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#6069 - 03/20/08 11:39 PM Books of the Left Hand Path
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I would like to offer some books worth reading for Satanists and other like minds and fellow travellers of the Left Hand Path. I have listed them in no particular order, other than to offer them as they came to me in composing this list. However, I have made a point of sticking purely to philosophy in general and avoiding occult material.

Friedrich Nietzsche
"Daybreak"
"Thus Spoke Zarathustra"
"Beyond Good and Evil"

Ragnar Redbeard
"Might Is Right"

Ayn Rand
"Atlas Shrugged"
"Philosophy: Who Needs It"
"The Virtue of Selfishness"
"Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal"
"The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution"
"Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology"

Niccolò Machiavelli
"The Prince"

Sun Tzu
"The Art of War"

Yamamoto Tsunetomo
"Hagakure"

Howard Bloom
"The Lucifer Principle"

Bertrand de Jouvenel
"On Power: The Natural History of Its Growth"


Some of the assorted writings of:
H. L. Mencken
Thomas Jefferson
John Locke
Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Paine
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#6142 - 03/21/08 11:59 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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These are excellent books and authors. May I add Robert Anton Wilson; and the old school humanist cats like David Hume... maybe even J.R. "Bob" Dobbs to the mix?

I like Rand and her "Objectivism."

She's a bit of a nut thoe. Most women in the book writing business or philosophical arena don't fair as well as she does. If so we'd have more female prophets and religious figure head.

I suspect she's either a hermaphrodite like Joan of Arc was or she has this Enlarged Left Brain Syndrom... or she's just real butch like Melissa Ethridge is. Either way I've given her the coveted Honorary Man Award for her accomplishments. And you can't accuse me of being sexist either, because I am her gender kindred. A sell out to my gender maybe, but not sexist.

I also think she misnamed or misunderstood her own philosophy by calling it "Objectivism."

""Reality is 10 percent Objective, and 90 percent Subjective."" Robert Anton Wilson.

Let me share with you why I think Objectivism is wrongly named and instead should be called "Subjectivism."

By "Objective" I understand it to mean uninterpreted tangible things as they are before the human mind takes it and conceptualizes it subjectively with his thinking and reasoning process.

For example the Sun. Objectively its just a Sun- a round thing in the sky that shines and is hot. Thats it. Everything else we know about it (the other 90 percent) or believe it to be, comes from a subjective process of thinking, reasoning, and observation. You can't observe, conceive, or ponder on Objective Reality without first sticking it into your subjective mind to use your subjective ideas, opinions, and intuition to add gravy to it or understand it.

If Objectivism praises and puts objective reality on a divine pedastool, than Objectivism is missing out on the other 90 percent of reality... and that is weak.

Thankfully Anton LaVey balanced this imbalance with Niezsche's Existentialism. I know some people will argue and say that Nietzsche wasn't an Existentialist, but many consider him to be the father of it.

In my opinion the two don't even mix right. In my mind Objectivism says: "hey, look at things objectively with reason, thats really important, because thats what makes humankind different from animals." Whereas Existentialism says: "Who gives a shit? We Exist and thats all that matters, enjoy it while its last and don't spend your time interpreting shit."

Thats just my two cents on Rand.

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#6169 - 03/22/08 02:41 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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For existentialism, check out 'The Outsider' by Albert Camus and 'Nausea' by Jean-Paul Sartre. A stark contrast to the religious RHP...

If it's ancient philosophy you're after, forget about Plato.
Take a look at Epicurus - his individualistic, balanced hedonism, and materialistic worldview very close to full-blown Atheism, make Epicureanism quite interesting for the modern Satanist (though naturally, Nietzsche wasn't keen on all its teachings). The Sophists were also interesting (and in some ways a forerunner of postmodern relativism), as were the Cynics and Stoics.
Most modern philosophy has its roots in Hellenism - for example, there are strong Stoic and Epicurean threads in David Hume's philosophy (in addition to its throwback to the Greek Sceptics).


In terms of the LHP/RHP distinction, it can be said that the RHP is characterised by a focus on the collective, morality, altruism and dogma; while the LHP is characterised by individualism, autonomy and freethought.

Taoism seems the most LHP-like of Eastern philosophies (although its western cousins such as Epicureanism and the Sophists are more individualistic).

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#6174 - 03/22/08 08:44 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Meq]
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I have never read David Hume but would say that my own personal philosophy balances the Stoic and Epicurean.
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#9261 - 05/31/08 12:32 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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May I add Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and Bertrand Russell to your list of authors? I've skimmed through Dawkin's newest book, The God Delusion. I plan to read it through once I finish The End of Faith by Sam Harris. These authors mostly deal in reason and the apparant lack of it in today's society.

Harris and Dawkins both have web sites worth visiting...
Sam Harris
Richard Dawkins
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#9268 - 05/31/08 05:31 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: devul]
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A little off topic, but good none the less.

I visited my 'born again Christians' friends house for dinner the other night. I noticed in her library a copy of Atlas Shrugged.

On enquiring if I could borrow it and telling her that it's almost required reading for a progressive modern satanist, she couldn't wait to get it out of her house and gave it to me instead. LOL I shouldn't be so happy about a bit of obvious manipulation of a friend, but hey, it was a victimless crime. She'd never even read it!

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#9272 - 05/31/08 10:35 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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"Atlas Shrugged" is at the top of my Rand reading list in my original post.

Dawkins is an Atheist of the first order. He is a good god-fighter but he a somewhat annoying secular humanist. Secular humanism is simply white-light RHP drivel lacking the good old moral foundation randomized faith.

I would also like to add to the reading list:

William Blake
"The Marriage of Heaven and Hell"

Aldous Huxley
"Doors of Perception"
"Brave New World"

George Orwell
"1984"

Carl Marx
"The Communist Manifesto"

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#9316 - 06/01/08 08:47 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Well Der...I realised that, which is why I put in this little anecdote. Did you think I was trying to out cleverererer you?

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#9321 - 06/02/08 10:19 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Not at all. I am just pointing it out for the benifit of others who read these threads. Satanists are born - not made. These reading lists will do little good for people who are not satanists in the first place. However, the initiate can make great gains if they only read half of this material.
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#9858 - 06/28/08 04:57 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Just thought I'd throw in that I really really enjoyed Atlas Shrugged. Nothing like I imagined (although I'm not sure what I imagined).

Highly recommended reading. I'm looking forward to finding more of her stuff to read.

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#9873 - 06/28/08 01:11 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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May I suggest "Anthem" by Ayn Rand? It's my favorite book by her.
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#9890 - 06/28/08 09:40 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Asmedious]
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Yes you may. I shall add it to my 'books I want list'.

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#9932 - 06/30/08 01:10 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Nice reading list Fist. I wanted to second all of that Nietzsche and Machiavelli. I think I have read just about half of your list and indeed benefited from it greatly.

I think I had posted this on some other thread (apologies) but heregoes anyway:

"Human, All-Too-Human" by Nietzsche (contains most of his ideas in prototype, wonderfully sarcastic about human foibles)
"Demian" by Hermann Hesse (will take you down with it)
"Frankenstein" by Mary Shelley (self again all, existence of rejection, science triumphant over nature, rebellion against creator)
"The Sea Wolf" by Jack London (working-class ubermensch vs. intellectual softie, finding a balance between the two)

Some excellent applied psychology...
"Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell
"Getting Past No" by William Ury

I don't value political heresy for its own sake - I'd rather my political ideas become more standard and prominent, so we could actually put them into practice, but anyway...

"Lenin: Building the Party" by Tony Cliff
aka "how-to manual for revolution and all types of political faction fighting," I'd say it rivals The Prince in its instructiveness
"Catechism of a Revolutionist" by Sergei Nechaev
"God and the State" by Mikhail Bakunin
(the last two are easily available online)
"A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn
the finest subverted of the official American narrative
"The Gendered Society" by Michael Kimmel
a fine subverter, possibly, of your own identity
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#9937 - 06/30/08 08:20 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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 Quote:
"Lenin: Building the Party" by Tony Cliff
aka "how-to manual for revolution and all types of political faction fighting," I'd say it rivals The Prince in its instructiveness


This assumes a traveller of the LHP has a use for building a political party of the communist model. Given that the whole body of communist thought seeks to subvert the individual through state mandated white light RHP programs, the LHP practitioner has little need for it. "The Prince" seeks to aid the individual in consolidating his own personal power.


 Quote:
"A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn
the finest subverted of the official American narrative


In some circles we call this 'revisionist history.' A worthless book for America hating leftists who lack the intellectual honesty to actually move to a true 'workers paradise' like Cuba, China, or North Korea.

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"The Gendered Society" by Michael Kimmel
a fine subverter, possibly, of your own identity


Again, more leftist nonsense. One of the great victories of the now defunct USSR is that it did succeed in subverting American culture and infiltrating the Academy. This clap-trap has emasculated much of West, has led to the destruction of traditional families, and caused a backlash in the form a new sort of nihilism and misogyny that seem to be the new pop-culture norm.

The world seems to be full of vandals and hooligans who justify their crimes by calling them 'revolutionary.'
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#9946 - 06/30/08 01:56 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I wouldn't really argue over book recommendations, Fist, but you challenged if they even fit the category of LHP itself. I will try to demonstrate that they might be useful for LHPers.

(1) Building the Party
I'm surprised you turn your nose up at Building the Party so quickly. The Marxist/Leninist tradition which wrote that book is informed by Machiavelli himself. Marx called Machiavelli one of the giants of the Enlightenment. Even if you don't agree with the ends of a Leninist party, you might pick up something from its methods. Marx and Lenin sat around reading Karl Von Clausewitz, the military scientist. I've read plenty about the Nazi rise to power, not to achieve fascism but to see if there were any tactical successes I could pick up.

As I posted in the ONA thread, do not confuse socialism and Stalinism. Yes, Stalinists crush individuality, which I see as inseparable from collective working-class confidence and consciousness - at least for workers.

The working class, though consisting of individuals, can be spoken of collectively. For the worker, the only path to self-expansion and personal development must necessarily be in cooperation with other workers, against owners - either that or they can have rich uncles who buy them out of wage-slavery. I have no such luck. Marx called for "an association in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all." Isn't the Marxist call to turn the working class into a self-conscious class, a class for-itself, the epitome of the left hand path? It reminds me of the Temple of Set's idea of xeper, "I have come into being." Marxism is trying to accomplish just that on a global scale, for the whole human population.

Sorry, Fist. The right wing does not have a monopoly on libertarian populist sentiments. Sometimes I feel like people use the word "individualist" when all they really mean is "independent and assertive." Those traits can also describe collective working class activity, and not to the detriments of the individuals in that movement, but aiding their *personal* expansion.

(2) People's History
You call it revisionist history. I call most history taught in American public schools somewhat revisionist.

To quote the first chapter of the book itself, whose author I had the pleasure to have dinner with:

"It is not that the historian can avoid emphasis of some facts and not of others. This is as natural to him as to the mapmaker, who, in order to produce a usable drawing for practical purposes, must first flatten and distort the shape of the earth...
My argument cannot be against selection, simplification, emphasis...but the historian's distortion is more than technical, it is ideogical; it is released into a world of contending interests, where any chosen emphasis supports (whether the historian means to or not) some kind of interest, whether economic or political or racial or national or sexual."

He goes on to explain that he chooses to that most public school history focuses on a "few great men," lots of war, and lots of America, whereas history can be told - not distorting anything - instead with an emphasis on working class and oppressed struggle.

Again, Cuba, China, North Korea, none of these interest me, except as one more state to see overthrown. They are places in which power is out of the hands of the working class. They call themselves Marxist in order to better control people, much in the way that the USA calls itself the center of the free world to better control people. I am staying right here and focusing my efforts in the USA, because if the USA goes socialist it will be able to support working-class revolt the world over, a position that Russia was not in from 1917 to 1927.

(3) The Gendered Society
To hell with the traditional family. In Latin as used in Rome, "famulus" meant domestic slave, and "familia" meant the collective slaves that a man owned, and his women and biological offspring were lumped into that category, since they were seen as property as well. The head of the family also had the power of life and death over his property - or, his family - or...jee, family and property were the same thing.

Isn't that the greatest travesty against all instincts to freedom? Freedom being the defining characteristic of the LHP to me. How much more RHP can you get than family? Freedom is demonic, dangerous, and uncontrollable. It is naturally disruptive and toxic to traditional structures - and it creates new and better ones.

