#6142 - 03/21/08 11:59 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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These are excellent books and authors. May I add Robert Anton Wilson; and the old school humanist cats like David Hume... maybe even J.R. "Bob" Dobbs to the mix?
I like Rand and her "Objectivism."
She's a bit of a nut thoe. Most women in the book writing business or philosophical arena don't fair as well as she does. If so we'd have more female prophets and religious figure head.
I suspect she's either a hermaphrodite like Joan of Arc was or she has this Enlarged Left Brain Syndrom... or she's just real butch like Melissa Ethridge is. Either way I've given her the coveted Honorary Man Award for her accomplishments. And you can't accuse me of being sexist either, because I am her gender kindred. A sell out to my gender maybe, but not sexist.
I also think she misnamed or misunderstood her own philosophy by calling it "Objectivism."
""Reality is 10 percent Objective, and 90 percent Subjective."" Robert Anton Wilson.
Let me share with you why I think Objectivism is wrongly named and instead should be called "Subjectivism."
By "Objective" I understand it to mean uninterpreted tangible things as they are before the human mind takes it and conceptualizes it subjectively with his thinking and reasoning process.
For example the Sun. Objectively its just a Sun- a round thing in the sky that shines and is hot. Thats it. Everything else we know about it (the other 90 percent) or believe it to be, comes from a subjective process of thinking, reasoning, and observation. You can't observe, conceive, or ponder on Objective Reality without first sticking it into your subjective mind to use your subjective ideas, opinions, and intuition to add gravy to it or understand it.
If Objectivism praises and puts objective reality on a divine pedastool, than Objectivism is missing out on the other 90 percent of reality... and that is weak.
Thankfully Anton LaVey balanced this imbalance with Niezsche's Existentialism. I know some people will argue and say that Nietzsche wasn't an Existentialist, but many consider him to be the father of it.
In my opinion the two don't even mix right. In my mind Objectivism says: "hey, look at things objectively with reason, thats really important, because thats what makes humankind different from animals." Whereas Existentialism says: "Who gives a shit? We Exist and thats all that matters, enjoy it while its last and don't spend your time interpreting shit."
Thats just my two cents on Rand.
~Kayla
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#6169 - 03/22/08 02:41 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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For existentialism, check out 'The Outsider' by Albert Camus and 'Nausea' by Jean-Paul Sartre. A stark contrast to the religious RHP...
If it's ancient philosophy you're after, forget about Plato.
Take a look at Epicurus - his individualistic, balanced hedonism, and materialistic worldview very close to full-blown Atheism, make Epicureanism quite interesting for the modern Satanist (though naturally, Nietzsche wasn't keen on all its teachings). The Sophists were also interesting (and in some ways a forerunner of postmodern relativism), as were the Cynics and Stoics.
Most modern philosophy has its roots in Hellenism - for example, there are strong Stoic and Epicurean threads in David Hume's philosophy (in addition to its throwback to the Greek Sceptics).
In terms of the LHP/RHP distinction, it can be said that the RHP is characterised by a focus on the collective, morality, altruism and dogma; while the LHP is characterised by individualism, autonomy and freethought.
Taoism seems the most LHP-like of Eastern philosophies (although its western cousins such as Epicureanism and the Sophists are more individualistic).
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#9932 - 06/30/08 01:10 AM
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Nice reading list Fist. I wanted to second all of that Nietzsche and Machiavelli. I think I have read just about half of your list and indeed benefited from it greatly.
I think I had posted this on some other thread (apologies) but heregoes anyway:
"Human, All-Too-Human" by Nietzsche (contains most of his ideas in prototype, wonderfully sarcastic about human foibles)
"Demian" by Hermann Hesse (will take you down with it)
"Frankenstein" by Mary Shelley (self again all, existence of rejection, science triumphant over nature, rebellion against creator)
"The Sea Wolf" by Jack London (working-class ubermensch vs. intellectual softie, finding a balance between the two)
Some excellent applied psychology...
"Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell
"Getting Past No" by William Ury
I don't value political heresy for its own sake - I'd rather my political ideas become more standard and prominent, so we could actually put them into practice, but anyway...
"Lenin: Building the Party" by Tony Cliff
aka "how-to manual for revolution and all types of political faction fighting," I'd say it rivals The Prince in its instructiveness
"Catechism of a Revolutionist" by Sergei Nechaev
"God and the State" by Mikhail Bakunin
(the last two are easily available online)
"A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn
the finest subverted of the official American narrative
"The Gendered Society" by Michael Kimmel
a fine subverter, possibly, of your own identity
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#9937 - 06/30/08 08:20 AM
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"Lenin: Building the Party" by Tony Cliff
aka "how-to manual for revolution and all types of political faction fighting," I'd say it rivals The Prince in its instructiveness
This assumes a traveller of the LHP has a use for building a political party of the communist model. Given that the whole body of communist thought seeks to subvert the individual through state mandated white light RHP programs, the LHP practitioner has little need for it. "The Prince" seeks to aid the individual in consolidating his own personal power.
"A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn
the finest subverted of the official American narrative
In some circles we call this 'revisionist history.' A worthless book for America hating leftists who lack the intellectual honesty to actually move to a true 'workers paradise' like Cuba, China, or North Korea.
"The Gendered Society" by Michael Kimmel
a fine subverter, possibly, of your own identity
Again, more leftist nonsense. One of the great victories of the now defunct USSR is that it did succeed in subverting American culture and infiltrating the Academy. This clap-trap has emasculated much of West, has led to the destruction of traditional families, and caused a backlash in the form a new sort of nihilism and misogyny that seem to be the new pop-culture norm.
The world seems to be full of vandals and hooligans who justify their crimes by calling them 'revolutionary.'
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#9946 - 06/30/08 01:56 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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I wouldn't really argue over book recommendations, Fist, but you challenged if they even fit the category of LHP itself. I will try to demonstrate that they might be useful for LHPers.
