some of the themes in my music, and we got into some interesting bull sessions on all of that, and I guess someone was making notes. Did you ever hear “The Wheel”, “Point Zero”, some of the older stuff, as from Bark:

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Egyptian kings they sing of Gods and pyramids of stone,
And they left the deserts clean, and they left the deserts golden
And shining as a beacon for those who need a road
Into the day and through the night we go and find our way home ...

- that sort of thing? Quite a lot of it, really.

MA: One thing in the film surprised me - why the alien chose to impersonate Ra. Why not Set, who in the kind of lightweight Egyptian mythology used in Orion Mystery, and the film, is cast as the “evil god”? Not that I’m complaining. But why not Osiris, who Orion Mystery insists was associated with Orion? Ra was the Sun-god, more specifically Earth’s Sun-god, and as I recall he was not particularly nasty.

LR: Could be because Ra was famous for being a “traveling” god - in his barque across the heavens every day - which would have supported this alien’s use of his spaceship.

HJ: Also you said that the film dated this character to the Fourth Dynasty. I don’t know whether they got that technical about it, but it wasn’t until much later in dynastic history that Osiris became anything more than a god of the dead, and to begin with a minor one, for in the underworld he was subordinate to Ra, or Auf, the “dead Sun”, during the hours of darkness.

LR: We’re about out of time here. Any closing comments?

X: I’d like to go back to Cheyenne and try that gadget out, if that’s how it works.

MA: I’m rather fascinated to see that there’s so much data hiding behind the facade of the movie, even if some of it’s off in left field. Looks like at least some hard thinking went into it, and possibly got derailed later in the editorial process - for example, the need to turn it into a monster-movie with a bad alien instead of portraying Ra as a more benevolent type of superalien - Michael Rennie in a nemyss, whatever.

HJ: Amazing the lengths some people will go to write a crazy story about the Great Pyramid.

LR: Thank you all.

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#59474 - 09/25/11 04:10 AM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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Hailings, Dr. Aquino!

Thank you for posting this material here.
I strongly agree with you regarding the pyramids. I know Dr. Andrey Sklyarov from Moscow, Russia, who organized several expeditions to Egypt, Mexico, Peru, the Middle East and some other sites of mysterious ancient monuments. In those expeditions, experts in many areas took part, including the construction engineering. Their conclusion was: building the Egyptian pyramids required the level of construction technologies of at least early 20th century. Bronze Age is certainly out of question, and even for the Ancient Romans it would be impossible. The same can be also said about the complex of Teotihuacan and some other sites in Mexico, as well as about the monuments of Peru and Bolivia. We are dealing with some advanced industrial civilization there; all the ancient cultures known to historians look ridiculously barbaric compared to it. For example, often the ruins of a skilfully made old building were used as the foundation for a primitive newer one, and the difference in their technological levels is really striking.
In my opinion, history has not yet become a real science. It's more about ideology and propaganda rather than scientific study of the past. To make it a real science, we need first to forget it all, and to study all known artifacts, monuments and texts from scratch again.

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#59487 - 09/25/11 02:51 PM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: Milchar]
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HISTORY vs. "REALITY CONTROL"
AntiDoublethink for AFIO [Association of Former Intelligence Officers]
- by -
Michael A. Aquino, Ph.D.
Lt. Colonel, PSYOP, USA-Ret.
Adjunct Professor of Political Science, Golden Gate University

December 1, 1993

 Originally Posted By: George Orwell, 1984
The Party said that Oceania had never been in alliance with Eurasia. He, Winston Smith, knew that Oceania had been in alliance with Eurasia as short a time as four years ago. But where did that knowledge exist? Only in his own consciousness, which in any case must soon be annihilated. And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed - if all records told the same tale - then the lie passed into history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the Party slogan, “controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.” And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. “Reality control” they called it; in Newspeak “doublethink”.

“History” is something we can count on as a standard of morality, as hard evidence of truth, as bedrock amidst our whirling contemporary environment of uncertainties, right?

