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#91131 - 07/22/14 11:58 AM Re: Interrogistic Symbolism [Re: Fnord]
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Hey now, living off the system is very Satanic. Because they are not leeching off the system as much as USING the system to their advantage.

I think those food stamp debit card thingies should have a Baphomet on it
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#91132 - 07/22/14 12:43 PM Re: Interrogistic Symbolism [Re: Asmedious]
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heh \:\)


Seriously I can see both sides of the argument to a point.

What's puzzling is living off the system and at the same time professing to want to burn it down.

Suggests a special brand of self loathing to me.


Edited by Fnord (07/22/14 12:44 PM)
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#91133 - 07/22/14 01:05 PM Re: Interrogistic Symbolism [Re: Fnord]
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I guess that all depends on what he considers the 'system'. I did ask him specifically about his college attendance. His response was that he wasn't claiming that particular activity was anti-establishment just more comfortable for him.

As for Welfare being 'USED' vs. 'LEECHED', what's the difference exactly? Then, there's the matter of federally funded student loans/grants. Linky.

Via the wordpress, plenty of advocacy for National Socialism as the desired system vs. capitalism.

So taking full advantage of federal grants that don't need to be paid back seems to coincide with the NS model vs. Capitalist model.

Some of the new contributors to the blog appear to be mixing NS with other mental abstractions such as racial superiority. That has always struck me as odd. There's no pure race. I mean, unless you're African without the Neanderthal genes, every group is a racial soup. As far as culture goes, I can somewhat see the perks of segregating cultures however the clashes are inevitable. I don't think it's going to usher mankind into any fastrack progression.

Culture Clash Example 1

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The head of Iraq's largest church said on Sunday that Islamic State militants who drove Christians out of Mosul were worse than Mongol leader Genghis Khan and his grandson Hulagu who ransacked medieval Baghdad.

Chaldean Catholic Patriarch Louis Raphael Sako led a wave of condemnation for the Sunni Islamists who demanded Christians either convert, submit to their radical rule and pay a religious levy or face death by the sword.

At the Vatican, Pope Francis decried what he said was the persecution of Christians in the birthplace of their faith, while U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said the Islamic State's actions could constitute a crime against humanity.

Hundreds of Christian families left Mosul ahead of Saturday's ultimatum, many of them stripped of their possessions as they fled for safety.


Cultures Working Together Example 1

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GAZA (Reuters) - About 1,000 Palestinian Muslims fleeing Israeli shells devastating their Gaza neighborhood have found shelter in a building they otherwise would rarely if ever enter, the city's 12th-century Greek Orthodox Church.

Despite its thick walls dating back to the Crusades, the Church of Saint Porphyrius was still not a very safe haven. Shortly after they arrived, Israeli aircraft bombed a nearby field, spraying shrapnel on the church and damaging graves.


During the interview there was some sentiment shared regarding the pro's of National Pride. In the case of the first example, how does that work exactly?

It's as if the U.S. is the whole world.

The spread of European culture to North America was just the beginning of cross-culturalism. I mean, it's not as if the people considered aboriginal grew out of the dirt. They were just the first settlers, the Europeans came later, then other immigrants. When people identify as being 'American' what does that even mean?
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#91136 - 07/22/14 02:48 PM Re: Interrogistic Symbolism [Re: SIN3]
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As far as culture goes, I can somewhat see the perks of segregating cultures however the clashes are inevitable.


...and the most influential culture will guide the rest.

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When people identify as being 'American' what does that even mean


They are admitting they are bound to and influenced by its culture or values. They are lining up to buy the product. When you consider the spread of culture it seems one does have a disproportionate reach. In a way we ARE all living in America.

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#91140 - 07/22/14 05:18 PM Re: Interrogistic Symbolism [Re: CanisMachina42]
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I was thinking along the lines of cultural identifiers specific to America. I mean, what do we have that wasn't stolen from somewhere else?

I was also addressing it in the context of the lament about Europeans invading North American culture (on air).

Reminds me of Eddie Izzard's bit: Do You Have a Flag? If you like that, enjoy the Lego Version.
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#91164 - 07/24/14 04:03 AM Re: Interrogistic Symbolism [Re: SIN3]
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I lost it as soon as the lesbian reverb kicked in. Honestly — if your personal philosophy takes more than a few sentences to sum up, you’re probably trying way, way too hard.
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