(1) Building the Party
I'm surprised you turn your nose up at Building the Party so quickly. The Marxist/Leninist tradition which wrote that book is informed by Machiavelli himself. Marx called Machiavelli one of the giants of the Enlightenment. Even if you don't agree with the ends of a Leninist party, you might pick up something from its methods. Marx and Lenin sat around reading Karl Von Clausewitz, the military scientist. I've read plenty about the Nazi rise to power, not to achieve fascism but to see if there were any tactical successes I could pick up.
As I posted in the ONA thread, do not confuse socialism and Stalinism. Yes, Stalinists crush individuality, which I see as inseparable from collective working-class confidence and consciousness - at least for workers.
The working class, though consisting of individuals, can be spoken of collectively. For the worker, the only path to self-expansion and personal development must necessarily be in cooperation with other workers, against owners - either that or they can have rich uncles who buy them out of wage-slavery. I have no such luck. Marx called for "an association in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all." Isn't the Marxist call to turn the working class into a self-conscious class, a class for-itself, the epitome of the left hand path? It reminds me of the Temple of Set's idea of xeper, "I have come into being." Marxism is trying to accomplish just that on a global scale, for the whole human population.
Sorry, Fist. The right wing does not have a monopoly on libertarian populist sentiments. Sometimes I feel like people use the word "individualist" when all they really mean is "independent and assertive." Those traits can also describe collective working class activity, and not to the detriments of the individuals in that movement, but aiding their *personal* expansion.
(2) People's History
You call it revisionist history. I call most history taught in American public schools somewhat revisionist.
To quote the first chapter of the book itself, whose author I had the pleasure to have dinner with:
"It is not that the historian can avoid emphasis of some facts and not of others. This is as natural to him as to the mapmaker, who, in order to produce a usable drawing for practical purposes, must first flatten and distort the shape of the earth...
My argument cannot be against selection, simplification, emphasis...but the historian's distortion is more than technical, it is ideogical; it is released into a world of contending interests, where any chosen emphasis supports (whether the historian means to or not) some kind of interest, whether economic or political or racial or national or sexual."
He goes on to explain that he chooses to that most public school history focuses on a "few great men," lots of war, and lots of America, whereas history can be told - not distorting anything - instead with an emphasis on working class and oppressed struggle.
Again, Cuba, China, North Korea, none of these interest me, except as one more state to see overthrown. They are places in which power is out of the hands of the working class. They call themselves Marxist in order to better control people, much in the way that the USA calls itself the center of the free world to better control people. I am staying right here and focusing my efforts in the USA, because if the USA goes socialist it will be able to support working-class revolt the world over, a position that Russia was not in from 1917 to 1927.
(3) The Gendered Society
To hell with the traditional family. In Latin as used in Rome, "famulus" meant domestic slave, and "familia" meant the collective slaves that a man owned, and his women and biological offspring were lumped into that category, since they were seen as property as well. The head of the family also had the power of life and death over his property - or, his family - or...jee, family and property were the same thing.
Isn't that the greatest travesty against all instincts to freedom? Freedom being the defining characteristic of the LHP to me. How much more RHP can you get than family? Freedom is demonic, dangerous, and uncontrollable. It is naturally disruptive and toxic to traditional structures - and it creates new and better ones.
As far as the modern day, I do not care whatsoever about a unit of economic dependence. Children should be able to associate with whomever they choose and not be trapped and stifled within one miniscule set of influences called their family. It takes a whole village to raise a child, and the development of the nuclear family can be seen as the mirror of privatization (externalize all social problems and responsibilities onto isolated individuals) within the domestic sphere. We already have public schools, which place all children in one institutionalized center. Why not just go all the way and recognize that life itself in any modern society functions according to institutionalized centers, and use these for mass distribution and liberation (there's no such thing as a free hungry person) instead of keeping people in check?
I am that very leftist infiltrating the Academy that all the McCarthyists have their panties in a wad about.
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#10904 - 08/22/08 07:29 PM
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I can't believe I didn't think of these earlier:
Lysander Spooner. He was the original American anarchist. Most every clown in a black hooded sweatshirt thinks they know what anarchy is all about. This guy is the real deal. His essays called "No Treason" are the most popular. I personally would start on his essays on poverty and why we have it. Most of his work can be found online here:
http://www.lysanderspooner.org
Kurt Saxon. However did I forget him?! He is actually a true bomb throwing anarchist in the sense that he really makes bombs. Better still, he is actually still alive. You can even talk to him on the phone. He is quite an affable guy. However, he is old, has lived a very full life, and has a genius IQ. So, if you do plan to talk to him you should have your act in order.
Among other things, he invented the term "survivalism", has been a congressional witness, and for a while was in LaVey's circle of strangeness during the church's heyday.
This Wiki bio is reasonably good:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Saxon
His books on practical low tech living (to include his more 'explosive' works) are invaluable to any student of the LHP. But, it is his vitriolic social commentary that I truly love. Here is a more resent sample:
THE U.S. IS TERMINAL
By Kurt Saxon
Our species has become a plague on the land. Worldwide, we have out-bred the carrying capacities of our environments and our socioeconomic systems. Our country is swamped with morons and degenerates. The Mexican border has become a huge anus through which Mexico excretes its waste matter. There are at least eight million Muslims here, all too many of which, feel commanded to destroy us.
Around 1850 our species reached one billion. By 1930 it doubled to two billion and by 1975, four billion. Today it is six and a half billion and climbing.
U.S. population was just under 100 million in1900. Today it is 300 million, 100 million non-white.
The insane middle-east war against Islam is further ruining our economy.
Overpopulation and down-breeding has reduced the level of reasoning of the average human to that of a baboon. A terrible culling is due, or overdue, of more than 50% of our population who will die of starvation, disease and/or violence.
I will illustrate: A man feels poorly and goes to his doctor. The doctor tells him he has a spreading cancer and is overweight and getting fatter. He asks the doctor, "Can't you cut out the cancer and help me lose weight?" The doctor answers, "Of course not. Your cancer cells and your fat cells have as much right to live as do your normal cells."
You would consider that doctor to be insane. But isn't that the same attitude as our politicians, and, unfortunately, most of our politically correct fellow citizens express? People who were born to no purpose and are a social liability, at best, will be culled as a matter course. Those who accept them as simply a part of the scheme of things, will be a part of an indiscriminate culling which will carry off both worthwhile and worthless.
