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#61387 - 11/14/11 12:55 PM Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist?
ClayMan Offline
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I hear they are a rare breed. They are people who believe in the Christian version of God and the Devil but choose to side themselves with the Devil and do as many so called evil things that they can before they die. Such as steal, rape, and murder. Some even go as far to give one last f**k you to God on their death bed by repenting for their sins. Basically saying. "Yeah I spit in your face my whole life but now you have to forgive me and let me into heaven anyway."
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#61403 - 11/15/11 09:37 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: ClayMan]
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They're just called Diabolists, they worship the xtian Satan as a deity, it's Theistic, or Traditional(by those who practice it) Satanism with a different name.

http://www.spiritualsatanist.com/articles/satan/diabolatry.html

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#61410 - 11/15/11 11:25 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: Managor]
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I've heard people call themselves Diabolists, Diabolaters, Satanolaters, Demonolaters, and whatever arbitrary-contrived label makes them feel better. It's all just name games.

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They are people who believe in the Christian version of God and the Devil but choose to side themselves with the Devil and do as many so called evil things that they can before they die. Such as steal, rape, and murder.


To be completely honest, most people who subscribe to overt Reverse-Christianity never stay in it for very long, and do so only out of rebellion. And it's generally a good idea to take any accusations of "Satanic Crime" with a grain of salt, since these are almost always distorted and sensationalized rumors.

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Some even go as far to give one last f**k you to God on their death bed by repenting for their sins. Basically saying. "Yeah I spit in your face my whole life but now you have to forgive me and let me into heaven anyway."


Any person with the most vulgar grasp of Christianity would probably understand that telling God you're sorry doesn't count if you don't really mean it.


Edited by The Zebu (11/15/11 11:31 AM)
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#61422 - 11/15/11 11:38 PM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: The Zebu]
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Well I'd just them idiot "satanists". I mean in my opinion diabolist=christian, dumb christian

I would necessarily call it theistic Satanism because the word theistic really just suggests not being entirely atheistic. That is to say if one does not entirely accept that there is in no way any possibility of the supernatural(in any definition) then I suppose one might be able to consider themselves theistic. But that's really all just silly semantics and frankly I don't too much thought in the accuracy labeling.

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#61437 - 11/16/11 10:50 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: Meph9]
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I won't get into the whole theistic/atheistic bifurcation, but I agree more or less. Such artificial labels like "Diabolist" only serve as a weak attempt to create more apparent "sects" in Satanism, which don't really exist in the first place.


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#61496 - 11/17/11 02:30 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: ClayMan]
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 Originally Posted By: ClayMan
I hear they are a rare breed. They are people who believe in the Christian version of God and the Devil but choose to side themselves with the Devil and do as many so called evil things that they can before they die. Such as steal, rape, and murder. Some even go as far to give one last f**k you to God on their death bed by repenting for their sins. Basically saying. "Yeah I spit in your face my whole life but now you have to forgive me and let me into heaven anyway."


If these people exist they sound like they're very, very lost.

...or they're just a bunch of immature jagoffs.
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#64147 - 01/27/12 08:12 PM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: Knievel74]
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The sad truth is the general public thinks the typical Satanist is a Diabolist. Not that it matters I soppose. I'm saying this because to some people, just hinting that I am a follower of Satan triggers something in their head that I am a pure blasphemic sinner, a Diabolist. In their heads, I am winner of 'most likely' to go to hell awards. I have kept to myself on related affairs since.
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#64148 - 01/27/12 08:52 PM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: Pulpos]
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Again, why use of the "Diabolist" label when it doesn't really mean anything? The whole significance of the name "Satanist" is that it's pretty much the most dag-nasty-evil thing the human psyche can think up. We take this corrupted title as a badge of honor because nobody else will, and by doing so we spit in the face of Nazarene moralism and unabashedly embrace the dark side of humanity that others would deny. Using some other term like "Diabolist" or "Devil Worshiper" pejoratively to refer to something somehow "worse" than a Satanist is sort of missing the point, and leading towards the very prejudices that we should be overcoming.
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#64174 - 01/29/12 03:01 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: The Zebu]
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 Originally Posted By: The Zebu
We take this corrupted title as a badge of honor because nobody else will, and by doing so we spit in the face of Nazarene moralism and unabashedly embrace the dark side of humanity that others would deny. Using some other term like "Diabolist" or "Devil Worshiper" pejoratively to refer to something somehow "worse" than a Satanist is sort of missing the point, and leading towards the very prejudices that we should be overcoming.

Why should those prejudices be overcome? There are a lot of people doing the talking about "how not that bad we really are". I'd love to see someone just stand up and tell with a straight face they indeed sacrifice babies, rape virgins and simply love to feast on the dead bodies of the Nazarene worshippers.