As far as the modern day, I do not care whatsoever about a unit of economic dependence. Children should be able to associate with whomever they choose and not be trapped and stifled within one miniscule set of influences called their family. It takes a whole village to raise a child, and the development of the nuclear family can be seen as the mirror of privatization (externalize all social problems and responsibilities onto isolated individuals) within the domestic sphere. We already have public schools, which place all children in one institutionalized center. Why not just go all the way and recognize that life itself in any modern society functions according to institutionalized centers, and use these for mass distribution and liberation (there's no such thing as a free hungry person) instead of keeping people in check?

I am that very leftist infiltrating the Academy that all the McCarthyists have their panties in a wad about.


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#10033 - 07/03/08 12:58 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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i dont know about most the other ones but some good reads are
Satanicon written back in the 80's the pictures kinda funny but the book left me with a nice cslming evil feeling.A lot of Egyptian magick to me is really intersting too.I just read the book of the gates,that was a good read.The Black books of Satan 1 2 3 gotta be read.Just suggerstions.
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#10904 - 08/22/08 07:29 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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I can't believe I didn't think of these earlier:

Lysander Spooner. He was the original American anarchist. Most every clown in a black hooded sweatshirt thinks they know what anarchy is all about. This guy is the real deal. His essays called "No Treason" are the most popular. I personally would start on his essays on poverty and why we have it. Most of his work can be found online here:

http://www.lysanderspooner.org

Kurt Saxon. However did I forget him?! He is actually a true bomb throwing anarchist in the sense that he really makes bombs. Better still, he is actually still alive. You can even talk to him on the phone. He is quite an affable guy. However, he is old, has lived a very full life, and has a genius IQ. So, if you do plan to talk to him you should have your act in order.

Among other things, he invented the term "survivalism", has been a congressional witness, and for a while was in LaVey's circle of strangeness during the church's heyday.

This Wiki bio is reasonably good:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Saxon

His books on practical low tech living (to include his more 'explosive' works) are invaluable to any student of the LHP. But, it is his vitriolic social commentary that I truly love. Here is a more resent sample:

THE U.S. IS TERMINAL
By Kurt Saxon

Our species has become a plague on the land. Worldwide, we have out-bred the carrying capacities of our environments and our socioeconomic systems. Our country is swamped with morons and degenerates. The Mexican border has become a huge anus through which Mexico excretes its waste matter. There are at least eight million Muslims here, all too many of which, feel commanded to destroy us.

Around 1850 our species reached one billion. By 1930 it doubled to two billion and by 1975, four billion. Today it is six and a half billion and climbing.

U.S. population was just under 100 million in1900. Today it is 300 million, 100 million non-white.

The insane middle-east war against Islam is further ruining our economy.

Overpopulation and down-breeding has reduced the level of reasoning of the average human to that of a baboon. A terrible culling is due, or overdue, of more than 50% of our population who will die of starvation, disease and/or violence.

I will illustrate: A man feels poorly and goes to his doctor. The doctor tells him he has a spreading cancer and is overweight and getting fatter. He asks the doctor, "Can't you cut out the cancer and help me lose weight?" The doctor answers, "Of course not. Your cancer cells and your fat cells have as much right to live as do your normal cells."

You would consider that doctor to be insane. But isn't that the same attitude as our politicians, and, unfortunately, most of our politically correct fellow citizens express? People who were born to no purpose and are a social liability, at best, will be culled as a matter course. Those who accept them as simply a part of the scheme of things, will be a part of an indiscriminate culling which will carry off both worthwhile and worthless.

Our elected officials are corrupt and incompetent. No improvement is possible, short of the massive culling. The culling will remove the parasites, predators, perverts and also the Liberals, who not only allowed, but encouraged society's dregs to survive and multiply.

Your only hope lies in the knowledge of our past, in preparing to save yourself and your loved ones. Only the self-sufficiency of our ancestors will help you to create a life-support system and also enable you to defend your own against all comers.

END.....

This and more, to include his practical work, can be found at:

http://www.kurtsaxon.com
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#10908 - 08/22/08 09:47 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Here's a few suggestions:

1. Wilson, Robert Anton, Cosmic Trigger I: The Final Secret of the Illuminati

2. Hoffer, Eric. The True Believer

3. Nietzsche, Friedrich. The Will To Power

4. Plato. The Republic

5. Sagan, Carl. The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

6. DuQuette, Lon Milo. The Magick of Aleister Crowley: A Handbook of the Rituals of Thelema
(One of the best introductions to Thelema in my opinion)

7. Ford, Michael W. Luciferian Witchcraft

8. Carroll, Peter J. Liber Kaos.

9. Leary, Timothy and Michael Horowitz, Vicki Marshall.Chaos and Cyber Culture.

10. Wilson, Robert Anton.Everything Is Under Control

11. Kaku, Michio. Physics of the Impossible.

12. Regardie, Israel. The Eye in the Triangle

13. Nikolas Schreck, Zeena Schreck. Demons of the Flesh: The Complete Guide to Left-Hand Path Sex Magic

14. Webb, Don. Seven Faces of Darkness: Practical Typhonian Magic

15. Ford, Michael W. The Bible of the Adversary

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#10909 - 08/23/08 12:27 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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How about Abbey Hoffman? Abbey Hoffman I still have his "Steal This Book" in my collection, which I keep locked away so my kid doesn't do just that. I have made some of the bombs in there to great success. As a teen, I used his smoke bomb recipe to smoke out a city block and have the fire department called to "find the fire". I have used his stink bomb recipe to get revenge on several people that have wronged me. If you can still find it, a good read and resource tool.
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#10924 - 08/23/08 11:15 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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why is it that the old Grimoires of black magic specifically made for the Priests in the Catholic Church seems more evil than other orgs. example,the Grimoire of Pope Honorius the 3rd,also calle the Geat Gimoire.When the instructions for making your own parchment tells you to use the skin of a young virgin kid,ain't no goats about it.Maybe secretly there in competition with um someone else,at least they could be honest about it.
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#10927 - 08/23/08 11:53 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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Once you've figured out how to make the magic of the Simon Necronomicon work,it's some of the scariest ^$# you've seen.But anyway if your like me,and think your probably pretty much F%$#ed
in the afterlife,it's not a safe suggestion,but ya know how they say Kthulu's Dead,But Dreaming.Anyway memorise just the simple lines of the spells for evoking the 50 spirits of Marduk,and try it in your sleep.I'd start with the nicer ones.But if you like the idea of evoking undead cannibals,the gates of absolute darkness and things that go from people that are kinda just watching you then turning into Insectoid Abominations.than this book is for you.just so you know the spells'll work,but they wont show you themselves at first.Im not telling you who these ones are but one has brown hair all over its body,huminoid shaped the first time i saw this one it was the most frieghtning sight i've seen,and this one was to be the kindest.the other one came as a old kinda with an off greyish looking skin,he told me"I just wanna show you something"after he said that his face changed from that of an old man to a black insectoid face with like 6 blood red eyes like that of a spider.So far both of these seemeed to me to be vampiric,after seeing these I dont think theres any reason to persue this book any further.It seemed like they were giving me a warning.Don't attemp this if your not already doomed,I think they can only see you in the Dream,Spirit world.I'd rather watch this as a movie.Its kinda messed up cause this is like the first Occult book the aspiring occultist'll pick up.For the first hour after I woke up something kept stomping around my apartment and banging on the walls,and it felt like someone was stabbing me in the side for like half hour,But on a positive note the book of entrance seems to be the safest part of the book.They say in the translation of the "Al Azif" your not doomed till you see there faces.So if you havn't seen them yet don't do it.I think I figured out were lovecraft got his ideas.

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#10928 - 08/23/08 12:08 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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Let me get this straight. You actually belief in the made up mythos of lovecraft, performed a ritual and saw strange creatures popping out of it in your dreams?

I find this pretty hard to belief actually. Of course I don't claim it to be false when you dreamt about them. Wich actually is quite normal if you fall asleep with certain ideas and figures or discriptions your brains will use these in your REM-state and convert it to dreams.

But I wouldn't be claiming it is because of these rituals/spells you used. It sounds very... unnatural.
Don't start nagging I don't know a thing about simon's necromoticon or nothing about Lovecraft because then I'll be happy to let you make an ass out of yourself.
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#10932 - 08/23/08 12:50 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dimitri]
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One of the purposes of this this thread is to give the traveller of the LHP some references.

A lot of the 'magical' text listed by some of you really don't serve the purpose.

Before one looks to explore various types of magic, one needs to steep himself in his own identity and beliefs. Most, supposed magical texts are little more than cheesy 'how to' manuals that sell the snake oil of giving power to the powerless. Even Micheal Ford's work falls into this category. While Ford himself, as a person, knows how to wield his own personal power, I really doubt you are going to learn much from his books. Of course, Ford does get paid for it!

Crowley goes into some detail of what the Black Brother needs to do before trying to develop his own power. LaVey, in several essays, points out that most 'magicians' are little more than your typical boardwalk carny in better clothes.

Before bothering with these sorts of manuals, the true traveller needs to explore the more generalized philosophy of the path he is on and should comport himself accordingly. Chanting to yourself with candles in the dark is little more than just that.
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#10933 - 08/23/08 12:52 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dimitri]
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i didnt read the necronomicon before i fell asleep.I memorized most of it,and chanted a summoning formula while i was asleep,what i mean is its called lucid dreaming,when you actually know your asleep,Ive been summoning the dead in this way for the last 6 years,havnt had the best time but the knowledge is there,any way ive probably read about 50 different books on the occult,specifically diferent forms and types of incantations to talk with different deities.I only pick out the stuff that works for me.the true books on the occult dont just read from right to left top to bottom,theyll give you hints to figure them out.and if yu cant there probably not meant for you anyway.Im glad your skeptical,that means you have nothing to worry about.heres an example out of Konstantinos Nocturnicon,necromancy,Hear me lord Hades,seek not to match wits with me i only seek an audience of _______ that _______ may come forth from the abyss and great me as my brother and friend..this ones perfectly safe to do.you have to work on the abuility to realize your asleep.it takes practice use a name of a friend and sure enough.ive even talked with nm. im not saying anymore
believe me or dont people should do some research before they comment.

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#10934 - 08/23/08 01:01 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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Napalm: punctuation please. A little structure would do no harm.

At least it is good you knew you were dreaming.
And I already did some research about such rituals, incantations and the only thing I noticed were some changes psychological wich almost always accurs when you are doing some sort of ritual.
Never had been bothered by some undead guy or deity even if I tried to summon an undead one. I would like to believe these things worked, it'll make my life more fun but sadly enough it doesn't. My time of believing I summoned something are quite over 'cause I noticed it were just my ideas and my mind who wanted to believe and who blinded me.
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#10935 - 08/23/08 01:03 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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in Luciferian witchcraft theres a formula for developing charged toad bones.Michael Ford even says that he will try to convince you to burie the bones in a graveyard,but your not supposed to.Ive seen him and he got pretty pissed i didnt believe i was suppose to burie it that way.I was told its to get it charged.If you want to call him try calling him Lord Set.He likes that.
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#10937 - 08/23/08 01:08 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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alright,argument um wats this section for again.Go get a mirror find some poor saps grave on the side of the graveyard.burie it for the space of a moon.dig it up and write his name on the back.pleasant dreams.Im not writing a book im stating an oppinion.punctuation?. i dont get why people that dont believe in the arcane even are on this site.do i have to remind of the symbol at the top of the page

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#10938 - 08/23/08 01:10 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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ill send one to you if you want.
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#10939 - 08/23/08 01:11 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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 Originally Posted By: napalm
in Luciferian witchcraft theres a formula for developing charged toad bones.Michael Ford even says that he will try to convince you to burie the bones in a graveyard,but your not supposed to.Ive seen him and he got pretty pissed i didnt believe i was suppose to burie it that way.I was told its to get it charged.If you want to call him try calling him Lord Set.He likes that.

I'd more like to call someone like that king of donkeys. Everyone who is into this philosophy is supposed to make up it's own mind. Following someone without thinking for yourself to me is one of the dumbest things you can do. It lacks intelligence and individuality.

Symbol in the left corner? Lack of arcane knowledge?
The symbol is just a baphomet and can be interpreted in many different ways. And about the arcane knowledge; I prefer to think and search myself instead of waiting for some invisible deity decides to give me information when I beg for it.