Our elected officials are corrupt and incompetent. No improvement is possible, short of the massive culling. The culling will remove the parasites, predators, perverts and also the Liberals, who not only allowed, but encouraged society's dregs to survive and multiply.
Your only hope lies in the knowledge of our past, in preparing to save yourself and your loved ones. Only the self-sufficiency of our ancestors will help you to create a life-support system and also enable you to defend your own against all comers.
END.....
This and more, to include his practical work, can be found at:
http://www.kurtsaxon.com
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#10908 - 08/22/08 09:47 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Seti 352
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Here's a few suggestions:
1. Wilson, Robert Anton, Cosmic Trigger I: The Final Secret of the Illuminati
2. Hoffer, Eric. The True Believer
3. Nietzsche, Friedrich. The Will To Power
4. Plato. The Republic
5. Sagan, Carl. The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
6. DuQuette, Lon Milo. The Magick of Aleister Crowley: A Handbook of the Rituals of Thelema
(One of the best introductions to Thelema in my opinion)
7. Ford, Michael W. Luciferian Witchcraft
8. Carroll, Peter J. Liber Kaos.
9. Leary, Timothy and Michael Horowitz, Vicki Marshall.Chaos and Cyber Culture.
10. Wilson, Robert Anton.Everything Is Under Control
11. Kaku, Michio. Physics of the Impossible.
12. Regardie, Israel. The Eye in the Triangle
13. Nikolas Schreck, Zeena Schreck. Demons of the Flesh: The Complete Guide to Left-Hand Path Sex Magic
14. Webb, Don. Seven Faces of Darkness: Practical Typhonian Magic
15. Ford, Michael W. The Bible of the Adversary
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#10927 - 08/23/08 11:53 AM
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Once you've figured out how to make the magic of the Simon Necronomicon work,it's some of the scariest ^$# you've seen.But anyway if your like me,and think your probably pretty much F%$#ed
in the afterlife,it's not a safe suggestion,but ya know how they say Kthulu's Dead,But Dreaming.Anyway memorise just the simple lines of the spells for evoking the 50 spirits of Marduk,and try it in your sleep.I'd start with the nicer ones.But if you like the idea of evoking undead cannibals,the gates of absolute darkness and things that go from people that are kinda just watching you then turning into Insectoid Abominations.than this book is for you.just so you know the spells'll work,but they wont show you themselves at first.Im not telling you who these ones are but one has brown hair all over its body,huminoid shaped the first time i saw this one it was the most frieghtning sight i've seen,and this one was to be the kindest.the other one came as a old kinda with an off greyish looking skin,he told me"I just wanna show you something"after he said that his face changed from that of an old man to a black insectoid face with like 6 blood red eyes like that of a spider.So far both of these seemeed to me to be vampiric,after seeing these I dont think theres any reason to persue this book any further.It seemed like they were giving me a warning.Don't attemp this if your not already doomed,I think they can only see you in the Dream,Spirit world.I'd rather watch this as a movie.Its kinda messed up cause this is like the first Occult book the aspiring occultist'll pick up.For the first hour after I woke up something kept stomping around my apartment and banging on the walls,and it felt like someone was stabbing me in the side for like half hour,But on a positive note the book of entrance seems to be the safest part of the book.They say in the translation of the "Al Azif" your not doomed till you see there faces.So if you havn't seen them yet don't do it.I think I figured out were lovecraft got his ideas.
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#10933 - 08/23/08 12:52 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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i didnt read the necronomicon before i fell asleep.I memorized most of it,and chanted a summoning formula while i was asleep,what i mean is its called lucid dreaming,when you actually know your asleep,Ive been summoning the dead in this way for the last 6 years,havnt had the best time but the knowledge is there,any way ive probably read about 50 different books on the occult,specifically diferent forms and types of incantations to talk with different deities.I only pick out the stuff that works for me.the true books on the occult dont just read from right to left top to bottom,theyll give you hints to figure them out.and if yu cant there probably not meant for you anyway.Im glad your skeptical,that means you have nothing to worry about.heres an example out of Konstantinos Nocturnicon,necromancy,Hear me lord Hades,seek not to match wits with me i only seek an audience of _______ that _______ may come forth from the abyss and great me as my brother and friend..this ones perfectly safe to do.you have to work on the abuility to realize your asleep.it takes practice use a name of a friend and sure enough.ive even talked with nm. im not saying anymore
believe me or dont people should do some research before they comment.
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#10939 - 08/23/08 01:11 PM
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in Luciferian witchcraft theres a formula for developing charged toad bones.Michael Ford even says that he will try to convince you to burie the bones in a graveyard,but your not supposed to.Ive seen him and he got pretty pissed i didnt believe i was suppose to burie it that way.I was told its to get it charged.If you want to call him try calling him Lord Set.He likes that.
I'd more like to call someone like that king of donkeys. Everyone who is into this philosophy is supposed to make up it's own mind. Following someone without thinking for yourself to me is one of the dumbest things you can do. It lacks intelligence and individuality.
Symbol in the left corner? Lack of arcane knowledge?
The symbol is just a baphomet and can be interpreted in many different ways. And about the arcane knowledge; I prefer to think and search myself instead of waiting for some invisible deity decides to give me information when I beg for it.
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#10940 - 08/23/08 01:15 PM
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i didnt mean to sound antagonistic its just ive been studying this for like 8 years and see results eventualle im going to publish my ownn book.but i dont want to publish it for the general public.studying the occultphilosophy and the occult is all I do .id like to be in europe you have a greater access to these booksespecially in germany.im not blogging anymore i was making a sugestion that isnt written in the book.Satanism is the religion and beliefs of the diverse.Not the mundane.Im starting a boycott on Belgian waffles.He doesnt even know Set's the egeptian form of the name satan.
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#10942 - 08/23/08 02:00 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Seti 352
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One of the purposes of this this thread is to give the traveller of the LHP some references.
A lot of the 'magical' text listed by some of you really don't serve the purpose.
