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#6527 - 03/28/08 11:25 AM 11 year old girl prayed to death
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This made me sick to my stomach how crazy some people are.
Stupid people shouldn't be parents.



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Edited by LUCIFERIFIC (03/28/08 11:32 AM)
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#6531 - 03/28/08 01:00 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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AAAAGGGHHH! Fucking crazy religious nut-jobs piss me off. They should be put in a damn asylum and their other kids should be taken off them.
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#6532 - 03/28/08 01:02 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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saw this in yahoo yesterday

STUPID PARENTS SHOULD BE HANGED
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#6533 - 03/28/08 01:08 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: gods418]
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yes finally some people that think what i think they should be tortured and be thrown out a 100 story window

my old foster mom was like that and she forced religon on me but all i did was listen to metal and their was nothin stopping me and every time i was around her i pictured her the hell she so really feared
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#6543 - 03/28/08 02:59 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: darkling]
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Yes, that is upsetting to say the least. It really is sick when people have a strong belief in religion and try so hard to play doctor, when they've no proof to back any spiritual medical treatments they've tried in the past. I mean, are you seriously so cheap that for lack of insulin you wouldn't take your immediate family to the emergency room?
The girl had made it this far, @ 11 years she was a known diabetic, you gave her insulin before, so you figure oh we'll just stop giving her the meds, she'll be fine...riiight.


Edited by Kon (03/28/08 03:00 PM)
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#6560 - 03/28/08 07:15 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: Kon]
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Wow how sickening... What causes people to so strongly believe in religion that there dying child will somehow recover with a gift of god. The ignorance of man kills.

I really can't believe that.. Those other children should be immedieately removed or, as the prossecuting attorney suggested, at minimum, a monitor or suervisor should be placed within the household.
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#6577 - 03/28/08 08:47 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: PigFeeder]
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I wonder if one of the adults who did the praying was in great physical pain, would they just try to pray it away also.
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#6641 - 03/29/08 05:22 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: Asmedious]
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I wonder if they will still believe in what they do or try to flip it away and into something else. Like not having prayed enough or not having been good enough Christians. The latter sounds more probable.
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#6722 - 03/30/08 06:07 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: TheMask]
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they said they attributed their daughters death to them not having enough faith, but still believe she can be resurrected...umm sorry not happening..u killed her and now u have to live with it. they should be put in a room with no water and food until they starve/thirst to death...pray that god sends u something see how it works out for ya
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#6987 - 04/01/08 10:35 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: loki_kj666]
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Yea this is fucking disgusting. People like this should have breeding bans put on them before they do any damage to anyone else. Seriously they shouldn't even be in charge of themselves let alone an innocent child who's only sin was being born to a couple of fucking idiots.
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#7012 - 04/02/08 01:02 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: reverand]
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Does anyone know if in the end the parents were finally convicted and what they were charged with?
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#7031 - 04/02/08 03:06 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: PigFeeder]
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As far as I know, no charge was passed and the parents didn't even have the social services remove custody of the other kids, stating, "We have no reason to believe the children are under threat of abuse".

So basically, unless something else happens, they've got away with it.
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#7033 - 04/02/08 07:21 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Wow okay, so they've committed the act of ignorance and killed a young child, and now society does the same. Goes to show you exactly how fucked up our legal system and society really is. How is it normal when people are leeaving 11 year old chilren to fend for themselves and ultimately die. Too bad we don't still have th death penalty in place and it's not 50 years ago. I think sometimes we really have gone backwards, I think I would have agreed withthings ore back then. Makes more sense, except the senseless Satanism hating of course. But it's still here today, just people don't so violently express it.

For all we've learned, our ignorance still yet impedes our capability to proceed. We learn, yes, that's it; that's what makes us different we can learn but all is naught if we cannot come to use what we learn. There are no words for the heinous acts of which these foolish believers in there christian religion and ridiculous hopes. No words to describe the sick feeling - How can other people, the people who convict and prosecute let this go. It is clearly a form of murder. If your dogs are left out in the rai nand not taken care of, there fur is matting, and they become sick and die. You are charged with animal cruelty. So where the hell are we when dogs get justice before we do.. ( Don't get me wrong I love animals ).

Those parents should have been made an example of.
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#7037 - 04/02/08 08:09 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: PigFeeder]
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I am glad to see that everybody agrees just like me.It's total bull-sh##.How can somebody pray in front of a child and be that stupid not to know her childs ails.The people knew plain and simple about the condition,I have no problem with praying or others faith,that is their bizness but to deny a child medicine,which if the great god exist then they should now that its in the protacal to use the meds that science,or god,or harry houdiny for the love of humanity' sake gave us through science.Seperation of church and state.Thank you constituion,thank you.I am so glad for the seperation,because of stupid people who think they can play god by not taking care of their sick child who could have been easily treated and be with us today.It's total manslaughter,no better yet premeditated murder.It's a living hell for those involved I hope and pray!
This type of stupidity makes me sick/hate.