Edited by Dimitri (08/23/08 01:14 PM)
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#10940 - 08/23/08 01:15 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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i didnt mean to sound antagonistic its just ive been studying this for like 8 years and see results eventualle im going to publish my ownn book.but i dont want to publish it for the general public.studying the occultphilosophy and the occult is all I do .id like to be in europe you have a greater access to these booksespecially in germany.im not blogging anymore i was making a sugestion that isnt written in the book.Satanism is the religion and beliefs of the diverse.Not the mundane.Im starting a boycott on Belgian waffles.He doesnt even know Set's the egeptian form of the name satan.


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#10942 - 08/23/08 02:00 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
One of the purposes of this this thread is to give the traveller of the LHP some references.

A lot of the 'magical' text listed by some of you really don't serve the purpose.

Before one looks to explore various types of magic, one needs to steep himself in his own identity and beliefs. Most, supposed magical texts are little more than cheesy 'how to' manuals that sell the snake oil of giving power to the powerless. Even Micheal Ford's work falls into this category. While Ford himself, as a person, knows how to wield his own personal power, I really doubt you are going to learn much from his books. Of course, Ford does get paid for it!

Crowley goes into some detail of what the Black Brother needs to do before trying to develop his own power. LaVey, in several essays, points out that most 'magicians' are little more than your typical boardwalk carny in better clothes.

Before bothering with these sorts of manuals, the true traveller needs to explore the more generalized philosophy of the path he is on and should comport himself accordingly. Chanting to yourself with candles in the dark is little more than just that.


To each their own, I suppose. However, it was my understanding that this thread was designed to give people a list of recommended books from a variety of sources that are pertinent to the Left Hand Path. I recognize that you chose to not include occult books in your list. I was unaware that this was mandatory, but rather it reflected your personal choice in your post.

My own purpose was to suggest a wide variety of different interpretations of the Left Hand Path. Obviously, this included Satanic, Luciferian, Setian and Thelemic sources. My own belief is that by exposure to a wide assortment of texts, a person will come to their own conclusions.

As for Michael Ford's works, personally I enjoy & have benefited from them a great deal. I see no purpose in denigrating his books simply because you don't agree with him. If you don't agree with him, don't read him anymore. \:D

That said, heres a few more books from the purely philosophical arena. All are philosophical classics.

Kant, Immanuel. Groundwork of Metaphysic of Morals
Kant, Immanuel. Critique of Pure Reason
Mill, John Stuart. On Liberty
Aristotle Nicomachean Ethics
Schopenhauer, Arthur. The World as Will and Idea.
Hume, David. Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion
Descartes, Rene. Meditations Towards First Philosophy
Hobbes, Thomas. Leviathan
Aurelius, Marcus. Meditations

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#10944 - 08/23/08 02:54 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Seti 352]
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My only point is that you are not setting the new traveller for success if you send him straight to occult aspect first.

As Crowley points out, the new practitioner needs to come to the occult with his feet firmly planted in his own identity before staring out into the Abyss.
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#10945 - 08/23/08 02:55 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Seti 352]
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i appoligize for spendig all that space arguing with someone fresh out of high school.if i would have read his profile and knew his age i wouldnt have responded.Id erase them but its a good example of what not to do.New ideas is what the occults all about.if you dont believe in somethin.cool quit.I just got a little heated about the arguments.This isnt necessarily a good thing but,Hell and Cutha are more tangible than people would think.I know my destination and its not because im trying to be trendy.

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#10947 - 08/23/08 03:07 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I know thats why i put all those warnings but im not high enough in status yet to send this to the privately.the first time looking into the eyes of Eternal hatred is not going to get better no matter how skilled you get though.Even if you don't see something it doesn't mean it doesn't see you.I intended it to be a warning.They don't always put those ya know warning labels on it to get more sales.

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#10949 - 08/23/08 03:25 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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Fist,

You have a very valid point. Before any occult explorations are done, one should have a firm grasp of reality & be fairly well read in a variety of areas.(Especially science.) Sorry I misunderstood where you were coming from. The joys of internet communication, eh? lol

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#10957 - 08/23/08 08:41 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Seti 352]
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if you liked my writing thank you you might not recognize it but im the ona that wrote under dead scientists names.I almost dont remember them,,try spending a day or two on studying the dictionary and tell a story.I wish I had a name like Lasander Spooner.
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#10966 - 08/24/08 12:51 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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i didnt mean to sound antagonistic its just ive been studying this for like 8 years and see results eventualle im going to publish my ownn book.but i dont want to publish it for the general public.studying the occultphilosophy and the occult is all I do .id like to be in europe you have a greater access to these booksespecially in germany.im not blogging anymore i was making a sugestion that isnt written in the book.Satanism is the religion and beliefs of the diverse.Not the mundane.Im starting a boycott on Belgian waffles.He doesnt even know Set's the egeptian form of the name satan.


Who the fuck is going to publish this butchery of the English language? I hope it's a Chinease publisher. Hell, the magazine I work for, a redneck hot rod mag, requires basic elementary school grammar. Your shit reads like my puke after an all night bender on tequila. Not very appealing.
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#10968 - 08/24/08 02:11 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: fakepropht]
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i like to withdraw some comments i suffer from PTSD cause of an incident in the catholic church.sometimes i go on tangents.
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#10976 - 08/24/08 06:14 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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If you are having such "attacks" try to controle yourself.
Feeling angry and you can't think clearly, take a step back and wait untill it is over then answer. Fucking yourself up is bad for the heart. But still try to do something about that grammar, it isn't that difficult. Just use a spell-checker. My mother tongue is dutch but if I take a look at some english others spelling I have to conclude mine is much better. And it is a great mistake to judge on my age or studies. It is easy to make an ass out of someone and it really gets simple if the guy is judging on such things.

Anyway, to get back on topic;
good books about the occult? I'd recomment reading all esotheric books and litrature wich seems appealing to you. When reading ask yourselves question about it. The best question is : WHY?
In this case, you gain much more knowledge, you know your ennemy and you have a good exercise in critical thinking. These are things that can lead towards succes if used properly.


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#10983 - 08/24/08 08:25 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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i like to withdraw some comments i suffer from PTSD cause of an incident in the catholic church.sometimes i go on tangents.


WTF does that have to do with bad spelling and grammar?

Your almost 30 right?

If you are looking for sympathy, you will find it in the dictionary between 'shit' and 'syphilis.'
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#10997 - 08/24/08 05:56 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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It's not sympathy I want,but I do need to work on destoying my weaknesses.I'll try to save the blogging for when I havn't been drinking.
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#11004 - 08/24/08 08:02 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
If you are looking for sympathy, you will find it in the dictionary between 'shit' and 'syphilis.'

I will have to remember that... The lady that taught me to tattoo used to always say "sorry falls between shit and sympathy"...

 Originally Posted By: napalm
It's not sympathy I want,but I do need to work on destoying my weaknesses.I'll try to save the blogging for when I havn't been drinking.

Are we bloggers? I thought a blog was more like a diary...

I am so off topic... But saying you were either angry or drunk is nothing but a very simple excuse... Be responsible for what you do if you fuck up learn from it and correct it... Leave the excuses for the children...

The save...

I do not have a specific book to recommend but anything on the life and doings of P.T. Barnum is a must read for one walking this path... So many only remember the eccentrics like Crowley and LaVey forgetting the worldly lessons in the words and actions of P.T. Barnum...

~T~
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#11074 - 08/27/08 09:58 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: ta2zz]
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Maybe I'm being too critical of the Simon Necronomicon.It might only have seen that bad cause I've done some pretty f&*^ed
up shtuff.But I'd trust it more if it was the original Latin text.

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#11083 - 08/28/08 03:30 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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But I'd trust it more if it was the original Latin text.

Euhm,.. I don't know about this but the necronomicon has never been written in latin as far as I can remember. The first necronomicon dates back from Lovecrafts time and if I'm not mistaking it isn't even 100 years ago... Correct me if I'm mistaking here, history of the different kinds of necronomicons need to be a bit cleansed/ revised.

Unless you meant the egyptian book of dead, but that's written with hieroglyphes.
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#11084 - 08/28/08 04:54 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dimitri]
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No it was Latin.Trust me.An I don't mean the Al Azif.They only just discovered one from the 15th century.Its in one of the British Museums.There have been other books written that have got the name but there not the same.Ya know theres a list of like 5 different ones from different time periods but the actual one is the one written about 1200ad.It's in the Vatican(scarry shit). (But as for the Simon,even if it was made up,if enough people believe in an entity,and trying to summon it does that expended energy bring it to reality).hypothetically.
Azif translates in Arabic to(nocturnally the sound made by insects,supposedly the howling of demons......


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#11086 - 08/28/08 12:54 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: napalm]
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What does some nonsense about Lovecraft's fiction have to do with LHP philosophy?

Go start your own damn thread.
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#11119 - 08/31/08 12:38 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Unless you can find a genuine copy of the book in old latin, ancient greek or medieval arabic, then we all know that you're just pulling our leg (and your own). You will never find the words "Necronomicon", "Cthulhu", or "Azathoth" in ANY writings before the 1920's.

That said, I have read some fictional versions of the Necronomicon that were quite entertaining... particularly Tyson's. However, Simon's is the only one I would call "left hand" in any way, but the magic system is a bunch of nonsense he pulled out of his ass and threw in some references to ancient sumerian gods to sound authentic.
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#13490 - 10/26/08 08:03 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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First I would like to thanks Fist for this good initiative. I'll probably read more and post less in the (near) future.

Thanks for guiding so well the newbies like me Fist ;\)

Wanting to add my little contribution, I recommend Michel Onfray's books.

Unfortunately, I don't think his books are already translated in English. But for those who can read French, I really think it's interresting reading.

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#13617 - 10/29/08 12:57 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fabiano]
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In Belgium, you should be able to find the original French copy of "On Power: The Natural History of Its Growth" by Bertrand de Jouvenel in the library.

I suspect you would enjoy it more in French. However, be warned, although Jouvenel is often portrayed historically as a liberal, his strong anti-govt writings may have been purged from most of the Socialist libraries of Europe.
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#13634 - 10/29/08 11:17 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Thanks for the tips, I'll also look in 2nd hand bookstores.

I was looking for a French version of "Atlas Shrugged" but the existing one seems crapy. A new translation should be released in 2009...

I saw the Plato was mentionned above, I'm not sure but to me it's more on the RHP than on the LHP. His concept of "pure Good" is a good basis a "Good God" can be build on.
Am I wrong?

Finaly, a good book on time management looks to me a good support for avoiding to waste one's time.
It helps you defining your goal, building a plan to reach it, and discipline yourself to follow the plan.
Yes, Discipline! It's a way to obey to your own God (YOU!)



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#13647 - 10/30/08 09:22 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fabiano]
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Just a small add on to the Necronomicon thread. I have done some research of how using Lovecraft's mythos in an occult context have been used to explore alternative archetypes. This, from my readng, has yeilded some rather interesting results. This technique is also a way of experimenting with the magical theory that the validity of the historical value of a magical system is not nearly as important as the beleif in it for the purpose of ritual. This of course comes from the Chaos field which is often very LHP, and not for beginners. I know I'm not ready for tentacles on my alter!

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#13650 - 10/30/08 09:57 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: The AntiChris]
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Ok, clearly you cannot read.

The purpose of this thread is to provide the new practitioner a list of non-occult books that will better structure their thought processes for travelling the LHP.

If you want to discuss the merits of the Necronomicon then start your own damn thread. The last thing we need here are bootlickers and 'me-too' satanists.
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#13661 - 10/30/08 04:07 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Sorry about straying off topic there. As for "literary Satanism":

Milton,John. Paradise Lost

(These two I know sound cliche but there still great works.)

Dante. The Inferno

I'll also add:

Parsons, John W. Freedom is a Two Edged Sword
(edited by) Hyatt, Christopher S. Ph.D Rebels and Devils The Psychology of Liberation
Spare A.O. Anathema of Zos
Crowley, Aleister. The World's Tragedy

I also think William S. Burroughs is worth mentioning as well as many publications by Disinformation.
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#17170 - 12/29/08 11:17 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: The AntiChris]
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As we slip into the New Aeon, I have seen a lot of interest here lately in 'race' and culture.

To wit:

Raymond B. Cattell's excellent work - Beyondism: Religion from Science.

It is pure rationalism. Honestly, you shouldn't even pretend to have an opinion on 'race' until you have read this book.