Before one looks to explore various types of magic, one needs to steep himself in his own identity and beliefs. Most, supposed magical texts are little more than cheesy 'how to' manuals that sell the snake oil of giving power to the powerless. Even Micheal Ford's work falls into this category. While Ford himself, as a person, knows how to wield his own personal power, I really doubt you are going to learn much from his books. Of course, Ford does get paid for it!
Crowley goes into some detail of what the Black Brother needs to do before trying to develop his own power. LaVey, in several essays, points out that most 'magicians' are little more than your typical boardwalk carny in better clothes.
Before bothering with these sorts of manuals, the true traveller needs to explore the more generalized philosophy of the path he is on and should comport himself accordingly. Chanting to yourself with candles in the dark is little more than just that.
To each their own, I suppose. However, it was my understanding that this thread was designed to give people a list of recommended books from a variety of sources that are pertinent to the Left Hand Path. I recognize that you chose to not include occult books in your list. I was unaware that this was mandatory, but rather it reflected your personal choice in your post.
My own purpose was to suggest a wide variety of different interpretations of the Left Hand Path. Obviously, this included Satanic, Luciferian, Setian and Thelemic sources. My own belief is that by exposure to a wide assortment of texts, a person will come to their own conclusions.
As for Michael Ford's works, personally I enjoy & have benefited from them a great deal. I see no purpose in denigrating his books simply because you don't agree with him. If you don't agree with him, don't read him anymore. 
That said, heres a few more books from the purely philosophical arena. All are philosophical classics.
Kant, Immanuel. Groundwork of Metaphysic of Morals
Kant, Immanuel. Critique of Pure Reason
Mill, John Stuart. On Liberty
Aristotle Nicomachean Ethics
Schopenhauer, Arthur. The World as Will and Idea.
Hume, David. Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion
Descartes, Rene. Meditations Towards First Philosophy
Hobbes, Thomas. Leviathan
Aurelius, Marcus. Meditations
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#10949 - 08/23/08 03:25 PM
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Fist,
You have a very valid point. Before any occult explorations are done, one should have a firm grasp of reality & be fairly well read in a variety of areas.(Especially science.) Sorry I misunderstood where you were coming from. The joys of internet communication, eh? lol
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#10966 - 08/24/08 12:51 AM
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i didnt mean to sound antagonistic its just ive been studying this for like 8 years and see results eventualle im going to publish my ownn book.but i dont want to publish it for the general public.studying the occultphilosophy and the occult is all I do .id like to be in europe you have a greater access to these booksespecially in germany.im not blogging anymore i was making a sugestion that isnt written in the book. Satanism is the religion and beliefs of the diverse.Not the mundane.Im starting a boycott on Belgian waffles.He doesnt even know Set's the egeptian form of the name satan.
Who the fuck is going to publish this butchery of the English language? I hope it's a Chinease publisher. Hell, the magazine I work for, a redneck hot rod mag, requires basic elementary school grammar. Your shit reads like my puke after an all night bender on tequila. Not very appealing.
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#10983 - 08/24/08 08:25 AM
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i like to withdraw some comments i suffer from PTSD cause of an incident in the catholic church.sometimes i go on tangents.
WTF does that have to do with bad spelling and grammar?
Your almost 30 right?
If you are looking for sympathy, you will find it in the dictionary between 'shit' and 'syphilis.'
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#11004 - 08/24/08 08:02 PM
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If you are looking for sympathy, you will find it in the dictionary between 'shit' and 'syphilis.'
I will have to remember that... The lady that taught me to tattoo used to always say "sorry falls between shit and sympathy"...
It's not sympathy I want,but I do need to work on destoying my weaknesses.I'll try to save the blogging for when I havn't been drinking.
Are we bloggers? I thought a blog was more like a diary...
I am so off topic... But saying you were either angry or drunk is nothing but a very simple excuse... Be responsible for what you do if you fuck up learn from it and correct it... Leave the excuses for the children...
The save...
I do not have a specific book to recommend but anything on the life and doings of P.T. Barnum is a must read for one walking this path... So many only remember the eccentrics like Crowley and LaVey forgetting the worldly lessons in the words and actions of P.T. Barnum...
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#11083 - 08/28/08 03:30 AM
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But I'd trust it more if it was the original Latin text.
Euhm,.. I don't know about this but the necronomicon has never been written in latin as far as I can remember. The first necronomicon dates back from Lovecrafts time and if I'm not mistaking it isn't even 100 years ago... Correct me if I'm mistaking here, history of the different kinds of necronomicons need to be a bit cleansed/ revised.
Unless you meant the egyptian book of dead, but that's written with hieroglyphes.
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#13490 - 10/26/08 08:03 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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First I would like to thanks Fist for this good initiative. I'll probably read more and post less in the (near) future.
Thanks for guiding so well the newbies like me Fist 
Wanting to add my little contribution, I recommend Michel Onfray's books.
Unfortunately, I don't think his books are already translated in English. But for those who can read French, I really think it's interresting reading.
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#13634 - 10/29/08 11:17 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Fabiano
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Thanks for the tips, I'll also look in 2nd hand bookstores.
I was looking for a French version of "Atlas Shrugged" but the existing one seems crapy. A new translation should be released in 2009...
I saw the Plato was mentionned above, I'm not sure but to me it's more on the RHP than on the LHP. His concept of "pure Good" is a good basis a "Good God" can be build on.
Am I wrong?
Finaly, a good book on time management looks to me a good support for avoiding to waste one's time.
It helps you defining your goal, building a plan to reach it, and discipline yourself to follow the plan.
Yes, Discipline! It's a way to obey to your own God (YOU!)
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#17204 - 12/30/08 04:47 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Well, in that case fist.
Any books/papers/essays you recommend from this person about this certain subject?
You really have a hard time following along with discussions don't you?
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#17216 - 12/30/08 06:07 PM
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Clearly we are in danger of turning the next three pages into yet ANOTHER useless thread on Eugenics.
I've been reading through some of his works, which I could track online...
Again, don't do this. Anyone interested in Eugenics, Beyondism, or elitism in general should read this book. The whole book. Then, come back and write a new thread on you impressions. I really feel it is pointless to argue with anyone on Eugenics because very few people understand the subject matter. Everyone's thinking is constipated with years of Secular Humanism's revealed knowledge.
