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#7040 - 04/02/08 08:42 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: TornadoCreator]
Isaak w shipley Offline

Registered: 03/06/08
Posts: 112
Loc: Tenneessee
I feel you brother!!!!
#7052 - 04/02/08 02:05 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: TornadoCreator]
Jeseth Offline

Registered: 02/24/08
Posts: 91
Loc: California
 Originally Posted By: TornadoCreator
Their lawyer got the case thrown out because he said that the parents "believed what they where doing was not recklessly endangering the child but a possible solution to a problem neither of them could have academically known about in detail as neither had medical training".

Bringing those two parents to justice would probably have sparked outrage in the zealot community. At worst, an attempt to prosecute them would have looked like a violation of their rights to freely practice their religion. Their lawyers argument was very poor though; ignorance is rarely a viable defense. Ignorantia legis neminem excusat.
"Life is of no value but as it brings us gratifications."
Thomas Jefferson

#7123 - 04/03/08 09:35 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: Jeseth]
MaggotFaceMoe Offline

Registered: 08/30/07
Posts: 164
Loc: Finland
Very interesting that they really could get away with that. Where I come from, such a defence would just be laughed at. Although the majority here are christians, they seem to still have their brains with them. There aren't many fundamentalists raising their heads, for they are rarely tolerated or just get shrugged off as lunatics.

Too bad I can't use the same argument for getting rid of some people. How nice and easy it would be to just say, I didn't know I'd kill that man by just firing my weapon in his approximate direction, I didn't even aim at him.

#7125 - 04/03/08 10:02 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
TornadoCreator Offline

Registered: 10/24/07
Posts: 586
Loc: No Fixed Address
I agree MFM. I wish that argument could be used in removing the useless from society but it's not going to so I suppose we'll just have to dream.
If you can't practice what you preach, at least have the decency to preach what you practice

#8034 - 04/20/08 09:54 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: TornadoCreator]
DistroyA Offline

Registered: 02/04/08
Posts: 478
Loc: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, UK
This is the sort of story that really fucks me off and makes me more and more misanthropic.

What fucking idiots those parents are....

Edited by DistroyA (04/20/08 09:54 PM)
Edit Reason: spelling correction
"A man chooses, a slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan of Ryan Industries (Bioshock)

#8055 - 04/21/08 11:24 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: DistroyA]
neurosys Offline

Registered: 10/01/07
Posts: 26
Loc: san diego, CA
the guy on the right was a total jackass I thought.

"its crazy to criminalize everything"
hehe like little thing such as killing children

"putting all the burden on the parents"
who killed their kid... yea.. burden them.. its their burden...
and its societies burden too, if we'll have it.
Because idiocity comes from not culling this
part of the herd.

These people should be condemned by all of society and certainly legal action should have been taken. Failing to care for your offspring makes you a failure as both a human and an animal.

Ignorance does and should kill, however, in this case the tragedy is that it did not kill the ignorant ones, but an innocent child.
This is a shame that as a society of humans, the entire world, should recognize. What of the other children in the home who will always remember their sisters valiant struggle flopping about in a pool of vomit and their 'brave' parents who held their faith strong in the lord while their child most likely pleaded for less than divine assistance. What atrocities will the surviving children bring to bear on their sons and daughters after this kind of parental tutoring.

These kind of people are cold empty husks of humanity.
Long gone is their potential for independent thought.
It truly is a shame that these Parents were able to survive their own stupidity long enough to inflict it on people around them.

The Emperor Has No Clothes.

#8056 - 04/21/08 11:29 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: neurosys]
neurosys Offline

Registered: 10/01/07
Posts: 26
Loc: san diego, CA
sorry for double post but this reminded me of a recent movie quote.

A man is drowning in the ocean
and he prays for god to save him.

A ship comes by and tries to pick him up
he replies "No thanks, God will save me"

They leave and later another ship happens by
and pleads with the man to come aboard, to which he replies...
"No, I believe God will save me"

So then the guy drowns and makes his way up to the
pearly gates, all kinds of angry with god.

when he sees god he tells him

"Hey!! I prayed and prayed and prayed and I really believed you would save me but you just let me drown!! Whats the big idea??"

to which god then replies:

"Are You Stupid? I sent TWO ships!"
The Emperor Has No Clothes.

#8085 - 04/22/08 11:53 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: neurosys]
truthseeker2000 Offline

Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 20
Loc: Upstate SC
Had any of you been raised in the appalachian mountains or anywhere in the deep south where they still have snake handling churches and other pentecostal sects this would not surprise your. I still know people who believe quite firmly that just "laying on of hands, anointing with oil and praying" will cure anything: cancer, blindness, snake bites, you name it. If you dare to mention anything about God not healing amputees or anything else logical then you're obviously with the devil and trying to tempt God or mislead the faithful. It's all crazy and very, very sick. Even here, however, people have enough sense to seek medical treatment when the whole God thing doesn't pan out.
Lucifer's Light Liberates mankind

Caligula WSA

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