In your spare time, google "Raymond B. Cattell", you will find he is recognized as a first rate scientist and keen observer of man. His only crime was daring to challenge the scientific bona fides of his fellow social scientists.
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#17175 - 12/30/08 12:09 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I have a soft spot in my heart for beyondism, however untenable it might be in practice. Meritocracy and social darwinism, as wonderful as they are, have a literal army of pop memetics lined up and ready to kick their ass should they ever come into the forefront.

I mirror his opinions on eugenics, though. In fact it might have been one of his works that convinced me, it has been a LONNNNG time since I have seen that name come up :P
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#17197 - 12/30/08 12:23 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dan_Dread]
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*reads about Beyondism*

HOLY CRAP I JUST SHAT BRICKS!

Really, the concept of deifying genetics and evolution is quite thought-provoking. If it weren't for the Nazi association with eugenics, this could probably have caught on with the masses.

Of course it all seems very pie-in-the-sky... but then again I could imagine something like this arising in the distant future.
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#17198 - 12/30/08 03:18 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: The Zebu]
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Really, Beyondism was Cattell's appeal to his fellow academics in the social sciences. He viewed many of the ideas in Psychology and Sociology to be little more than 'Revealed Knowledge' that were never exposed to the rigors of the scientific method.

However, these same ideas have become part of the popular culture through the mechanism of pop-psychology.

Personally, I would avoid cursorily reading reviews and precis of Beyondism. Dive directly into Cattell and get the goods from the source. Most people do not understand Beyondism. Every summation of the work that I have seen is colored by the biases of the writer.
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#17199 - 12/30/08 03:34 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Well, in that case fist.
Any books/papers/essays you recommend from this person about this certain subject?
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#17202 - 12/30/08 04:33 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I've been reading through some of his works, which I could track online and I admit, some of his ideas are nice -but not that original- but at the same time, I do find him a puritan idealistic little bitch at other levels. There is this general rule that if you want to know what someone is all about, look what he has to say about sex.

I've been dabbling into idealistic solutions ranging from leftish to right for certain abstract problems in the past but there is a point that one has to conclude that idealism equals crap in all cases, including beyondism.

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#17204 - 12/30/08 04:47 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dimitri]
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Well, in that case fist.
Any books/papers/essays you recommend from this person about this certain subject?


You really have a hard time following along with discussions don't you?
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#17216 - 12/30/08 06:07 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Diavolo]
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Clearly we are in danger of turning the next three pages into yet ANOTHER useless thread on Eugenics.

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I've been reading through some of his works, which I could track online...


Again, don't do this. Anyone interested in Eugenics, Beyondism, or elitism in general should read this book. The whole book. Then, come back and write a new thread on you impressions. I really feel it is pointless to argue with anyone on Eugenics because very few people understand the subject matter. Everyone's thinking is constipated with years of Secular Humanism's revealed knowledge.

Unfortunately, most people don't just how programmed they are. Few people possess any truly 'original' thoughts. Mostly they operate on a set of programing instructions without any consideration as to where they got these ideas in the first place!

AGAIN, Cattell approaches Eugenics from a purely SCIENTIFIC point of view. The way many people approach 'race' you would think they would also be worried about feelings of a cancer cell.

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...some of his ideas are nice -but not that original...


?

And again, this is the sort of programing I am talking about. Maybe his ideas are original. He was born in 1905. He wrote his first book in 1930. The APA (google it) gave him a lifetime achievement award in the early 90's. He was an extremely prolific scientist and writer. Given his age, he would have lived through the heyday of the Eugenics movement in Europe and the US.

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...there is a point that one has to conclude that idealism equals crap in all cases...


No. It is a goal. Nietzsche, Rand, Jefferson, LaVey all proclaimed idealized philosophies. The LHP is an azimuth, a direction, an approach to life and living. It does not end with specific destination - nor does life.

If you live your life looking for 'The Answer' you will be sorely disappointed.
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#17218 - 12/30/08 06:17 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I have been reading through most of his other book upon it: A New Morality from Science: Beyondism. At least most of what was online, sadly, not all chapters were shared.

What I have against Beyondism isn't something specific against him, it's what I have against idealism and indeed, I don't think we should debate it fully in this thread. In short, there is egocentrism and there is idealism, they're both at the opposing side of the spectrum. Then you got compassion and use. For an egocentric, compassion and use are limited to the self, for the idealist, use is a manner to serve his compassion which is not only about the self, but also about everything outside the egocentric capsule. In short, idealism is wasting compassion on changing things that have very little to do with the self. One should realize that change is nothing but a waste when it leaves the egocentric perspective. Beyondism is identical to socialism in this, all about compassion beyond the self.

D.

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#17342 - 12/31/08 11:59 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dan_Dread]
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When something looks quite fascinating but there is much wuss about, I prefer to ask politely to certain persons, who have the know-how, where I should probably start best without having to worry much if some information may be misguided/false.
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#17344 - 12/31/08 12:18 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dimitri]
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I only said what I did because you asked a question that was answered 3 or 4 posts above yours.

It is best to actually read a thread before replying to it \:\)
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#17759 - 01/07/09 01:46 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dan_Dread]
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I just finished a fun book I found at my local second-hand bookstore. "The Devil and All His Works" by Dennis Wheatley is a compendium of history on the Devil spanning many cultures throughout history. Mr. Wheatley writes from a predictable RHP perspective, but still provides relatively accurate information. Good stuff and a quick, easy read. Highly recommended for the newbie looking for some good basic info on the archetype.
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#17811 - 01/08/09 04:59 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist

Kurt Saxon.


Ah yes...His books are THE books to own...and he lives in my state just a few hours away from me. I actually feel privileged to say that.

He doesn't just make bombs, though. Be fair. He can also teach you how to build your own guns, hide shit, hand to hand, a little this and that about poison, and loads of fun things to do with the kiddoes...the list is really almost endless.

The bombs are great though. My favorite is the kit-kat bar bomb.
Followed closely by the couch-bomb.

You can bittorrent almost all of his books...or you can hit me up for an e-version if you like. I think, however, that if anyone deserves to NOT be cheated out of whatever he's charging for his stuff these days, it's him.


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#17818 - 01/08/09 08:33 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: ceruleansteel]
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Oh yes, Kurt Saxon covers a whole gambit of survivalist subjects. Some of my favorite subjects are his work on cheap living.

Every would-be free person should read his work.
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#17845 - 01/08/09 06:05 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I just started reading "The Demon Haunted World" (subtitled: Science As A Candle In The Dark) by Carl Sagan for my philosophy class of Science and The Occult; and so far it is pretty good read. I feel critical thinking is a big part of TLHP and would suggest this book to all the other skeptics and free thinking individuals.
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#18174 - 01/14/09 12:41 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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One book I feel has some worthwhile qualities that has not been mentioned thus far is “Rhinoceros” by Eugene Ionesco.

It's actually a play on the perils of social conformism or “herdism”-in particular the rise of Fascism. The play explores the various social and cultural reasons in which individuals become enamoured by a particular ideal or philosophy; which all takes place in a provincial town.

Without giving too much away, the behaviour and physical appearance of the townsfolk change-in the end they all become alike aside from the unlikely hero (A chap called Berenger).

If anyone else has read this I'd be interested to hear their thoughts on it.

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#21803 - 03/09/09 05:44 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: rich]
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I am not sure if this book has been mentioned yet. The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene is a fantastic book that I have been studying and applying for years. The book is falling apart from use. I also downloaded the audio book, which is helpful to use if you are on the go.
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#21838 - 03/10/09 12:35 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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http://satanicsingles.com/library.jsp

The site itself sucks, but they do have a well stocked online library. Check it out, there might be something you find worth reading.
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#21919 - 03/12/09 01:34 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: 6Satan6Archist6]
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This has been a most enlightening thread. I do have a few of my own favorites to add to this illustrious mix:
1) Huysmans- A rebours, and La bas
Huysmans is the greatest author of the decadent movement, and his works display a characteristic opulence that goes nowhere, that stifles the mind and soul, and describes in essence the very nightmare we have created through our untold desires.

2) De Sade- Justine
De Sade himself is as much a monument to Satanic literature as his writings. Also consider renting Salo, based off of 120 Days of Sodom.

3) Sacher-Masoch- Venus in Furs
In direct opposition to De Sade, Masoch relinquished his self control in favor of being dominated. This would hardly seem to follow LHP principles, however, in a most admirable postmodern way, Masoch shows us that allowing others to dominate and control us is the fruition of our own sick desires, hence fulfilling his own will. Food for thought, no?

4) Baudelaire- Les fleurs du mal
Need I say more?

5) J. Cowper Powys- Wolf Solent
Powys has an irresistible was of weaving Occultism into his fiction. He is loosely connected with Crowley along with others that came out of (some abandoning) the Hermetic/Esoteric philosophies- most notably Yeats, Steiner, and Regardie.

6) Walter de la Mare- selected poems
I stand my ground. The man's poetry is creepy. And I like it. Therefore is goes on the list.

7) Rudolf Steiner- Evil, Occult Science, and The Influences of Lucifer and Ahriman
Although Steiner is more typically Christic philosopher, I find these works illuminating.

8) Mark Twain- The Mysterious Stranger
Unfinished novels are always the most enlightening. Twain had many fanciful and witty ideas about Satan,

9) Goethe- Faust
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#22191 - 03/18/09 05:26 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: miriam]
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Mark Twain


I would recommend Twain to anyone willing to explore a lighted path of the left-hand course. I truly believe that the bans on his book have nothing to do with the "N-word" and everything to do with the fact that a little deeper exploration of his writings enlightens one to a less-than-christian view on life. Twain - to me - was a huge influence in my younger years.

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#22459 - 03/24/09 03:34 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I thought I would add this link to my online library.
Merc was kind enough to point me in the direction of it.
It's far from my complete library, (its just a start), but I listed a bunch of various Satanic/ Occult/ etc. books. I figure sometime in the next 4 or 5 years I'll have everything up. At least this way a bunch of stuff is up that you can check under the tags for.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/morganhell
http://www.librarything.com/catalog/morganhell

Enjoy,

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#22470 - 03/24/09 11:13 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Morgan]
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I think I mentioned them before but it could have been on the previous board, I didn't find them in this post.
Anyhow:
Three books that should be on the list or shelf of any 'advanced' satanist. Fill in advanced however you feel. You're ready when you're ready.







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#23425 - 04/18/09 03:21 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Diavolo]
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Shortly after the Church of Satan was founded, Anton LaVey came up with a reading list for Satanists, which was revised/augmented until about 1970. In 1975 the Temple of Set came up with its own list, incorporating some of the C/S one, which has continued to be fiddled with to the present. While it has been pirated all over the Net, probably the most coherent and reliable place to find it is as Appendix #14 to my Temple of Set, available here.

Category #6 pertains specifically to "Satanism", but as this thread illustrates, literature relevant to the LHP generally overflows into many other categories (which is why we came up with 24 ).

The books in #6 originally selected by Anton are identifiable by his "AL:" comments, while mine are "MA:" and other Setians' are IDd to them.

This list was much more essential in pre-Internet times, since today you can Google any subject and get flooded with information about it. Indeed if you see an interesting book on the list, try Googling its name. For example, there was a recent digression in this thread about the Necronomicon, which HPL noted in personal correspondence that he had modeled after Robert W. Chambers' The King in Yellow, about which there is an excellent site here. Of course the "model" is another "book within a book", the best takeoff on which to date being James Blish's "More Light" (difficult to find, but included herein).

As another example, William Mortensen, whose Command to Look was of key inspiration to Anton and his "Law of the Trapezoid", has a nice website here.

The only word of caution here is that there is so much information available today, on the Net and otherwise, that you run the risk of blobbing into an "armchair occultist". Keep your personal aspirations always in mind, and go after information to refine, strengthen, and correct them.
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#23802 - 04/26/09 05:47 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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While it has been pirated all over the Net, probably the most coherent and reliable place to find it is as Appendix #14 to my Temple of Set, available here.


Maybe I missed it, but was this a link to your reading list? The link seems to go to your list of personal writings and your CV.
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#23979 - 05/01/09 10:42 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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 Originally Posted By: Fist
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While it has been pirated all over the Net, probably the most coherent and reliable place to find it is as Appendix #14 to my Temple of Set, available here.


Maybe I missed it, but was this a link to your reading list? The link seems to go to your list of personal writings and your CV.

Yes, the link is to my personal page, and the reading list is one of the Appendices to the Temple of Set ebook which you can download there.
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#25009 - 05/26/09 06:29 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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If these writings have not been brought up already, then:

Albert Camus:

The Plague.