Unfortunately, most people don't just how programmed they are. Few people possess any truly 'original' thoughts. Mostly they operate on a set of programing instructions without any consideration as to where they got these ideas in the first place!
AGAIN, Cattell approaches Eugenics from a purely SCIENTIFIC point of view. The way many people approach 'race' you would think they would also be worried about feelings of a cancer cell.
...some of his ideas are nice -but not that original...
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And again, this is the sort of programing I am talking about. Maybe his ideas are original. He was born in 1905. He wrote his first book in 1930. The APA (google it) gave him a lifetime achievement award in the early 90's. He was an extremely prolific scientist and writer. Given his age, he would have lived through the heyday of the Eugenics movement in Europe and the US.
...there is a point that one has to conclude that idealism equals crap in all cases...
No. It is a goal. Nietzsche, Rand, Jefferson, LaVey all proclaimed idealized philosophies. The LHP is an azimuth, a direction, an approach to life and living. It does not end with specific destination - nor does life.
If you live your life looking for 'The Answer' you will be sorely disappointed.
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#17218 - 12/30/08 06:17 PM
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I have been reading through most of his other book upon it: A New Morality from Science: Beyondism. At least most of what was online, sadly, not all chapters were shared.
What I have against Beyondism isn't something specific against him, it's what I have against idealism and indeed, I don't think we should debate it fully in this thread. In short, there is egocentrism and there is idealism, they're both at the opposing side of the spectrum. Then you got compassion and use. For an egocentric, compassion and use are limited to the self, for the idealist, use is a manner to serve his compassion which is not only about the self, but also about everything outside the egocentric capsule. In short, idealism is wasting compassion on changing things that have very little to do with the self. One should realize that change is nothing but a waste when it leaves the egocentric perspective. Beyondism is identical to socialism in this, all about compassion beyond the self.
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#17811 - 01/08/09 04:59 AM
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Ah yes...His books are THE books to own...and he lives in my state just a few hours away from me. I actually feel privileged to say that.
He doesn't just make bombs, though. Be fair. He can also teach you how to build your own guns, hide shit, hand to hand, a little this and that about poison, and loads of fun things to do with the kiddoes...the list is really almost endless.
The bombs are great though. My favorite is the kit-kat bar bomb.
Followed closely by the couch-bomb.
You can bittorrent almost all of his books...or you can hit me up for an e-version if you like. I think, however, that if anyone deserves to NOT be cheated out of whatever he's charging for his stuff these days, it's him.
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#18174 - 01/14/09 12:41 PM
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One book I feel has some worthwhile qualities that has not been mentioned thus far is “Rhinoceros” by Eugene Ionesco.
It's actually a play on the perils of social conformism or “herdism”-in particular the rise of Fascism. The play explores the various social and cultural reasons in which individuals become enamoured by a particular ideal or philosophy; which all takes place in a provincial town.
Without giving too much away, the behaviour and physical appearance of the townsfolk change-in the end they all become alike aside from the unlikely hero (A chap called Berenger).
If anyone else has read this I'd be interested to hear their thoughts on it.
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#21803 - 03/09/09 05:44 PM
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I am not sure if this book has been mentioned yet. The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene is a fantastic book that I have been studying and applying for years. The book is falling apart from use. I also downloaded the audio book, which is helpful to use if you are on the go.
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#21919 - 03/12/09 01:34 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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This has been a most enlightening thread. I do have a few of my own favorites to add to this illustrious mix:
1) Huysmans- A rebours, and La bas
Huysmans is the greatest author of the decadent movement, and his works display a characteristic opulence that goes nowhere, that stifles the mind and soul, and describes in essence the very nightmare we have created through our untold desires.
2) De Sade- Justine
De Sade himself is as much a monument to Satanic literature as his writings. Also consider renting Salo, based off of 120 Days of Sodom.
3) Sacher-Masoch- Venus in Furs
In direct opposition to De Sade, Masoch relinquished his self control in favor of being dominated. This would hardly seem to follow LHP principles, however, in a most admirable postmodern way, Masoch shows us that allowing others to dominate and control us is the fruition of our own sick desires, hence fulfilling his own will. Food for thought, no?
4) Baudelaire- Les fleurs du mal
Need I say more?
5) J. Cowper Powys- Wolf Solent
Powys has an irresistible was of weaving Occultism into his fiction. He is loosely connected with Crowley along with others that came out of (some abandoning) the Hermetic/Esoteric philosophies- most notably Yeats, Steiner, and Regardie.
6) Walter de la Mare- selected poems
I stand my ground. The man's poetry is creepy. And I like it. Therefore is goes on the list.
7) Rudolf Steiner- Evil, Occult Science, and The Influences of Lucifer and Ahriman
Although Steiner is more typically Christic philosopher, I find these works illuminating.
8) Mark Twain- The Mysterious Stranger
Unfinished novels are always the most enlightening. Twain had many fanciful and witty ideas about Satan,
9) Goethe- Faust
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#22191 - 03/18/09 05:26 AM
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I would recommend Twain to anyone willing to explore a lighted path of the left-hand course. I truly believe that the bans on his book have nothing to do with the "N-word" and everything to do with the fact that a little deeper exploration of his writings enlightens one to a less-than-christian view on life. Twain - to me - was a huge influence in my younger years.
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#22470 - 03/24/09 11:13 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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I think I mentioned them before but it could have been on the previous board, I didn't find them in this post.
Anyhow:
Three books that should be on the list or shelf of any 'advanced' satanist. Fill in advanced however you feel. You're ready when you're ready.
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#23425 - 04/18/09 03:21 PM
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Shortly after the Church of Satan was founded, Anton LaVey came up with a reading list for Satanists, which was revised/augmented until about 1970. In 1975 the Temple of Set came up with its own list, incorporating some of the C/S one, which has continued to be fiddled with to the present. While it has been pirated all over the Net, probably the most coherent and reliable place to find it is as Appendix #14 to my Temple of Set, available here.
Category #6 pertains specifically to "Satanism", but as this thread illustrates, literature relevant to the LHP generally overflows into many other categories (which is why we came up with 24  ).
