#15953 - 12/11/08 08:52 AM
Re: Real Satanism?
[Re: Kon]
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Fabiano
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One could first thing about Louis Cyphre played by Robert De Niro in Angel Heart or Al Pacino in The Devil's Advocate. But it’s close to views shared by Xians and JoyOfSatan.
The characters who appeared me as the most Satanic ones are Temperance Brennan from Bones TV series and especially Dr House.
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#15968 - 12/11/08 03:00 PM
Re: Real Satanism?
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Fabiano
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Yeeeeesssss, I like it so much! LOL
Temperance is a feminine soft copy of it. I enjoy it also!
And the Bene Gesserit in "Dune" well fit the role as well. It's not obvious in the movie (which is not the best one I watched) but clear in Frank Herbert's books.
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#16114 - 12/13/08 08:54 AM
Re: Real Satanism?
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Reece
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nope, all movies that depict satanists usually make them "evil blood suckin goat head worshipers" but you know, every religion is made fun of in movies (the jews in dewey cox was funny as hell) although only difference is with satanists its never because the same reason all others are made fun of, we are because people actually belive thats how we are...to be black and white about it, i think it sucks
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#16190 - 12/14/08 10:33 PM
Re: Real Satanism?
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The Zebu
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On the subject, I feel the urge to pursue a discourse that's been brewing in my head for some time now.
For all the supposed "ungodliness" of today's culture, you'd think there would be a few movies that would outright enthrone Satanism. But there aren't. The most fertile genres for such a motif, supernatural thrillers and horror movies, are rife with demonic imagery, violence, and sexuality... but then usually retreat to the medieval framework of good vs. evil when the demonic forces are portrayed as one-dimensional villains to be vanquished by priests and other such self-proclaimed holy men with good-guy badges.
At best, we get vague Romani films... and Lovecraftian-style stories where there is no objective good and evil, and neither cross nor crescent can stop the malevolent cosmic chaos to which mankind is helpless.
Yeah, I know we don't really NEED masturbatory films with positively-portrayed Satanic characters.... but it would be cool anyways.
edit: Oh, and Club Satan is a porn movie. It doesn't count.
Edited by The Zebu (12/14/08 10:35 PM)
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#16797 - 12/23/08 10:00 PM
Re: Real Satanism?
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Nemesis
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More to the point, would it really be any fun if the public started to accept Satanism? It's bad enough that it's gone as mainstream as it has in the past decade, but those stupid goth kids just wash it out and fight to be accepted as "normal", and in so doing, drag Satanism (or the whole perception of it anyway) down to their level.
Remember when Halloween used to be scary? Pre-ubercommercialization? Now, don't get me wrong, I enjoy having an excuse to dress slutty in public, but damn, there's no "magic" left in it anymore. I blame it on the Saw-type movie genre.
Half the time I'm rooting for the bad guy in a movie, especially if he's hot and smart. Just like you said, Dan, rarely in real life does the beefy ex-cop good guy manage to overthrow the master plan laid down by the antagonist.
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#16804 - 12/24/08 01:44 AM
Re: Real Satanism?
[Re: Nemesis]
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The Zebu
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I don't expect Satanism to be popular or widely accepted... nor do I ever think it will be, due to the nature of the philosophy. But if the "label" of Satanism ever got popular (ie, if some silly brand of Spiritual Satanism became widespread) then I would simply choose a more effective (and less cluttered) name for my beliefs. I don't see that happening, though... we'd sooner see a world full of Scientologists than Satanists.
But as advanced film production is always getting less expensive, it wouldn't be bad to see a few blatantly "Satanic" films. Yes, they would be mostly low-budget b-movies universally panned by critics, but since the Satanic movement has produced much in the musical, painterly, literary, artisan, and ritual arts (and various other areas), it would just be nice to see what Satanic films would be like. I'm not looking for two-thumbs-up or box office smashes. A nice (literal) cult following would do.
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#16811 - 12/24/08 05:47 AM
Re: Real Satanism?
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daevid777
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Sounds almost good... but can we get the guy from "Flash Gordon" to play the part?, I always thought he looked like Mr. Lavey, maybe too much so...
If there was nothing for which "rebellion" was necessary, I guess we'd all be out of a... hobby. And if your particular brand of Satanism was the mainstream... would that be a good thing? "Hot Topic" pisses me off, for so many reasons I can't even begin to mention, is "My Bloody Valentine" our future... yes.
The word for today is "Occult", so whenever you hear it, "Scream Real Loud!!!" "AAAArrgggghhhh"
Anyway... I'm more a Crowley fan, sorry guys... but when I heard of some movies in production I was horrified. Especially if it was ever "mainstream".
Why the fuck would I want everyone to know what I've had to seek out and find, through the bullshit and the years of reading, bullshit and pain... summed up in a fucking movie? Of course, I would have gone to see it...
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#16838 - 12/24/08 12:40 PM
Re: Real Satanism?
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Dimitri
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Remember when Halloween used to be scary? Pre-ubercommercialization? Now, don't get me wrong, I enjoy having an excuse to dress slutty in public, but damn, there's no "magic" left in it anymore. I blame it on the Saw-type movie genre.
You know nemsis, reality is more scary than fiction. You only have to go "over the edge". Like I don't know.. slaughter a REAL sheep on halloween before the little kids their eyes, taking out the liver and cook it with an egg to eat it afterwards. Maybe offer them a bit. You'll quite fast see the little tears and the trauma's rise.
Nothing is better then being a psychopat then actually acting one..
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