H.P. Lovecraft:

At The Mountains Of Madness
The Case of Charles Dexter Ward.


There are a great many good recommendations for reading here, and a lot of it is available online. Good hunting!

~~~ yours in Chaos, Scarlett
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#25012 - 05/26/09 08:11 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Scarlett156]
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What about these books are relevant to the LHP? Granted, most folks here enjoy Lovecraft but how does this add to anyone's understanding of the LHP?
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#26098 - 06/24/09 01:54 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I did a search on Ligotti to see if anyone had mentioned Thomas Ligotti yet. Apparently not.

So, not all his stuff is the best, but there is a particular short story (or novella?) called "The Shadow, The Darkness", which I would like to recommend. I don't want to provide spoilers, but will say that its overall themes seem rather Satanic and very inspiring. Keep an eye out for it; it appears in a collection called Teatro Grotesquo.

Edit: so, looking at Fist's last post here, probably the same criticism about relevance will be extended to my Ligotti plug. However, the "Delete Post" button doesn't seem to work for me, so it is kind of out of my hands.

G.O.D.


Edited by god.over.djinn (06/24/09 02:01 AM)
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#26144 - 06/24/09 05:57 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: god.over.djinn]
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Well, again, my point here is to ground people in their own identity using non-occult material. In the process of cementing their own sense of self, they will delve into the meta-physics of personal freedom and human interaction.

At this point, they will be a far better position to explore occult material. One of the worse things the new practitioner can do is to go straight for the low hanging fruit of the Barns & Noble 'occult' section. Most people don't understand their own basic reality. Much less, would they be in any position to affect new realities.
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#26172 - 06/25/09 12:20 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I am currently reading _Just Shut the Fuck Up and Do Something_ written by our very own Morgan.

It's an in your face, strong read. It challenges you on some levels, and has you shaking your head in agreement in others. Highly recommended for the person new to this way of life, as well as the one that has been walking this path for many years. Sometimes we need a gut check, and Morgan is more than willing to provide it, with a roundhouse.
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#26176 - 06/25/09 12:26 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: fakepropht]
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I'd be very interested in reading that, and would love to know if it's possible if I could check it out as well?
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#26177 - 06/25/09 12:34 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: fakepropht]
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I'm reading through it as well. And I like what I see so far.

Spiderbreeder: I am sure if you asked she would provide you with a copy.
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#26642 - 07/02/09 04:25 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: fakepropht]
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Thank You.
I am glad that the people who have read my book have enjoyed it.
I wasn't expecting to get rich with the book, I thought it was just something that had to be organized and written down.

Some people have the signed limited edition paper version of my book. Even though I have it for sale on my website, if you ask and send me you your email address I will send you the pdf. version for free.

Enjoy,
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#26644 - 07/02/09 06:00 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Morgan]
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I've also read Morgan's book.

It was just the kick in the ass I needed to get out of a false feeling of complacency I've let myself lapse into about certain situations in my life lately- the part where it states if you don't like a situation, don't whine about it, 'Just Shut The Fuck Up And Do Something" is so bloody true.

Good on you Morgan, Fantastic read! ;\)
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#27742 - 07/30/09 02:37 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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I've always admired Blake's work, but one thing I recently noticed that I never had before, is that in all of Blake's paintings, Satan and the fallen angels are visually indistinguishable from the other angels- that is, most artists (like Dore) drew Lucifer and the others as having batlike wings-- Blake's Satan, on the other hand, is still thoroughly angelic.
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#28086 - 08/07/09 05:30 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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I'd like to add these if nobodies mentioned them yet.

The Outsider by Colin Wilson, this book was very profound when I read it, and had an immediate impact, definately brings up some interesting philosophical and existential points.

The Third Chimpanzee which deals with human evolution and our place in relation to our cousins.


And Les Chants De Moldoror which I plan on ordering soon, it is a truly diabolical work with a main character described by many as a "Satanic Anti-Hero."
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#28088 - 08/07/09 06:56 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Morbid Rex]
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 Originally Posted By: Morbid Rex

The Third Chimpanzee which deals with human evolution and our place in relation to our cousins.


Yup, if a non-fiction writer can be categorised as having merit or not according to whether or not they have a significant impact on your worldview, then Dr. Diamond is right up there. I thought Guns, Germs & Steel was even better than Rise & Fall of the Third Chimpanzee.

I also liked Stephen Jay Gould's Life's Grandeur (US title: Full House) for a counter-anthropocentric look at the statistical mechanisms that drive evolution.

Furthermore, entry-level texts on the philosophy of science generally seem geared towards developing the student's critical thinking skills. As such skills also behove the Satanist, the following books may be added to recommendations already given:
  • What is this thing called science? by Alan Chalmers
  • Sex and Death: An Introduction to Philosophy of Biology by Kim Sterelny & Paul E. Griffiths

Chalmers in particular investigates many competing theories on how science ideally should be conducted, how it is actually conducted by scientists, and how much importance we should ascribe to scientific results.

Google Books has partial preview available for this book, including the table of contents. My personal favourite philosophies presented are Feyerabend's "science is a form of sorcery", and Bayesian theories of knowledge which describes truth in probabilistic terms based on the amount of supporting evidence available.


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#33765 - 01/09/10 07:10 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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Friedrich Nietzsche. "The Antichrist"

Alain Daniélou: "Shiva and Dionysos", "The shivaism"

André Gide: "The Inmoralist"

Oscar Wild: "The Doyan Gray Portrait"

Giovanni Papini: "Gog".

Comte de Lautréamont: "Les Chants de Maldoror"

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#33813 - 01/10/10 01:05 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Cesare Borgia]
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I obtained Maldoror a week ago; a fabulous book; one of the few true "Anti-Heroes" that doesn't soften up at the end (like in every modern story) or degenerate into a moustache-twirling caricature (I'm looking at you, Milton).

I'm currently going through all of DeSade's stuff I missed a while ago; starting with Justine.


Edited by The Zebu (01/10/10 01:17 PM)
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#34088 - 01/17/10 04:47 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Copyright 1967, The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris is the classic explication of the seventh of the Nine Satanic Statements. Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Naked-Ape-Zoologis...238&sr=1-1#noop

Copyright 2005, Power, Sex, Suicide: Mitochondria and the Meaning of Life by Nick Lane, is, among many other things, a potent explication of how a causal chain of events unguided by sapience could produce the mechanics of biology, and this will help inocculate you against the arguments of intelligent design, fortifying and buttressing Atheism within you, so that the second and third of the Nine Satanic Statements can find safe haven within your mental apparatus, ultimately to become a part of your self-programming. But also, if nothing else, this book is one of the most intriguing and exciting works of popular biology ever written. Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Power-Sex-Suicide-...467&sr=1-1#noop
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#34697 - 01/28/10 02:06 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Concerning Books: I recomend these to start your LHP Initiation

Webb:
Uncle Setnakt's Essential Guide to the LHP
Seven Faces of Darkness
Mysteries of the ToS: Inner teachings of the LHP
The Fire and the Force

Steven Flowers/Edred Thorsson:

Lords of the LHP
Black runa
Red Runa
Green Runa
Blue Runa
A Book of Thoth
Carnal Alchemy
Hermetic Magic
Nine Doors of Midgard
The Book of Ogham
The Secret King

(I'm missing a few more I'm sure off the top of my head)

P.D. Ouspensky:

The psychology of Man's Possible Evolution
The Fourth way
Tertium Organum
New model of the universe
Conscience: search for truth

Robert Green:

48 laws of Power
The Art of Seduction

LaVey,
Everything published.



Nietzsche:

Thus Spake Zarathustra
Hammer of the Gods
The Antichrist
Beyond Good and Evil
The Will to Power

Concerning files and online:

I've literally read and printed everything I've ever searched for concerning "Setian philosophy" online, including everything from Aquino and the Tablets of Set. But the Tablets are older versions, most likely unrevised versions from the 80's. Including Balanones Work..ect.


I've spent the last ten years building a pretty proficient library in its own designated room, (was a dream of mine) i have a couple thousand titles, (not all are of LHP influence) but these above are the ones I've shoved my face in countless times and studied while taking notes. I'm sure I'm forgetting a handful.



Please, if you have more titles?

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#34706 - 01/28/10 04:13 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Liber Belial and Processus Satanae. Both are of interest, and quite obscure.

http://www.wierus.com/catalog/processus/

Sade
John Wilmot
Thomas Hobbes

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#34723 - 01/28/10 09:38 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Simon Jester]
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 Originally Posted By: Simon Jester
Liber Belial and Processus Satanae. Both are of interest, and quite obscure.

http://www.wierus.com/catalog/processus/


Yes... looks extremely intriuging, but how am i to purchase it? Looks very rare my friend. Are there newer publications?
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#34752 - 01/28/10 07:22 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Valor]
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Google Bartolus de Saxoferrato Processus Satanae. It appears to be available in pdf.

This might be of interest to Redbeard fans:

I Beheld Desmond As Lightening Fall—to Chicago! (The Story of Arthur Desmond, 'Might Is Right' and 'Ragnar Redbeard')
http://www.darrellwconder.com/arthurdesmond.html

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#34754 - 01/28/10 08:03 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Simon Jester]
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Again, for those who missed it the first time, the idea is to ground the new practitioner in his own philosophical identity. Initially, one should avoid the low hanging fruit of ostensibly 'occult' material.

The new practitioner often gravitates to the occult with certain prejudices and expectations. If they lack any solid philosophical grounding they will be quite unprepared to separate revealed knowledge from essential truth.

As for "Gun, Germs, and Steel" and "The Third Chimpanzee".....

Again, while they have some interesting observations, their conclusions are quite biased toward the annoying revealed knowledge of White Light Secular Humanism. They fall in direct contrast to more fundamental LHP material like "Might Is Right."

The fact remains that there are, IN FACT, objectively superior cultures and species. When cultures or species find themselves in competition they will often find themselves in conflict. These conflicts usually yield clear winners and clear losers.

If anyone is looking for sympathy they can find in the dictionary between 'shit' and 'syphilis.'
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#34755 - 01/28/10 08:06 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I've been following this thread for a while, and I've enjoyed it immensely. I've noted a (large) number of books and topics to add to my list.

At the risk of going off-topic (since Fist restricted his initial list to philosophy), I'd like to mention two that you may or may not find useful: "Sociobiology" and "On Human Nature" by Edward Wilson. In accordance with the seventh Satanic Statement ("Satan represents Man as just another animal ..."), they are useful for their explanation of much of human behavior in purely biological/sociological terms.

(Obligatory note: I have not yet finished them.)
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#34759 - 01/28/10 09:03 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I tend to agree with Fist here.

I am not sure if he would agree with this post though.

Fists original list of books (seems to me) to be philosophical in nature and they are focused on revealing the essential truth of the individual, the real world in which he or she dwells and the real relationships which exist between individuals in that world.

The key to this list seems to be - ground yourself in gritty reality first, and then afterwards, go on and study other works.

The basis or core is set first, and than as result, you have a secure position from which to critically assess additional works.

I identified myself as a Satanist years ago, by reading a number of the works on Fist’s list and regarding them as complete common sense.

I studied the works of Dr. LaVey, Nietzsche, Redbeard and Machiavelli in particular and found that those works made an enormous amount of sense to me.

I like other types of good books, including history and some occult works, but in my opinion those works must come second to the key ones, which Fist has identified.

Other good and relevant works elaborate and enlarge and unpack to some extent, Fist’s list establishes, in my opinion.

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#34853 - 01/31/10 01:13 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: MatthewJ1
The key to this list seems to be - ground yourself in gritty reality first, and then afterwards, go on and study other works.


Very true..
We must "first" find which is absolute to the Self. Once this is established we can then deduce these Works and narrow them down to refine the Self. Once Refinement begins it triggers rare moments of clarity. These moments open door to our potential. If we are wise, we remanifest.


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#34950 - 02/01/10 03:28 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I hope this isn't deemed random, but is there any public libraries that would carry a copy of th Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey? I wish to read it to expand my knowledge and one day gain a membership to the Church of Satan, but my mother, unfortunately, will not allow me to read it in her house, for she beleives in the power of books and doesnt want her house taken by a demon. I respect my mother's tolerance and need to find a copy I could read outside my home. Any help?
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#34952 - 02/01/10 03:45 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Demon Heretic666]
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 Originally Posted By: Demon Heretic666
I hope this isn't deemed random, but is there any public libraries that would carry a copy of th satanic bible by Anton LaVey? I wish to read it to expand my knowledge and one day gain a membership to the Church of Satan, but my mother, unfortunately, will not allow me to read it in her house, for she beleives in the power of books and doesnt want her house taken by a demon. I respect my mother's tolerance and need to find a copy I could read outside my home. Any help?


I dont know where you are but it should be avaliable in all the big libraries. My local library does not have it but the big ones in the city does. Why not go there and ask?

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#34953 - 02/01/10 03:50 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: TheInsane]
