#29044 - 08/29/09 02:01 PM
Re: Real Satanism?
[Re: Jake999]
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Michael A.Aquino
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Well... it was clear that the book meant something important to him. He wasn't "consumed by it" by any means, and we did watch the movie once, and he pointed out some of the scenes which he felt were important for different reasons, one being the cold reading techniques demonstrated by the Pete, the drunken old mitt camp reader when he spoke to Stanton about reading the mark ... But as far as being "mesmerized," I would say that he did find parallels to his own life and sometimes exploited them and other times looked at them as a "cautionary tale."
Curious, because I would think this scene rather incidental to the many more intense statements in the book/film [as Nikolas highlighted]. It's a harsh story, as are the others you cited; and that seemed to me to have been Anton's general focus: noir, Schadenfreude, futility, mockery of idealism. Nathaniel West's Day of the Locust. Anton's close friendship and collaborations with Ken Anger, certainly: Hollywood Babylon and such.
Yet there was some wistfulness there too. In '74 Anton gave me a copy of West's A Cool Million inscribed "To Mike - from one potential Lemuel Pitkin to another." [LP, the protagonist of the story, is a naïve, trusting boy who in constantly striving to be helpful and caring, receives in turn the short end of the stick: is deceived, cheated, maimed, and finally killed (at which point he was hailed as a martyred hero).]
As mentioned above, I happened to see Fade to Black in the 1980s and saw an avatar of Anton in the character of Eric Binford; gave me the creeps. On the other hand I also saw Flash Gordon and said, "Yes, I know that guy too."
On the general subject of this thread, as long as I've mentioned Nikolas Schreck, his The Satanic Screen is an excellent survey of this topic. And here's a more lighthearted alternative.
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#29045 - 08/29/09 03:28 PM
Re: Real Satanism?
[Re: SkaffenAmtiskaw]
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Master Magick
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Agreed on one point, disagreed on another. Real Satanic movies wouldn't sell any copies, because the very thing that makes Satanism appeal is that it's real.
In a novel I'm working on, there's a Satanic character that has a small part in the story and one of the reasons this character appears is to lend some realism to an otherwise fantastic set of events.
Many movies and books have truly Satanic characters, it's just that they are never identified as such. Then there's also the fact that aside from poor depictions in so-called horror flicks, Satanism just doesn't "sell" like it used to.
Perhaps it's time to change that. Satanic Reality Show anyone? 
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#41334 - 08/02/10 07:46 PM
Re: Real Satanism?
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I agree with you on the Hurricane Katrina stance and the fact that it did show the truth of what humanity really is.
I've got to disagree here. It shows that people at the lower socioeconomic levels of New Orleans are morons, and no, not all of them are black.
I got to meet some of these people and they were honestly some of the stupidest people I've met. And extensively criminal.
As you'd expect, with three (3) days of warning, all the smart people got out of town. The idiots who bought cheap land in the floodplains -- demanding it, of course, or they're oppressed because housing is expensive -- did not manage to sober up to leave and so they got walloped.
They then shipped these people off to nearby states, where they proceeded to launch a human crime wave of rape, robbery, sodomizing dogs, etc.
Should have let nature clean up.
Not all people are as weak as they are.
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