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#5953 - 03/19/08 08:55 PM Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help ..?
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This may or may not be rejected as a post by an idiot but that's okay. I was just wondering, I have spoken to a few individuals on this subject and obtained no real, solid, helpful information. I'm wondering if anyone who knows anything on this subject can help me out? Anything from a link to a page written about it here as a reply. I'm open-minded and haven really been thinking about it a lot. My purpose is to be able to possibly just control my will; is there a way to focus it? Something special you can do to make the wish or plead more powerful. I'm trying to sound smart here but really don't know what I'm talking about. So that's why I'm here.

I read various small pieces of scattered information on the subject and am very interested to find out about more of it.

To make it more clear, I am looking for anyone competant in channeling/using your will, Magics, and other such related subjects. I am hoping I don't killed for this, seeing as I am a new member. I also don't know the community very well. xD I'll see what happens. Thank you everyone who takes there time to help me out on my journey.
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#5956 - 03/19/08 09:11 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: PigFeeder]
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 Originally Posted By: PigFeeder
This may or may not be rejected as a post by an idiot but that's okay. I was just wondering, I have spoken to a few individuals on this subject and obtained no real, solid, helpful information. I'm wondering if anyone who knows anything on this subject can help me out? Anything from a link to a page written about it here as a reply. I'm open-minded and haven really been thinking about it a lot. My purpose is to be able to possibly just control my will; is there a way to focus it? Something special you can do to make the wish or plead more powerful. I'm trying to sound smart here but really don't know what I'm talking about. So that's why I'm here.

I read various small pieces of scattered information on the subject and am very interested to find out about more of it.

To make it more clear, I am looking for anyone competant in channeling/using your will, Magics, and other such related subjects. I am hoping I don't killed for this, seeing as I am a new member. I also don't know the community very well. xD I'll see what happens. Thank you everyone who takes there time to help me out on my journey.


Hey Piggy. There is one very simple thing you can use to learn to strengthen your will power (as taught in "Think And Grow Rich" by Napoleon Hill). Cultivate an unwavering sense of determination in life. Don't ever be indecisive when making a decision. Pick one path and go with it till the end. Theres nothing magical about will power.

Uneducated bush people living somewhere in nowhere africa would consider most of our western technology to be "Magical," Arthur C. Clark says that the more advanced technology is the more "magical" it appears... people who aren't all that aware of the potentials and capabilities of the human mind refer to manifestation or actualization of Will as something "Magical" "Miraculous" or just plane coincidental.


Edited by LUCIFERIFIC (03/19/08 09:16 PM)
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#5963 - 03/19/08 10:37 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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#5964 - 03/19/08 10:40 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Isaak w shipley]
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sorry mis spelled your beautiful name lucierific
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#6141 - 03/21/08 11:23 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Isaak w shipley]
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 Originally Posted By: Isaak w shipley
sorry mis spelled your beautiful name lucierific
Its ok Isaak. I still look beautiful no matter how you spell it \:\) You're very sweet.

~Kayla

P.S. You spelled it wrong again. But its ok Isaak, we'll learn your ABC together.
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#6166 - 03/22/08 02:09 AM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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Hmm for some reason I read that as channeling your Wii, I thought it was some new console game.
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#6230 - 03/23/08 04:59 AM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: rubaestellae]
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I thought the whole point of using a strong emotion in ritual was a sort of will channeling.
But indeed I am foot to foot with Luciferific in belief that decision making and ones actions as well will decide what force your will can have in the coporeal realm. I may have a good recource on decision making. But I think that your own seeking should be a primary goal.
I will give you the idea that there is good information on control of ones life out there other than simple self help. But psychological things.

Now if you mean channeling energy instead of mere wishing.
That is to be discovered both in ones research of human energy fields, meditation, and again, rituals. Mostly having to do with projecting. Maybe look up some Tai Chi.
Think of a wand or athame...Then make your hand and eyes a tool for spiritual growth.
Mind/Heart: Corporeal engines
Hands and eyes: Tools of corporeal and etherical and that which flows between.
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#6686 - 03/30/08 01:05 AM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help ..? [Re: PigFeeder]
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Pigfeeder,

We all learn from others. Here are some lessons on the subject from some truely gifted thinkers. Do with them as you will.


A lesson from Ouspensky…

The first thing you must realize is that you do not have a will.

Having a will requires self consciousness. We only remember what we experience when we are conscious of the self.

Having self consciousness requires having a single self, rather than a number of contradictory selves. How many times per day do you make the decision to do something, and then another self decides that you should watch TV instead?