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Guys, it's right here on this site...

Click on the Media Room link at the top right and download the .pdf.
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#34954 - 02/01/10 03:53 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Demon Heretic666]
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Check out the Media Room here. There is an ecopy of it for you to use.

Depending on where you are, I wouldn't count on one in a public library. They tend to be stolen or destroyed.
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#35089 - 02/03/10 11:23 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Rival Caesars by Desmond Dilg. Anyone familiar with Redbeard will find value here.
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#35092 - 02/04/10 03:10 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Clarence]
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 Originally Posted By: Clarence
Rival Caesars by Desmond Dilg. Anyone familiar with Redbeard will find value here.


"A romance of ambition, love and war : being the tale of a Vice-President, a Major-General and three brilliant and beautiful women (Unknown Binding)" - according to Amazon, where the book is listed as out of print and is currently unavailable.

Will you say a little more about the might is right connection?
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#35127 - 02/04/10 10:24 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Baron dHolbach]
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A Google search produced better results.

This is quite involved, so I will defer to Mr. Conder:

http://www.darrellwconder.com/rivalcaesars.html

Simon Jester has already mentioned Darrell Conder's Redbeard biography: I Beheld Desmond as Lightening Fall—to Chicago! (The Story of Arthur Desmond, 'Ragnar Redbeard' & Might Is Right).

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#36698 - 03/18/10 05:55 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I just checked at my local library, and the only books from this list that are available, are the books written by Friedrich Nietzsche and John Locke. I'm planning on reading "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" ("Aldus sprak Zarathoestra") and "A Letter Concerning Toleration" ("Een brief over tolerantie"), and will update this post with my thoughts on them after reading.
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#36706 - 03/18/10 12:48 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: GiantRubberDuck]
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There is an excellent collection of LHP literature free to downlaod at http://goatofmendes.ning.com/ - just click on the link for Mendes Library. Run by our pal, Born. \:\)
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#37904 - 04/20/10 04:01 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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Do you know any thing about Zarathustra?

Zoroaster or Zarathushtra, also referred to as Zartosht (Persian: زرتشت), was an ancient Iranian prophet, philosopher and religious poet. Scholars believe that he lived sometime between 1750 and 1500 BC or between 1400 and 1200 BC, although Iranian tradition places him at about 570 BC. The traditional Parsi people of India place the Prophet as older than 6000 BC [1] . The hymns attributed to him, the Gathas, are at the liturgical core of Zoroastrianism.
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#37910 - 04/20/10 05:20 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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Howard Bloom's the lucifer principle is now on my list of books to read.
I recently read Crowley's 4th book as a lark. I found it entertaining in gibberish kind of way. Does anyone else notice the similarities between Crowley's writings and buddhism? Perhaps it was his actual references to yoga that gave me such a thought.

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#37930 - 04/20/10 12:37 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Miss May]
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 Originally Posted By: Miss May
Howard Bloom's the lucifer principle is now on my list of books to read.
I recently read Crowley's 4th book as a lark. I found it entertaining in gibberish kind of way. Does anyone else notice the similarities between Crowley's writings and buddhism? Perhaps it was his actual references to yoga that gave me such a thought.


Crowley did have a good eye towards the east so you can indeed see a lot of influence from Asia in his work.

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#37949 - 04/20/10 10:00 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: TheInsane]
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Currently I am reading a descent work of fiction with LHP overtones:
"The Stars My Destination" by Alfred Bester

I am also reading "Lords of the Left Hand Path" by Stephen Flowers.

Next up on the list are:
"The People's Plato"
"Tantra Without Tears" by Christopher Hyatt
"The War Against Sleep" by Colin Wilson

Recently I obtained a copy of "Demons Of The Flesh" by Nicholas and Zeena Schreck. I have yet to crack the cover. Has anyone here read it and care to share thoughts?

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#37953 - 04/20/10 11:09 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: bds23]
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Actually, I've had a pdf of it sitting in my documents folder but never really got through reading it until a few weeks ago.

It's an excellent work on the subject of sex magic in general, not just the LHP. I've never been a huge fan of the drama surrounding the Schrecks or their terrible PR skills, but Demons of the Flesh is a pretty darn good book. It treats the subject with a sobering amount of skepticism, although it does take a few imaginative liberties in its own favor; ie, the idea that Gnostic clerics actually practiced physical sex magic and semen-eating rituals.
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#38089 - 04/25/10 06:45 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Hello,What for me is a very good lidel pocket book,in this day's about 3,00$,now in secend handbooks, from 150 $ and 280$ ,its "The Devils Anvenger" by Burton.H.Wolfs,it was a book you start reading and stop when it was out.
For me it was a happy nice and chort to DR.La Vey and is living in this day's.......San Francisco,

GreetZ Indrieus
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#39392 - 06/18/10 02:29 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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I'm currently reading "Might Is Right".

One book I haven't seen posted here is:

The Book Of Five Rings - Miyamoto Musashi
(I wouldn't call Musashi's book an LHP book. Nevertheless, a satanist can definitely find it useful)
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#40819 - 07/25/10 10:04 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Knievel74]
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Not to barge in but I'm ordering my copy of Michael W. Ford's Bible of the Adversary. His Luciferian philosophy is very interesting and good for thought. I find myself being very inspired by his writings. Though I don't really understand his "spirituality" twist on his Luciferianism.
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#41319 - 08/02/10 06:14 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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 Originally Posted By: LUCIFERIFIC
For example the Sun. Objectively its just a Sun- a round thing in the sky that shines and is hot. Thats it. Everything else we know about it (the other 90 percent) or believe it to be, comes from a subjective process of thinking, reasoning, and observation.


I really agree here. We cannot separate our observations from ourselves; that much at least Heisenberg tells us. What we can do is use ourselves as a scientific instrument to perceive the world around us.

To my mind, Rand is a weaker more consumerist restatement of Nietzsche, and I don't have any use for her.
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#41952 - 08/15/10 04:42 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: SODOMIZER]
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Hi,
I don't know how many of us can read french, but this following book is the only I found talking about a satanic tarot (27 cards, called " Les Arcanes Noirs " in French, " The Black Arcana ":
http://www.thebookedition.com/les-arcanes-noirs-de-panthee-p-42612.html
But, I don't know where I can found the cards...
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#41953 - 08/15/10 09:06 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Geheimnis]
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Thanks, Geheimnis! I can read French sufficiently to follow a simple text-book, which is what this looks like. I'm wondering, why 27 cards? Maybe the 22 major Arcana are used and then 4 for the Four Elements or Cardinal Directions plus one "Joker"? The text says that the cards are very simple to use with five spreads which can be applied to any question or situation. The tone suggests(to me)a possible Gypsy origin - like that attributed to the designs of the Grand Etteilla deck - as their divinatory tradition is passed down orally and so lends itself to a certain amount of learning by rote. An ability to visualise the cards in a variety of spreads and quickly link their appearance and cross-influence to a given situation was also necessary as this could not be written down.
I'll certainly take another look at this. I've been using Tarot for over 30 years and haven't seen this one before. \:\)
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#41955 - 08/15/10 11:19 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Geheimnis]
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Again, I will point this out as required....

When you read this thread, start from the beginning. The purpose of this thread to steel your own philosophical view point before delving into occult material. Most practitioners, especially new practitioners, do not have a solid existential foundation. They can hardly be expected to build more esoteric metaphysical or religious belief system on such a soft foundation.
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#42209 - 08/22/10 03:33 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Geheimnis]
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Hi,
I bought another book from Panthée.
Does anyone know something about him or her?
He (or she) must be a High Satanic Priest.
This book is called "Devenir Sorcier" which means "Becoming a Witch"...
I start the training...we'll see...

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#42210 - 08/22/10 03:37 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: felixgarnet]
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Hi Felix...
I've bought the book...the 27 cards have nothing to see with the common Tarot!
Each time, we found the number 9! Wich is Satan number!
The spreads are really unusual!
The message is said to come from Astaroth by the command of Satan himself...if you read well, just a few lines in the very beginning of the book...how strange it is!

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#42212 - 08/22/10 07:29 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Geheimnis]
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Thank you for your update, Geheimnis. However, I fear your enthusiasm for these discoveries is unlikely to be shared by members here. It's interesting that the Tarot deck you mention is so unusual but nobody here would take seriously the assertion that anything came from "Satan himself" and why on earth should 9 be Satan's number? Rather than 666, 123 or 27.5?
I know nothing of this Panthee person but can assure you that no self-respecting Satanist would speak of teaching someone to be a witch. We are not witches and, so far as I know, there is no such thing as a Satanic High Priest outside the hierarchy of specific orders.
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#42221 - 08/22/10 12:36 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: felixgarnet]
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1: please stop prattling on about nonsense in Fists thread. he has asked nicely several times.

2: There is no 'we' here , and I recommend you read 'the Satanic witch' if you feel like there are no Satanic witches. Please don't presume to speak for others, especially if your grasp of Satanic material isn't exactly robust.
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#42222 - 08/22/10 12:49 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dan_Dread]
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To get the thread back on track, I am unsure if anyone has mentioned Max Stirner (1806 – 1856), and his works, The False Principle of our Education, Art and Religion, and The Ego and Its Own. He is a very big influence on my thought, and in my opinions one of the unsung fathers of LHP memetics.
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#42224 - 08/22/10 12:58 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Was that addressed to me, Dan? I read "The Satanic Witch" many years ago. I didn't realise that anyone on here might willingly accept the identity of "witch" due to its usual conflation with Wicca. If they have I am sure they will draw my attention to that fact.
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#42226 - 08/22/10 01:15 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: felixgarnet]
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Yes, that was addressed to you, that is why I replied to you, and not someone else. ;\) Throughout this thread, Fist has asked several times to keep this shit on track. If you don't understand what this thread is for, read the OP again.

And yes, many Satanic females identify as Satanic witches. That you are unaware of this is not all that important,but it doesn't exactly place you in a position to be speaking for everyone.

Now can we cut the shit and get the thread back on track? If you can't add to it don't post.
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#42228 - 08/22/10 01:55 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dan_Dread]
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The fist name of the Satanic Witch was,in yello hardcore and the name;"The Copmplet Witch"
GreetZ Indrieus


Edited by Indrieus (08/22/10 01:57 PM)
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#42229 - 08/22/10 02:06 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Indrieus]
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Felix: A Satanic Witch is a witch in her own right with nothing whatsoever to do with Wicca or any such religion. We of the Church of Satan have long called our women witches as a badge of honor, and The Satanic Witch (The COMPLEAT WITCH, originally,) is a virtual McGuffy's Reader on how a woman might effectively ply her "witchly wiles." And while I don't know about the women under this regime, those who came up within the Church of Satan I knew take that moniker seriously.

Aside from the terminologies of the II° and its gender identity of Witch and Warlock, women of all strata within The Church of Satan were proud of their degree within the Church, to be sure... but no title carries more honor in earning one's bones within the Church as WITCH.
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#42231 - 08/22/10 02:52 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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The 48 Laws of Power has been mentioned before, by both Rasha and Valor, but I don’t think it can be overemphasized. It gives the reader a tidy framework in which to arrange most all of what one reads on the LHP, and makes multiple references and examples, many of which are drawn from the more classical works here. The references it makes also serve as springboards to possibly inspire future reading.

Also excellent reading:
Abraham Maslow: “A Theory of Human Motivation”
Lawrence Kohlberg: The Philosophy of Moral Development & The Psychology of Moral Development
Robert Heinlein: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Éttiene de la Boétie: “The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude”
Nancy Etcoff: Survival of the Prettiest
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#42236 - 08/22/10 04:11 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Stirner has been mentioned in this area of the forum in a separate thread, but should be a welcome addition here. For others' edification, here is a link to a pdf file of The Ego and His Own. As far as I can tell, this edition is in the public domain, so enjoy!
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#42300 - 08/23/10 01:33 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Draculesti]
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I was just thinking someone who try to change events using his/her "mental" ou "psychic" power or with the help of invisible forces can be called a witch.
Panthée doesn't talk about Satanism, or Wicca in his book "Devenir Sorcier"...but, in the introduction of the book "Les Arcanes Noirs" and also the names of cards show for me that he/she must be Satanist.

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#42303 - 08/23/10 04:02 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Geheimnis]
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I would like to add that i have greatly enjoyed my last couple of weeks reading The Satanic Scriptures.
It is very crisp in its presentation and very informative.