The books in #6 originally selected by Anton are identifiable by his "AL:" comments, while mine are "MA:" and other Setians' are IDd to them.
This list was much more essential in pre-Internet times, since today you can Google any subject and get flooded with information about it. Indeed if you see an interesting book on the list, try Googling its name. For example, there was a recent digression in this thread about the Necronomicon, which HPL noted in personal correspondence that he had modeled after Robert W. Chambers' The King in Yellow, about which there is an excellent site here. Of course the "model" is another "book within a book", the best takeoff on which to date being James Blish's "More Light" (difficult to find, but included herein).
As another example, William Mortensen, whose Command to Look was of key inspiration to Anton and his "Law of the Trapezoid", has a nice website here.
The only word of caution here is that there is so much information available today, on the Net and otherwise, that you run the risk of blobbing into an "armchair occultist". Keep your personal aspirations always in mind, and go after information to refine, strengthen, and correct them.
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#23802 - 04/26/09 05:47 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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While it has been pirated all over the Net, probably the most coherent and reliable place to find it is as Appendix #14 to my Temple of Set, available here.
Maybe I missed it, but was this a link to your reading list? The link seems to go to your list of personal writings and your CV.
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#23979 - 05/01/09 10:42 PM
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While it has been pirated all over the Net, probably the most coherent and reliable place to find it is as Appendix #14 to my Temple of Set, available here. Maybe I missed it, but was this a link to your reading list? The link seems to go to your list of personal writings and your CV.
Yes, the link is to my personal page, and the reading list is one of the Appendices to the Temple of Set ebook which you can download there.
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#26098 - 06/24/09 01:54 AM
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I did a search on Ligotti to see if anyone had mentioned Thomas Ligotti yet. Apparently not.
So, not all his stuff is the best, but there is a particular short story (or novella?) called "The Shadow, The Darkness", which I would like to recommend. I don't want to provide spoilers, but will say that its overall themes seem rather Satanic and very inspiring. Keep an eye out for it; it appears in a collection called Teatro Grotesquo.
Edit: so, looking at Fist's last post here, probably the same criticism about relevance will be extended to my Ligotti plug. However, the "Delete Post" button doesn't seem to work for me, so it is kind of out of my hands.
G.O.D.
Edited by god.over.djinn (06/24/09 02:01 AM)
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#28088 - 08/07/09 06:56 PM
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The Third Chimpanzee which deals with human evolution and our place in relation to our cousins.
Yup, if a non-fiction writer can be categorised as having merit or not according to whether or not they have a significant impact on your worldview, then Dr. Diamond is right up there. I thought Guns, Germs & Steel was even better than Rise & Fall of the Third Chimpanzee.
I also liked Stephen Jay Gould's Life's Grandeur (US title: Full House) for a counter-anthropocentric look at the statistical mechanisms that drive evolution.
Furthermore, entry-level texts on the philosophy of science generally seem geared towards developing the student's critical thinking skills. As such skills also behove the Satanist, the following books may be added to recommendations already given:
- What is this thing called science? by Alan Chalmers
- Sex and Death: An Introduction to Philosophy of Biology by Kim Sterelny & Paul E. Griffiths
Chalmers in particular investigates many competing theories on how science ideally should be conducted, how it is actually conducted by scientists, and how much importance we should ascribe to scientific results.
Google Books has partial preview available for this book, including the table of contents. My personal favourite philosophies presented are Feyerabend's "science is a form of sorcery", and Bayesian theories of knowledge which describes truth in probabilistic terms based on the amount of supporting evidence available.
G.O.D.
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#34088 - 01/17/10 04:47 AM
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Copyright 1967, The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris is the classic explication of the seventh of the Nine Satanic Statements. Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Naked-Ape-Zoologis...238&sr=1-1#noop
Copyright 2005, Power, Sex, Suicide: Mitochondria and the Meaning of Life by Nick Lane, is, among many other things, a potent explication of how a causal chain of events unguided by sapience could produce the mechanics of biology, and this will help inocculate you against the arguments of intelligent design, fortifying and buttressing Atheism within you, so that the second and third of the Nine Satanic Statements can find safe haven within your mental apparatus, ultimately to become a part of your self-programming. But also, if nothing else, this book is one of the most intriguing and exciting works of popular biology ever written. Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Power-Sex-Suicide-...467&sr=1-1#noop
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#34706 - 01/28/10 04:13 AM
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Simon Jester
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Liber Belial and Processus Satanae. Both are of interest, and quite obscure.
http://www.wierus.com/catalog/processus/
Sade
John Wilmot
Thomas Hobbes
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#34752 - 01/28/10 07:22 PM
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Google Bartolus de Saxoferrato Processus Satanae. It appears to be available in pdf.
This might be of interest to Redbeard fans:
I Beheld Desmond As Lightening Fall—to Chicago! (The Story of Arthur Desmond, 'Might Is Right' and 'Ragnar Redbeard')
http://www.darrellwconder.com/arthurdesmond.html
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#34759 - 01/28/10 09:03 PM
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I tend to agree with Fist here.
I am not sure if he would agree with this post though.
Fists original list of books (seems to me) to be philosophical in nature and they are focused on revealing the essential truth of the individual, the real world in which he or she dwells and the real relationships which exist between individuals in that world.
The key to this list seems to be - ground yourself in gritty reality first, and then afterwards, go on and study other works.
The basis or core is set first, and than as result, you have a secure position from which to critically assess additional works.
I identified myself as a Satanist years ago, by reading a number of the works on Fist’s list and regarding them as complete common sense.
I studied the works of Dr. LaVey, Nietzsche, Redbeard and Machiavelli in particular and found that those works made an enormous amount of sense to me.
I like other types of good books, including history and some occult works, but in my opinion those works must come second to the key ones, which Fist has identified.
Other good and relevant works elaborate and enlarge and unpack to some extent, Fist’s list establishes, in my opinion.
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#34853 - 01/31/10 01:13 AM
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Valor
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The key to this list seems to be - ground yourself in gritty reality first, and then afterwards, go on and study other works.
Very true..