When you perform a Satanic ritual what happens? You become aware of your self and your surroundings. You become into a state of mind where you are able to express the will of the self in charge at the time, and you remember this. When you are able to live each moment of life, as though you are engaged in Satanic ritual, then you have a will. Otherwise you are only reacting to the possibilities presented to you, in the same way that a pinball bounces from one experience to another.

Remember your self, or live by the law of accidents.


A lesson from Lao Tzu….

A few hundred years BCE, an old fellow took two buckets. One he filled with something, and one he filled with nothing. He placed the two buckets next to the path near his home with a sign that read: Do as thou wilt.

One day as he toiled about his land he noticed his neighbour take the empty bucket from the path to his field, where he promptly used it to fill with rocks that he may transport them away from his rows. Not long after the bucket was returned, the old man observed a stranger wandering down the path. The stranger meandered up to the two buckets, picked up the one filled with something and continued his journey down the path. Quickly the old man caught up with the stranger and asked him why he chose the bucket with something in it. The stranger told him that he was just wandering down the path when he saw the two buckets and decided that he may be able to put the something to use when he returned home.

That is when the old man realized that a man with purpose walks away with nothing, while a man without purpose walks away with something.


A lesson from Crowley….

The spirit of man comes from within, whilst the personality of man comes from without.

In order to give life to the will, one must first destroy the personality.

In Liber Samekh we see that the means of destroying the personality and focusing the will can be achieved during orgasm. Create yourself a talisman, and jerk off onto it. At the moment of orgasm when personality is destroyed, focus your will and spunk (Lion-serpent) onto the talisman. To absorb this will back into thy being, simply consume the talisman. To absorb this will into another, simply apply liberally into one of their orifices, (talisman optional).


A lesson from Rand…

In any hour and issue of your life, you are free to think or to evade that effort. But you are not free to escape from your nature, from the fact that reason is your means of survival-so that for you, who are a human being, the question “to be or not to be” is the question “to think or not to think.” A being of volitional consciousness has no automatic course of behaviour.

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#7060 - 04/02/08 04:10 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: PigFeeder]
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 Originally Posted By: PigFeeder
This may or may not be rejected as a post by an idiot but that's okay. I was just wondering, I have spoken to a few individuals on this subject and obtained no real, solid, helpful information. I'm wondering if anyone who knows anything on this subject can help me out? Anything from a link to a page written about it here as a reply. I'm open-minded and haven really been thinking about it a lot. My purpose is to be able to possibly just control my will; is there a way to focus it? Something special you can do to make the wish or plead more powerful. I'm trying to sound smart here but really don't know what I'm talking about. So that's why I'm here.

I read various small pieces of scattered information on the subject and am very interested to find out about more of it.

To make it more clear, I am looking for anyone competant in channeling/using your will, Magics, and other such related subjects. I am hoping I don't killed for this, seeing as I am a new member. I also don't know the community very well. xD I'll see what happens. Thank you everyone who takes there time to help me out on my journey.

I'll share my thoughts on the matter; maybe you'll find them useful, ne?

It'sJustMe said that we are many selves. I agree with him on that point.

All of our different selves exist to benefit us, but ocassionally they disagree with one another. So for me, the key is not to assert one self over another, but to destroy those parts of me which impede my ability to work towards my goals.

If there is a side of you that frequently inhibits the fulfillment of your goals, then deal with. If you don't, how can you truly focus your will? Every fiber of your being must desire the same thing before you can ever consider the desire to be powerful.
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#7086 - 04/02/08 10:31 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Jeseth]
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Someone once turned me on to a fantastic book that helped me to better understand magickal workings. Do yourself a favor and buy Sue Knight's book on Neuro Linguistic Programming. It was a great beginning for me. Robert Greene's book, POWER, was also a fantastic read and very practical. Best of luck to you on your journey...

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#7096 - 04/02/08 11:47 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Octavius]
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Thank you everyone. Especially Octavious and Kayla. You both helped a lot, and Oct, I will definetly be looking into those books. I'm always up for reading and learning more.

In reference It'sJustMe. I too agree with the point that we have many selfs and many sides but, there is a point I disagree on.

 Originally Posted By: It'sJustMe
The first thing you must realize is that you do not have a will.


I personally think I have a will. I want something to happen, that is my will, my desire, my passion, all my thoughts combined in one. I choose my one self that I deem more necessary to acess the situation. It is my will when I choose and am concious of my decision. When I want to go to class tomorrow morning and work afterwards, it is my will to be better that pushes me.