I find myself a fan of Peter H. Gilmore's Personal Views and truth.

Hence i would like to know about any-other books that he has written.

Please and thank you.

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#42308 - 08/23/10 06:01 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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If you could refer one book to read which would it be? I must add that when a student in my first freshmen philosophy class we were required to memorize the Communist Manifesto, so please choose another!

Thanks for the list.

E.

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#42319 - 08/23/10 08:37 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: creativevalue]
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I first read the Communist Manifesto at 15. That was in 1985 when it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that we were going have a nuclear war with the Soviets. Marx pretty much convinced me that I didn't want anything to do with Communism.

So, since you asked, let's take things in the other direction. Read "Might Makes Right" and get back to me.
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#42368 - 08/24/10 07:55 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Thank you for the referral to read "Might Makes Right". I will take a read of it.

The fear of nuclear war was very real, but our society was very innocent in its idealism. Acceptance of fear was part of life. World War II ended only 30 years before. I was 15 in the 1970's. I miss the idealism and the humanism. There was something romantic about looking for nuclear havens to survive the next holocaust. Of course living in NY and attending a religious school, we just assumed it would be us.

Here is part of history for you to watch on You Tube. One of the greatest speech's ever made was given by Stalin to the Soviet troops the day before the Germans made their final attack on Moscow. If Stalin had not stayed in Moscow, and had not given that speech, the Russian Army may have lost the war, leading to an axis invasion of the Eastern USA (Germany had ships waiting to invade the east coast of the US, and had plans to use nuclear bombs on NY and DC).

You may watch the video on YouTube, search the following title.

Stalin speech - November 7, 1941[English subtitles]

Thank you for the book.

E.

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#44105 - 11/16/10 07:58 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I'm not sure if he has already been mentioned, but Blaise Cendrars strikes me as a satanic figure of sorts. His life and writings. Particularly the novels:

Moravagine

Dan Yack & its sequel

Gold: Being the Marvellous History of General John Augustus Sutter.

Much like Celine, his fiction is often semi-autobiographical - to some extent. I, for one, have found a kindred spirit therein.

As a post script I would suggest that those who have read Myngath should probably take a look at A Posthumous Confession by Marcellus Emants. I can't help but wonder if DWM saw something of himself in Termeer.

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#45376 - 12/21/10 01:34 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Clarence]
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The Way to Godhood

Don't know if anyone else ever brought this up before, but I came across this one a while ago, apparently it dates to 1914. The book is couched in generally Christian-influenced terminology, but the doctrine espoused is one of self-deification through a sort of Nietzschean master-morality, heavily influenced by the concepts of rational self-interest and social Darwinism. Its ideology is called "The New Commandment". In any case, the resemblance to LaVey's Satanism is most striking, and this was likely a significant influence in the formation of his ideas.
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#45406 - 12/21/10 08:43 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: The Zebu]
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Clymer was an interesting chap, all right, but not really ASLV's cup of tea.

The Rosicrucians continue to rather puzzle me, in that they work very hard at the Mysteries but seem not quite to know what to do with them. I sometimes wonder what Western history would have been like if Rosicrucianism instead of Christianity had been the dominant "thing". More fun, anyway.
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#45407 - 12/21/10 08:52 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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At least we'd have cooler places to sit and meditate or read a book... like the Rosicrucian compound in San Jose:


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#45411 - 12/21/10 10:07 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Jake999]
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The AMORC Park is a very beautiful and meticulously-kept place, and happily is open to the public, including their Egyptian Museum and extensive Library. For some reason the Rosicrucians seem to be frightened of me personally, but anyone here shouldn't worry about visiting if you're in the neighborhood. [And it is very amusing to see residential San Jose on one side of the street and ancient Egyptian megabuildings on the other.]
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#45571 - 12/24/10 11:32 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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I remember reading about the area online and drooling over the prospects of visiting their library, avid bibliolator that I am.

I've been reading up on Rosicrucianism lately, but am having a difficult time mentally bridging the lengthy rennaisance-era tracts on spirituality couched in deliberately-convoluted alchemical metaphors, with the sort of vague Christian/Freemason-ish approaches modern groups seem to take.
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#46555 - 01/11/11 05:28 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: The Zebu]
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In my opinion to recommend anything by LaVey has become redundant. Not that I exclude him from my required reding list. However Ragner Redbeard should be considered required reading.
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#46602 - 01/12/11 01:41 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: thisoldhippy420]
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As much as I am over prodding the newbs...

 Originally Posted By: thisoldhippy420
In my opinion to recommend anything by LaVey has become redundant. Not that I exclude him from my required reding list. However Ragner Redbeard should be considered required reading.

Most who have made it this far have already read LaVey and Might Is Right (or survival of the fittest) was mentioned a few replies up as well as on the first page in case you missed it.

I do look forward to your contribution to the forum.

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#46623 - 01/12/11 09:52 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: creativevalue]
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If you could refer one book to read which would it be?


The Lucifer Principle. The real Satanic Bible, in my humble opinion. If you "get it" and it resonates, you are a Satanist ipso facto.

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#46635 - 01/12/11 01:32 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Jason King]
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I've heard that book being suggested but haven't eead it yet! I definetly should be placeing that one on my amazon wish list.
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#46639 - 01/12/11 02:57 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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 Originally Posted By: Michael A.Aquino

The Rosicrucians continue to rather puzzle me, in that they work very hard at the Mysteries but seem not quite to know what to do with them. I sometimes wonder what Western history would have been like if Rosicrucianism instead of Christianity had been the dominant "thing". More fun, anyway.


I dunno, most of the RHP Mysteries that I've looked into seem to want to hover in a middle ground - they're composed of fractally complicated metaphors, but never wind up at anything of substance. Instead, they assume some sort of Abrahamic underpinning exists. Unless I'm just not looking at the right stuff, shrug.

If that's the case, they're not exclusive ... but the thought remains, what would Western history have been like if Rosicrucianism (or another RHP Mystery) was ubiquitious ...
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#46642 - 01/12/11 03:25 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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 Originally Posted By: Michael A.Aquino
I sometimes wonder what Western history would have been like if Rosicrucianism instead of Christianity had been the dominant "thing".


You bring up an interesting question! My theory is things might be a little different. We would definetly see more Rosicrucian compounds in the wourld. And chances are there would be more Rosicrucians in the world.

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#46643 - 01/12/11 03:29 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: thisoldhippy420]
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 Originally Posted By: thisoldhippy420
 Originally Posted By: Michael A.Aquino
I sometimes wonder what Western history would have been like if Rosicrucianism instead of Christianity had been the dominant "thing".


You bring up an interesting question! My theory is things might be a little different. We would definetly see more Rosicrucian compounds in the wourld. And chances are there would be more Rosicrucians in the world.


For this conclusion I can't but reward you with a bouquet of handpicked flowers.

You have to be a genius. Truly.

D.


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#46653 - 01/12/11 05:18 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Diavolo]
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And, since we are on a Rosicrucian tangent!...

Has anyone read any good secular LHP books lately?

No? Maybe a book about puppies then?
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#46659 - 01/12/11 06:20 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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 Quote:
any good secular LHP books

The Naked Ape, by Desmond Morris
The Prince, by Old Nick

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a book about puppies

The Wolfen, by Whitley Strieber
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#46666 - 01/12/11 08:24 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Aklo]
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@Diavolo I honestly wish I was a genius because if I was, I'd be a millionaire by now.

@Aklo Looks like some good reads!

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#46824 - 01/15/11 03:50 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Thanks brother. I don't own a.s.zara, but the pdf is good.
Thanks again and I hope I can return the favour 1 day.
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#46980 - 01/18/11 08:40 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: GiloFrost]
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Meh, some of my friends are Rosicrucians (AMORC). Really isn't much different than the O.T.O. except that they apparently have their financial shit way more together and as a whole it is far more organized. I was invited to join, but personally I find myself at odds with theosophy so I refused.

It is conventional old-school secret-keeping masonic lodge, but really they aren't doing anything DIFFERENT other than they actually have some mystical paths. Both of these (AMORC and OTO) are shadow organizations for about 20 other little groups of pagans. You can generally look up 99% of the occult authors you've read and I guarantee if you type 'rosicrucian' or 'OTO' after their name something will come up.

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#47016 - 01/19/11 10:53 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Mindmaster]
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@Mindmaster I've heard of the Rosicrucians and the O.T.O but know little of them. Although the whole secrecy aspect is quite interesting!
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#47039 - 01/19/11 10:35 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: thisoldhippy420]
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This post was a great resource. I humbly suggest all the crap filler posts (like the entirety of page 11 and beyond) be stricken from the record, so it can be so again.

If that is easily possible. Just a thought...
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#47047 - 01/20/11 05:35 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Dan_Dread]
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I looked at this post a while a go I will be copying and pasting the entire list highlighting the ones that interest me specifically to add to my reading list. Though I have plenty on my plate at the moment I never have a problem with a few good sugguestions. I can copy and paste the entire list back here unedited descriptions appendixed and without itemising my particular preferences. The only thing I will exclude is double recommendations so the post is concise.
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#47059 - 01/20/11 11:14 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: thedeadidea]
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The one I really enjoyed recently is the Hexagradior. Although it is not only LHP but concentrates on the magick in general but still has a big section with Satanic rituals, some of them in Latin. It has an overview of magick, what religions had to do with it over the history, how to train the influence over the aether and events etc.

It's such a combination of how-to stuff with history of magick, religious healings and other examples of "mind over matter" that I had to google every now and then to check if events it refers to are an actual fact or not (yup, they were).

The book has a certain atmosphere. That combination of histories of religions, a chapter about predestination/destiny, stuff in Latin and Hebrew... I haven't seen much that would compare to it and I'd love to find more stuff like it.

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#47117 - 01/21/11 12:49 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: LittleNicky]
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Did you retards even rear the premise of this thread? The idea here is to offer new practitioners more secular titles to better cement their own identity BEFORE delving into occult material.
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#47142 - 01/21/11 03:03 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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Jean-Paul Sartre - No Exit

This is quite an old fashioned play but it is quite easy to read.
It deals with the difficulty that individuals may feel to cope with the others' gaze; the main question being: is this gaze a defining element of one's self? This is the old battle between ipseity and alterity but I guess it is a good introduction to the trend of French existentialism.

Besides, even though the most famous quotation from the play is "Hell is the Other", I guess that Garcin's statement: "One is what one wants to be" might interest the readers of this forum.
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#47197 - 01/22/11 06:57 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Phobos]
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Carl Gustav Jung

"The Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious"
"Man and his symbols"

Mircea Eliade

"The Sacred and the Profane: The Nature of Religion"
"The Myth of Eternal Return"

Ernst Junger

"On Pain"

Julius Evola

"Revolt against the modern world"
"Men among the ruins"
"Ride the Tiger"

Oswald Spengler

"The Decline of the West"

T.R. Malthus

"An Essay on the Principle of Population"

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#51059 - 03/15/11 08:11 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Gueheriet]
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Thank you Gueherit, nice to know that some folks can still read.


Ernst Junger "On Pain", eh?

Nicely done, Sir. *golf clap*.....
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#52526 - 04/08/11 09:57 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I really enjoyed might is right, thanks for recommending it. I felt that it really captured the essence of what LaVey meant in his earlier writings.
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#57405 - 07/23/11 12:15 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I just want to thank Fist, and those who stuck with the original premise, for this thread. It goes a little off track at times, but there are some great recommendations here. I've found quite a few new books to add to my reading list. I just recently found the Satanic Bible, so I'm now looking for anything to expand on Lavey's ideas.
I'd like to know what you guys think of Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People". For me personally it opened my eyes to how easily people are influenced without realizing they're being played. It also taught me to avoid being influenced by the same techniques. It's not a great intellectual work, but definitely one for those looking out for number one and trying to avoid falling victim to the same. I haven't read any of his other books, but they all seem to deal with gaining self confidence and learning to assert yourself. Both things that I think Lavey was driving at with the Satanic Bible.

