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#61179 - 11/06/11 08:49 AM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: Meph9]
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My concern is that the herd can be manipulated at times of financial crisis. Hitler came into power at a time when Germany was very fearful...he was considered a joke at the onset, but gradually took over. The Jew as scapegoat worked in his favor.

Also, since we still don't have a complete separation of church and state( we really don't), the notion that a religious order could seep into our goverment and legal system and have great effect isn't impossible.
Our currency still reads "in god we trust", we swear on the Judeo Christian bible in courts,... 14 ststes, Puerto Rico and the military had sodomy laws until recently, some states still attempt to enforce these laws even though they've been found unconstitutional...these are based on 'public morality'...one guess as to what 'public morality' is based on.
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#61184 - 11/06/11 10:19 AM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: Meph9]
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You have completely misinterpreted my post. What does types of people living in a community have to do with what I wrote??

A gay couple living in a neighborhood is a fail as a comparison. A better one would be are the citizens of a conservative, family oriented community allowed to say no to a gay nightclub on the corner? Answer: yes. It happens all the time by the way. Citizens of a community will vote down the building of businesses, HUD housing, hell even churches in their neighborhood, their community. That's what I said, they have the right to say not in my backyard.

My biggest bone of contention with building a mosque (or any building, again damn) where it's not wanted is fairly "humane". If I was a Muslim, I'm not going to the unwanted mosque. I wouldn't want to deal with the vitrolic bullshit associated with it. I would go where I was wanted. There are several mosques and a large and relatively accepted Muslim community in the Nashville area.

Building it after the controversy involved, makes me question why. It creates an unnecesary amount of drama. It fans the flames that are already burning in this country.

If we take the right to say "not in my backyard" to shit, all Americans lose. We lose the right to vote things down things, influences that are unwanted in our communities, for whatever reason. If the citizens of Murfreesboro can't so no to a mosque, what prevents Sharia Law being passed due to "religious tolerance."
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#61194 - 11/06/11 04:53 PM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: Meph9]
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the constitution does not allow for the establishment of religion in government


And yet, it still happens. You are welcomed to be as brainwashed as you like in thinking the Constitution even matters anymore just know that you're wrong.
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#61205 - 11/06/11 08:05 PM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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How lucky for Muslims in the Western Liberal U.S. that they can even appeal to the free speech amendment in the U.S. Constitution. Under Shariah law there is no religious free speech for anyone who stops being a Muslim. The Islamic Republic of Iran government is planning to execute this guy for apostasy: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/11/04/...3_lnk1%7C110149
Thank goodness the IRI isn't watching my friends in Iran too closely. Many of them are self-professed Atheists or Satanists. They could be executed same as that Christian, for violating Shariah law.
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#61218 - 11/06/11 11:09 PM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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And you 6 can be as fearful of the negligible threat of sharia law as long you like but there are you aren't buying it. Would it be bad for it to happen in America? Yes, but I just can't imagine that happening anytime soon. Especially since we've got so many republicans and self identified conservatives out there on constant watch to make sure it does not happen diverting public attention to any possible chance that might involve it so they can distract us from their plans for the country.

this topic is dead I'm done running the same jive

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#61233 - 11/07/11 10:35 AM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: Meph9]
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Millions of devout Muslims throw stones at pillars representing Satan. What might they do with a Satanist?

http://youtu.be/83Es_PZd170
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#61254 - 11/08/11 02:38 AM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: dust-e sheytoon]
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Millions of devout Muslims throw stones at pillars representing Satan. What might they do with a Satanist?

Kill him

but again dusty you're but this is largely irrelavent

sharia is brutal and backward and thus I will never support it

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#61255 - 11/08/11 05:12 AM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: Meph9]
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im muslim ..maybe some of wht muslim ppl do is wrong ..but most satanist are bad thats 4 sure




Troll is banned.... Morgan


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#61256 - 11/08/11 05:30 AM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: sweetasdeath]
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Piss off, troll.
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#61557 - 11/18/11 07:35 AM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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Occupy Wall Street: A venue for Islamists and other democrats who want to see an "Arab Spring" in America. "Allah-o-Akbar... This is what Democracy looks like!" So long as these people are among the 99%, then it's not a 99% that I want to be part of. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xebI1auqMgY&feature=related

Organized Islamists, of the kind being hosted by OCCUPY, have been able to impose Islamic Law in major Western cities, while being a miniscule fraction of the national population of the countries in which those cities are located: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2VkIu8TL_I&feature=related See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jAC2ymmviQThe "Arab Spring" elects Islamists in Tunisia: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,793595,00.html

Tunisia Tastes Democracy: Early Results Point to Victory for the Islamists
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,793595,00.html

The "Arab Spring" establishes a Sharia regime in Libya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6W9Qylrmn8&feature=related

NTC Announces Shariah Law in Libya
http://www.youtube.comhttp://www.youtube...s-for-west.html

Egypt’s Simmering Rage
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...s-for-west.html
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#61578 - 11/18/11 08:03 PM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: dust-e sheytoon]
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Talking about Sharia law "going" to Libya or any other country in the Middle East is like saying "breaking news, sand found in desert". Sharia law has always been there so it should be no surprise to those who are familiar with the region's history.
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#61580 - 11/18/11 09:39 PM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: Meph9]
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Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq and Iran all had secular dictators that the U.S. government helped overthrow.

Sharia law is a relatively new system of laws. There were many religions in the area before Islam, before Christianity and before Judaism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamian_religion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia#Phoenician_gods_of_the_sea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people#Yazidis
Ya know, Meph9 I really get the feeling you've never been to the Middle East. You're opinions about it always have that second-hand, ill-informed patina.


Edited by dust-e sheytoon (11/18/11 10:04 PM)
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#61582 - 11/19/11 04:02 AM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: dust-e sheytoon]
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And which one of the aforementioned traditions have grown to promenence over the last few decades? Zero because all the religions you mention are from ancient times and this discussion is about the modern age.
Of course the ancient egyptians didn't have sharia because it didn't exist yet.

Fact is every country in that region from the most radical to the most secular elements of sharia exist in their law systems. Sharia inspired law can be found in every nation of the region.

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#61590 - 11/19/11 02:19 PM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: Meph9]
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...which one of the aforementioned traditions have grown to promenence over the last few decades? Zero because all the religions you mention are from ancient times and this discussion is about the modern age.
Ancient Egyptian, Phoenician, Manichaeian religions are very influential upon contemporary persons in high positions of power who are exploiting the Abrahamic religions as tools for mind control. Seriously, get your head out of the sand.


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#61611 - 11/19/11 10:43 PM Re: Panel: Is Islamic Sharia Law Coming to America? [Re: dust-e sheytoon]
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Yeah but I'm going to bet islam yeah, a little more infuential, just a little

...hence the sharia law being practiced in some form in just about every single country in that region save for Israel. So if you are implying that this is perhaps not true I welcome your evidence.

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