So in my opinion, no matter how many other great people say otherwise, I have my own will.

I do however mean more in the sense of focusing my energy.


By the way, curiousity has me. I think but I may be wrong I heard of something like a trance? Maybe called a trance? I forget where I saw it, but I think it may be relevant to an OBE?
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#7276 - 04/05/08 11:03 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: PigFeeder]
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Perhaps you want something a little more doable and a little less conceptual?

When it is dark light a candle and, once comfortable focus on the candle for as long as possible. As you get some experience try to avoid blinking for extended periods.

At a later time, while focussing on the candle flame, imagine your intensity of focus as an almost physical force, and use this sense of force to will the candle to move.

The point of the exercise is to improve concentration, focus and intent.

Another variation, instead of a flame is a dot inside an equalateral triangle.

spend a reasonable amount of time on this exercise each day and I can assure you you will strengthen those will muscles.

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#7292 - 04/06/08 04:50 AM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Xutech]
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I really like your post Xutech. I think it's great to see a helpful 'verb' post.

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#7300 - 04/06/08 08:46 AM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Yes thank you Xutech, Kayla pm'ed me a site with similar ideas. And I have been practicing and working on it everyday. I think it firstly focuses on opening the third eye. I'm really interested so I've been working on it.
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#7312 - 04/06/08 01:37 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Xutech]
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 Originally Posted By: Xutech
Perhaps you want something a little more doable and a little less conceptual?

When it is dark light a candle and, once comfortable focus on the candle for as long as possible. As you get some experience try to avoid blinking for extended periods.

At a later time, while focussing on the candle flame, imagine your intensity of focus as an almost physical force, and use this sense of force to will the candle to move.

The point of the exercise is to improve concentration, focus and intent.

Another variation, instead of a flame is a dot inside an equalateral triangle.

spend a reasonable amount of time on this exercise each day and I can assure you you will strengthen those will muscles.


Y'know, this seems perfect for myself. I think I'm gonna have to try this method out at some point. Even if this may have been advice for PigFeeder, I think you for sharing this with the community. I may end up benefiting from this....
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#7313 - 04/06/08 01:45 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: PigFeeder]
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No easy way around it, but the best way to improve your will is to exercise it. Apply yourself to some particularly demanding task -- mental, or physical (ideally both) and stick at it, no matter what.

Take up hill running, rock climbing, a high-level martial art, become fluent in a foreign language, join a debating club, etc. It depends on your interests, what things you find most challenging, and what resources you have available -- but the idea is to pick something which will test your will-power to breaking point.

If you're thinking to yourself "Gee, this sounds like hard work!", then you're on the right track!

Stag

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#7314 - 04/06/08 01:51 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Stag]
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 Originally Posted By: Stag
No easy way around it, but the best way to improve your will is to exercise it. Apply yourself to some particularly demanding task -- mental, or physical (ideally both) and stick at it, no matter what.

Take up hill running, rock climbing, a high-level martial art, become fluent in a foreign language, join the debating society, etc. It depends on your interests, what things you find most challenging, and what resources you have available -- but the idea is to pick something which will test your will-power to breaking point.

If your thinking to yourself "Gee, this sounds like hard work!", then you're on the right track!

Stag
I love your suggestion Stag. Thats really "ONA-ish" of you! The Order of Nine Angles have these "Ordeal" they put their initiates thru like living alone in the forest for three months, and one of them is putting on a 50 pound backpack and jogging a 300 mile marathon...

This build not only stamina and character, but also strengthens Will Power and determination, and tunes yourself into - Yourself and your potential to become more than what you are.

There are very real 'satanic' applications to your suggestion.

\:\) kayla
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#7322 - 04/06/08 03:54 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: PigFeeder]
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 Originally Posted By: PigFeeder
Yes thank you Xutech, Kayla pm'ed me a site with similar ideas. And I have been practicing and working on it everyday. I think it firstly focuses on opening the third eye. I'm really interested so I've been working on it.

Salutations one and all from the UK.. have been reading all posts on his subject with interest. PigFeeder mentioned above about s a few sites that Kayla directed them to for a few exercises.. would really like to know these sites.
MAny thanks
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#7323 - 04/06/08 03:57 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: DistroyA]
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Well yes, I asked for people to share so that I can learn. But this is a public forum and any informaton shared here is for anyone else who wishes to take away from here. God luck Distroya, let me know how things turn out.
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#7330 - 04/06/08 05:01 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: BaphNoir]
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 Originally Posted By: BaphNoir
 Originally Posted By: PigFeeder
Yes thank you Xutech, Kayla pm'ed me a site with similar ideas. And I have been practicing and working on it everyday. I think it firstly focuses on opening the third eye. I'm really interested so I've been working on it.

