#17216 - 12/30/08 06:07 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Fist
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Clearly we are in danger of turning the next three pages into yet ANOTHER useless thread on Eugenics.
I've been reading through some of his works, which I could track online...
Again, don't do this. Anyone interested in Eugenics, Beyondism, or elitism in general should read this book. The whole book. Then, come back and write a new thread on you impressions. I really feel it is pointless to argue with anyone on Eugenics because very few people understand the subject matter. Everyone's thinking is constipated with years of Secular Humanism's revealed knowledge.
Unfortunately, most people don't just how programmed they are. Few people possess any truly 'original' thoughts. Mostly they operate on a set of programing instructions without any consideration as to where they got these ideas in the first place!
AGAIN, Cattell approaches Eugenics from a purely SCIENTIFIC point of view. The way many people approach 'race' you would think they would also be worried about feelings of a cancer cell.
...some of his ideas are nice -but not that original...
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And again, this is the sort of programing I am talking about. Maybe his ideas are original. He was born in 1905. He wrote his first book in 1930. The APA (google it) gave him a lifetime achievement award in the early 90's. He was an extremely prolific scientist and writer. Given his age, he would have lived through the heyday of the Eugenics movement in Europe and the US.
...there is a point that one has to conclude that idealism equals crap in all cases...
No. It is a goal. Nietzsche, Rand, Jefferson, LaVey all proclaimed idealized philosophies. The LHP is an azimuth, a direction, an approach to life and living. It does not end with specific destination - nor does life.
If you live your life looking for 'The Answer' you will be sorely disappointed.
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I am the Devil and I am here to do the Devil's work.
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#17218 - 12/30/08 06:17 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Diavolo
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I have been reading through most of his other book upon it: A New Morality from Science: Beyondism. At least most of what was online, sadly, not all chapters were shared.
What I have against Beyondism isn't something specific against him, it's what I have against idealism and indeed, I don't think we should debate it fully in this thread. In short, there is egocentrism and there is idealism, they're both at the opposing side of the spectrum. Then you got compassion and use. For an egocentric, compassion and use are limited to the self, for the idealist, use is a manner to serve his compassion which is not only about the self, but also about everything outside the egocentric capsule. In short, idealism is wasting compassion on changing things that have very little to do with the self. One should realize that change is nothing but a waste when it leaves the egocentric perspective. Beyondism is identical to socialism in this, all about compassion beyond the self.
D.
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#17811 - 01/08/09 04:59 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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ceruleansteel
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Ah yes...His books are THE books to own...and he lives in my state just a few hours away from me. I actually feel privileged to say that.
He doesn't just make bombs, though. Be fair. He can also teach you how to build your own guns, hide shit, hand to hand, a little this and that about poison, and loads of fun things to do with the kiddoes...the list is really almost endless.
The bombs are great though. My favorite is the kit-kat bar bomb.
Followed closely by the couch-bomb.
You can bittorrent almost all of his books...or you can hit me up for an e-version if you like. I think, however, that if anyone deserves to NOT be cheated out of whatever he's charging for his stuff these days, it's him.
Edited by ceruleansteel (01/08/09 05:02 AM)
Edit Reason: just had more to say.
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#18174 - 01/14/09 12:41 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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rich
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One book I feel has some worthwhile qualities that has not been mentioned thus far is “Rhinoceros” by Eugene Ionesco.
It's actually a play on the perils of social conformism or “herdism”-in particular the rise of Fascism. The play explores the various social and cultural reasons in which individuals become enamoured by a particular ideal or philosophy; which all takes place in a provincial town.
Without giving too much away, the behaviour and physical appearance of the townsfolk change-in the end they all become alike aside from the unlikely hero (A chap called Berenger).
If anyone else has read this I'd be interested to hear their thoughts on it.
Rich
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#21803 - 03/09/09 05:44 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Rasha
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I am not sure if this book has been mentioned yet. The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene is a fantastic book that I have been studying and applying for years. The book is falling apart from use. I also downloaded the audio book, which is helpful to use if you are on the go.
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#21919 - 03/12/09 01:34 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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miriam
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This has been a most enlightening thread. I do have a few of my own favorites to add to this illustrious mix:
1) Huysmans- A rebours, and La bas
Huysmans is the greatest author of the decadent movement, and his works display a characteristic opulence that goes nowhere, that stifles the mind and soul, and describes in essence the very nightmare we have created through our untold desires.
2) De Sade- Justine
De Sade himself is as much a monument to Satanic literature as his writings. Also consider renting Salo, based off of 120 Days of Sodom.
3) Sacher-Masoch- Venus in Furs
In direct opposition to De Sade, Masoch relinquished his self control in favor of being dominated. This would hardly seem to follow LHP principles, however, in a most admirable postmodern way, Masoch shows us that allowing others to dominate and control us is the fruition of our own sick desires, hence fulfilling his own will. Food for thought, no?
4) Baudelaire- Les fleurs du mal
Need I say more?
5) J. Cowper Powys- Wolf Solent
Powys has an irresistible was of weaving Occultism into his fiction. He is loosely connected with Crowley along with others that came out of (some abandoning) the Hermetic/Esoteric philosophies- most notably Yeats, Steiner, and Regardie.
6) Walter de la Mare- selected poems
I stand my ground. The man's poetry is creepy. And I like it. Therefore is goes on the list.
7) Rudolf Steiner- Evil, Occult Science, and The Influences of Lucifer and Ahriman
Although Steiner is more typically Christic philosopher, I find these works illuminating.
8) Mark Twain- The Mysterious Stranger
Unfinished novels are always the most enlightening. Twain had many fanciful and witty ideas about Satan,
9) Goethe- Faust
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#22191 - 03/18/09 05:26 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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ceruleansteel
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I would recommend Twain to anyone willing to explore a lighted path of the left-hand course. I truly believe that the bans on his book have nothing to do with the "N-word" and everything to do with the fact that a little deeper exploration of his writings enlightens one to a less-than-christian view on life. Twain - to me - was a huge influence in my younger years.
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#22470 - 03/24/09 11:13 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Diavolo
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I think I mentioned them before but it could have been on the previous board, I didn't find them in this post.
Anyhow:
Three books that should be on the list or shelf of any 'advanced' satanist. Fill in advanced however you feel. You're ready when you're ready.
D.
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