We must "first" find which is absolute to the Self. Once this is established we can then deduce these Works and narrow them down to refine the Self. Once Refinement begins it triggers rare moments of clarity. These moments open door to our potential. If we are wise, we remanifest.
Edited by Valor (01/31/10 01:14 AM)
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#35089 - 02/03/10 11:23 PM
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Clarence
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Rival Caesars by Desmond Dilg. Anyone familiar with Redbeard will find value here.
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#35092 - 02/04/10 03:10 AM
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Rival Caesars by Desmond Dilg. Anyone familiar with Redbeard will find value here.
"A romance of ambition, love and war : being the tale of a Vice-President, a Major-General and three brilliant and beautiful women (Unknown Binding)" - according to Amazon, where the book is listed as out of print and is currently unavailable.
Will you say a little more about the might is right connection?
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#35127 - 02/04/10 10:24 PM
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Clarence
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A Google search produced better results.
This is quite involved, so I will defer to Mr. Conder:
http://www.darrellwconder.com/rivalcaesars.html
Simon Jester has already mentioned Darrell Conder's Redbeard biography: I Beheld Desmond as Lightening Fall—to Chicago! (The Story of Arthur Desmond, 'Ragnar Redbeard' & Might Is Right).
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#36698 - 03/18/10 05:55 AM
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I just checked at my local library, and the only books from this list that are available, are the books written by Friedrich Nietzsche and John Locke. I'm planning on reading "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" ("Aldus sprak Zarathoestra") and "A Letter Concerning Toleration" ("Een brief over tolerantie"), and will update this post with my thoughts on them after reading.
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#38089 - 04/25/10 06:45 AM
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Hello,What for me is a very good lidel pocket book,in this day's about 3,00$,now in secend handbooks, from 150 $ and 280$ ,its "The Devils Anvenger" by Burton.H.Wolfs,it was a book you start reading and stop when it was out.
For me it was a happy nice and chort to DR.La Vey and is living in this day's.......San Francisco,
GreetZ Indrieus
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#41319 - 08/02/10 06:14 PM
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For example the Sun. Objectively its just a Sun- a round thing in the sky that shines and is hot. Thats it. Everything else we know about it (the other 90 percent) or believe it to be, comes from a subjective process of thinking, reasoning, and observation.
I really agree here. We cannot separate our observations from ourselves; that much at least Heisenberg tells us. What we can do is use ourselves as a scientific instrument to perceive the world around us.
To my mind, Rand is a weaker more consumerist restatement of Nietzsche, and I don't have any use for her.
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#41952 - 08/15/10 04:42 AM
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Hi,
I don't know how many of us can read french, but this following book is the only I found talking about a satanic tarot (27 cards, called " Les Arcanes Noirs " in French, " The Black Arcana ":
http://www.thebookedition.com/les-arcanes-noirs-de-panthee-p-42612.html
But, I don't know where I can found the cards...
AMSG
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#42209 - 08/22/10 03:33 AM
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Geheimnis
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Hi,
I bought another book from Panthée.
Does anyone know something about him or her?
He (or she) must be a High Satanic Priest.
This book is called "Devenir Sorcier" which means "Becoming a Witch"...
I start the training...we'll see...
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#42210 - 08/22/10 03:37 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Geheimnis
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Hi Felix...
I've bought the book...the 27 cards have nothing to see with the common Tarot!
Each time, we found the number 9! Wich is Satan number!
The spreads are really unusual!
The message is said to come from Astaroth by the command of Satan himself...if you read well, just a few lines in the very beginning of the book...how strange it is!
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#42300 - 08/23/10 01:33 PM
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Geheimnis
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I was just thinking someone who try to change events using his/her "mental" ou "psychic" power or with the help of invisible forces can be called a witch.
Panthée doesn't talk about Satanism, or Wicca in his book "Devenir Sorcier"...but, in the introduction of the book "Les Arcanes Noirs" and also the names of cards show for me that he/she must be Satanist.
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#42303 - 08/23/10 04:02 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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the earthly duck
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I would like to add that i have greatly enjoyed my last couple of weeks reading The Satanic Scriptures.
It is very crisp in its presentation and very informative.
I find myself a fan of Peter H. Gilmore's Personal Views and truth.
Hence i would like to know about any-other books that he has written.
Please and thank you.
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#44105 - 11/16/10 07:58 AM
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Clarence
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I'm not sure if he has already been mentioned, but Blaise Cendrars strikes me as a satanic figure of sorts. His life and writings. Particularly the novels:
Moravagine
Dan Yack & its sequel
Gold: Being the Marvellous History of General John Augustus Sutter.
Much like Celine, his fiction is often semi-autobiographical - to some extent. I, for one, have found a kindred spirit therein.
As a post script I would suggest that those who have read Myngath should probably take a look at A Posthumous Confession by Marcellus Emants. I can't help but wonder if DWM saw something of himself in Termeer.
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#45376 - 12/21/10 01:34 PM
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The Zebu
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The Way to Godhood
Don't know if anyone else ever brought this up before, but I came across this one a while ago, apparently it dates to 1914. The book is couched in generally Christian-influenced terminology, but the doctrine espoused is one of self-deification through a sort of Nietzschean master-morality, heavily influenced by the concepts of rational self-interest and social Darwinism. Its ideology is called "The New Commandment". In any case, the resemblance to LaVey's Satanism is most striking, and this was likely a significant influence in the formation of his ideas.
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#46602 - 01/12/11 01:41 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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ta2zz
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As much as I am over prodding the newbs...
In my opinion to recommend anything by LaVey has become redundant. Not that I exclude him from my required reding list. However Ragner Redbeard should be considered required reading.
Most who have made it this far have already read LaVey and Might Is Right (or survival of the fittest) was mentioned a few replies up as well as on the first page in case you missed it.
I do look forward to your contribution to the forum.
~T~
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#46623 - 01/12/11 09:52 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Jason King
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If you could refer one book to read which would it be?
The Lucifer Principle. The real Satanic Bible, in my humble opinion. If you "get it" and it resonates, you are a Satanist ipso facto.