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#57409 - 07/23/11 01:15 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: eurorocco]
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Greetings!

If you're looking for "Laveyism" the first place to look is the CoS website... Also, he does have 5 books of his own, and the Church of Satan book written by B.Barton about him. They are; TSB, The Satanic Rituals, The Satanic Witch, Satan Speaks, and Letters From the Devil.

Dr. Aquino has written a couple that mention him and his idea(l)s and you can find them on his website. xeper.org
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#57412 - 07/23/11 03:10 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Wicked Satanist]
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Thanks for the recommendations. The CoS website is what initially got me interested in reading TSB, and I just ordered Satan Speaks and The Devil's Notebook the other day.

I've heard mention of Aquino and the Temple of Set while researching the CoS, but I've never read anything of his until now. After skimming his site I'm looking forward to reading more. Much appreciated.

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#57718 - 07/28/11 07:56 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Seti 352]
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I like very much the Zeena and Nikolas "Demons of the Flesh...". I must read other more but in Italian... is so difficult...
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#57750 - 07/29/11 01:32 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: magnitudo]
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May I recommend "The 48 Laws of Power" and "The 33 War Strategies" by Robert Greene?? It's a great suo genesis for anyone interested in conquest-oriented thought.
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#57751 - 07/29/11 02:06 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: a. don]
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 Originally Posted By: a. don
May I recommend "The 48 Laws of Power" and "The 33 War Strategies" by Robert Greene?? It's a great suo genesis for anyone interested in conquest-oriented thought.


as a follow up i would recommend "The 50th Law" written and cowritten by Greene and non other than my favorite Philosopher, Curtis Jackson a.k.a 50Cent.

and a quote from one of his scriptures:

"bitch can't get a dolla outta me [...] i'm a muthafukkin P.I.M.P"

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#57772 - 07/29/11 01:13 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: a. don]
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thank you for your books indications, I will treasure.
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#59362 - 09/22/11 06:01 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Sinthesis]
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Personally, I've always found most anything written by Mark Twain to be rather satanic. But "A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court" is undoubtedly my favorite. For a shorter read, I would suggest his "The Mysterious Stranger". I have also found "The Psychology of Adjustment" by Laurance Frederic Shaffer and Edward Joseph Shoben,Jr. to be very useful. I also enjoy reading Thoreau's journals.
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#63402 - 01/06/12 07:59 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Rivenstar]
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I'd like to second the recommendation already made for Stephen Flowers' Lords of the Left Hand Path. Really one of, if not, the best books available on the subject.

I'd also like to, as many already in this thread have, recommend anything by H.P. Lovecraft.

Although an avowed Atheist and mechanical materialist, Lovecraft's work contains what are by far the most stirring fictional depictions of greater black magic in the English language.

Social Darwinists taken with Might Is Right may also want to acquaint themselves with the work of Herbert Spencer, if the haven't already.

Also, anyone interested in studying the psychology of the "herd" mind from a quasi-Satanic perspective might find Le Bon's The Crowd of interest as well.
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#64875 - 02/25/12 02:30 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I read some of Nietzsche and Machiavelli's works and found them a little challenging, but in general, I liked them. I'm currently finishing up reading Atlas Shrugged, and just as a piece of literature, I love it. Philosophically, I agree with a large portion of what Rand is saying, and it's nice to see things that I believe stated so eloquently. There are things that I disagree with her on (like whether we can be 100% sure that what we perceive is correct, her stance on sexuality, her stance on honesty and manipulation, and so on), but that's why I'm a Satanist, not an Objectivist, and I appreciate that Satanism is influenced by the very things that I agree with her on while discarding most of the things I disagree with her on. It makes me feel even more certain that I've chosen the right religion. I'd suggest that The Picture of Dorian Gray should be on the list as well. There's more in it than in Atlas Shrugged that I disagree with, but there are a lot of things that I agree with and think many Satanists might identify with as well, and even if you don't agree with most of it, it's still a fantastic book (and one of my personal favorites).
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#65725 - 03/26/12 08:22 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: eurorocco]
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 Originally Posted By: eurorocco
I'd like to know what you guys think of Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People".

It was hard to find a job until I found that awesome little book. Now, I'm finding it alot easier to get my own way with things, and not just getting a job. I quite like it.
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#67217 - 06/07/12 01:17 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Babylonian Dream]
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I have been reading Flowers from Hell: a Satanic Reader edited by Nikolas Schreck.

I personally regard this book as an account of the literary construction of Satan during the modern period.

The intention behind this thread, I believe, was to provide a listing of works which the individual can use to ground their own identity, rather than a listing of occult works without that necessary foundation or grounding.

I certainly think this book by Schreck does provide such a foundation, as I think that reflection on the character of Satan is a valuable means of reaching self-understanding and an appreciation of the viewpoint and the actions of Satan in the world is a valuable tool for understanding our own viewpoint and rationale for action.

I think the most interesting parts of Flowers from Hell have been the excerpt from the book by Anatole France called The Revolt of the Angels, highlighting Satan’s self-understanding as the permanent adversary of God and the divine order; and The Mysterious Stranger by Mark Twain, highlighting Satan’s realism and empiricism (and hence “his” lack of faith and “his” misanthropy) when it comes to evaluating humanity.

Satan certainly carries a number of meanings for me and probably the most enriching one for me at the moment is Satan as the silent dark other, the differance which lies within and undoes the integrity and authority of the text, the empty signifier waiting to be filled or constructed as The Other in the endless game of power struggles, politics, desire and subjectivity.

This is a good book which deserves to be read, if you can get a copy of it.

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#70381 - 08/19/12 08:55 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: ]
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Some good news - The Werewolf of Paris, written by Guy Endore, has returned to print after being out of print for decades.

This book is a lycanthropic classic and deserves to be read, particularly if you have an interest in exploring the notion of the beast in man and sado-masochism as an essential characteristic of human beings and their relations with each other.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Werewolf-Paris...rewolf+of+paris

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#74120 - 01/05/13 03:15 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: ]
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Wow, I guess with Runa Raven press going out of business Don Webb's books are suddenly gold!

I had Mysteries of the Temple of Set on my reading list and was notified that the price had gone up... to over a thousand bucks!

Anyone have one they want to sell?
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#74122 - 01/05/13 03:31 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fnord]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord
Wow, I guess with Runa Raven press going out of business Don Webb's books are suddenly gold!

I had Mysteries of the Temple of Set on my reading list and was notified that the price had gone up... to over a thousand bucks!

Anyone have one they want to sell?


Wow. I must have bought one of the last copies. I believe it was $15. I suspect it will be reprinted. I know Dr. Stephen Flowers is published through Inner Traditions now. Don Webb has indicated he has future books being published by other companies as well.

Mysteries of The Temple of Set - Ebay at $79 buy.

I won't sell, but I will message you immediately should I find a better deal. I am a bit of a collector and check on books and other items frequently.

OT: I had embarked on a print on demand inquiry/search regarding a number of 'Path relevant texts. No dice so far.





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#74131 - 01/05/13 07:49 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fnord]
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 Originally Posted By: Fnord
Wow, I guess with Runa Raven press going out of business Don Webb's books are suddenly gold!

I had Mysteries of the Temple of Set on my reading list and was notified that the price had gone up... to over a thousand bucks!

Anyone have one they want to sell?


After reading this I had to check my book collection out and see if I had anything by Don Webb. I did not happen to have a copy of Mysteries of the Temple of Set but I did find a first edition copy of The Seven Faces of Darkness (Practical Typhonian Magic) by Don Webb.

Then I opened up the book to check it out and its even signed by Webb with a little note to my father that reads.

To Rodger
The newest TOS-1 book, a gift from me to the SOA or SOD guild(I could not quite make out the guild abbreviation) Best in opening the way.

Xeper,
Don Webb

It was an interesting find I thought.


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#77724 - 07/03/13 01:48 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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You be into some serious literature.About the only book I've read is the -Hagakure-It's a book of the Sameri. The majority f it Is like a guide book of rules and principles and no budism....It's like a guide book for those that hold themselves upright...Hard to explain...But there is a threat or not threat but understaning about the code of the Samari. When you've reached a certain form of descracing the family that you should show honor by another topic........Ace
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#94034 - 10/30/14 09:06 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Fist]
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I think Franz Kafka's "The castle" and "The Trial" and Albert Camus' "The Stranger" should be a part of this list. And also
Baruch Spinoza's "Ethics" and George Orwell's "Animal Farm".



Please give reasons as to why you want them added, when you post something like this.
It gives better insight into the books and your thought processes.
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#103704 - 11/03/15 08:33 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: witch]
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Many books I love have already been mentioned... Most existential texts hit home -

Being & Nothingness by Sartre
Being & Time by Heidegger
Beyond Good & Evil by Nietzsche
Naos and other classic ONA mss

An interesting recent read inclusive of rituals was The Black Ship by Malphas.

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#103774 - 11/06/15 05:16 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: lady_aosoth]
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Naos and classic ONA texts + The Black Ship by Malphas. lol
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#104029 - 11/23/15 02:54 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: numen]
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"The Old Enemy: Satan and the Combat Myth" by Neil Forsyth, if anyone wants to go the scholarly route and read up on where the idea of a cosmic adversary started and how it developed through various cultures into the modern Satan. I also have his "The Satanic Epic", about Paradise Lost. Forsyth is a literature professor, so his books approach these stories as narratives, rather than from a Christian theological perspective. I've found them invaluable.

In the same line, Elaine Pagels' "Origin of Satan" and Russell's four books are helpful.

There's a lot of goofy "history" put forward by Satanic groups, little of it with any kind of scholarly underpinning. I think it's important to know what the actual history looks like. My next step is looking at the cultural milieu at various points of the development of the idea of Satan.

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#108002 - 08/11/16 11:00 AM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Synthesist]
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I would recommend "God and State" by Bakunin. Especially the chapters dealing with his correspondances with Mazzini.

Also, Von Clausewitz's "On War", and Frontinus Sextus Julius's "The Stratagems of War". Both are excellent reading material to apply to the everyday struggle for survival.
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#108006 - 08/11/16 02:25 PM Re: Books of the Left Hand Path [Re: Synthesist]
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 Originally Posted By: Synthesist
There's a lot of goofy "history" put forward by Satanic groups, little of it with any kind of scholarly underpinning. I think it's important to know what the actual history looks like. My next step is looking at the cultural milieu at various points of the development of the idea of Satan.

I feel your pain. Go to the Kindle [not the paperback] edition of my The Church of Satan here, click on the "Look Inside" feature, and scroll back to "Chapter 1: Antecedents", which is reproduced in full.

As a general FYI: When you're checking out books on Amazon with Kindle e-versions as well, you'll probably find a more extensive, and often better-chosen "Look Inside" feature on the Kindle page. Caveat that if the K-version is just raw text, this may not be all that helpful. All of my books have been "print replica" Kindle-ized, which results in a K-verion identical to the printed. It's the only way to handle large amounts of footnotes, which I usually have.

If you decide to write a book or two, I strongly recommend Amazon's CreateSpace as a nice, friendly, and $0 cost way to publish it. I think I've discussed this elsewhere on 600C. If you do, and decide to do a Kindle version, I strongly recommend that you download software such as the one I use, Kindle Textbook Creator, to produce a "print replica", much better than "raw Kindle"!
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#108523 - 09/08/16 04:48 PM Will to Power: Legitimate? [Re: Michael A.Aquino]
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I'm trying to finish Also Sprach Zarathustra for the third time and even though I know Will to Power was one of the recommended books here I'm having second thoughts on finishing it because it was basically redone by Nietzsche's sister in order to fit her own fascist ideology. I want to read him not her.

Does any of you consider Will to Power a good read despite that? Why?
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#109082 - 09/26/16 01:48 PM Re: Will to Power: Legitimate? [Re: Sargeist]
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Not sure if they were mentioned but

Lords of the Left Hand Path - Stephen Flowers

The Invention of Satanism - Dyrendal, Lewis, and Peterson

The works of Aquino and Webb of course.

I also really recommend reading the fiction of Lovecraft.


Edited by XeperaEmSet (09/26/16 01:49 PM)
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#111719 - 03/10/17 04:54 PM Re: Will to Power: Legitimate? [Re: XeperaEmSet]
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https://archive.org/details/TephenFlowersBlackRuna

In case Jew just didn't know.

It is there.

Do you feel guilty for hacking?
Although Webb and other authors from the temple are much harder to trace. Aquino and Webb's basic works still draw the hits. I saw Flowers' Lords of the Left Hand Path in my local shop a few days ago, $24.95.



Edited by duhsquidbilly (03/10/17 04:58 PM)
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