Wrong. Historical accounts are written by human beings with widely-varying backgrounds, perspectives, motives, and paychecks. Even given perfect, immediate access to all information about an event, no two people will describe it, or its significance, in the same way. And in historical research there is almost never access to all relevant information to begin with.

Daniel J. Boorstin is Librarian of Congress Emeritus, and is a distinguished scholar and Pulitzer Prize winner who has authored many superb historical analyses. In his Hidden History: Exploring Our Secret Past (NY: Vintage Books, 1989), he proposes several laws that shape what we know as “history”:

 Originally Posted By: D.J.B., Hidden History
(1) The Law of the Survival of the Unread. There is a natural and inevitable tendency toward the destruction and disappearance of documents most widely used; therefore there is an inverse relationship between the probability of a document surviving and its value as evidence of the daily life of the age from which it survives.

(2) Survival of the Durable, and That Which is not Removed or Displaced. Tombs, burial objects, mummies, temples, churches, and pyramids tend to skew our view of the past. They give a prominence to religion in the relics of the past which it may not actually have had in the lives people lived.

(3) Survival of the Collected and the Protected: what goes in government files. We emphasize political history and government in the life of the past partly because governments keep records while families and other informal groups seldom do.

(4) Survival of Objects Which are not Used or Which Have a High Intrinsic Value. It is not only in printed matter that rarity and scarcity induce survival. Treasured or hoarded artifacts frequently survive where commonly-used, more representative ones do not.

(5) Survival of the Academically Classifiable and the Dignified. Teachers teach the subjects in which they have been instructed.

(6) Survival of Printed and other Materials Surrounding Controversies. What often passes for the history of a practice, belief, or institution is more accurately the history of controversies about it.

(7) Survival of the Self-Serving: The Psycho-Pathology of Diarists and Letter-Writers. Historians are urged to seek records by participants in events, preferably those made at the time or soon thereafter. Such are often self-serving and egotistical at the expense of objectivity.

(8) Survival of the Victorious Point of View: The Success Bias. If an invention, trend, or point of view prevailed, it and its proponents are assumed to be representative rather than failed or minority alternatives.

(9) Survival of the Epiphenomenal. People often write and read books because they cannot personally experience what is described. It is often uncertain whether a writer is recording or escaping an experience.

(10) Knowledge Survives and Accumulates, but Ignorance Disappears. The mind of the modern historian has access to the accumulated knowledge and experience of the ages since the period of the past he is trying to recapture, but for this reason he cannot see reality as the people of that time saw it.

What are the implications of this for the Intelligence profession? It means that:

(a) All of the historical sources you consult are incomplete, inaccurate, biased, and/or incompetent to some degree.

(b) You yourself are in the grip of tacit prejudices and presuppositions which you have never questioned or even acknowledged as anything to be questioned.

You can compensate for #a by going outside “blessed” history sources to others, including those of the “enemy” (then or now) in order to examine the events in question from as many perspectives as possible. You can compensate for #b by consulting third parties - including the “enemy” (then or now) - for their assessments of the issue, which you can then evaluate along with your own towards that eventual, vital objectivity.

Thus History becomes an intelligence asset and not George Orwell’s “Reality Control”.

 Originally Posted By: James Bond, in Ian Fleming's Casino Royale, 1953
Of course patriotism comes along and makes it seem fairly all right, but this ‘my country right or wrong’ business is getting a little out of date. Today we are fighting communism. Okay. If I’d been alive fifty years ago, the brand of conservatism we have today would have been damn near called communism, and we should have been told to go and fight that. History is moving pretty quickly these days, and heroes and villains keep changing parts.

 Originally Posted By: Indiana Jones, Ph.D., Raiders of the Lost Ark. 1981
I don’t know - I’m making this up as I go!

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#59508 - 09/25/11 10:07 PM Re: 'Searching for Secret Knowledge' (translated) [Re: Milchar]
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I think you're subjecting yourself to magical thinking here.

The religious do the same: we don't know thus god. Here it isn't different; we don't have the facts thus "magical answer".

Some things you mention do not even match the criteria; although Teotihuacan is impressive in itself, its "technological" level becomes less impressive when looking at other parts of the world and seeing what they constructed. It isn't that ancient.

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