JK
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#46639 - 01/12/11 02:57 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Autodidact
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The Rosicrucians continue to rather puzzle me, in that they work very hard at the Mysteries but seem not quite to know what to do with them. I sometimes wonder what Western history would have been like if Rosicrucianism instead of Christianity had been the dominant "thing". More fun, anyway.
I dunno, most of the RHP Mysteries that I've looked into seem to want to hover in a middle ground - they're composed of fractally complicated metaphors, but never wind up at anything of substance. Instead, they assume some sort of Abrahamic underpinning exists. Unless I'm just not looking at the right stuff, shrug.
If that's the case, they're not exclusive ... but the thought remains, what would Western history have been like if Rosicrucianism (or another RHP Mystery) was ubiquitious ...
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#46643 - 01/12/11 03:29 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Diavolo
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I sometimes wonder what Western history would have been like if Rosicrucianism instead of Christianity had been the dominant "thing". You bring up an interesting question! My theory is things might be a little different. We would definetly see more Rosicrucian compounds in the wourld. And chances are there would be more Rosicrucians in the world.
For this conclusion I can't but reward you with a bouquet of handpicked flowers.
You have to be a genius. Truly.
D.
Edited by Diavolo (01/12/11 03:45 PM)
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#46659 - 01/12/11 06:20 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Aklo
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any good secular LHP books
The Naked Ape, by Desmond Morris
The Prince, by Old Nick
The Wolfen, by Whitley Strieber
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#46980 - 01/18/11 08:40 AM
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Mindmaster
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Meh, some of my friends are Rosicrucians (AMORC). Really isn't much different than the O.T.O. except that they apparently have their financial shit way more together and as a whole it is far more organized. I was invited to join, but personally I find myself at odds with theosophy so I refused.
It is conventional old-school secret-keeping masonic lodge, but really they aren't doing anything DIFFERENT other than they actually have some mystical paths. Both of these (AMORC and OTO) are shadow organizations for about 20 other little groups of pagans. You can generally look up 99% of the occult authors you've read and I guarantee if you type 'rosicrucian' or 'OTO' after their name something will come up.
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#47047 - 01/20/11 05:35 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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thedeadidea
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I looked at this post a while a go I will be copying and pasting the entire list highlighting the ones that interest me specifically to add to my reading list. Though I have plenty on my plate at the moment I never have a problem with a few good sugguestions. I can copy and paste the entire list back here unedited descriptions appendixed and without itemising my particular preferences. The only thing I will exclude is double recommendations so the post is concise.
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#47059 - 01/20/11 11:14 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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LittleNicky
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The one I really enjoyed recently is the Hexagradior. Although it is not only LHP but concentrates on the magick in general but still has a big section with Satanic rituals, some of them in Latin. It has an overview of magick, what religions had to do with it over the history, how to train the influence over the aether and events etc.
It's such a combination of how-to stuff with history of magick, religious healings and other examples of "mind over matter" that I had to google every now and then to check if events it refers to are an actual fact or not (yup, they were).
The book has a certain atmosphere. That combination of histories of religions, a chapter about predestination/destiny, stuff in Latin and Hebrew... I haven't seen much that would compare to it and I'd love to find more stuff like it.
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#47197 - 01/22/11 06:57 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Gueheriet
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Carl Gustav Jung
"The Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious"
"Man and his symbols"
Mircea Eliade
"The Sacred and the Profane: The Nature of Religion"
"The Myth of Eternal Return"
Ernst Junger
"On Pain"
Julius Evola
"Revolt against the modern world"
"Men among the ruins"
"Ride the Tiger"
Oswald Spengler
"The Decline of the West"
T.R. Malthus
"An Essay on the Principle of Population"
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#52526 - 04/08/11 09:57 PM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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mightisright
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I really enjoyed might is right, thanks for recommending it. I felt that it really captured the essence of what LaVey meant in his earlier writings.
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#57405 - 07/23/11 12:15 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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eurorocco
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I just want to thank Fist, and those who stuck with the original premise, for this thread. It goes a little off track at times, but there are some great recommendations here. I've found quite a few new books to add to my reading list. I just recently found the Satanic Bible, so I'm now looking for anything to expand on Lavey's ideas.
I'd like to know what you guys think of Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People". For me personally it opened my eyes to how easily people are influenced without realizing they're being played. It also taught me to avoid being influenced by the same techniques. It's not a great intellectual work, but definitely one for those looking out for number one and trying to avoid falling victim to the same. I haven't read any of his other books, but they all seem to deal with gaining self confidence and learning to assert yourself. Both things that I think Lavey was driving at with the Satanic Bible.
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#57412 - 07/23/11 03:10 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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eurorocco
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Thanks for the recommendations. The CoS website is what initially got me interested in reading TSB, and I just ordered Satan Speaks and The Devil's Notebook the other day.
I've heard mention of Aquino and the Temple of Set while researching the CoS, but I've never read anything of his until now. After skimming his site I'm looking forward to reading more. Much appreciated.
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#57750 - 07/29/11 01:32 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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a. don
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May I recommend "The 48 Laws of Power" and "The 33 War Strategies" by Robert Greene?? It's a great suo genesis for anyone interested in conquest-oriented thought.
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#57751 - 07/29/11 02:06 AM
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HeyZeusCreesto
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May I recommend "The 48 Laws of Power" and "The 33 War Strategies" by Robert Greene?? It's a great suo genesis for anyone interested in conquest-oriented thought.
as a follow up i would recommend "The 50th Law" written and cowritten by Greene and non other than my favorite Philosopher, Curtis Jackson a.k.a 50Cent.
and a quote from one of his scriptures:
"bitch can't get a dolla outta me [...] i'm a muthafukkin P.I.M.P"
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#59362 - 09/22/11 06:01 AM
Re: Books of the Left Hand Path
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Rivenstar
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Personally, I've always found most anything written by Mark Twain to be rather satanic. But "A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court" is undoubtedly my favorite. For a shorter read, I would suggest his "The Mysterious Stranger". I have also found "The Psychology of Adjustment" by Laurance Frederic Shaffer and Edward Joseph Shoben,Jr. to be very useful. I also enjoy reading Thoreau's journals.
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