Why? Satanism became a fucking joke in the eye of the public. They want a bad wolf and stay in fear at night? Fine. Satanism is the practical way of the adversive. And perhaps it is about time to stop pinning and shining the good guy badge. The label itself is an indication of giving a huge middlefinger. I know better, but it doesn't mean outsiders should also..
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#64193 - 01/29/12 08:03 PM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: Dimitri]
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Why should those prejudices be overcome? There are a lot of people doing the talking about "how not that bad we really are".


Perhaps I should have clarified my statement. I meant that self-styled Satanists are the ones who would do well to overcome this prejudice, not outsiders. Indeed, it is rather idiotic to name oneself after the genius of ultimate evil, but then attempt to flash the "good guy badge" by condemning some nebulous group of people supposedly worse that Satanists.

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I'd love to see someone just stand up and tell with a straight face they indeed sacrifice babies, rape virgins and simply love to feast on the dead bodies of the Nazarene worshippers.


Talk to any "SRA survivor" and you'll get plenty of that. I've heard that we Satanists disembowel infants with chainsaws and videotape it all for snuff porn films. It sounds a lot more fun than standing around in robes and mumbling Dog Latin.
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#64200 - 01/30/12 02:53 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: The Zebu]
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Talk to any "SRA survivor" and you'll get plenty of that. I've heard that we Satanists disembowel infants with chainsaws and videotape it all for snuff porn films.

I had more people like Gilmore in mind; not so much an SRA survivor. Just as a good exercise in "how to be adversive and not to polish the good-guy badge".
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#76461 - 05/19/13 06:34 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: Dimitri]
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I've made a differentiation about such types of left hand path criminal paths under "Satanism". I've found plenty of extremists in sex circuit websites devoted to sexual Satanism, or Gay Satanism. "No Limits" of "Few Limits" and interests that ask others about animal and underage minor abuses, as well as the usual desecration of religious properties. Reminds me of medieval "Diabolism" or old scare propaganda Devil Worship, hence theism. Amusing to think about all the deathbed conversions of evil actions occultists or warped Satanists and believing they will enter the heaven concept at last rites. For atheists and materialists, wouldn't matter anyway.
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#76466 - 05/19/13 07:55 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: ClayMan]
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I often interview people for my pod-cast, such a person contacted me about two months ago. He mostly identified as a Christian-Satanist but Diabolist as well. The podcast interview never panned out. After a few conversations with this guy, he went all batshit crazy, I just stopped replying to his ranty emails and he eventually pissed off. He did participate on my group for a while on Paganspace.net.

If you care to read this hot-shitty mess, here's a link to his book:

The Christian Satanic Bible

He sent me a .pdf doc of the book to review it.

In essence, he believed in both God and the Devil. He didn't necessarily just bat for Satan he actually played both sides.

He claimed to be Asexual, but I later found that to be a bullshit claim. He had some strange behaviors, he later invited me to a social group he created called 'Fuckism'. I poked in there to see what it was all about. It was just a place for him to celebrate what he believed to be sexual perversions. This guy was obsessed with ass. He emailed me quite a few times begging me for pictures of my ass. Complete whack-job.

He did have a youtube channel for a while but after a few conversations with me, he took the entire thing down. He erected a new one where its basically an audio-diary of his life. He's mentally ill, so it's mostly anecdotes about his struggles with his illness, drug-abuse and being homeless.

I stopped paying attention to him. He seemed to want me to put him on air to promote his book, but would completely chicken-out when I asked him to call me so I could screen him before deciding whether it was worth my time.

He told me I was too intimidating and a bunch of other incoherent blatherings in the messages he sent me.

I talk to anyone really, I don't hold bias towards any particular use of Satan (Devil, Lucifer, Demons, whatever). I spent an entire year covering Theistic Satanism on my show. If you're interested in the wrap-up, here's a link:

Theistic Satanism: A Year in Review
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#77843 - 07/08/13 06:51 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: Knievel74]
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True Diabolist Satanists are a rarity, but they do exist. Most people who claim this label are just posers who do it to piss people off. Most ideas about Diabolist Satanic cults are pure superstition, from Christian nut jobs who actually believe the Satanic Panic from the 80s was for a good reason.

There are on occasion people who actually take 'doing Satan's evil deeds' seriously though. They do actually commit evil acts purely in the name of evil, sacrificing children and animals, torturing people, raping virgins etc.

These types are the true nut jobs, and are truly looking to be slaves to Satan. Being a theistic Satanist myself, I understand the 'dark god' attraction, but I don't understand why one would rebel just to be a slave to another god. Theistic Satanists I've spoken to for the most part, see Satan as a guider rather than a master.

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#77844 - 07/08/13 07:32 AM Re: Anyone here a Diabolist Satanist? [Re: Dimitri]
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I agree to a point. I do think it's stupid to try and overcome the negative label society gives Satanism. Caring if society accepts you or not, and bending yourself for acceptance while claiming the name adversary is highly ironic.

However, actually lying to convey a fearful image doesn't serve much purpose. For me, the adversarial mentality is just to not care if your accepted or not. If you want to be open about being a Satanist, why not just say what it actually is? The self-righteous RHP types would hate what it really is anyhow.

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