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#7038 - 04/02/08 08:34 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: Isaak w shipley]
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According to "The Echo" newspaper in Liverpool. The couple went to court for Reckless Endangerment however the judge rules that the couple didn't need to attend as it may prove too traumatic so shortly after the loss of their child. Their lawyer got the case thrown out because he said that the parents "believed what they where doing was not recklessly endangering the child but a possible solution to a problem neither of them could have academically known about in detail as neither had medical training".

It's sickening. Unfortunately the Echo only has 3 paragraphs on it in the 'International News' section so I don't know any more on it.
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#7040 - 04/02/08 08:42 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: TornadoCreator]
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I feel you brother!!!!
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#7052 - 04/02/08 02:05 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: TornadoCreator]
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 Originally Posted By: TornadoCreator
Their lawyer got the case thrown out because he said that the parents "believed what they where doing was not recklessly endangering the child but a possible solution to a problem neither of them could have academically known about in detail as neither had medical training".

Bringing those two parents to justice would probably have sparked outrage in the zealot community. At worst, an attempt to prosecute them would have looked like a violation of their rights to freely practice their religion. Their lawyers argument was very poor though; ignorance is rarely a viable defense. Ignorantia legis neminem excusat.
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#7123 - 04/03/08 09:35 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: Jeseth]
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Very interesting that they really could get away with that. Where I come from, such a defence would just be laughed at. Although the majority here are christians, they seem to still have their brains with them. There aren't many fundamentalists raising their heads, for they are rarely tolerated or just get shrugged off as lunatics.

Too bad I can't use the same argument for getting rid of some people. How nice and easy it would be to just say, I didn't know I'd kill that man by just firing my weapon in his approximate direction, I didn't even aim at him.

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#7125 - 04/03/08 10:02 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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I agree MFM. I wish that argument could be used in removing the useless from society but it's not going to so I suppose we'll just have to dream.
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#8034 - 04/20/08 09:54 PM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: TornadoCreator]
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This is the sort of story that really fucks me off and makes me more and more misanthropic.

What fucking idiots those parents are....


Edited by DistroyA (04/20/08 09:54 PM)
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#8055 - 04/21/08 11:24 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: DistroyA]
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the guy on the right was a total jackass I thought.

"its crazy to criminalize everything"
hehe like little thing such as killing children

"putting all the burden on the parents"
who killed their kid... yea.. burden them.. its their burden...
and its societies burden too, if we'll have it.
Because idiocity comes from not culling this
part of the herd.

These people should be condemned by all of society and certainly legal action should have been taken. Failing to care for your offspring makes you a failure as both a human and an animal.

Ignorance does and should kill, however, in this case the tragedy is that it did not kill the ignorant ones, but an innocent child.
This is a shame that as a society of humans, the entire world, should recognize. What of the other children in the home who will always remember their sisters valiant struggle flopping about in a pool of vomit and their 'brave' parents who held their faith strong in the lord while their child most likely pleaded for less than divine assistance. What atrocities will the surviving children bring to bear on their sons and daughters after this kind of parental tutoring.

These kind of people are cold empty husks of humanity.
Long gone is their potential for independent thought.
It truly is a shame that these Parents were able to survive their own stupidity long enough to inflict it on people around them.

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#8056 - 04/21/08 11:29 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: neurosys]
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sorry for double post but this reminded me of a recent movie quote.

A man is drowning in the ocean
and he prays for god to save him.

A ship comes by and tries to pick him up
he replies "No thanks, God will save me"

They leave and later another ship happens by
and pleads with the man to come aboard, to which he replies...
"No, I believe God will save me"

So then the guy drowns and makes his way up to the
pearly gates, all kinds of angry with god.

when he sees god he tells him

"Hey!! I prayed and prayed and prayed and I really believed you would save me but you just let me drown!! Whats the big idea??"

to which god then replies:

"Are You Stupid? I sent TWO ships!"
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#8085 - 04/22/08 11:53 AM Re: 11 year old girl prayed to death [Re: neurosys]
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Had any of you been raised in the appalachian mountains or anywhere in the deep south where they still have snake handling churches and other pentecostal sects this would not surprise your. I still know people who believe quite firmly that just "laying on of hands, anointing with oil and praying" will cure anything: cancer, blindness, snake bites, you name it. If you dare to mention anything about God not healing amputees or anything else logical then you're obviously with the devil and trying to tempt God or mislead the faithful. It's all crazy and very, very sick. Even here, however, people have enough sense to seek medical treatment when the whole God thing doesn't pan out.
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