Salutations one and all from the UK.. have been reading all posts on his subject with interest. PigFeeder mentioned above about s a few sites that Kayla directed them to for a few exercises.. would really like to know these sites.
MAny thanks
MArc


No, its a secret site... I'll PM you the exercise. Its not a spectacular supersecret occult exercise, but with practice and patients, results happen... as with anything.

Kayla
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#7343 - 04/06/08 09:26 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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I found that painting on the circle of magick is also a good channel also.Some people do not have the luxury of painting inside their rooms of solitude,but for me with the stonefloor,I
realized that not only by hanging paintings,and channeling,but using my cold floor as a work of art for astral traveling.Painting 5stars on the floor,with the earth and soon to be planets,and more symbols,it's very good to induce the magickal trance and the different colors of the pentacles,red for
strenth,healing,sexual and soul fire properties,green for luck,money,materialism,blue for occult wisdom and knowlege and spiritual conquest,just like using the candles for basics of magick,along with the same colors of the elements of mother moon,spirit,air,earth,fire,water,with more symbols to come about the astral planets of energy for my studio where I spend alot of solitude in painting,astral projection,and rites of passage.I found that the candles with abstract art and pentacles of the different colors of energy all around,you become centered very well.Able to lift your will,strenth,and inner-powers,along with the creative daydreams.Channeling your will is very important.To assist you need the right tools of the trade.I found that I will never go back to simple magick,I have graduated to the master-game-paying level.The sage for cleansing,The allspice for dreams,protection,along with stones that are very good for channels also.

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#7362 - 04/07/08 02:40 AM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Isaak w shipley]
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Thanks for the response!

I think Stag's suggestion is a very good one.

I know that when I've experienced a low point in my life, looking at the immensity of nature gave me back a feeling of purpose and direction.

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#7388 - 04/07/08 01:52 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Stag]
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 Originally Posted By: Stag
No easy way around it, but the best way to improve your will is to exercise it. Apply yourself to some particularly demanding task -- mental, or physical (ideally both) and stick at it, no matter what.

Take up hill running, rock climbing, a high-level martial art, become fluent in a foreign language, join a debating club, etc. It depends on your interests, what things you find most challenging, and what resources you have available -- but the idea is to pick something which will test your will-power to breaking point.

If you're thinking to yourself "Gee, this sounds like hard work!", then you're on the right track!

Stag


When you say mentally and/or physically challenging tasks, would this include, say, weight training for example? I'm just wondering, as I keep meaning to do something to help improve my fitness, but I never get round to doing so. If this exercise would help, all the more reason to do it.
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#7390 - 04/07/08 02:46 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: DistroyA]
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When you say mentally and/or physically challenging tasks, would this include, say, weight training for example?

Of course. If getting your ass down the gym to pump some iron is something you have difficulty with -- and judging by your comment it seems that it is, then entering into a serious exercise regime would fit the bill rather well.

The difficulty with this sort of gym-training is being able to set yourself realistic, but challenging goals. The temptation to coast at a comfortable or mediocre level, whilst convincing yourself you're 'training' will be significant -- which, of course, is the whole point of the exercise.

It might be worth joining a group, or getting a trainer, just so as you can get some feedback on your progress.

Stag

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#7391 - 04/07/08 03:28 PM Re: Satanic Magics and Channeling Your Will? Help [Re: Stag]
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 Originally Posted By: Stag
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When you say mentally and/or physically challenging tasks, would this include, say, weight training for example?

Of course. If getting your ass down the gym to pump some iron is something you have difficulty with -- and judging by your comment it seems that it is, then entering into a serious exercise regime would fit the bill rather well.

The difficulty with this sort of gym-training is being able to set yourself realistic, but challenging goals. The temptation to coast at a comfortable or mediocre level, whilst convincing yourself you're 'training' will be significant -- which, of course, is the whole point of the exercise.

It might be worth joining a group, or getting a trainer, just so as you can get some feedback on your progress.

Stag

Well, I can't really afford to go to the gym to be honest, but I have some weights knocking around the house, so I should imagine that'll be sufficient enough.

I'll see what I can do. Thanks anyway. \:\)
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